Gas in diesel car?
Posted by TalTay13@reddit | askcarguys | View on Reddit | 323 comments
my stupid brother just put 5 liters of normal gas (?) in a diesel car, a Toyota corolla. is it bad? he wants to put a lot of diesel in the car now to dilute the gas. is it dangerous??? is it bad? will it explode? sorry but I know nothing of cars
AlaskaGreenTDI@reddit
How old is this car? 5l of gas would be nothing in an old mechanical diesel, 5l would be very bad in a modern common rail.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Very old, maybe like 20 years??
SaoirseMayes@reddit
20 years is not very old for a car, definitely not old enough to be mechanical
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
What does mechanical mean? It's not electric. Apart from the radio tbh. I say it's old because every time I bring it to the mechanic I have to wait weeks or days for the pieces to arrive because they don't have them since it's an old model (mind you it's the official Toyota mechanic that doesn't have the pieces)
SaoirseMayes@reddit
https://www.justdieselperformance.com.au/blog/common-rail-vs-mechanical-injection/
Superb_Monkey@reddit
4 years is old for a car. 20 years is an oldtimer.
SaoirseMayes@reddit
Where do you live that four years is old for a car? That's pretty much brand new in the US.
Superb_Monkey@reddit
Western Europe. Four year old cars are considered outdated, like a 4 year old smartphone. This is especially true for EVs, which lose a lot of value on the used car market.
SaoirseMayes@reddit
That's insane, at least in my region of America 15 is where cars start to get old, it's pretty common to see 20 and 25 year old cars around.
Superb_Monkey@reddit
We have Low Emission Zones in bigger cities, that will turn into Zero Emission Zones in a couple of years. So now it’s already impossible to go there in a car older than 7 years or so. The ZE-zone is only accessible for EVs.
AlaskaGreenTDI@reddit
Even in the US we had mechanicals until the early 2000s, so in a less emissions restricted market (or even with someone guessing 20 instead of 25), it’s still pretty hard to guess what they have.
SuspiciousArt7316@reddit
Diesel in gas you can try to dilute because diesel is harder to ignite. You won’t cause knock.
Gas in diesel means drain the tank.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
It's 2 liters of gas and he put a full tank of diesel to dilute. Hope it's enough
AccomplishedCow2920@reddit
It's not, literally everyone on this post is telling you to stop. I'm honestly not sure why you even asked, if you didn't care about the opinions of dozens of people telling you straight up NO.
"I'm just a girl" is such a stupid response. I also am a girl but would never do that - and if there's something I didn't know if it were dangerous or not, asked for knowledge, and had DOZENS of people telling me it is in fact dangerous, I wouldn't be like "oopsies, I'm just a girl 💁🏻♀️"
You're essentially fucked, so.
JuanSolid@reddit
While I am glad to see the 'I'm just a girl' being called out by Women, the ratio being explained here is not a problem. Their tank holds 50 liters of diesel, and 2 liters being gas would make it 4% gas per liter full. 5% is considered the modern max dilution, with many places citing 10% max. So this is a case where the majority of everyone screaming one thing is blown out of proportion and wrong because they are ignoring the finer points and just regurgitating the one thing they saw previously and think they know.
OP should drive very conservatively and keep topping off their tank until they go through at least 50 liters of diesel to be safe. Dropping the gas tank, draining and dumping the fuel, while technically a correct solution is quite excessive. I 100% would not be surprised to find out that the shop that did that work just ran the 50 liters in their own vehicles without blinking an eye.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Called out why? I'm not an English speaker. Wtf is going one? I'm a girl, age and gender wise. I'm not a 60 yo men, why are you all flaming me??? He doesn't listen to his little sister, this is what I meant. Not in a antifeminist way
JuanSolid@reddit
The term is used in America by some women commonly when they feel over their head about some responsibility they have that ended up resulting in negative consequences that are usually in monetary form.
Instead of taking responsibility and moving on, they will try to throw blame elsewhere. It's common childish tactic and not exclusive to females of course. In America Boys and Girls are under 18, as soon as you are 18 or older, you are an Adult. Usually at age 13-18 they are teenagers, with some saying 10-12 is 'tween', which can lead some to say boy and girl designation is for 9 years and younger. Those ages are not expected to have adult responsibilities or knowledge.
Still there are plenty of videos out there with Women going over maintenance items they did not do and costing them a lot of money and saying 'warning to everyone, I am just a girl and no one told me this, so I am telling you all now' or some such. They will do that while having a $1000 monthly car payment and destroyed their engine because they ignored oil changes. They have no one to blame but themselves, so they will make the excuse 'I am just a girl'. Going back to the above, they are excusing their lack of knowledge or ownership of responsibility because children don't have those. Of course they would never insinuate they are a child, they are 'just a girl' in the sense you said it as well, but in reality you are a young adult unless you are under 18. Even if you are under 18, if it's your car you should know about them because it's part of owning a car.
Now I don't know if adult male's do that, but it's not commonly known that they do. There are still men out there who don't want to take responsibility for their screw ups and try to blame everyone else, I just don't think they post about it so it's not known as easily. Your brother sounds like a dumb idiot and a jerk for dismissing you as just a girl, but coming here with the 3 big questions at the end and saying you know nothing about cars is a bit of the problem. I don't care because everyone needs to learn, but if you show no indication you tried to do any research it's going to come off the wrong way to a lot of people. Hearing you responded to someone with 'I'm just a girl' is disheartening to me for the above reasons. You and everyone else, including myself, will make mistakes, learn from them, and grow until the day we die. It's not a gender thing, it's a person thing everyone has in life. There is no sense in trying to shift blame because it does not do anyone any good.
I read your edits now, but I am going to leave the above as is. It did initially look like it was your car your brother screwed up. The only thing I can suggest is realizing social media is going to be like this. If your brother ignored you after all this post, and any research you did, he was going to do it no matter what. It's his car, let him have the responsibility. He got lucky this time, and I think you are a great sister for trying to help him. Based on this alone I bet you will outclass him at every turn in life. You should feel sorry for him to an extent, love him like a brother, and go live your best life possible. All while never saying you are 'just a girl' again, even if someone calls you that.
Hopefully you can laugh about how your dumb brother got you torched a bit on the internet because you tried to help his dumb butt lol.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
I don't even understand why people thought that it meant that, I wasn't even the one who did it!!! My brother was! I feel like I'm in a big joke because wth!!!
JuanSolid@reddit
You are the one responding, and it initially sounded like it is your car making it your responsibility. People usually don't go out of their way for other peoples property like this, even if it's family, and especially when they are not appreciative of your help.
