Will my GP do anything if I tell them I have tried to suicide ?
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Hello,
Long story short I recenlty tried to off myself for the second time and I wanted to tell my therapist but they aren't avaialbe for a while, I was thinking of speaking to the doctor but realistically what are they going to do? I have been medicated and have tried various ones at different dosages but to no avail for a few years and the psychiatrist dosen't seem keen on trying anything else based on our last conversation and felt there is nothing else for me to try that was safe.
I would rather not go to a hospital again but unsure what else there is for me to do realistcally, I have tried as much as I can for the last decade or so and I am exhusasted. I think at this point it's fair to say that I am weak and not suitable for life and cleary I am too weak minded to carry on and be useful to society.
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Leading-Praline-6176@reddit
Nah, you are not weak minded, just clearly very low. Go to your GP, cmht referral/crisis support.
Change your meds, connect with someone, go for a walk. Find one thing, mine was a pigeon once, fed that fat thing & took mild joy in its waddle. Now, I have a life I like.
The world is a better place with you in it, please don’t leave, you cannot return from that decision.
InformationDue1328@reddit (OP)
"The world is a better place with you in it"
Not really but how can you know this?
AClockworkLaurenge@reddit
Because you're definitely not as alone in feeling like this, as much as it can feel like that. Most people feel like this at some point in their lives (sometimes many points).
But you can actually only take the steps to make things better - for yourself and for the people/world around you - if you're actually still around to do something about it.
Plus, dipping out early just inevitably creates further misery for somebody else (for someone who cares about you, for the person who finds you). So by still being here and just trying, you're already doing the better thing.
InformationDue1328@reddit (OP)
It's hard though, and I feel I am not strong enough to handle anything, I lack maturity, being able to see far and self control. Plus dying seems easier. I have no worth or value to anyone but thanks for your words.
ohnobobbins@reddit
All living creatures have worth. And your value isn’t dependent on other people’s assessment of it, it just is. You have immense value, it’s just that you’re poorly right now so it’s hard for you to perceive. Speak to a doctor asap please. Everyone here is rooting for you, you might be surprised how many of us have felt this low. I do know it is very very hard. Big hug to you.
Leading-Praline-6176@reddit
Yes, this.
Rough-Sprinkles2343@reddit
If you’ve tried everything there is then what are you expecting?
IDoMeanWell@reddit
Have you been completely honest with the psychiatrist about how wretched you feel and are they still saying there's nothing else they can suggest? If so ask for another psychiatrist. I know you've said they're likely to say the same but that's not true. I work on a mental health ward and we had a patient who disagreed with the diagnosis and treatment plan that her consultant gave, so she requested to switch to the other consultant we have and they agreed that the first guy missed a few points and she got a different diagnosis and treatment plan and it worked. It's worth a go.
You talk about wanting to be useful to society - when was the last time you felt useful? What were you doing at that time? If you had a magic wand, what would you change in your life?
That-Sun-4492@reddit
Why would you tell them if you don’t want them to do anything?
I’m not suggesting don’t tell them, I beg you please do get the help you need, whatever that may be, but if you tell them, maybe expect referrals and offers of help.
InformationDue1328@reddit (OP)
The issue is that they have done all they can, new meds aren't likely and I am already talking to soemone but they are away for a while now. I honestly can't think of what other help they can give that will actually help?
-myeyeshaveseenyou-@reddit
Most locations have an urgent crisis support team, your gp would likely put you in touch with them. They came to see me in hospital when I tried to off myself. And came to my house when I was discharged to check in on me. I wasn’t at a point of being able to accept any further help but they may be able to sign post you to counselling/therapy if you have found it beneficial but can not access it currently. You can where I live bypass the gp and refer yourself to the crisis team.
I have been where you are, I know how bleak it feels. Please try everything in your power to get help. It is 4 years since my last attempt and while I’m not going to pretend my life has been magical since, it has been worth living.
IamNATx@reddit
I think it's really important for it to be checked if there is a reason the various medications haven't been working if you've tried so many & different doses. How long ago were you diagnosed with whatever you've been diagnosed with?
I ask as someone who's been stuck in the same loop of no medication working no matter the name or dosage to find out over a decade later that I hadn't been diagnosed correctly and no medication I'd been given was ever going to tackle what was actually the root cause.
If this psychiatrist is at a loss (especially if they are the one that diagnosed you) then it's definitely worth asking to see someone else and possibly reassessed. They haven't 'done all they can' and your psychiatrist making you believe that is not fair on you.
InformationDue1328@reddit (OP)
Yeah I have to be honest I haven't been very impressed by my current psychiatrist, I just don't know what else to do, if I ask for another but I don't think they would say any different would they? I will ask anyway.
