Delta and American Airlines CRJ pilots at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport are making "meow," "ruff," and other animal sounds over the radio
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Found here : https://x.com/Turbinetraveler/status/2044341394446135423
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JPAV8R@reddit
There was a guy FIRED from a legacy for meowing on guard on OE.
I suspect a younger guy so imagine desire to be an idiot is so great you’re giving up on MILLIONS of dollars at retirement, the kind of career that would allow you to bestow lavish gifts on your family, amazing vacations. A retirement with millions in it that you can create generational wealth with.
But you had to meow on guard like an effing idiot.
What especially bothers me is when the meowing steps on actual instruction on com 1. With a lot of the flying I do it would be bad to keep guard so low you can barely hear it. So when a meow is as loud as my final vector to a final for an ILS I want to kill the idiot on guard.
Excellent-Gur-8547@reddit
The idea of a pilot building generational wealth is hysterical, thank you for the laugh
KaneIntent@reddit
I’m laughing at you thinking that passing on millions of dollars to your children and grandchildren isn’t generational wealth.
pluralpolyamouromath@reddit
I'm laughing that you think a functional society says someone's kids and grandkids don't have to work because they drove a bus in the sky for 20 years.
KaneIntent@reddit
Tell me that you don’t understand what generational wealth is without telling me that you don’t understand what generational wealth is.
pluralpolyamouromath@reddit
Guess you didn't make enough to really call it wealth then. Generational wealth is a myth unless you're extremely rich. And no functional society would support the idea to begin with.
KaneIntent@reddit
You have a very strange idea of what generational wealth is.
pluralpolyamouromath@reddit
no I just think you're doing the equivalent of pretending it's generational wealth to buy your kid a bicycle for his 12th birthday.
KaneIntent@reddit
In what world is leaving your children millions of dollars in savings and assets not generational wealth? You seem to think that having generational wealth means that you can buy a super yacht and private jet. It doesn’t.
pluralpolyamouromath@reddit
this is just about the least important part of our disagreement, I hope you realize.
JPAV8R@reddit
Assuming 3 kids and over $15 million in a retirement account. Not counting bank account, or assets just the 401k I don’t see how giving them 5 million on your death plus all the other insane opportunities you’ll afford them while making over 300k a year makes generational wealth a reach.
Explain how you think that’s hilarious. Remember all the airlines fund the 401k directly. You don’t need to give a % of your salary.
phatRV@reddit
Sensible people do that but I know people who make this kind of money tend to spend a lot and ended up working longer than they need. Like some ATP want to work till they are 67. I am an engineer and I know people who worked past 70 even when they got paid 200K/year. Those who are sensible can easily retire in their 50s
JPAV8R@reddit
I suspect divorce factors in a lot of these people.
brwaugs@reddit
You don’t think someone at a legacy could build generational wealth? What’s your number they would have to earn for you to consider it generational wealth. Because I think if some of these guys were hired early enough at a legacy, they absolutely can.
Excellent-Gur-8547@reddit
Probably high 7 digits, low 8s.
brwaugs@reddit
Ya many of the young 30 y/o I work with are projected to have over 10 mil by retirement easily, and the guys in there 20s…..sheeeeeesh. You absolutely can make generational money at a legacy
discipleofchrist69@reddit
just estimating but a pilot making $300k could pretty easily work up to low 8s in assets over their lifetime as long as they don't have a big spending problem. a simple calculation of saving $100k a year with 6% growth gets your net worth to $10m in 30 years, and that's a pretty comfortable savings rate on that income.
poser765@reddit
Yeah not unreasonable for a young new hire at one of the big 3.
Bravo2thebox2@reddit
There are currently legacy captains in their 20s. As long as they aren’t complete morons with their money they’ll retire close to $20million in their account.
private_birb@reddit
Why is it specifically meowing?
mightymac-89@reddit
I’ll take things that never happened for 500 Trebec
nopal_blanco@reddit
It’s like the kid who shows up to a checkride or interview with the examiners tail number in his logbook.
Tale as old as time, yet nobody actually knows someone it happened to.
Ataneruo@reddit
Someone on this sub not long ago posted about a trainee with the OP’s friend’s tail number in the trainee’s logbook. OP verified with his friend that the trainee had not flown in his friend’s plane. It obviously has happened.
JPAV8R@reddit
It happened during the great fog a mirror hiring spree.
Believe it or not, I don’t care, but remember the US 121 pilot world is incredibly small and a blunder like that makes the rounds.
mightymac-89@reddit
This sounds like the story I heard about some female new hire FO getting fired in 2016 for texting during taxi in. This never happened they just like to scare new hires and shit on the younger generation. At the majors even when you are on probation the union does still care about you and can still fight to protect you because, because we all want this to be a good place to work. You definitely have less official protections but there’s a reason there are pilot review boards and what not.
poser765@reddit
I’ve heard so many variations of this. Strange that it’s always a woman’s, though. Texting in taxi out, taxi in, on oe, while taking the runway, while CA was getting line checked. Every year in CQ I feel like the story gets even more outlandish.
I mean I’m sure someone has been fired for texted in n a critical phase of flight, but I feel like the story keeps growing to highlight the absurdity of the younger generation, and the old guys just eat it up.
Ataneruo@reddit
That’s just like every legend however. The basic event actually happened at one point, but as the story is told and retold it becomes grander and more embellished. That makes it inaccurate, not false, and the lesson to be drawn from it remains the same.
nopal_blanco@reddit
Sure. But I heard the same story at my current airline, and the one before that. Both occurred in the time frame you mentioned.
Firesondiego@reddit
Also are annoying those who immediately spam “Guard” when anyone transmits on guard. Mazatlán Center once was trying to reach an aircraft on guard, but since they were speaking Spanish, several pilots spammed, “Guard, you’re on guard.” And basically spoke over ATC trying to find someone. Give pilots a second and we’ll realize we’re transmitting on guard.
Tripleberst@reddit
"Please remove me from this email chain"
jello_sweaters@reddit
The kind of idiot who thinks it's funny to do this - and keep doing it after ATC says stop - is invariably the type who'll spend the rest of his life working whatever crap job, telling his drinking buddies "whatever, those guys were assholes anyway" while they all pretend what he did was somehow epic.
lil_layne@reddit
Do you have an article on that? I don’t see the strong pilot union allowing a pilot to be fired for meowing on frequency. There would have to be multiple warning and him continuing to do that or some other things that contributed to him being fired. I know pilots who have gotten multiple DUIs that still couldn’t get fired at a legacy.
whitesammy@reddit
I think this
JPAV8R@reddit
On OE you ain’t $hit to your union. You’re still probational. Why would this make the news?
lil_layne@reddit
Oh I glossed over the OE part, I’ve only seen it referred to as IOE. So he did it in front of a check pilot? That would indeed be dumb af.