I read your 4th edit. My best advice is for you to let your brother and parents screw up. You will need to just do your best and be a good self sufficient person for yourself. The effort you are putting forth to try and help is 1,000% better spent on yourself then being wasted on him.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
I'm so involved with this because this is the only car we have and since I don't have a driver license I depend on this car to be able to go to school etc. He broke the other car a month ago by driving straight in a ditch while looking at his phone!
JuanSolid@reddit
I get it. You need to accept this is beyond your control though and prepare alternative options you can. I don't know what public transport is like, but if your parents can afford a car, they can afford a bike, safety equipment, and a lock for you. You could probably get an e-scooter or some such. It really sucks, but you are only able to do so much. One thing you will never, ever, be able to do is control others. All effort to that last part in anyway is 100% wasted and your time is much more valuable than that.
What most people would do though is just let your parents be responsible for it. They have tasked your brother with driving you around, and any mistakes by him they will feel. They are doing it for you. The loss of value to your family from your brothers mistakes sucks, but it is not for you to personally deal with and solve, leave that to your parents while you can. You will 100% be on your own one day for all of this, but today is not that day, and I suggest you enjoy it while you can. if you can't help yourself, I get it, but you should direct your energy elsewhere that more benefits you and allows you more control over your life.
Vybo@reddit
Considered by who? Every source tells you even 5 % is dangerous and you should not do it.
JuanSolid@reddit
You could drop links too you know.
https://misfuel-solutions.co.uk/safeamountofpetrolindiesel.htm
https://www.justanswer.com/australia-car/jcwfu-accidentally-put-1-2-litres-petrol-diesel.html
Your of course seeing stuff like this where they never want to say it's OK for liability reasons, but it even says 5-10% would be moderate risk.
https://www.fuellogic.net/gas-in-a-diesel-engine/
I could go on, and so could you, but again, mechanics are literally going to take the fuel they drained and use it in their diesels as free diesel.
dunncrew@reddit
In her defense. Her brother's car. Her brother put in gas. Her brother decided to drive anyway.
AccomplishedCow2920@reddit
She decided to post about it. She asked the questions. She continued to ignore all advice and say they drove off anyways. I guess if you're going to do all that and it's not you personally, don't bother asking??
dunncrew@reddit
It wasn't her ignoring advice. Her beother ignored the advice. She asked questions to find answers.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Wtf are you talking about? I'm freaking out and shouting at him. About to drain it myself cause the retard won't do it. I didn't say I'm just a girl as a meme. I said it cause I literally am and he doesn't listen to girls when it comes to cars. Stop being a weirdo
disgruntledarmadillo@reddit
2 litres in a full tank will be fine, ignore all the drama queens
Joates87@reddit
Why are you making this your problem?
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Because last month he broke our other car by looking at his phone and falling off a cliff and this is our last remaining car. If this one breaks we can't move!! We live in the countryside and I need to go to uni and my parents need to work!
Joates87@reddit
Your parents sound like them have a problem they are enabling.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
100% and when I say something... Gues what, THEY DON'T LISTEN TO ME. It's as if I'm talking to walls, they just dismiss everything I say even if it's always right, perhaps because I'm the younger sister... Idk
poutine-eh@reddit
gas floats on diesel. Siphon it off and say a prayer… tow it and have the tank drained…. do not run it as when the gas gets into the engine you have bigger problems
Think_Preference_611@reddit
It's all hydrocarbons and they mix readily. Even if they stratify by density over time as soon as the car starts moving around all the liquid in your fuel tank is constantly being stirred.
This is a complete non issue.
poutine-eh@reddit
a small amount of diesel mixed in with gas should still work. too bad diesels are so fussy.
Think_Preference_611@reddit
Diesel engines will still work just fine on like 50/50 or even less diesel than that. There's heavy vehicles with Diesel engines than run on a hybrid Diesel/natural gas system and they only really need a pilot flame from the Diesel to ignite the natural gas, they can run with like 10% Diesel or less. No real difference with gasoline (which is very quickly going to be a gas inside the cylinder anyway).
The only real issue is that diesel pumps use the fuel itself as lubricant, and gasoline is very bad for that.
poutine-eh@reddit
if you can get gas to run in a diesel truck it will run like a scalded cat.
jahalliday_99@reddit
It doesn’t. It’s gutless.
poutine-eh@reddit
Hard to get gas to run inna diesel…. maybe only witb a no computer motor but they runs great for a few minutes. Ever try propane and diesel??
jahalliday_99@reddit
It was an old mechanical engine. I saw it done many years ago. Someone working for my dad filled a rented truck (7.5 tonne, U.K. commercial vehicle). He was complaining it wouldn’t start very well and when it did it wouldn’t pull the skin off a rice pudding. When we checked his receipt he’d filled it with unleaded. Refilling with diesel had it running nicely again. I’ve never tried propane and diesel 🤔
poutine-eh@reddit
apparently it makes them go fast!!! not recommended for hauling aggregates
poutine-eh@reddit
why is such a pain in the ass when you run out of diesel
Think_Preference_611@reddit
Because air gets in the system and it can take a lot of pumping to prime it again.
Not really much of an issue in modern cars, as long as your battery is healthy just keep cranking and it will start eventually.
poutine-eh@reddit
ran out of diesel on a hino 358. that’s electronic injection. why so hard to get running again?
Think_Preference_611@reddit
I just told you it takes a lot of pumping to prime it, but a common rail system primes itself, eventually.
poutine-eh@reddit
not my experience…..i’m not a diesel mechanic…. I’m old and th newest truck i drive is 20 years young.
Think_Preference_611@reddit
But I was...in addition to my engineering degree.
poutine-eh@reddit
your engineering degree means NOTHING!! my boss’s kid is my new boss. He’s a computer engineer. He knows nothing about cars and trucks.
makgross@reddit
Gasoline is less dense than Diesel, but it will readily mix. No, you can’t siphon it off unless you were extremely gentle filling it and have incredibly smooth roads. It’s not like gasoline and water, which don’t mix at all.
poutine-eh@reddit
obviously draining the tank is the best option…..
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
So now that he put a full tank of diesel we can just Syphon the gas that's floating?
poutine-eh@reddit
technically yes. 5 l of gas should be easy enough to siphon off of 20 l of diesel. in a tank. I’m not a mechanic….. but I remember accidentally putting gas into a diesel Bobcat when i was young and stupid. that’s how it works.
acreekofsoap@reddit
This is bait
Purple-Sister3971@reddit
Is a diesel Corolla even a thing?
LordAnchemis@reddit
Diseasel? ;)
Majestic_Location751@reddit
Not a Corolla…but I took my drivers license test in the 80’s in a diesel powered Camry. No one in my family ever filled it with gas tho.