IamNATx@reddit
The only way to know is to try. If this one is out of options as they imply/say, you're already at obvious risk of repeat suicide attempts which is a much worse option than at least the possibility of better help.
I know it's exhausting, and draining, but I promise your life is worth having another try and asking for the possibility.
X
That-Sun-4492@reddit
Have you engaged with MH agencies?
What do you want to happen I guess, then chip away to reality?
InformationDue1328@reddit (OP)
I have a few times, they just gave me CBT techniquesthat didn't really help and I left feeling worse. Having an ear is nice at times but I leave feeling the same as before.
That-Sun-4492@reddit
I’m with you, have you found anything that does work?
InformationDue1328@reddit (OP)
It's a bit embarrsing but no, for the longest time I have been on autipilot playing video games, watching youtube and stress eating and trying to focus on part time work and college but the latter is going poorly and giving me a lot of anxiety.
That-Sun-4492@reddit
Happy to talk stuff through if you’d like to. Welcome to DM.
InformationDue1328@reddit (OP)
Thank you for your time and offer.
That-Sun-4492@reddit
Finding what helps genuinely calm your anxiety, not just distract from reality will be key
Sea-Still5427@reddit
As you're already under a psychiatrist, seeing a therapist and it's not your first attempt, they will probably refer you back to the home treatment team, who'll want to have a chat.
I'd suggest calling Samaritans to talk through what triggered this attempt and how the conversation with the therapist left you feeling.
JeffreyEpsteinUK@reddit
Why do you quantify your value based on how useful you are to society? You owe society nothing. You are a mammal species born into earth to do whatever you please.
Ask yourself what the spark is inside you, what brings you enjoyment, and what your ideals were as a child.
InformationDue1328@reddit (OP)
But is it not a good thing to provide value and be useful to the rest of the world? I just don't like the idea to not offer anything . I don't find anything fun apart from learning about art I suppose.
JeffreyEpsteinUK@reddit
Why don't you like the idea of not offering anything. Do you feel like you have a debt to a specific person?
If learning about art and art is what fulfils you, make it your main focus. Art in all forms is extremely powerful and important.
We live a very short life and it would be utterly wasteful to orient our self belief and value around whether we provide something tangibly valuable to another person.
If providing value was the name of the game, then the Donkey would own the farm.
InformationDue1328@reddit (OP)
"Do you feel like you have a debt to a specific person?"
I would say so yeah, can't quite explain it but being helpful and useful is one of the few things I enjoy, but I am not good at it so it takes a toll on me.
"If learning about art and art is what fulfils you, make it your main focus"
Not sure what you mean sorry?
JeffreyEpsteinUK@reddit
Are you facing a big financial loss or financial debt to a friend or family member? You should be honest.
Also, its our nature to get fulfilment out of helping others - but it doesn't require money or intelligence - it could be something as simple as emotional support, cleaning, litter picking, being a part of a community, speaking to people, being human. These are all things that are declining in our culture and are more rewarding and impactful than anything else.
When I said you should make your passion your main focus I just mean spend the most time on it.
InformationDue1328@reddit (OP)
I guess that would be nice, but I should focus on getting a good paying job and career, which I don't and has been a chunk of stress and unhappiness. College is too hard and I don't have any qualifications that would help me get anywhere good.
JeffreyEpsteinUK@reddit
My advice for that would be to remember that your personality/versatility is far more important than your qualifications. the piece of paper means nothing to most employers. College and university teach next to nothing relevant to any real-world industries.
But when you lack qualifications it can be extremely difficult to find work through the typical online avenues. You have to really try and get a foot in the door, that could be done through Emailing, finding employers in person, finding employees and asking if they have referral schemes, etc.
It is much easier to find work through Who you know, rather than who you are, in this day and age.
Do you have any friend circles / places you go to where some people there work?
InformationDue1328@reddit (OP)
No I don't have many friends like that or anyone else. I have stayed in retail most of my life.
IamNATx@reddit
I feel you. When medical professionals make you feel like there's nothing else, it makes you feel like a lost cause and think it's time to give up.
But please don't give up on yourself. If this psychiatrist thinks they have run out of options, you need a new psychiatrist. To leave someone in a position feeling there is no hope so they may aswell take their own life goes against the purpose of their job. They're supposed to help you manage your existing struggles.
I would go back to your GP and explain how you've been left feeling and your attempt as a result to try and get to a new psychiatrist. This one isn't working for you and even though it's exhausting (I understand from person experience) you deserve another shot because the other option is permanent. You deserve more than for someone who is meant to be doing everything they can to help you to give up on you. Don't let them convince you it's pointless to try because it isn't. You are worthy of support, the right help (no matter how many different types or how long it takes to find) and a life.