JPAV8R@reddit
Should have written IOE. mb
coryntrevors@reddit
Yeah the guy was doing IOE and obviously on probation and the check airman gave him a warning about it the first time. Guy did it again on the next flight and the check airman walked him into the chief pilots office and they fired him on the spot.
whitesammy@reddit
This?
HonorAndKittens@reddit
I'm all for meowing in the right context, but this ain't it.
swakid8@reddit
Urban legend told in ever new hire class that I believe to be false
Cherry_Rat@reddit
CRAZY work to do that at DCA after the midair collision last year
Captain_Billy@reddit
It’s not “at DCA”. It’s on the general “emergency” frequency. It’s also not ATC “clapping back”. It’s other pilots.
Immature pilots are doing it to rage bait other pilots. Other tactics they do is click as if they are trying to turn in runway lights.
I’ll never understand rage baiting. I REALLY don’t understand rage baiting on a dedicated emergency frequency.
icarusbird@reddit
Wait, how can you tell this was on guard? I figured it was more likely flight sim shenanigans being passed off as real comm. 20+ years listening to VHF guard and I've never heard anything remotely this unprofessional.
Captain_Billy@reddit
East of the Mississippi in the flight levels, I cannot go a day without hearing an asshat doing it.
jooes@reddit
How stupid do you gotta be to try to ragebait other pilots? Why is that even a thing?
iampiolt@reddit
Hate to tell ya, but half the pilots I fly with are stupid. Good pilots, sure, but terrible life choices.
danit0ba94@reddit
I think it might be time we do a big sweeping check of every 121 cvr that passed through that airspace at that date & time.
The meowing is getting fucking ridiculous.
iampiolt@reddit
To be fair. One time someone clicked in to meow I definitely heard other ATC voices in the background. They’re doing that crap, too.
CaptainHaldol@reddit
Then I have some terrible news for you about the people manning nuclear reactors...and working in public safety. At least those categories can be diagnosed and treated for ADHD w/ risking their career.
Rare-Instance7961@reddit
We touch a lot of leaded gas in private pilot training
dragerfroe@reddit
That might fit their phycological profile? Living on the edge man, you have to entertain your "boring" safe flights.
superhash@reddit
it's kind of terrifying knowing pilots with such poor decision making skills are out there...
oranges1cle@reddit
It’s also not necessarily Delta or American regional pilots. Where did that even come from? The whole idea is that you can’t identify who’s meowing. The RJ assertion is completely fabricated. In my experience it’s probably a legacy pilot.
baconhead@reddit
At least it's slightly less crazy than the idiot at LGA messing with Canadian pilots only weeks after the crash
Lord_Master_Dorito@reddit
Didn’t hear about that. What did they do?
baconhead@reddit
Here's the VASAviation, highlights are asking "who wants to live in Canada?" and "FREEEEDOMMMM"
NLHNTR@reddit
Jeez, what an asshat. Contrast that against the pilots of Jazz 460 landing at LaGuardia about a week after the crash and calling tower to say “our thoughts are with your colleague who was working that day. We’re all hoping he’s okay.” And tower coming back with “really appreciate you guys. It means a lot.” Like, it’s not hard to be a decent human being and offer support to each other, but nooooo, some assholes just have to be miserable and try to bring others down to their level.
Note; Captain Steeeve on YT has a video about the Jazz 460 thing if you haven’t heard it.
HawksFantasy@reddit
They're not at the same facility. It was the NY TRACON fucking the Jazz pilots, not LGA tower. Completely different facilities.
Lonely-Prize-1662@reddit
That ATC should be fired.
ChrysisX@reddit
I believe it was someone at N90 not LGA but yeah not good look regardless
EvenMoreCoconuts@reddit
God that’s so fucking cringe. I’m glad he was met with zero responses when he was joking around about it after. No pilot dignified his antics.
Apprehensive_Cost937@reddit
Unfortunately some of the professionals pilots are neither professional, nor mature.
Few-Ability-7312@reddit
They are definitely former military
NatFuts@reddit
My assumption is always younger regional pilot pairing, most prior-military captains I fly with fly with guard deselected
ThatBaseball7433@reddit
Not really understanding why this doesn’t result in violations for the crews doing it. It’s distracting overworked controllers and planes in critical phases of flight. Just start pulling tickets or requiring check rides.
odischeese@reddit
Well that had everything to do with the pilot of the black hawk. Nothing to do with ATC or the airliners.
Apprehensive_Cost937@reddit
Separate frequencies for traffic flying in close proximity (and they couldn't hear each other), the use of visual separation at night, the use of circling approaches rather than straight-in ILS to increase flow of traffic... Sure, the helicopter crew misidentified the aircraft, but there were lot of other contributing factors involved.
WirelessWavetable@reddit
The helicopter was higher than they were supposed to be. If they were lower like the helicopter's flight instructor (lead?) said they should be then it wouldn't of happened.
informallyundecided@reddit
It's absolutely incredible that so few people who sound off on this accident do the bare minimum of reading the CVR transcript or skimming the final report. When their altitude was 400' the PM believed they were 300', and the PF reduced the altitude by 100'. By all appearances, both believed they were at or under 200'.
Finding 31 from the report: "Due to additive allowable tolerances of the helicopter’s pitot-static/altimeter system, it is likely that the crew of PAT25 observed a barometric altimeter altitude about 100 ft lower than the helicopter’s true altitude, resulting in the crew erroneously believing that they were under the published maximum altitude for Route 4."
The persistent, frankly sexist allegations that the female pilot wasn't paying attention to the male pilot, spread by people who clearly haven't looked into it themselves, if fkn gross.
Apprehensive_Cost937@reddit
The theoretical separation (helicopter at maximum permitted altitude and CRJ following precisely the 3 degree path) between the helicopter and the CRJ was 75ft.
Doesn't really scream safe air traffic management, doesn't it?
AdriftSpaceman@reddit
75 ft is what, a windshear away from a crash when if everything was "perfect"? Maybe not even that.
AdriftSpaceman@reddit
ATC being overworked probably was a collaborating cause.
Cherry_Rat@reddit
Yeah, the NTSB report took time to highlight how understaffing and chronic high volume periods at DCA created a culture of letting pilots maintain visual separation even in situations where ATC probably should've maintained separation among a few other issues about missing trainings and other culture issues.
Cherry_Rat@reddit
The NTSB report did list some issues at DCA's tower as contributing factors to the collision, but yeah, full blame on the military.
RustyPlastics@reddit
I am an ATCO in Europe and generally it seems to be more US pilots who keep spamming on 121.5.
Not sure if they know but we can detect easily which aircraft is talking on the frequency... The annoying part about this spamming is we have to monitor this frequency 24/7 so it becomes very tiresome when people abuse it for their stupidity.
RockSolid1106@reddit
How do you detect who is talking?
RustyPlastics@reddit
DF (direction finder) which will point me right to the aircraft transmitting.
rob189@reddit
Do they not broadcast the radio manufacturer and serial number of the radio aswell? I know some of the places I used to work at the radio sets would do that. They also had a unique identifier as well.