SaoirseMayes@reddit
Of course it is, they've been making them with diesels since the 80s
Old_Suggestions@reddit
Fr?!
SaoirseMayes@reddit
They sell them in Europe
6carecrow@reddit
Have they actually? I have traveled to so many places, and can not remember seeing a Diesel Corolla, pretty much ever
BC999R@reddit
They were even sold in the US - briefly.
HalfFrozenSpeedos@reddit
Yep was in Europe, though called Auris at the time and likely after they changed the name back also....
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
He is quite stupid. Third car he destroys in 3 years...
Frosty-Analysis1520@reddit
Can't fix stupid unforutnately.
Wise-Comb8596@reddit
holy shit how? that should be impossible unless he also fails at putting his pants on. Whats his deal? and how did he destroy them
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
First time he was going fast in a narrow road and crashed. Second time something I think it's called wheel bearing (?) broke and he kept driving till he wheel fell off and he crashed. Third time he fell off a cliff cause he was on the phone (he said it was black ice but there was the SUN out). A fourth time he crashed also but it was minor.
GirchyGirchy@reddit
That's terrifying. Hopefully he lives far away from me.
And that's impressive to have a wheel fall off due to a failed wheel bearing...they usually make noise for a very long time while they fail. It had to have sounded godawful right before the failure.
PS: the wheel bearing is basically the part that lets the wheel spin. It's two rows of either little balls or cylinders that roll between whatever the wheel mounts to and the rest of the suspension. They're just big versions of the spinny things on fidget spinners, bicycle wheels, skate wheels, etc.
In a car, they usually start to make a sort of roaring noise as they go bad. You can usually tell what side it's on by turning the steering wheel back and forth or changing to another lane on the interstate (due to the road crown)...If you're turning left or in the right lane and it gets louder, it's on the right side of the car.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Apparently there was a sound for months. One day he came to pick me up and the noise was terrible, it was like a metal tube being dragged on the asphalt, VERY loud and I was the one who made him go immediately to the mechanic and he was speechless about how bad It was. 300euros and 4 days later It was fixed.
GirchyGirchy@reddit
Good for you for speaking up...he'd be wise to listen to you more in the future!
I will say some mechanics have poor hearing and won't pick up on an early failing wheel bearing. Years ago, I took my '85 Chevy to two mechanics and neither could hear the bearing noise. I finally gave up and replaced it myself since I'd just gotten a garage, sure enough, it was bad. That was my first decent DIY job on a car.
mad_pony@reddit
seems like your brother has some path to follow
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Yeah and I don't understand why he keeps going. Be works in a factory and is underpaid. He can't even afford a new car even if old and resold so I just can't fathom why he keeps going
covfefenation@reddit
I’d say the insurance costs must be crazy but this type of dude is probably uninsured
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
He's insured
Kheops187@reddit
no wonder
MsCattatude@reddit
Yeah what kind of Toyota car is even diesel? (USA)
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Some in italy
paleologus@reddit
The whole internet is rage bait
set-monkey@reddit
Totally made-up too, like most of these... I'm muting this sub as a result.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Brother what??
Valuable-Midnight390@reddit
Not smart enough to look on youtube!
Slow_Description_773@reddit
Empty the tank, no other way around it.
wsxdfcvgbnjmlkjafals@reddit
lmao guy could've googled it first but he's already driving. too late
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
He asked a trucker who said to just fill up the tank
wsxdfcvgbnjmlkjafals@reddit
im sorry man, i didnt realize someone told you to do that. I hope you find the right help
ripped_andsweet@reddit
for commercial trucks with large fuel tanks, throwing in a splash of gasoline in a diesel tank helps prevent the diesel from gelling up in extreme cold. not the best advise for a car but he was probably thinking it was the same principle
AutomaticBearBait@reddit
Not the best idea for a big truck either. Kerosene or fuel treatment (Power Service), or fuel heaters.
MarsRocks97@reddit
They are also diluting it with 300 gallons of diesel. Not 12.
Personal_Chicken_598@reddit
Up to 25% is the mixture truckers will usually use. 1 gallon in 12 is less then that
Personal_Chicken_598@reddit
It is the same principle.
EventHorizonHotel@reddit
And do not in any circumstance start the engine much less drive it until you do this.
OurBroath@reddit
If it isn't a common rail it will be fine.
Quirky_Whiskers@reddit
Too late..
cryptolyme@reddit
People always ignore advice
Fillmore80@reddit
I think the advice came too late for our dynamic duo here.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Not for me. I was shouting at him but he's too proud to admit any wrongdoings
snoopcat1995@reddit
My stupid brother... 🤣
Meritad@reddit
He is right. Nothing is going to happen. 5L for a full tank of diesel is fine
Meritad@reddit
That's BS!!!! Brim it with diesel and get on with life
RokRoland@reddit
Mercedes diesels up to 1980 or so specified in the user manual, that in the wintertime, a maximum of 30% gasoline can be added to diesel. This was due to not having proper winger grade diesel available.
Sure the new high pressure common rail things are more particular about fuel, diesel is a lubricant too after all, but here we have a Toyota D4D which albeit is high pressure injection is still not the latest and greatest, plus the amount is relatively small, like 5%.
ApoTHICCary@reddit
Yup. Far cheaper to drain the tank than risk it.
cormack_gv@reddit
You should be OK. 2 litres in about 40 is 5% dilution. Maybe drive gently until you've topped up the tank a few more times.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Thanks!!
Ok_Complex8873@reddit
If it is truly 2 liters, nothing is going to happen.
During the winter once I was away and when I returned I realized my common rail diesel still had summer diesel, full tank, while it was -15C to -20C.
I actually filled some gas before fully burning and switching to arctic diesel.
On a separate note, we do not need your family drama about xanax overdose, there are other avenues for these type of issues.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
It was just to make people understand that he doesn't listen to me. If you read the comments some people are flaming me and blaming me for everything and I had nothing to do with it
Careful_Farmer_2879@reddit
And top it off with premium. You need to get that octane up pronto.
Independent-Owl2782@reddit
Should be fine but put more diesel in it as a oon as yoi can. I did that g at on x e. Don't kill y I ur bro. It happens. If the tank gad been near empty you would need it towed and tank drained.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Tomorrow morning I'll fill it up again then
Insertsociallife@reddit
A diesel corolla?? Damn, why can't we get cool stuff like that in America-land :/
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
It's cool? I thought diesel sucked
Insertsociallife@reddit
Diesel has its tradeoffs. Personally, I think it's awesome. Most car guys probably disagree.
