Iran Estimates War Losses at $270 Billion
Posted by Firecracker048@reddit | anime_titties | View on Reddit | 117 comments
Posted by Firecracker048@reddit | anime_titties | View on Reddit | 117 comments
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
2/3rds of ones GDP is a staggering amount of damage. For Iran to publically admit that much damage was done means the damage is likely a bit more than that and even with their very controlled state media apparatus , the true extent of hits they took can't be hidden. Blows their entire 'we did more damage than the US did to us ' online narrative up.
Meanwhile the highest end US estimate is 51 billion(https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/fact-check-team-how-much-is-the-iran-war-costing-the-us-pentagon-conflict-defense).
KronusTempus@reddit
They’re demanding reparations, I don’t see why they’d lie about the number. If anything, they have a good reason to overestimate the extent of the damage to demand more in reparations.
Final-Film-9576@reddit
You don't see why a murderous regime would lie? Ok then.
SEND_ME_REAL_PICS@reddit
I don't. Why would they lie against their own interests?
KronusTempus@reddit
No I see why Trump would lie, I just don’t see why Iran would lie given that they’re going to be presenting a bill to the US
Final-Film-9576@reddit
The two aren't mutually exclusive. We know Trump and Netanyahoo lie like it's a profession but don't think for a second that because the above are evil jerks, that Iran is any better.
HoidToTheMoon@reddit
It's always frustrating when y'all pretend that your enemies are simultaneously deviously clever and the dumbest people on the planet. Your claim just doesn't make sense. It doesn't matter if Iran is better or worse than America or Genocideland, their motivations do not lend towards underselling the damage the attacks against them lead to.
Final-Film-9576@reddit
I don't think they are clever at all, nor have I ever said anything here or in person to that effect. I think they are likely disorganized and enormously corrupt, and when you throw in the fact they are ideologues, probably narrow minded verging on ignorant. TBH, I don't care whether they over or undersell damages, they lie.
political-bureau@reddit
They'll be charging tolls for the SOH to fund rebuilding.
Redditthedog@reddit
that is never gonna be allowed to happen. Even if the US leaves the Gulf States will either act or just make their own tolls
Maeglom@reddit
How is that supposed to happen when the US can't break Iran's control of the straight? Do you expect Saudi Arabia or the UAE to do the ground invasion that the US is afraid to do?
Redditthedog@reddit
bold to claim the US can’t break the blockade before the war is over
photochadsupremacist@reddit
They couldn't even get the Houthis to stop blockading the gulf of aden
political-bureau@reddit
And they had 2 US carriers in the area.
Professional-Syrup-0@reddit
What’s bold is to still keep up this kind of delusional posturing even after the US literally tried a ”Nah-uh! We are blocking the straight now!” bluff and got promptly called out on it when Chinese ships just casually went through that American “blockade”.
OkDragonfruit8633@reddit
No Chinese ship has ran the blockade. How can this blatant disinformation be possible when we can all see the movement of ships on marine traffic?
g0ld-f1sh@reddit
On top of the tolls they're already charging, stack those invoices up baby that's business
Decent_Cheesecake_29@reddit
Convenience fee, inconvenience fee, fee fee
FuckYouThrowaway99@reddit
Ticketmaster: due to the results of the recent court findings, we are selling Live Nation and partnering with Iran on an unrelated joint venture.
RoostasTowel@reddit
I guess China and Europe will be paying more for their oil
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
Iran is never going to publically admit to more damage than was done as it would go contradictory to their public posturing that the US didn't hit anything(in spite of the footage that leaked out, we know the US got a handful of those underground facilities)
BendicantMias@reddit
That isn't their posturing, that's YOUR posturing lol. Trump is always boasting about how much damage he's caused, cos he has no other real accomplishments to boast about.
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
What your saying Iran has never postured about damage they claimed to have not received?
Basically every statement they've issued is that they have received little damage yet are now publicly admitting their damage is 2/3rds of their GDP. That directly contradicts every public statement they've made.
They say US strikes have had no impact yet their missile and drone launches went way down. That's impact.
Professional-Syrup-0@reddit
Are you actually that incapable of just having a good faith discussion, or simply reading the articles you submit here past the headline?
The Iranian government is releasing these numbers as part of demands for reparations, not to in an attempt to small-talk American effectiveness at destruction, as you seem to insist on.