RustyPlastics@reddit
Nope they don't / at least I don't see that info because it is something I don't need to do my job. It is reported and then specials teams treat the report, pull the tapes, contact airlines, regulators etc with their findings
Gloomy_Butterfly7755@reddit
I am not in aviation so please correct me but there have been accidents where ATC mistook who spoke on radio right? Wouldnt a digital identifier solve that problem?
therealhlmencken@reddit
Wow, there exists a big difference expensive solution to a problem? Whoda thunk?
wehooper4@reddit
That would require the radios to not be analog still. That ain’t happening any time soon.
HarryTruman@reddit
Yeah that’d have to be a loooong cable.
pluralpolyamouromath@reddit
that doesn't make any sense. digital radio exists.
DietCherrySoda@reddit
?
moon__lander@reddit
I'm not radio specialists but I'm pretty sure they'd find a way to squeeze radio ID or whatever at the start and end of every transmission.
I don't know the architecture of radio systems on board if airplanes but I'd suspect they're highly digitalised and it may be possible to implement this with a simple firmware update. Digital data on AM would probably sound awful, even if broadcasted for fraction of a second so on receiver end they could skip it playing to the headphones.
Or just use ADS-B or any other digital system already on board to supplement this information on a side channel.
But biggest stopping point for implementing this I think would be that this would be a solution in search of a problem because as others have said, there are ways to figure it out anyway and lack of professionalism like this I hope is extremely rare, so for this purpose alone I don't think they'd want to mess with the aircraft systems, as I fear implementing such feature would probably mean recertifying every radio or at least the model.
If this was something that needed to be implemented, I'm sure it already would be.
Kichigai@reddit
Or you could just do it IBOC. [That's how HD Radio works](https://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/HD_Radio_(AM)). Just stick a digital signal in the guard bands along side the analog signal.
albgr03@reddit
This is actually doable in different ways, eg. by modulating the phase of the carrier in addition to the amplitude-modulated sound signal. (This is how the ALS162 time signal used to work: France Inter in AM, time signal in PM. Of course, one could not hear the time signal using an AM receiver.)
jld2k6@reddit
Kinda the opposite of how things went with police radios, soon as they found out they could digitize and encrypt to lock the public out they did it
firehawk_hx@reddit
Do you understand what radio is and how it works?
Gloomy_Butterfly7755@reddit
I do and you clearly dont. Digital radio has been a thing for decades in militarys, police agencys and even sailing ships.
brianwski@reddit
Heck, cell phones were analog up until the mid-1990s and switched 2.2 billion people/devices over to digital over the span of a few years pretty smoothly. Cell phones use radio waves. All of us have a digital radio in our pockets now.
firehawk_hx@reddit
It would not surprise me if digital radios made up less than 2% of total marketshare in aviation radios.
strumthebuilding@reddit
No. But couldn’t an analog radio signal contain an inaudible modulation unique to the transmitter?
OP_Skis_In_Jeans@reddit
Imagine being the chief pilot that has to deal with this type of bs lol. "Hey George, about that meowing on guard in Germany last week..."
RustyPlastics@reddit
I am sure the chief pilot is delighted having to answer to aviation regulating bodies about the pilot behavior at their company.
Vessbot@reddit
Holy shit I wish they would start doing this here too.
bg-j38@reddit
Everyone is saying "no you can't because it's analog" and that's not exactly accurate. You can pretty easily embed a small bit of data in an AM radio signal. The most obvious way is actually used on HF bands. It's called SELCAL and uses a set of tones to alert a plane based on an assigned code. You could also use DTMF. I think all you'd really need is a short DTMF burst at the start of the transmission. It might get tiresome and annoying though. But with modern radios you could also easily filter those out of the part that is heard by the radio operators.
You could also do stuff with phase shifting or low amplitude subcarriers but that's more error prone in bad radio conditions.
AM doesn't give you as many options but all of this already exists in FM broadcasting in the US in something called RDS, Radio Data System. It's how your car radio can sometimes show the name of the song playing.
So just because it's AM doesn't mean you can't transmit data. Ham radio operators have been fucking around with this stuff for decades and there's some incredibly cool tech that's been developed. Thing is it would be very expensive to retrofit planes and ATC systems globally and there's not enough demand or use for this to actually do that.
unicynicist@reddit
In-band DTMF signaling on aviation radio would chew up a lot of time. I'm trying to imagine what the LGA ATC feed would sound like if every open mic sent a 3-tone chirp.
DTMF is 50 ms tone + 50 ms gap minimum, plus time to break the squelch. "Delta 1234 contact departure", "roger", "holding short 31." A 350 ms chirp prepended to a 1.5-second "roger" is a 23% tax on channel time, when pilots are listening to maintain situational awareness and already know who's talking to whom.
Plus many of the folks on 121.5 meowing are probably flying with 40 year old radios that aren't going to upgrade to DTMF signaling, or radios with narrowband AM sidecarrier digital broadcasts.
wehooper4@reddit
No, radios are analog.
pezdal@reddit
no. aviation radio basically hasn't changed in 80 years
DanerysTargaryen@reddit
That’s amazing. As an Air Traffic Controller in the USA, we don’t have that ability here in the US. Every time pilots start meowing on guard (121.5) we have no idea who it is.
RustyPlastics@reddit
Unfortunately you guys are still stuck in the 1980s when it comes to hardware. It is amazing that controllers still keep moving this insane amount of traffic while getting dealt the shittiest cards ever in terms of equipment and working conditions.
UandB@reddit
Wouldn't be much help with as many planes are on the ground in DCA.
BMW_wulfi@reddit
meow
Detect that, chief
amanwithoutaname001@reddit
Maybe use DF for a PD (Police Dispatch) for a BAT (Breath Alcohol Test) as SOP (Standard Operating Procedures) to help ATC reduce the incidents of SPAM ( Seriously Pointless Airwave Monologue/Meows) on Guard.
immunotransplant@reddit
ADF
wayofaway@reddit
Not an ADF, those are airborne and show the bearing to a NDB station.
They are talking about a VDF, a VHF direction finder
Apprehensive_Cost937@reddit
I'm not sure about others, but Maastricht UAC have a system, where it will automatically triangulate the position of the aircraft, who is transmitting on the frequency, and circle it around the return on the controllers's screen to improve their situation awareness and reduce workload.
It's not particularly difficult to do the same for transmissions on 121.5.
BentGadget@reddit
This is an example of what they mean when they say the US air traffic control system is horribly outdated.
readmond@reddit
Nah, it is entire aviation radio system is horribly outdated. You should see internal combustion engines that small airplanes use. Those are 1930 tech.