Something's just fundamentally neat about compression ignition.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
I heard it sucks because it's bad for environment, worse than gas but idk if it's true. I guess it's better electric no? But even electricity it's produced with gas so isn't useless??
Insertsociallife@reddit
Diesel produces much less CO2 than gas engines at the cost of higher particulates (soot and so on). Better or worse depends a bit on who you ask.
Electric is best for the environment because even 100% gas power plants are more efficient than a car engine, and electric motors are very efficient.
I like diesel engines because they're just cool. Their ignition method is to basically just punch the fuel until it explodes.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Aaaaaah ok, now I understand better. It's interesting, thanks!!!
Simpleton565@reddit
I always ran 10 percent gas in my diesel car and it was fine in the winter. Top it off with diesel and drive. Once I accidentally filled it with gas. Drained the tank and it was fine
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
What are the benefits in doing it in the winter? I might start doing it on purpose if it's good for the car
jahalliday_99@reddit
It’s fine. 2 litres diluted into a tank full of diesel is no problem at all. A full tank is a different matter, but a small amount is not a problem. It’ll be fine.
GBR012345@reddit
It's fine. Don't even worry about it.
jahalliday_99@reddit
This. It’s no issue at all.
wsxdfcvgbnjmlkjafals@reddit
I wouldn't start the engine.
Try syphoning it out.
Warning: if you use your mouth to ge a syphon started you're gonna drink gas and that's not good...
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
He pur an entire tank of diesel and now we're driving. It's not dangerous for us right?? No explosions or stuff like that right???
Muttonboat@reddit
He will damage the engine severely, but it wont explode action movie style.
jahalliday_99@reddit
It will not.
OcotilloWells@reddit
The has is lighter than the diesel, that's why you are fine for now, the engine doesn't pull fuel from the top of the tank where the gasoline is now.
But you need to get the tank drained before it sucks the gas into the engine.
HalfFrozenSpeedos@reddit
Wrong.....diesel and gasoline are miscible....i.e. they will mix
Are NONE of you aware of the differences in composition between summer, winter and arctic diesel.....hint the latter 2 have higher proportions of lighter fractions to combat gelling induced by freezing temperatures
Eye roll
phatelectribe@reddit
Rage bait. Mods: can this guy
Fine_Negotiation4254@reddit
Sell it now…. Start fresh
Logical_Sort_3742@reddit
It is not nitroglycerin. Just gas.
That said, you have filled 6-7% of your fuel tank with an entirely wrong.fluid your finely engineered car was NEVER meant to use. Would you be happy if you had put 5 litres of water in there? Coca cola? Liquid ass?
It might work. You might never notice any damage. You might sit at the side of the road in 3 minutes with a useless lump of broken metal under the hood. You decided to drive off, so you will find out.
My bet is on side of the road, but who knows? More to the point, who cares?
qkdsm7@reddit
Might just have to buy a new car since you're destroying it instead of having it drained. Not dangerous at all though, so yolo, right? ;)
/s
HauntingPoet191@reddit
You guys will be fine. As for the engine and your brothers bank account I can’t say the same.
KYLEquestionmark@reddit
sell it TODAY
Pimp_Daddy_Patty@reddit
It can still destroy the injection pump.
twelfthfantasy@reddit
It probably won't explode enough to damage you directly but bro is actively killing his engine.
Forker1942@reddit
Suck up while standing, plug with your thumb, point the hose down.
Muttonboat@reddit
worth a shot, but might not work - many newer cars have anti syphoning guards now.
Forker1942@reddit
I’ll have to google how that even works. It was more of a general syphon tip. I have to do it weekly for a saltwater fishtank.
LankyNihilist@reddit
Since at least 95. I know my old ram has one.
FaithlessnessEasy276@reddit
Up to 1:10 ratio gas to diesel is ok. So if he added 10 gals or more of diesel it’s ok, don’t need to drain, just drive
sanmiguel-wv2Okr@reddit
I'm not saying this is what will happen for you but this happened to me: A family member accidently put a couple of litres of petrol into a diesel VW 2.0 TDi with 200k+ km on it. He realised his mistake immediately, doubled down and filled the rest of the tank up with diesel then drove it home.
It was touch and go for a couple of tanks' worth of diesel, struggling to start and we had a couple of incidents where it stalled and seized, but after cooling down it started up again.
After a couple of full diesel tanks, plus an oil top-up I think, it honestly ran better than it had for a decade. Seemed like the petrol cleaned it out 😂 It's still going, must have nearly 300k km on it now.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Yeah someone did say it can clear out the ways if it's just a little bit. Thanks for your comment btw!!! We'll do the same probably
Sea-Rip3902@reddit
He smokes weed does he?
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
I caught it sometimes, he mostly drinks and uses stuff like Xanax. He once drank half a bottle of Xanax right before coming to pick me up!!!
According-Ad5263@reddit
And people like this are allowed to vote smh
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
He doesn't even vote!
stomper4x4@reddit
I'm sorry your brother is so difficult and the relationship with him is so poor.
Personally I would drain the tank.
Never ever let your brother touch anything or yours, ever again. Never. Ever.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
When I'll get my car I'll definitely hide the keys...
AllGoodPunsAreTAKEN@reddit
It sounds like your brother has no respect for these vehicles or how much they cost to own and maintain, because he keeps getting bailed out by your parents, who keep helping him get new ones.
Most people learn how to properly care for something once they own it and are 100% responsible for it. Sounds like your parents need to stop enabling him, if nothing else.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
I've always said this. After his firs accident with my mom's car (2am he secretly exited the house and was speeding on a narrow road while probably high) my parents felt so bad for him they bought him his first car!!! And guess what happened to that one too...
A_Bot_A_Bot_A_Bot@reddit
u/TalTay13 : After "Edit3": you know, you didn't choose him as a brother and vice-versa. Some familial relationships just do not work. Take care of yourself and just leave him to his own devices. It's not worth the self-mental beating you are giving yourself over him. You can't change him. You can't change your parents. Only they can change themselves. So, for now, he'll keep being a spoiled dumbass, and they'll keep spoiling him.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Yeah but he's much older than me, it's not my fault. I don't know why he's like this
buickboi99@reddit
Wow your brother is a stupid fuck
Words_Words_Numbers@reddit
Gas in a diesel isn’t that bad. Diesel in a gas vehicle is very bad.
Superb_Monkey@reddit
Normally it not a problem. Diesel in a gas/petrol car however, is a problem.
acepod@reddit
Just out of ignorant curiosity, which region(s) have diesel Corollas?