Your victim is accounting for all the many ways you wronged and damaged it, demanding compensation. Yet you are so out of touch with that reality that your take on the situation is to low-key boast how you damaged them much more, like a proud bragging bully.
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
Your really trying to accuse me of not having a good faith discussion when people in here are saying Iran hasn't postured itself as not taking any damage during the war and downplaying damages throughout the conflict and saying that's not what they've done?
Y'all are just delusional at this point
FCOranje@reddit
Iran has claimed that the US hasn’t come close to damaging their military and that they have a lot left. They did concede that the US damaged a lot of infrastructure from oil facilities; ports; airports; a bridge; and a ton of other civilian infrastructure from housing to hospitals.
SpecialBeginning6430@reddit
Of course they would claim that
FCOranje@reddit
Iran has conceded to damage truthfully from the start of the war. They have retaliated to receiving damage consistently too.
FederalSandwich1854@reddit
"we are going to destroy a civilization" + 270 billion in damages... US is just setting itself up to pay reparations, they're obviously never going to
Shane-8300@reddit
But you guys already obliterated them last year!
HoidToTheMoon@reddit
Has that been the narrative? From what I've seen, outside of the usual war hawks most of the planet seems to be on the same page. America killed thousands of Iranians and destroyed military, government and civilian infrastructure throughout the country. That is an evil thing that should be condemned.
RisingDeadMan0@reddit
thats just direct US military cost, then add on all the funding they are sending to Israel who are attacking Iran, and then all the gulf allies who are getting bombed in retaliation.
Lucky Netenyahu... unlucky everyone else.
FederalSandwich1854@reddit
And then also the impact on the global economy, countries in Europe, East Asia. Increased gas costs, dwindling energy supply... I think we might be looking at a trillion dollar disaster that's only going to get worse before it gets better
loggy_sci@reddit
Yeah the cost to the U.S. should also include the cost to the rest of the world, because that makes sense.
Yall can’t help but exaggerate shit to the most absurd degree
FederalSandwich1854@reddit
What? I'm exaggerating a global economic crisis?
loggy_sci@reddit
This is about the Iranian cost and the U.S. cost. You came in with “And then also the impact on the global economy”, which we weren’t talking about, in reference to the cost to the U.S.
Professional-Syrup-0@reddit
This submission is about Iran estimating its damages as part of demanding reparations.
FederalSandwich1854@reddit
Not sure why my comment got you so tilted, just bringing up the world in the same context lmao
loggy_sci@reddit
Which doesn’t make sense given the discussion being had. But you tried it, I guess.
bradicality@reddit
Stop crying
Redditthedog@reddit
Iran refused to behave it wouldn’t concede on the nuclear and proxy issues and this resulted in a war. A war mind you that is the worlds problem more then Israel (who’s currency and stocks are at record highs) or the US who is profiting on the inflated oil costs. This is why Trump demands other countries join any effort to open the Straits
HamunaHamunaHamuna@reddit
A complete lie, since Iran had already conceded on the nuclear issue before Trump got into office, and then Trump tore up that deal for no other reason that he didn't make it.
FederalSandwich1854@reddit
Oh ok, why doesnt the US behave like a good example and also denuclearize?
Redditthedog@reddit
The US is a global power, Iran is not. Like it or not this is how international relations work
nuclearbearclaw@reddit
So like 60-70B if you include aid to Israel in the past 2 years.
We haven't sent aid money to the Gulf allies who are getting bombed. We are however selling them weapons, which is not the same. If you want to argue defense of those allies, that's already tied into the main cost of 51 billion.
But still, fuck Israel. We shouldn't be sending them shit.
MrTatyo@reddit
Yeah 51 billion plus the entire western hemisphere plus the gulf states are rethinking their positions with the US and Israel.
Even the NATO alliance might be on thin ice after this.
Redditthedog@reddit
the US is the winner of the oil turmoil, we are exporting record numbers at high prices (the US costs haven’t been effected) meaning we are profiting
Professional-Syrup-0@reddit
People downvote you for speaking out an inconvenient truth already forgotten: Prior to the attack on Iran the global economy was in an oil oversupply.
This has now obviously radically changed to a degree that the remaining oil exporters are having super profitable times.
Empty-Development298@reddit
Hes lying. My gas is nearly 6 dollars. Nobody here is winning shit.