TigerIll6480@reddit
They’re still more fuel efficient than jets. But they’re a lot more maintenance intensive, and more moving parts means more things can go disastrously wrong. Turboprops are kind of the middle ground, but still room for things like prop failures. The high-bypass turbofan is just where most things have landed on a balance of fuel economy vs. maintenance and durability.
readmond@reddit
More fuel efficient? Per passenger big jets beat small airplanes and even hybrid gas cars.
Terrh@reddit
Not even close?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_economy_in_aircraft?useskin=vector#Example_values
It looks like jets range from 50-116 MPG per seat.
Compare to a not even a hybrid honda odyssey that gets 224mpg per seat (28mpg hwy * 8 seats), the best jet is basically half that and the worst jets are less than 1/4.
GA aircraft are actually rather similar to jets, generally worse but some can do better.
You're right about them being 1930's tech and awful, though.
readmond@reddit
You win. But if you filled that Honda Odyssey with hamsters, it’d leave every jet in the dust.
TigerIll6480@reddit
I didn’t say that small planes were more fuel efficient. I said that piston engines were more fuel efficient than jets, as a general rule.
https://blog.flyhaa.com/blog/turbine-engine-vs-piston-engine
readmond@reddit
I’m not trying to argue. My point is just that aviation still relies on technology that’s basically on par with 1930s internal combustion engines, including manual mixture control. You’d never see something like that in a modern car. You’d have to go to a museum. It’s not about needing turbines to be “modern”. Even reaching the level of 1980s automotive technology would be a huge step forward.
TigerIll6480@reddit
You could likely adapt an EFI system to work with the very different air temperatures and pressures seen by aircraft, but it would be more complex than a car that can’t get over about 12,000’ in the mountains at the absolute worst.
rafy77@reddit
It’s WW2 technology, Germans used it to track partisans radios, but it’s not as widely used for ATC now because we have other reliable means of identification
elFlexor@reddit
I think that just uses plain old VDF (maybe from multiple ground stations to properly triangulate) - I've seen plain VDF on TWR controller screens in Switzerland, there it's essentially just a line from the center of the scope (where ATC sits) towards the station[s] transmitting in real time. If you have a mental model of where your planes are in space around you, it already helps to pinpoint who likely talked to you if it's somehow garbled.
Chairboy@reddit
A company in my town used to sell an ISA card (this dates it) for PCs that would be able to fingerprint specific transmitters. This was back in the 1990s, and their tech made it possible to build a log of who was transmitting so if a similar system was used, then someone who meows at one point and then checks in with their tail number at some other point would definitely be identified as the responsible aircraft.
So this tech exists and was pretty cheap 30 years ago which makes me think plenty of the meowers are known and that the only reason we don't hear about enforcement is that TBTB are holding this capability in their back pocket for a time when it really matters OR if someone is particularly egregious.
Terrh@reddit
This has been going on for decades before you were born and will continue until the last radio transmission is ever made.
Fourteen_Sticks@reddit
It’s wild, and depressing, to enter Gander airspace after a week of flying around Europe and realize you’re back in the land of pilots who sound like a bunch of degenerate over-the-road truckers.
velosnow@reddit
I’m skeptical of this. I hardly ever hear peep on guard in Europe or anywhere else for that matter but sure enough coasting in to the East Coast US it starts up.
RustyPlastics@reddit
skeptical about what? Unfortunately some people get “inspired” by US pilots doing it and so they repeat it in Europe. But yeah it is a lot less here than in the country of freedumb.
velosnow@reddit
Skeptical that it’s any real issue. As in nearly 10 years of flying in your lovely airspace I’ve heard it maybe once. Not discounting it happens, but thank the gods Freedumb land your not a controller for New York center.
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RustyPlastics@reddit
We have at least a few times a day people transmitting on guard some nonsense or doing stupid noise. It is by far not as often as in the US, luckily.
Modern radios on the ground can pick up waaaay more stuff than airplanes in the air so you might not always hear all the nonsense we hear
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Apprehensive_Cost937@reddit
A lot less here, and fortunately it has decreased a lot in the last few years.
I think that one memo from LaudaMotion circulating around the pilot community opened people's eyes, and made them realise it is extremely easy to find who is transmitting nonsense on 121.5 and report it to the airline and their overseeing authority.
ShwiftyJedi@reddit
meow
ThePoetMichael@reddit
Meow.
Historical-Edge-9332@reddit
If one of the pilots looks like this, I need you to tell me right meow.
double__duck@reddit
are you saying meow?
DeedsF1@reddit
Well played. "Thorny did 6, I think you can do 10!"
Individual-Tax8801@reddit
In the UK during covid someone was meowing on guard. They triangulated the signal and identified the aircraft. NATS filed a complaint with the European airline.
The airline called the two pilots to HQ to explain themselves. Neither would admit to it so both were fired.
RustyPlastics@reddit
Shit happens... And it is happening more and more because it is really tiring to work while idiots are goofing off on 121.5. My job is to actively monitor the frequency to be available for any aircraft requesting emergency assistance.
I guess it is comparable to simply prank calling emergency services
Fun_Internal_3562@reddit
Alguna forma de que una IA te ayude en esa supervision y realice un reporte detallado para que comuniquen a las autoridades aeroportuarias y a la línea aérea???
bullettenboss@reddit
AI will take over soon. That's bad for controllers, but it's gonna happen.
Fun_Internal_3562@reddit
De verdad que no comenté esa idea con mala intención. Pero esto es Reddit y la gente hace downvotes si no te gusta algo. Curioso
bullettenboss@reddit
Yes, it's not about the truth here.
RustyPlastics@reddit
We are sooooooooooo far away from that... You have no idea
RustyPlastics@reddit
Why would we need AI for that? If they are annoying and identifiable a report is made and then the appropriate authorities can deal with it and talk to the airline
mrvarmint@reddit
But…but…but… AI! And blockchain! We need to shoehorn those into everything!
MyvaJynaherz@reddit
Meow listen here bub.
GiveMeNews@reddit
I just watched a movie where channel 121.5 was a major plot point. It is called "Good News", a dark comedy based on the actual hijacking of Japan Airlines Flight 351.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt33550069/
ierdna100@reddit
Do they not get penalized?
RustyPlastics@reddit
I am sure based on some reports airlines do get a little meeting with their local authorities
ierdna100@reddit
Its a start I guess
RustyPlastics@reddit
well airlines are not happy about it because it puts them on the radar with local authorities... And the more your name pops up the more those want to look into your business which no airline wants. It also is very very bad PR and could even have consequences like losing permits to operate etc.
ierdna100@reddit
I mean more like Id expect the pilot to be involved directly. Like if you drive recklessly in a car the driver will have his permit revoked first, I would have presumed it was similar here (maybe not outright revoked for a pilot's licence but I hope I got the point across)
wayofaway@reddit
They can get additional training, a suspension, or even fired. I've heard of people getting fired over it, but usually that's some new hire continuing to do it after being told not to.