RokRoland@reddit
All of Europe
In Northern Europe from maybe 2000-2020 like 70% of passenger cars sold were diesels. Lower fuel price, lower consumption, good real world torque particularly with turbodiesels
acepod@reddit
That makes sense. I’ve always known many of the European auto manufacturers produce and sell many diesels in the region. And I was just curious because I didn’t know Japanese manufacturers were prevalent or even available also. Pretty jealous. I just bought a BMW diesel here in the states and coincidentally also have a Corolla also (obviously gasoline)
RokRoland@reddit
Well, for decades - probably 1970 to 2000 - the most popular car in Finland was Toyota Corolla. Chased by Datsun/Nissan, then Mazda and Mitsubishi further behind with Volvos, Mercedes, VW and Skodas and whatever was hot at whatever time.
Fun fact, we also hoarded probably all the American woody estates of the 1980s back in the 1990s, when they were worthless in the States and shipping was cheap. Lucky guys woulf have one with an Olds 307, sometimes a 350, with bad luck a 5.7DX and some were converted to run on whatever Japanese diesel engines like a Nissan 2.2 - because their vans and pickups rusted to hell but the engines were indestructible.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Italy!!
camping_scientist@reddit
Dilute with diesel. Itll be fine.
RedditFandango@reddit
What year is the car and what type of engine does it have? Apparently older cars can deal with a fair amount of gas in diesel but on engines with fuel injection the fuel pump might be destroyed along with a good chuck of the fuel injection system.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
2002 and the engine type I wrote it in another single comment. Sorry but I don't remember, tbh I don't even know what an engine is. That's how much I know about cars. Like 66kw and 20 cylinder I read
RedditFandango@reddit
A Toyota 2002 2L diesel definitely uses fuel injection and unfortunately the pump and injection system is very sensitive to the drop in lubrication the gas will cause. Assuming he diluted the 2L gas with a full tank - another 53L - he might get away with it. If he refuses to get the tank drained he should continually add more diesel to dilute the gas further. There is also a suggestion to adding some Diesel fuel additive that specifically adds additional lubrication.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Should be continually fill up the tank for how long. Is a week enough?
RedditFandango@reddit
Assuming he goes down this path the goal is to dilute the gas as quickly as possible. Assuming the numbers are 2L out of 55 total it’s currently 3.6% gas. If he burns and adds another 2L it would be 3.5% gas. He would need to get 56L in there to get it down to 1%. If I decided to do this I would definitely be adding a lubricant as mentioned. But I would probably get the tank drained.
NudistBeachman@reddit
The cars dead. You're gonna have to walk to Bendigo, it's gonna be 8 days to Bendigo to get your cube. 8 long days. This is your walking along the highway Rick and Morty adventure!
sacodetoro75@reddit
Best way to.prevent algae
RangerMother@reddit
2 liters of gas in a diesel car is a nothing burger, drive on. In very cold climates this is often done to help diesels start and run. 8 or more liters, there probably would be a problem necessitating draining the tank. You’re good.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Thanks a lot mother!
BoxBoxBox888@reddit
Honestly sounds like a busted car may not be your biggest problem. Hope things work out with your brother and your relationship gets better.
It's always ok to have boundaries in place for people that cause stress in your life. That includes family.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
I don't think it will get better. He's almost 30, never talked to me and we live together! He's just not brotherly and he never listens. I'll hide the car keys for a while
mamny83@reddit
It will cause catastrophic damage. Drain it.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
He just put diesel in it and we're driving...
OkCartographer175@reddit
Okay why even ask us if you're not gonna listen
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
I'm just a girl, I tried to tell him but it's his car and his money. I can't do anything
mrmackeydroveamazda3@reddit
Im just a girl is so wack to say
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Why? It's true. He doesn't listen to girls when it comes to cars, especially since I'm his sister. It's his car and even if I'm shouting at him he doesn't want to hear it
krilleractual@reddit
Calm always beats shouting.
“Brother, you can cause really bad damage to the engine, listen to all these people here shows thread but look its your car, im just trying to help”
Shows way more control in the situation than shouting.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
He sadly is a bum and he doesn't speak to me. At all. Never. So when I talk he doesn't answer me or even looks at me. He came to pick me up but he doesn't even greet me so sadly there's nothing I could do
krilleractual@reddit
It seems like you should be less invested in all of this
WamBamTimTam@reddit
His car his problem then. Unfortunately sometimes people just have to learn stuff the hard way
FirehawkLS1@reddit
Right some people are always trying to ice skate uphill. 🤷♂️😂
Junior_Step_2441@reddit
Yeah, but you are not “just a girl”. You are a person with enough sense to know that you were in a situation that you did not have enough knowledge about, so you do the sensible thing and started asking questions to gather more information about how you should proceed.
You are a rational, sensible person.
Your brother on the other hand…he is very clearly just a boy.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Bro I'm the one studying and having a good career and he's the bum, I didn't mean it in a demeaning anti feminist way. I used Google translate and it gave me that. I didn't know it was bad(?) in English. I meant it in a descriptive way, I can't believe so many people got so pressed about it
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
I couldn't do anything. I was telling him to just drive in the side and call the mechanic and he just ignored me and filled the tank with diesel.
Used-Author-3811@reddit
Make sure you laugh at him when the inevitable happens.
jrileyy229@reddit
2L in a 50L tank...Well, there's a small chance the car survives... He should at least be shoving fresh diesel in frequently... every 30 KM stop and shove another L or two in it To continue to dilute it down
mechshark@reddit
He will prolly be fine lol
SuzeFabulous@reddit
Girl you need to learn not to take that shit from dudes….and I agree with the others…..He’s obviously an idiot, so fuck him.
Blastoise_613@reddit
Sounds like it is his problem then, no reason to demean yourself and other women.
freetotebag@reddit
He sounds like an idiot so, the good news is, this will sort itself out in a Darwinian way eventually.
JolyonWagg99@reddit
He’ll find out soon enough
scudrunner14@reddit
Well he’ll learn that hard way then lmao fuck him
Jakomako@reddit
Gwen Stefani catching strays over here.
Sad_Win_4105@reddit
When Gwen sang it, it was an angry anthem, not an apologetic for being weak and helpless.
Jakomako@reddit
Yes, it's definitely used ironically in the song. It should really only ever be used ironically.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Why?? Sorry I'm not an English speaker and I was translating. I'm a girl, how is that bad? He won't listen to me for that reason, I'm his younger sister
GlobalTapeHead@reddit
All the feminists are rolling in their graves. Girls can do anything guys can do, sometimes better.
Good luck with your car.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Tf does this mean? I'm a feminist, he's the One too proud to listen to a girl
Daniele323@reddit
If you’re a feminist the don’t use the “I’m just a girl” excuse. It makes it sound like girls are just too dumb to understand.