TurtleFisher54@reddit
This war is currently costing 2 billion a day, it's going to cost 10-100x the total to fully repay the loans over the next decade or so
Just to give a few oil companies a couple hundred billion
andr386@reddit
Price at the pump is more expensive in the US too and the US is more defendant on oil prices. Everything is going to be more expensive in the US.
Everybody is going to be affected but the US will still be one of the most affected despite being a net exporter of oil. More than countries that have windmills, solar panels and public transports.
LeanTangerine001@reddit
They had planned $2 trillion in investments to the US!
Imagine if they they decide to cancel those plans and repurpose those funds away from the US!
NetworkLlama@reddit
KSA was never going to spend that much. They're pulling back on everything from their bad idea of a city in a wall to failing to buy golf and soccer fans.
andr386@reddit
I agree with your assessment. But I'll let you in on a secret.
Nobody is really going to honor those investments pledges. Sure some investments will happen but it was never going to be the amounts pledged. Neither Japan nor the EU nor the Gulf states really intended to follow through.
But they let Trump believe it or claim it as a success to bring home. That's all it was.
LeanTangerine001@reddit
True! And it was a great headline!
Now imagine how it’ll look when it goes the opposite way!
andr386@reddit
I am not sure what you mean by the opposite way.
The only foreign investment that will be made in the US will be to maintain market shares in the US. That's totally in our mutual interests.
But the rest of the world is going to diversify their investments away from the US in order to be less reliant on the US.
Other places in the world that do not behave like bullies and offer stability will receive more foreign investment and that is already happening.
It seems that the opposite of what Trump wants is actually happening and it's a long term trend when nobody can trust the US short term or long term.
LeanTangerine001@reddit
Just the opposite headlines of Trump secures $2trillion investment from gulf states.
“Trump loses $2 trillion investment from gulf states.”
And I agree that the US needs to worry about allied nations diversifying and hedging with other countries like China.
Petrodollar!!!!!
andr386@reddit
It's not only economical. The Global South, is not global but emerging countries are directly affected by American decisions too. It's not about going straight to China anymore. It's not about West versus South anymore. It's about values, partnership, reliability. It's about international laws, trust, ...
Deep new alliances will be forged and the world will be better for it. The US can take part in it but it seems to be going the opposite direction at the moment. We won't give up on the US but we need to build other relationships.
BendicantMias@reddit
That wasn't their narrative, propagandist. Their narrative was simply that you're losing. And they're hardly the only ones to be saying that, everyone outside Trumps' fan club is. They literally justified their Hormuz toll by saying that it was for reconstruction. And btw, if they get their way on that, it'll cover this figure on its own within about half a decade.
Firecracker048@reddit (OP)
That was their narrative. That they weren't taking any real damage.
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/03/12/are-irans-claims-that-us-israeli-strikes-have-had-no-impact-on-its-military-capabilities-t
2/3rds of GDP and reducition in missiles and drones being launched says directly otherwise to their public statements.
mightygilgamesh@reddit
It's in the damn title and the URL, they talk about damage to MILITARY CAPABILITIES. It takes a certain amount of "I don't know what the shit you smoke but it must be strong" to post this in a litteral way without noticing.
RoostasTowel@reddit
The USA is going to save a lot of money not having to have bases in the whole region and letting local forces do the job
LeanTangerine001@reddit
But doesn’t it lose one of the main components of the bargin it made with Saudi Arabia and the gulf states in the petrodollar?
The US provides guaranteed security and those gulf states will require all oil purchases to be in US dollars.
If the us pulls out their bases then why should the gulf states continue to uphold the petrodollar and therefore the USD as the global reserve currency?
SpecialBeginning6430@reddit
Peteodollar hasnt been relevent for a while
TurtleFisher54@reddit
What? It's not what it used to be, but its still significant
SpecialBeginning6430@reddit
Petrodollar was foundational to US influence, when the US was in competition with the Soviets, petrodollar is still significant, but no pinger foundational since its used in global trade beyond oil and the only people who have no business trading in dollars are sanctioned dictatorships.
People are treating it as foundational, but in fact nobody cares about what oil markets are priced in when they are conducting deals in USD when oil has less of an impact as a function of currency denomination than it did 50 years ago
haggerton@reddit
I don't know if you have any reading comprehension at this point. The article is about Iran's military capabilities, not about the cost of stuff blown up.
Its entire navy had no real capabilities against the US. Doesn't mean it was cheap.