RustyPlastics@reddit
Well a reprimand from the chief pilot can often have big consequences for future upgrades and seniority within the airline so I think most do get the message once they had to pass that office
Likos02@reddit
Working in norad I completely agree. I cant even tell you how many times I had to yell at dudes "GET OFF GUARD" when they were just chatting.
DiligentCredit9222@reddit
That's because you will get your license revoked and fired if you are caught doing that in Europe.
Candle-Jolly@reddit
"This is why you still fly an RJ."
damn bro
Dialogical@reddit
^(meow)
Worshipme988@reddit
^^meow (derogatory)
CarminSanDiego@reddit
Yeah that meow after that burn was deflated
danit0ba94@reddit
I thought the same 😂
Acrobatic-Post9811@reddit
Sad meow🤣
Crafty-Inevitable874@reddit
"I liked it better when all you guys were furloughed"
markp_93@reddit
"can't spell furlough without 'fur'. meow."
JazznBlues_lover@reddit
Now that's very "low" of you. 🤡🤡
newaccountzuerich@reddit
Check out how the Irish and Scottish pronounce that word "lough", the one meaning "lake"..
Successful_Ship_7194@reddit
You mean ‘loch’. ‘Lough’ is Irish. It’s ‘loch’ in Scotland.
vaping_menace@reddit
Yeah, take my motherfucking upvote for that
Gin_OClock@reddit
Is it illegal to fly wearing a fursuit? Asking for a wolf
PicoDeBayou@reddit
Layman here. What is RJ?
splashythewhale@reddit
Tiny jets that connect the smaller airports to hubs. Think trips under like 500 miles.
If you are 6'+ tall you can barely stand up. Often carryons need gate checking.
They borderline look like the planes rich people own, but they shove 150 of us in there and call it a day.
GreenJirxle@reddit
Regional Jet. I assume he's denigrating the two pilots who fly smaller regional airlines because they tend to make less money than pilots with larger airlines.
Nearby-Medicine9484@reddit
Because they tend to be younger and thus less mature.
davyangel@reddit
Yes and they get crappier work hours and routes.
danit0ba94@reddit
And they fight janky little dog shit airplanes.
mike-manley@reddit
Does that include Embraer ERJs?
mthchsnn@reddit
Regional Jet
Stahi@reddit
Hence the ERJ & CRJ, OP.
jackofslayers@reddit
Regional Jets
Wikadood@reddit
Thinking about myself working on crjs still and thats totally valid.
Loose_Community9622@reddit
That's ruff
HungoverDemogorgon@reddit
Meow right to the feels
JazznBlues_lover@reddit
Such a sick burn, lol. Every pilot on that frequency be like
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdGtqNnRhYXozMzAwbjd4dWs4YmVpcDZtb3RmcGk5NjF0cDVncWMwNSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/GpyS1lJXJYupG/giphy.gif
BannedAgain-573@reddit
Ruff crowd
JazznBlues_lover@reddit
Grrrrrrrrrr You just had to go there didn't you?
xXRecktonXx@reddit
Bro woke up and chose violence
Xitztlacayotl@reddit
To be fair, the RJ airplane does look ridiculous.
GnarlyNarwhalNoms@reddit
💀
momsensical@reddit
Omg answering with a “meow.” That cracked me up.
ProJoe@reddit
what a burn. oh man
jackofslayers@reddit
The defeated little meow that came out after that line. I am cracking up
mencival@reddit
Meowy got burned
RecentAmbition3081@reddit
Morons
ArctycDev@reddit
Saw this on instagram and all the non-aviation people were like "god forbid people have fun at work" and shit lol, like literally no concept of what's going on, but they gotta have an opinion.
More_Than_I_Can_Chew@reddit
After hearing a few real deal emergencies on 121.5 with one of them likely being the last words ever spoken by the pilot or passenger ( I will never know).....it left an impression on me.
The unprofessional stuff I hear on guard is exceptionally disappointing.
aj9393@reddit
Not a pilot, but was a C-17 Loadmaster and spent a lot of time monitoring radios. It was imparted on us several times in training the importance of guard as an emergency frequency and to not fuck around with it.
ButteredPizza69420@reddit
Should be fired for this. Imagine knowing your pilot is fucking around like this - EVERY PASSENGER DESERVES A REFUND!
AdoringCHIN@reddit
I'm not a pilot so I'm guessing on guard means it's a channel set aside for emergency transmissions? What does that actually mean?
superspeck@reddit
Yes. GUARD is supposed to only be used for emergencies, it's the channel that ELT beacons, general aviation emergency calls, etc will use.
This is the radio/airplane equivalent of calling 911 and asking to order a pizza.
CptTurnersOpticNerve@reddit
calling 911 and meowing at them
bg-j38@reddit
Meow hold on a second. Is doing that sort of thing frowned upon meow?
MEOW!
LoornenTings@reddit
If you call 911 and order a pizza it means you're being held hostage.
LaunchTransient@reddit
Also not a pilot, but It's exactly that. Presumably the meme of people yelling "YERR ON GUAAAARD!" came about as a mockery of the people trying to keep the channel clear.
Pilots can a bunch of children too, but this is largely the bugsplatters and recreational pilots. Airline pilots tend to be a bit more professional as they are answerable to the company they work for.
re7swerb@reddit
It’s not just a mockery - people yell GUARRRRD at actual emergency transmissions on guard too.
LaunchTransient@reddit
That's the major problem, and why this behaviour is punishable with some fairly hefty fines if the FAA actually enforces the rules.
left4ched@reddit
It's one of the frequency channels reserved for emergency communications. Imagine if someone prank called 911; it's that same kinda behavior.
PiercedAndTattoedBoy@reddit
Doesn’t this violate some sort of sterile cockpit rule? How are they not ‘given a number’ to call to get chewed out and reported?
dylanm312@reddit
Sterile cockpit usually only applies below 10,000 feet
ConnectionSmooth9203@reddit
Exactly. Guard (121.5) is generally monitored by aircraft capable of doing so, and is only supposed to be used in cases of trouble or emergencies. Definitely not a channel for casual chatting.
LearningDumbThings@reddit
Yes. It’s a frequency monitored by all ATC facilities and should be monitored by all aircraft capable of monitoring a second frequency. This means that everybody is subjected to this idiocy, because a radio broadcasting a meow from 35,000’ transmits a long way. It causes missed standard communications, it causes crews to turn the frequency down or off, and it can lead to actual emergency transmissions getting missed or garbled. As you can hear, once people start meowing, other people get on frequency telling them to stop, and then nobody can hear anything what’s happening on their assigned frequencies. It’s asinine.
dechets-de-mariage@reddit
The airline equivalent of reply-all with “take me off this list.”
davedcne@reddit
121.5 MHz is the International Aeronautical Emergency Frequency (also known as VHF Guard), reserved exclusively for distress, urgency, and initial coordination of emergency aid. While 121.5 MHz is the standard for civilian aviation, 243.0 MHz serves as the Military Air Distress frequency, which is the second harmonic of the VHF guard.