Old_Crow_Yukon@reddit
Look behind you. Is there a lot of smoke? Get the tank diluted with gas Asap if he's not going to drain it. Point out the regular gas is cheaper than diesel.
cryptolyme@reddit
Girl is irrelevant
UnderwhelmingAF@reddit
Looks like you two are gonna be car shopping this weekend.
kayakzac@reddit
This reminds me so much of a situation I’ve witnessed on a sailboat in a race:
Wife: hunny, the depth sounder is reading really shallow, I think we should turn away from the coastline. Husband: nah, we’re fine, it must be set to water depth, not keel depth.
10 seconds later
CCCCHCHCHBBGGRRRRCHCHCB as the keel starts dragging (luckily it was a sand and pebble bottom).
But seriously, you’ve done what you can, remember that the incredulous comments are directed at your brother, not you.
Constant-Fly-9050@reddit
You didn't think to look this up before rolling away in a thing that costs thousands of dollars. People need to educate themselves about vehicles more.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
I did, that's why I wrote here. He didn't even listen to me reading your messages and just went. I couldn't do anything, he doesn't listen to me
Constant-Fly-9050@reddit
Well this is a good lesson to have. Try to learn as much as you can so when you're behind the wheel stuff like this won't happen. Sometimes people are just stupid or stubborn like your brother. You might get lucky this time.
DeepEstablishment942@reddit
You started it with regular gas still in it?
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
He did. I'm shouting at him but he's the big guy who's too proud to listen to his sister
DeepEstablishment942@reddit
Rest in peace his car
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
What will happen? Will it explode??? Just suddenly stop?
iHaveLotsofCats94@reddit
It won't explode, but it may start to run rough and lose power. There's a good chance there's been damage done to the fuel system. Any amount of gasoline can damage a diesel fuel system. I've seen people do this on diesel pickup trucks and cause 15-20,000USD in damage. I work in the auto industry with mainly gas vehicles, but I have some diesel experience.
Your brother should have listened to you. He may have gotten lucky, but I would bet he'll start having very expensive problems soon
Agile_Lawfulness9678@reddit
It wont explode but the gas will prevent the motor from staying properly lubricated and some vital moving parts may fail or wear out prematurely
cakemates@reddit
It can destroy the fuel system, so a lot of money to fix... It can also make the engine explode and crack internally. So another lot of money and a new engine to fix, or it could do nothing is diluted enough. Its just like gambling several thousands of dollars where if you win you save yourself a few bucks on not draining the tank.
Omen46@reddit
Probably start rattling, smoking and then shit off yeah
morganlandt@reddit
I hate when things shit off.
faroutman7246@reddit
Agreed!
Omen46@reddit
lol
HungryHungryMarmot@reddit
Sometimes this is the best way for guys to learn lessons.
anon3220@reddit
There's a side lesson here for you that sometimes men have to learn things the hard way. I guess we all do, but men especially in our stubbornness.
cryptolyme@reddit
And you’re damaging the engine
faroutman7246@reddit
Well, so long to the Corolla.
Key-Banana8924@reddit
Let us know how it goes!
TigersNsaints_ohmy@reddit
It won’t be going very far!
TheKrakIan@reddit
Welp, look forward to a large repair bill.
LordAnubis85@reddit
This might turn out to be a very expensive lesson. Keep us posted.
Boey-Lebof@reddit
Not for long
Pantsmnc@reddit
RIP
Personal_Chicken_598@reddit
Then you’ve committed damage is done just drive it and hope you diluted it enough
Rare-Bet-870@reddit
Bruh
badlocalhardcoreband@reddit
Yeah that car is for the scrapyard. If it was the other way around it wouldn't be a big issue. But gas in a diesel is catastrophic
R2-Scotia@reddit
gas destroys diesel engines, but 2 litres in a tank won't hurt
Ok_Interaction3016@reddit
Work buddy did this to the work van. Topped it off with diesel & it was fine.
Diesel in a petrol however would be a no no.
trillbabyprime@reddit
He really should drain the tank, whenever you accidentally put any amount gasoline in the tank of a diesel you should do this to prevent any problems.
However, given the small relative quantity of gas, if it's an older car, it may be fine (I cannot say what the age threshold exactly is though, probably early 1990s, if i had to guess). It used to be recommended to add a small amount of gas in colder weather/climates to prevent diesel from gelling, but that's not good for newer engines, and isn't recommended any more, obviously.
The biggest concern is gas will reduce the lubricity of the fuel, which can cause catastrophic fuel pump failure, which means the entire fuel system will need to be replaced (which will be very expensive). Whether or not the 2L of gas will make the lubricity out of spec enough to cause that is unclear though. It's going to depend on the size of the tank, and whether or not any lubricity boosting additives were used, and the quality of the fuel where you live. Europe, for example, has much better quality diesel than the US, so if you live there, you might be in luck.
Another complication that may occur is knock, but diesel motor blocks/internals are typically much heavier duty than those of gas motors, so it may be able to tolerate some knock, but how much will depend on the engine and how robust it is. Another important thing to consider with knock is that, while the internals may be able to handle it, auxiliary systems in the engine may not like it and may begin to fail.
If it was my car, I would not drive it any further, and I would have the mechanic drain it, and possibly replace the fuel pump (even if it didn't grenade, I don't think i'd be comfortable with the wear subjected to it by the misfueling)
rolph4@reddit
Good old rage bait form a low karma spam account..
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
No dude. Do you want a picture of the car?? I came here desperate cause the people in my family are absolutely not car smart and the mechanic here in Italy is closed at this hour
rolph4@reddit
There's diesel in the car, you're already driving, if you were actually desperate you would at least listen to the people giving you advice instead of making corny comments. I don't need a picture of the car, if you're still driving you might as well park it at a junkyard.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Bro I'm not the one driving. I was telling him all your comments and advice and he's the one ignoring me because I'm a girl. He doesn't listen to me. He doesn't speak to me. He said maybe 2 sentences to me my whole life. He did what he wanted but I was here panicking because I thought I was in danger since he drives FAST. I'M desperate. It's night here and I'm alone in a parking lot trying to fix this because he won't do anything and he just left
Amarathe_@reddit
Got to drain the system out entirely. Huge pain in the butt. Putting more diesel in wont save your engine. Do not run the engine, gas will detonate in a diesel motor causing lots of expensive problems
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
It was apparently just 2 liters... Is it as serious? He put a tank full of diesel in
turbotaco23@reddit
Why are you doubting everyone? Literally everyone is telling you it’s bad. Why are you fighting?