You mention doses and types of medication - I do not know what you are diagnosed with, but have they offered you any form of therapy at all? There are more options than just medication and I'm wondering if they've tried exploring outside of that avenue.
Based on your wording I assume you're in the UK? If so, have you contacted MIND the mental health charity at all?
They have this on their webpage:
"Infoline: 0300 123 3393 We're open 9am to 6pm, Monday to Friday (except bank holidays).
Ask us about:
Mental health problems Where to get help near you Treatment options Advocacy services You can also contact us via:
Email: info@mind.org.uk Post: Mind Infoline, PO Box 75225, London, E15 9FS"
They also have a webchat available (popped up when I went to check) if you'd prefer to do it online
If you have reservations about wanting to go back to your GP, they may be a good place to start with appropriate advice on how to navigate getting better support and treatment.
They also have some contact numbers at this link that may be helpful:
https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/suicidal-thoughts-and-suicide-prevention/useful-contacts/
I am so sorry you're struggling and feel stuck with the support you're currently receiving, you deserve more than that. Please don't give up on yourself.
Good luck X
InformationDue1328@reddit (OP)
Hello,
like a month in terms of seeing my therapist and every week, It's too early to say but so far it's okay? I have spoken to many therapists and mental health workers before so I have a good feeling about this one.
I only attempted straight after becuase I was really upest about the topics we dicsussed.
IamNATx@reddit
Oh that's great that you have a good feeling then!
Yeah, I understand. It brings up so many emotional topics and sometimes they're stuck at surface level after the appointment and it's hard to know what to do with them when the outlet you have is over.
Have you ever tried ringing samaritans as others have suggested or any other suicide helplines? If the next appointment seems too far away for the intensity of emotions they may be worth trying for some sort of release/outlet in the interim.
If you've tried that & it doesn't seem to work, have you tried writing down what you feel instead? You could even take thar to your next therapy appointment then to kind of tell your therapist how you were left feeling on the back of your last session to pick up where you left off?
Kingreaper@reddit
Your GP may or may not be able to help - it depends on the resources available to them. They may have a mental health team, know about some ongoing studies, or be able to offer you referals to local groups that can help. But you can only find out by talking to them.
ross-dirext-words137@reddit
It's very important you reach out. Even if it's to 101, just explain your situation and they will signpost you to some support.
Even if you think they will do nothing, it's just a phone call
monkeyboymorgan@reddit
Call 111 they have dedicated mental health lines and can talk you through all your options. Most importantly stay safe. There is life after survival, but none after completion.
I have been exactly where you are and felt exactly what you've felt and done exactly what you've done. Don't go. There's so much you might miss.
allthingskerri@reddit
It can all feel so overwhelming - but please inform your gp. There are many treatment plans and many therapy and psychiatrist options out there. No one should be saying there isn't more that can be done. Now it's totally different if you are not open to trying things again or trying different things because you are not prepared. But at the very least you need contact with a crisis team.
If you do not feel this step is right for you and you need immediate conversation and help there is always the Samaritans.
You deserve treatment and to get better no matter how hard that feels.
RRW2020@reddit
GPs are hit and miss, but sometimes they have decent care for mental health issues. I’m a therapist. I would call the and tell them; tell them you can’t get an appointment with your therapist. They might just give you an appointment with a metal health nurse to have someone to talk to. If you’re under a psychiatrist, I doubt they would mess with your meds. You’ve had a psychiatrist eval, right? A psych eval will, I think, help get you access to services… but you might know more about that than I do
More-Objective7944@reddit
By contacting your GP it's likely to land you in the hospital so it depends on yourself and your current needs, if you feel that an inpatient level support is needed to keep you safe, then having that conversation may be useful. If you are currently safe and are able to wait to talk with your therapist then do that, your therapist may or may not request an inpatient referral as well. It very much depends on what you want next and how safe you currently feel. I hope you're ok, I really do. Being an in patient can make things worse or it can help you but that all depends on your needs.
Available-Spray2576@reddit
It's worth speaking to the doctor if you feel this way, there are crisis teams which are there to support you.
elf_n_safety@reddit
If you can’t get to your therapist or the doctor, you could try calling Samaritans on 116 123. I hope you do get the help you need.
GroceryPlastic7954@reddit
Wanna talk?
LazyBarracuda@reddit
Yes, it is always worth speaking to a doctor they might be able to get the crisis team to visit before your therapist can see you. Also, if you have ingested poison or harmed yourself please go to hospital and get checked over.
Stinkinhippy@reddit
From previous experience through work.. they'll give you the crisis line number and tell you to call that if you're struggling and suggest that you talk to your therapist about it.. that's about it.
You can go to a hospital and request self admission to a mental health recovery ward.. but again experience through work tells me that these places are sometimes worse than not being there.
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