Usage: The frequency is used for Mayday (distress) and Pan-pan (urgency) calls, as well as for air defense interception and locating lost aircraft. Monitoring: In the United States, a NOTAM requires all capable aircraft to maintain a listening watch on 121.5 MHz (or UHF 243.0 MHz). Satellite Changes: Since February 1, 2009, satellites no longer monitor 121.5 MHz for global detection; modern Emergency Locator Transmitters (ELTs) now primarily use the 406.0–406.1 MHz band, though 121.5 MHz remains active for local homing by search-and-rescue teams. Regulations: Misuse of the frequency is prohibited and can result in fines up to $19,246 per violation, equipment confiscation, or criminal charges, as the channel must remain clear for genuine emergencies.
lbutler1234@reddit
More info. Aircraft emergency frequency
CluesLostHelp@reddit
Guard is 121.5
the_silent_redditor@reddit
It’s so.. lame? It’s not at all funny?
Even outwith actual emergencies needing the airwaves.. it’s just so lame?
I’d hate to be a passenger on a jet with two fucking morons up front doing ‘meows’ and ‘ruffs’ as some sort of.. joke?
It isn’t funny? I don’t get it?
JaySayMayday@reddit
I agree. But this largely comes from extreme boredom. They're only allowed to read company material, talk with the copilot, and eat. As bored as you've been in the cabin it's worse in the cockpit.
That said, I hope pilots that are caught doing this get put on suspension. If you can't handle the job find another one.
JijiSpitz@reddit
This does not stem from boredom, it stems from immaturity
buttercup612@reddit
It's reddit humor, that's why it's so repellent
Outrageous_Potato958@reddit
Thats terrible, I've heard a couple GA planes have real issues on guard as well and it's haunting. And there's always those idiots saying "youre on guardddddd" as this poor baron is trying to get help.
Vessbot@reddit
This is fucking disgusting. I've heard it twice myself.
InTheHamIAm@reddit
Wasn’t there a Chinese fighter pilot who meowed at an American refueling tanker? Why is everyone meowing?
CrotchalFungus@reddit
Okay now that one is funny. The rest are only funny in flight sim land.
EstateAlternative416@reddit
Meowing has got to be the lamest and most played out way to have fun in aviation
Patrickd13@reddit
Is this even real? Fake ATC interactions are all over the place on facebook and tiktok
ActualSupervillain@reddit
We meow on our radios all the time! But "we" in this case are mechanics, on the ground, and certainly not on any aircraft frequency. We have hand radios for quick communication.
That said, even though I'm a clown, I could never imagine meowing on an emergency frequency. That's just insane.
Fixnfly99@reddit
I remember hearing a bunch of guys meowing on guard. Then one of the guys says “descend to 5000 brickyard 1234”. Guy was still transmitting on guard and forgot to switch his comms back to atc lol. It’s always the regional guys doing that shit
flyboy130@reddit
Lol. What indicates this is Delta and American or even a CRJ pilot at all other than the video creater just decided that they would use those images...?
anonymous4071@reddit
Get out of here with your logic
flyboy130@reddit
You right you right. My bad.
anonymous4071@reddit
if you haven’t reported the post already you should. this is pathetic
flyboy130@reddit
I did for low effort
Gayy4Justice@reddit
Considering Delta and American don’t fly crjs absolutely nothing lol
Mist_Rising@reddit
There are ways to identify who is using the radio, but this video doesn't prove anything.
THE_Tony_Perkis@reddit
Nothing indicates it. No one knows who is meowing. Like you said, the video creator made it up.
wolftick@reddit
As a passenger I really don't like the idea of pilots being unprofessional especially in busy airspace ...But also the sad meow after "This is why you still fly an RJ" is quite funny.
anonymous4071@reddit
This isn’t happening in busy airspace. The claims made are wholly unsubstantiated.
anonymous4071@reddit
I am by no means condoning this animalistic behavior, but…
What evidence is there that this was done at DCA? That it was AA or DL or their regional affiliate pilots? That it was CRJ pilots? That it was even pilots? That ATC scolded them?
Are we at a point in aviation reporting where we just take some random twitter post to be the absolute truth?
CeleritasLucis@reddit (OP)
Article : https://onemileatatime.com/news/pilots-meow-ruff-anger-atc/
anonymous4071@reddit
Nice of you to post an article with absolutely no concrete evidence of the claims it makes.
Few-Ability-7312@reddit
They are definitely former military
mibergeron@reddit
Settle down meow
haarschmuck@reddit
For those that don't know or don't understand, this is NOT on the tower/traffic frequency, this is on guard. Guard is 121.5 or the general "emergency channel" for anyone.
backpackyoghurt@reddit
Pure professionalism that doesn't have anything to do with any catastrophic disasters...
Balmong7@reddit
This was the kind of shit we did over the radio at the flight school I worked at, but I can’t imagine doing it with actual ATC
CassiCatto@reddit
No Meowing!
Hsst!
bassthrive@reddit
I know nothing about turbinetraveller, but what makes him so sure this is delta and aa?
United must have paid him.
momsensical@reddit
Is this an actual thing that happens 🤔 I’m torn on whether to think these pilots are awesome for having fun at their job vs. thinking… Aholes who need to be serious and professional.
RustyPlastics@reddit
No they are assholes because those frequencies are monitored by people 24/7 to ensure a pilot in distress can receive appropriate help.
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Sharikacat@reddit
Is this the next Super Troopers movie and the evolution of the cat game?
N1BugUp@reddit
Much better than meowing on guard is transmitting your PA or contacting ramp. I’m fairly certain people “accidentally” make PAs on guard to rage bait.
OhTheCamerasOnHello@reddit
Google it "meowing on guard" (on guard is 121.5 emergency frequency) and it seems to be a pretty common occurrence.
lbutler1234@reddit
Ok guys let's keep the MSFS airforceproud shit off this sub please.
...
Oh dear God.
Katana_DV20@reddit
You reminded me of the legendary FSX AFP vid where he was in the tower and a hot air balloon came by doing Mach 4 or something.
TampaPowers@reddit
Kinda sad that none of the crap we used to get up was ever recorded, cause it got wild before the servers were shut down.
Festivefire@reddit
Meowing and barking has been a thing in the aviation industry for like, decades. Go on YouTube and search 'meowing on guard' and you'll find lots of instances of it.
rathgrith@reddit
RIGHT MEOW
CompSolstice@reddit
"This is why you still fly an RJ."
HAHAAHAHHA
DailyRubicon@reddit
IKR!
Ooh, sick burn! 🤣
Thezoolityre1@reddit
At the end he didn't say "thank you very much," rather he said "there's a pretty big Ritalin dose you missed." 🤣
quadraticqueen@reddit
I thought I had the only career that often included phrases like “no thank you, this is an inappropriate time for meowing” (teacher), I was wrong.