Stop driving. Drain the tank and refill it.
If you didn’t want any advice stop asking for it, because it sure seems like you will just do whatever you want anyway.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
I'm literally not doubting anyone. I know nothing of cars, I'm just asking questions. Plus I don't even have a driver license, he's the one in control he does what he wants without ever listening to me. I was telling him all the advice you guys gave me and he ignored everything. So now it's night and I'm in a parking lot alone following the directions one of you told me to empty the tank. I did want advice and I'm using it. He's the one not listening.
Amarathe_@reddit
Drain the tank. Diesels have higher compression which will cause the gas to ignite long before the diesel would. So even if its mixed with diesel the cylinder is going to burn early which is known as knock and will damage the motor
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
How do I drain it? He doesn't want to do anything and he just went away. We drove 20 minutes no problem but I want to try. Do I take a tube and suck and let it come out?
Amarathe_@reddit
Should be a service hatch under the rear seat to get to the fuel pump. Easy way is to hook a hose to the fuel pump output and just pump it all out. Then disconnect the injectors and used compressed air to blow the remaining fuel out of the system. Refill and bleed.
Or tow it to a shop
TreesACrowd@reddit
Even 2L is far too much. Even 1% gasoline dilution will lower the flash point of diesel by 20C. 2L is ~4-5% dilution in a Corolla. The fuel properties will be altered significantly from what the system is designed for.
Pre-ignition isn't the only issue. Even a little gas can seriously damage the fuel pump and injectors in a common-rail diesel engine.
The engine probably won't immediately fail, but it's a guarantee that running the engine with 2L of gasoline in the tank shortened the lifespan of several engine components. Those things are now going to fail prematurely, but nobody can say exactly when.
At this point the best thing to do is probably to constantly dilute the fuel tank, i.e. refill with diesel every 1/4 to 1/8 of a tank to reduce the gas contamination is quickly as possible. Don't run the whole tank at 5% dilution.
Constant-Fly-9050@reddit
Drain the tank first and never let your brother near a car again.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Yeah he's a fucking idiot. Third car he destroys. Just a skill issue cause stuff like this NEVER happend to me
diabeetusNrobin@reddit
THIRD CAR?!!! Yeah no he needs to pay the idiot tax again
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
He destroyed his car last month and just did this to my mom's car...
diabeetusNrobin@reddit
Someone needs to ride the bus only from now on
kidskwid@reddit
Well shit if its third car he's destroyed just sit back and practice saying "I told you so" as smugly as possible
CarGullible5691@reddit
It’s worse putting diesel in a petrol tank. You can dilute petrol in diesel if it’s not a large amount
ThirdSunRising@reddit
I’m actually with him on this one. Only two liters in a tankful is fine, that’s maybe 5% or less which will not be enough to hurt anything. Let him drive.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Yeah, he told me he put 5 in put it was 5€ he meant! Which is 2 liters, I didn't understand him because I know nothing of cars and I don't even drive
CatManDo206@reddit
They make diesel corollas?
joehonestjoe@reddit
Never heard of a Corolla D4D?
CatManDo206@reddit
No we are in US only gas or hybrid corollas here
Tickles-The-Octopus@reddit
Typical US ignorance
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Here in taly yes
Think_Preference_611@reddit
Lotta nonsense in these comments. Make no mistake, most redditors on this sub don't know anything about cars either lol
2-5 litres in a full tank (50?) is nothing to stress about, just keep topping it up with more diesel to dilute it further and it'll be fine.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
My mechanic who I just called said the same! Thanks a lot for confirming!! Have a good day
HalfFrozenSpeedos@reddit
2 litres in 45 isn't going to do diddly squat
This sub needs verification or something as the sheer amount of panic induced nonsense and scaremongering is something else here....
CaterpillarKey6288@reddit
Two liters of gas will not hurt if he fill the tank up the rest of the way on a older vehicles. Newer ones don't tolerateit as well..it is also recommended to add motor oil to the tank to add back in the lubricating properties that the gas diluted. it is no longer recommended on new diesel to add gas in the winter. If you run any on straight gas it will destroy the fuel system.
itsmesorox@reddit
If it has a rotary pump, it'll be fine, just dilute it. If you have pump injectors, there's a higher risk of something going wrong
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Yeah the car is old but tbh I have no idea what those things you mentioned are sorry.
itsmesorox@reddit
What year and engine?
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Toyota corolla 2002 diesel
itsmesorox@reddit
What engine though?
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Toyota corolla 2.0 tdiD-4D 5P(66kw)
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
He won't tell me and I have no idea. I know nothing of cars sorry. I read 66 KW 1995 cylinders? 😭 Idk
PossibleProgress3316@reddit
Don't start it! You will ruin the high pressure fuel pump, drain the tank flush the lines replace fuel filter
Objective-Humor3900@reddit
He realized he put gas in a diesel and still started the engine? Fuck that's stupid to say at least. 😅
SocialMThrow@reddit
Just fill it up with diesel.
The 5 litres of gas will help clean your engine.
HiFlyin808@reddit
Didn’t know they made Carollas in Diesel?
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
In Italy yes
Muttonboat@reddit
Get it pumped out and don't turn it on.
Gas has a much lower ignition temperature than diesel, you will damage the shit out of your engine.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
It was just 2 he told me.
Vybo@reddit
Would you trust him after he changed his mind and destroyed 3 cars already, according to you?
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
It was 5 euros of gas which is about 2 liters in Italy so yeah.
Personal_Chicken_598@reddit
That’s actually not true the reason gas destroys diesel is because it has less lubrication then diesel and destroys the high pressure pumps and injectors.
Gas is actually more resistant to temperature based ignition then diesel but much less resistant to spark based ignition.
set-monkey@reddit
This is a made-up story. The last one for me... I am blocking this sheite sub now.
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
I WISH IT WAS
Seal-EV@reddit
I did that to my car and and stopped after 5 liters. I emptied a half liter of synthetic 2-stroke oil into the tank and topped up the rest with diesel, about 50 liters. The car has done over 200,000 km since.
crookedledder@reddit
Two liters in a fulk tank of diesel?
Drive it easy, and it'll be fine.
Silly_Hurry_2795@reddit
Ok I've done this a small amount isn't the end of the world if he's brimmed the tank.
Further things to do is keep topping the tank up to constantly dilute it more
It may make hot starting an issue it certainly did for me in a Volvo
But my Volvo also ran on a full tank of petrol .... It did drive a bit odd 🤣 had to drain that one when I was at home..
Bloody Texaco with black handles on everything
Beautiful-Fold-3234@reddit
I did it with 0.3 liters. Car worked but i had some engine issues shortly after that i suspect may have been related. 5 liters is definitely too much.