HA_U_GAY@reddit
Yeah, a lot of post and comments in reddit just outright dismisses the damage inflicted to Iran or insist that damage inflicted to Iran is minimal while they over exaggerate the damage done to the US.
The amount of time I've seen people said that the Ford has been sunk in this conflict is absurd
i_wanna_b_the_guy@reddit
We wouldn’t know the actual costs because the US still hasn’t given one or confirmed the damage to radar sites or gulf bases and equipment, but Israel has confirmed 11.3b in costs on their side, and they seem to have lost significantly less equipment than the US
DocBigBrozer@reddit
Also, that's only US damage. How about DMG to Israel and GCC nations?
EnglishBrekkie_1604@reddit
The damage to global GDP from the oil shock this war has caused is almost certainly already in the trillions. Not to mention the figure you’re stating doesn’t include the damage or economic losses inflicted to the gulf states as a result of this war.
Like it or not, Iran is strategically winning; their victory condition is survival, and that is the most likely outcome of the war.
Redditthedog@reddit
the oil shock has meant US oil exports have flat costs but higher revenue. Iran meanwhile can’t export any oil in the long run they are already closing their taps
Future-Excuse6167@reddit
That's about what Trump wanted to continue the war, no? Let's just give Iran the money in reparations directly and call it a day.
I'm wearing a violet shirt today. It might be a women's shirt. I'm not sure.
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
oh hell no thats 270 billion we could be giving to NASA
Professional-Syrup-0@reddit
Who would then give some of those billions to Musk via SpaceX..
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
i dont care as long as that money is going to space exploration
mostard_seed@reddit
gotta love the 150 rule
Future-Excuse6167@reddit
It promotes intelligent discussion.
JustChillin3456@reddit
lol no it promotes writing Random ass sentences at best
mostard_seed@reddit
dude they are being sarcastic..
LiteVisiion@reddit
What 150 rule
mostard_seed@reddit
The first reply on any article on this sub has to he 150 or more characters or else the automod removes it. It is a measure to "encourage better discussions" and "reduce astroturfing", which is fair, but sometimes discussion can start from a brief comment or observation.
You can probably spot the fluff OP put in his reply to be able to post it.
Blackout38@reddit
Hmm spending $270 billion on Iran or spending $270 billion on Americans. Gee I’m not sure which choice he will make.
elgatothecat2@reddit
I’ve see enough, send $300 billion to Israel
DoctorDeath147@reddit
Still not enough
Shane-8300@reddit
Neither?
KronusTempus@reddit
I nearly pissed myself looking at your picture lol
ERG_S@reddit
Must be that handsome boi from idf account
Amadon29@reddit
😆
TomTomXD1234@reddit
That is nothing compared to the total global economical damage the US and Israel have caused. The loss in reputation and global alliances probably hurts more
doctazeus@reddit
I don't know why we always leave Russia out of this. Bias is showing.
BendicantMias@reddit
Usually I point out how empty and misused accusations of Whataboutism are. I think it's a pretty shitty defense to cry whataboutism whenever your hypocrisy is called out.
This, however, is one of those instances where I can lick my lips and point out how readily the west uses the very same tactic that it loves to call out lol.
How fitting, for an excuse used to avoid accusations of hypocrisy, to itself be hypocritically used by the accusers. Poetic, even.
sight_ful@reddit
This makes 0 sense. This post is "the west" calling out itself....
I hate the term, "the west". The countries grouped into that are all over the world and not singular in their decision making process.
BendicantMias@reddit
Well for what it's worth, I don't really club Japan, Korea or Latin America into the 'West', even though the former two are part of its alliance. So 'the West' then is North America (north of Mexico), Europe, Australia and New Zealand. Basically Europe + 4 other nations.
sight_ful@reddit
Well thats fine, but that description vastly varies person to person. Its a nebulous grouping. Why is Latin america not part of the west in your mind?
BendicantMias@reddit
You should ask the Costa Rican above. It's not my invention, the West invented the concept itself. It's always been more of a cultural or 'civilizational' concept than a geographical one - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_culture
In fact back when I was at uni in Australia there was quite a bit of controversy cos a conservative group wanted to start courses in 'western civilization'.
One of the most popular signposts of it is all the memes mourning the fall of Rome, or celebrating Greece's high point. I don't see Latin Americans do that much, but North Americans, Europeans and Australians do it all the time.