LizardKing77733@reddit
Absolute no class or professionalism from anyone who does this shit on the radio. One of the reasons I detest flying through the states.
cofonseca@reddit
The "meow" thing has always been insanely stupid and cringe-worthy. Anyone meowing on frequency is a child and does not belong in the cockpit of a commercial aircraft.
dangerously_ignorant@reddit
You might not know who's a furry at first, but there will be signs.
Fenrirs-Fang@reddit
“This is why you still fly an RJ.” I’m licensed and I fly a desk at a corporate job, so flying an RJ would be awesome…
CarminSanDiego@reddit
Sounds like someone who flies an RJ would say
1Crownedngroovd@reddit
Doesn't matter whether it's an RJ or a C152.
Stormodin@reddit
Seacabbage@reddit
“I live my life at 100fpm climb”
JWE25@reddit
Flyings flyin
ShittyLanding@reddit
It matters a little
1Crownedngroovd@reddit
A 152 takes up just as much air time on the frequency as a 747, and can kill you just as quick. With controllers covering multiple frequencies and the airways more crowded than ever, there is absolutely no bandwidth for morons clogging the airways and creating distractions. Zero tolerance
ShittyLanding@reddit
I think we’re talking about different things.
Fenrirs-Fang@reddit
LOL.
devonhezter@reddit
Rj?
Billiam501@reddit
Regional jet; basically they fly for a regional airline, not actually Delta or American yet.
Private_Kyle@reddit
That's actually cool tbh. Pay without caring for your passengers
1Crownedngroovd@reddit
Those d-bags barking and meowing will soon be sitting at a desk next to you. Virtually every pro pilot I know, has nothing but contempt for these idiots
AcerolaUnderBlade@reddit
Such an hardass.
1Crownedngroovd@reddit
Nope. Just a pro with 21,000 flight hours and an appreciation for what's at stake and the dangers of mixing in idiots to an already congested and overworked air traffic control system. Have fun and act like a jr high schooler on the ground. Take a big machine up in the air? It's all business
Fenrirs-Fang@reddit
Agreed.
hoofglormuss@reddit
flying an rj is awesome it's basically practicing take offs and landings all day
Dialogical@reddit
^(meow)
Cautious_Buffalo6563@reddit
Only appropriate response: “Oh, what do you get paid to fly?”
Zargoza1@reddit
BigMotor5003@reddit
Sirs, this is not VATSIM.
chrome4fan4@reddit
Obviously there’s a deep level of unprofessionalism here, but I don’t think the meow/ruff was an issue, rather they prolonged the spam of the frequency, even when advised to stop.
If they did it once as a one off joke, yeah maybe a little unprofessional but pretty easy to overlook. Egging on doesn’t help the situation one bit.
Big_Peace5725@reddit
must be why they have so many accidents
Excellent-Gur-8547@reddit
They've had one accident in the past 44 years.
Big_Peace5725@reddit
I worked at DCA on the ramp. Based on my experience, your statement is false.
Excellent-Gur-8547@reddit
Then you were taking hallucinogens and we're imagining accidents, which sounds horrifying for someone on the ramp lol
AsstBalrog@reddit
Well, they'll have all the time in the world to bark and meow when they're LIVING IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER.
DarkPilot@reddit
Why the fuck are hey using the emergency freq? Like the fuck.
I've seen some small airports use shit like 123.45 for just chatting, but 121.5 is emerg only.
SpatulaWholesale@reddit
At the end does he say, "It's a pretty big Ritalin dose you missed?"
OldeFortran77@reddit
Mike Echo Oscar Whisky, over.
PillowFightrr@reddit
Last line “pretty good Ritalin dose you missed”.
Miss quoted as “thank you very much”.
elridgecatcher@reddit
Fucking around in busy airspace is how you get passengers killed. Pull these fuckers' licenses.
AiringOGrievances@reddit
And yet I’M the boomer for pointing out that younger millennials and Gen Z have failed to launch into adulthood.
I’ll never forget the day I witnessed a young millennial show up to his first day at work wearing a Cocoa Puffs T-shirt and torn jeans, and pouring himself a huge bowl of Lucky charms at his desk. Fucking child.
colpuck@reddit
you mean fucking legend.
PartisanMilkHotel@reddit
This is so embarrassing. It’s just not funny.
Heavy_Adeptness_373@reddit
As an ATC working in Europe I must confess that I heard meowing on guard countless times 🙊🙉
penguin__facts@reddit
I'm so curious about how and why this happens in aviation. I'm just a casual aviation enthusiast so maybe the answer is well known.
I'm a firefighter and this type of behavior is so crazy to me. I've never heard anything like this on our radios, the craziest things you hear on fire or EMS radios is people doing their normal professional radio traffic in a Boston or NY accent trying to play like they are big fire heroes. Is it an industry culture difference? We also have unique identifiers that come up with each radio so it shows "E67 Officer, or E361 Driver" as transmitting. Not sure how it works but our dispatcher also has the ability to cover our radio transmission if they need to, like if someone is sitting on the mic button. Is it just a money thing that prevents a system like that?
notusuallyhostile@reddit
I have to ask - why meow‽ I can’t think of a more infantilizing sound to make. How did meow become a pilot meme?
Peepeepoopoobutttoot@reddit
What is he saying at the end there? Doesn't sound like "Thank you very much"
Stahi@reddit
inb4 furries
Katana_DV20@reddit
"After landing checklist."
CVR - delete
See # 1
GameTheory27@reddit
what seems to be the problem meow?
bodyreddit@reddit
They should be arrested, fined and imprisoned and any licensing taken away, banished from anything dealing with flying including flying as a passenger.
CaptainRedPants@reddit
It just isn't funny. It's cringe, it's derivative. There's no "tradition" about it. Just asinine behavior.
EconomicalJacket@reddit
But I thought it was funny
CaptainRedPants@reddit
I glad we don't fly together.
EconomicalJacket@reddit
Lol yeah cause you still fly RJs
ErythingIsFakeAndGay@reddit
I love it when the response to someone asking them to stop is always “Ok delta.” Like delta pilots are the only ones who don’t want to hear this shit.
flying_penguin104@reddit
you have no idea if it was Delta or American pilots, or CRJ pilots… you don’t even have any idea if was pilots… such a stupid post
suspiciousgranolabar@reddit
If I knew my pilots were doing this shit in the cockpit when they should be focusing on their job, I would be pissed.
It’s also unfortunately pretty funny.
Anonymous_Fern@reddit
"You guys need to be proffessional pilots..."
"Meow Meow Meow Meow" but sassy like
Fucking kills me, and it's so stupid.
NLaBruiser@reddit
Not a pilot in any way, but interested in aviation.
This seems completely unprofessional, but worse than that what if someone was having an emergency and is getting stepped on, on 121.5, due to this stupidity?