Curious_Instance_606@reddit
It depends on how empty the tank was and how big it is.If it was under 1/8 and only 2 liters of gas may not be too bad.Draining the tank and fuel system would probably be the safest option.
sumguyontheinternet1@reddit
lol is it still running?
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Yup. We drove 20 minutes in it no problem. If something happens, should it happen immediately or could it happen in days??
Vegas96@reddit
You could be seemingly fine for now, but maybe the car dies a premature death.
BoxBoxBox888@reddit
Gas is a solvent while diesel is a lubricant, so gas in a diesel car is worse than the other way around. It can mess up your engine and fuel system pretty bad.
Stop driving if you're already in movement.
Vegas96@reddit
Are the nozzles the same size in your country? The diesel dont fit gas tanks where I live. Because diesel on gas is worse.
ohog9og0790@reddit
When I was young, it was common to add some regular gas into diesel in very cold temperatures. This was to avoid clogging of the injection with paraffin. But as far as I know this will hurt modern diesel engines.
I would empty the tank and probably try to flush the fuel lines too.
Turbulent_Winter549@reddit
Was watching a mechanic youtube and a dude got his pretty new diesel truck in because he was on vaca and got distracted and put a gallon of DEF in the gas tank. He googled it which said as long as you change out the fuel filter after you should be good....yea he wasn't good. Now they had to take out the gas tank, fuel lines. fuel rail, injectors, etc.
It was like a $15000 repair. Mechanic said he should have never put the key in the ignition, if he had done this it would just have been a drain the tank/refill situation.
Material_Expert2255@reddit
Empty tank. Dont drive it.
Fudge_Comprehensive@reddit
I watched a buddy of mine do this to his truck. We stopped at a BP where the handles are green and muscle memory kicked in. I get it. He noticed his mistake about 5 gallons in. Switched over to Diesel and filled the rest up. Never had an issue. I’m not saying it’s the right thing to do. But i witnessed it.
Key_Bison_2067@reddit
Ya know, lots of doom and gloom in here, I was kinda thinking that it’s not a terrible ratio, and it’s a Toyota, it’ll probably be fine.
dunncrew@reddit
Design flaw that this is possible.
harrys123456@reddit
toyota corolla using diesel ?
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Here in Italy some do
Askada@reddit
2 litres - nothing is gonna happen. 5litres - drive to workshop and drain it.
Half the respondents are surprised corolla can have diesel engine, and here you are taking advice from those people. Holy shit this sub is so clueless, it's painful to read.
CombinationWhich6391@reddit
Back in the day, before „winter diesel“ was a thing, we would fill some 10% gas in the diesel tank when it was freezing. Not sure whether modern engines can deal with it. To empty it is probably the better choice.
TheGeek00@reddit
I am very curious as to how this is going to work out. Please update when the engine finally quits. Tell your brother he’s a moron lol
Fine_Negotiation4254@reddit
Diesel is essentially an oil which is a lubricant …. Gasoline is essentially a solvent that breaks down lubricants. The diesel lubricates the fuel system amongst other parts of the engine. A lubricant that’s thinned out and broken down by a solvent cannot stick to parts and provide lubrication hence causing undue wear on engines components and possibly catastrophic failure of engine components
firstnameok@reddit
Congratulations. Broken engine.
LieLevel7361@reddit
Direct injectors or old school? We used to put few liters of petrol to diesel at winter but it was before all electronics. 5 is a bit more then this true.. Friend of mine put even more in Honda crv and.. car was fine.. I wouldn't but.. Borderline for me.
metoo123456@reddit
It might be ok. Two liters is not a lot and the tank was topped off with the correct fuel.
Wyoungv01@reddit
As long as you don’t run the car and you just drain the tank, you shouldn’t have a problem. Regular gasoline doesn’t have a lot of the lubrication qualities that diesel has so it will cause premature wear and failure on different parts.
TranslatorOutside909@reddit
I assume this always too late. People drive away from the pumps, realize something is wrong
cerealfamine1@reddit
It's very hard on the engine and will cause premature detonation due to the high compression of a diesel. They can mix, and if it's very diluted it may survive. I would never attempt, but since it's already happening, let us know how this science experiment goes! I'm curious. 🙂
Personal_Chicken_598@reddit
5L isn’t really that bad if the entire rest of the tank is filled with diesel. Now if you started it and that was all that was in the tank that would be very bad
Sweet_Speech_9054@reddit
Diesel can’t dilute gas. It will separate with the gas on the bottom (where the pickup is) and destroy the engine. Better to just take it to a mechanic before too much damage is done.
nimble_broccoli@reddit
Tell us once you stopped becausi it broke. I need an update.
drmotoauto@reddit
Do not start the car. You need to drain tank completely
Valuable_Cause9119@reddit
That’s super bad. Drain it. Gas combusts hotter and will take out all the lubrication from the diesel. Depends if his feelings are more important to you than your car.
Longjumping_Cow_5856@reddit
This actually happened to me once while I was on the phone pumping fuel and not paying attention.
I pumped a lot of gas into my T1N Diesel Sprinter and didnt realize it for a few miles of driving either!
I called my Mechanic once I did realize it and he was not freaked out at all but just told me to drive it to him straight away and I did.
He calls me a few hours later and says I can come pick it up and that it is fine.
He drained the tank,cleaned the fuel system and put Diesel back in and it ran fine.
Actually it has never run better somehow.
I was resigned to it being a huge deal and feel like I got lucky but it is what it is and there have been no long term symptoms from it either!
So just my own experience and I do still feel like a Moron for even doing that deed.
KJ_Blair@reddit
Run a diesel with gas in it will crater the engine
alfienoakes@reddit
Post again from the side of the road after the inevitable catastrophic failure because I’m intrigued.
Key-Win-1366@reddit
It's not actually that bad, just needs constant toppings up with diesel to dilute
TalTay13@reddit (OP)
Finally someone that doesn't say I'll die and the car Wil commit an extreme act🤣
RBUL13@reddit
Why can’t we get Toyota diesels in the USA? 😔
dlok86@reddit
I heard putting a litre in with a full tank is a good way to clean the injectors.. 5 litres might be a bit much though.
aspire1690@reddit
Did he start it with gas in the tank? If so you might be royally fucked
Diluting it down by filling up with diesel could work but it’s still kinda risky
Draining the tank is definitely the best and safest option
Timely_Chicken_8789@reddit
You likely won’t be able to siphon the tank. You’ll probably have to disconnect the fuel line and jump the fuel pump to run until empty. Not as hard as it sounds. Find a YouTube vid for your make and model.