Tbh I can't say I've seen your confusion much. I've seen it questioned whether Russia is part of the west, but Latin America is almost never considered in it.
sight_ful@reddit
I know you didn't make up the term. Did you actually read your links though? They are all over the place, and Latin america is absolutely mentioned multiple times as part of it or sometimes part of it.
Professional-Syrup-0@reddit
It’s crazy how regularly this nonsense becomes a discussion, called it out again just a few days ago, only for some accounts to now be in here and play that exact: “There’s is no collective West but Iran is totally a Russian proxy and Russia is a Chinese proxy, axis of authocracy!1” spiel.
Additional_Ad_3530@reddit
You are right, I feel insulted if someone call my country "western".
USA, Canada and western Europe don't consider Latin America as part of the west, unless they need something, like when the Russia stuff happened or when they want to lecture Brazil about how to manage the Amazon forest.
_-__-____-__-_@reddit
Don't for a second think most of Europe is actually happy with this. Germany is terminally unable to criticize Israel, as are a bunch of conservatives from other European nations, but don't for a second think most Europeans would've preferred this.
loggy_sci@reddit
Bendicant talks about “the west” as if it is a single entity or person, because it’s a simplistic good guy/bad guy narrative and easy on his brain. It makes little sense otherwise. He will also start yelling at you like you, personally, are “the west” if you disagree to sharply. Lol
doctazeus@reddit
This isnt even whataboutism. America and Israel for sure cause a ton of destruction and Russia's also flattent much of Ukraine unprovoked. Bot army has arrived, went from +10 karma to -26 in minutes.
TomTomXD1234@reddit
Leave russia from what? What do u mean? Q
dangered@reddit
Iran uses a lot of proxies themselves but at times they are a proxy for Russia.
Russia and Iran are the closest thing to allies the two countries have. Russia backs Iran when Iran wants to do something that benefits Russia. Usually that ends up just being anything that’s anti-west.
https://worldcrunch.com/world-affairs/pawn-and-proxy-cold-truths-behind-the-iran-russia-alliance/
Syria is a great recent example of Iran and Russia working together.
Some journalists even think a meeting between Trump and Putin meeting could resolve the Iran conflict.
Professional-Syrup-0@reddit
Iran: “The US has caused us many billions of damage, we want reparations”
You: “But whatabout Russia and the axis of evil?!”
dangered@reddit
I’m not overly concerned with what the Russo-Iranian strategic partnership does.
I was just giving the context to a person asking how Russia was related to a discussion of the Middle East.
I’m completely indifferent to Iran, Ukraine, Russia, Israel drama. I’m cool just letting them flip a coin for both conflicts and the winner takes all.
Professional-Syrup-0@reddit
This article is about Iran estimating damages as part of demanding reparations from the U.S. and Gulf Countries.
If you think Russia is left out of the topic of war reparations then I got several hundreds of billions dollars worth Russian frozen assets to sell to you.
Meanwhile in this discussion the estimated costs for damages is not seen as: “Omg look at how much the aggressor has to pay for!”, as usually happens with Russia.
But instead turned around into a: “If Iran admits that much damage the real damage must be even worse! Look how Iran is nearly finished!” by OP with a North American flair.
devilsbard@reddit
What reputation did Russia have to start with?
sight_ful@reddit
Russia hasn't really been a part of this war. They have their own thing going, but that wasn't the topic here.
Bussy_Busta@reddit
Also Russia has been roundly condemned since they invaded Ukraine lol
Jacinto2702@reddit
Meanwhile Israel is still allowed in by the football associations and the IOC.
_-__-____-__-_@reddit
And Eurovision. It's not important, but it's still wrong.
KJongsDongUnYourFace@reddit
It's important for Israeli propaganda and highlighting Western double standards that have plagued the Global South for decades
DoctorDeath147@reddit
Cos that's irrelevant?
Ironlion45@reddit
What ultimately will prove to hurt the most is the damage to infrastructure.
It will take years and billions to get back to where we were a month ago.
giboauja@reddit
Yeah this is almost certainly a massive over exaggeration. Obviously they're incentived to do this as they're looking to justify a toll on the straight.
Knowing Iran very little of this would go back into building up their infrastructure. Which is frustrating.
None the less, lifting some of the sanctions on them would naturally allow them to accumulate this very quickly, along with releasing frozen assets.
If they start tolling, why not everyone else? Regardless of the reason its a horrible precedent.
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