Actual question - does anyone have the authority to hop on the air here and tell people to shut the fuck up on GUARD, and have the power to follow through with anyone who doesn't? Or is it just the wild fuckin west out there?
OP_Skis_In_Jeans@reddit
Meowing on guard is practically an ancient tradition at this point. Sure it's juvenile, but most pilots are basically 5 year olds in terms of humor so here we are.
Engelbert-n-Ernie@reddit
Can you (or someone) explain to my under-educated self what ‘Guard’ is?
From context I’m assuming it’s just the generic radio communication? Like channel 19 on a CB?
left4ched@reddit
It's an emergency channel. Not like a "Hey everyone hop on this freq for your random bullshit" channel, but more like a "shut up and listen this is important" kinda channel.
OP_Skis_In_Jeans@reddit
It's the emergency frequency. Supposed to be reserved for pilots having problems, but people accidentally (and intentionally) use it for non-emergency coms pretty regularly.
Guard is usually pretty quiet, so most of this stuff doesn't cause issues, but if it happens during an actual emergency it's a different story.
Engelbert-n-Ernie@reddit
Thanks 🍻🫡
Dexcerides@reddit
How do we know these were pilots?
Torn8oz@reddit
As just an aviation enthusiast and not a pilot, is it dumb for me to say this concerns me almost as much as other aviation issues like low ATC staffing? With everything else going on, I've never questioned whether my pilots are professional and qualified, but hearing them treat the frequency like a twitch chat is worrying...
redyambox@reddit
I only meow on 123.45 when there's nobody over the Pacific.
Inside the terminal area I have better shit to worry about than to meme. (I do read back any frequency with 67 in it with disgust though)
the_silent_redditor@reddit
What a knob lol
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Muted_Fuel7549@reddit
Sure its a pilot? Could be anybody from the ground who knows how to transmit on the radio sitting in an empty aircraft.
Hot_Upstairs_9783@reddit
No cure for stupid. People put their lives I. The hands of those idiots
Dr__-__Beeper@reddit
Who told you the pilots are doing it?
BeanRaider@reddit
Cant speak for this centre but here in Europe, mosy places can now see which plane is transmitting on freq using DF.
Not sure how aware the pilots are we have this though because people still meow on guard.
kayeffdee@reddit
"This is why you still fly an RJ" took me out! 🤣
Tcolls86@reddit
Do I look like a cat to you, boy? Do you see me jumping around all nimbly bembly from tree to tree?!
workinkindofhard@reddit
You stop laughing right meow!
BasilProfessional09@reddit
This is why I don’t bother listening to 121.5 east of the Rockies
Sht_n_giglz@reddit
Arch-by-the-way@reddit
I feel like this is fake and OP also believes schools are putting litter boxes in restrooms
CeleritasLucis@reddit (OP)
Not everyone lives in US. Sometimes meows are signs of just liking cats, not wanting to fuck them
RustyPlastics@reddit
this is unfortunately reality
nopal_blanco@reddit
121.5 gets a lot more frivolous chatter east of the Mississippi.
shrimpshrub75@reddit
Sure they shouldn’t be saying that on 121.5 but at least you know that if there is an actual emergency, they will stop and do what they can to help.
RustyPlastics@reddit
that isn't true at all... Pilots spam 121.5 even when someone is in a real emergency. Have had it plenty times
K2step70@reddit
Those pilots are idiots! Can ATC give them the phone number to call? Can ATC turn them in and possibly have their pilots license suspended?
DinkleBottoms@reddit
FCC handles radio issues. I don’t think the FAA really cares about how pilots behave on the radio unless they’ve violated some other rule.
21MPH21@reddit
No, the triangulation receivers were decommissioned. They could be brought back though
Another option would be for the other pilot (the one next to them) to report them to Pro-Stans (union committee that tries to get unprofessional actions corrected WITHOUT company involvement).
I've never heard a FO or CA (back when I was a FO) meow or fuck around on guard. Not sure who's doing it.
K2step70@reddit
Thank you!
Snow-Crash-42@reddit
Woof woof
DuelJ@reddit
Meow
ekkidee@reddit
Ruff!
Snow-Crash-42@reddit
Meow!
Llamasxy@reddit
Keep the meowing on guard, the regular frequencies are for serious business (and bad jokes)
Apprehensive_Cost937@reddit
How about pretend that you're an adult and not meow at all?
Brennan_Schwartz@reddit
devonhezter@reddit
This. ALS Lo love how Jim gaffigan is in it
lizardman49@reddit
God forbid we have fun around here
Dankest_Cow60@reddit
There's a time and a place. I don't think commercial aviation is it
shrimpshrub75@reddit
No you must be boring and dry all the time! No fun allowed. Not allowed to have fun at work. 😒
RustyPlastics@reddit
no it isn't fun forcing people to listen to your bullshit on 121.5 whose job it is to monitor the frequency to assist pilots in real distress.
lizardman49@reddit
I was 1000 percent kidding.
Also what is a guard Chanel for the uninitiated?
SonexBuilder@reddit
121.5 is guard.
leonworth@reddit
Keep it to 134.45 not guard
Ecthelion-O-Fountain@reddit
Just don’t
UserCheckNamesOut@reddit
WHISKER lima charlie...
roadbikemadman@reddit
I remember grownups. Sadly I find I am the grownup now. What is it with American "grownups" acting like infantile morons?
Satur_Nine@reddit
People don’t get embarrassed by anything anymore
glhaynes@reddit
"Everyone is 12 now" theory wins again.
DrFowlerr@reddit
^ guy who doesn't like to have fun
zone_of-danger@reddit
I don’t meow on the radio, but I’m still stuck in a CRJ. :(
DisjointedHuntsville@reddit
The fact we still use voice over radio to this day is amusing.
The fact that pilots clog up that spectrum with childish bullshit is tragic.
joejuga@reddit
Air crash investigation producers are gonna have a field day
luv2ctheworld@reddit
Still flying RJs....
BURN!!!
bearfootmedic@reddit
When the intrusive thoughts win...
TheGerrick@reddit
Meowing over the radio is a tradition as old as aircraft radio but doing it on 121.5 is pretty shitty
mlawson1217@reddit
Meow
canadiuman@reddit
Ruff ruff ruff
Samurlough@reddit
“Ah yes just the way your mother likes it, Trabec.”
reddituserperson1122@reddit
Excellent.
RowAdditional1614@reddit
You guys need to be professional commenters
CeleritasLucis@reddit (OP)
All meows are valid !
The-Raccoon-Is-Here@reddit
I am just disappointed the ATC didn't say "you need to be professional pilots right meow"
CousinEddysMotorHome@reddit
Meowing is how a lonely ATC finds a suitable mate when traffic is slow. When the next 7110 iteration is released, so are the baby ATCs and they start their training. The cycle repeats and life finds a way.
spizalert@reddit
not sure if that is the airspace to be doing lighthearted classroom bits in.....
post-explainer@reddit
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