People who could live somewhere else if you wanted, why do you choose to stay here in the UK?
Posted by RobintehBobin@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 182 comments
To be clear, I mean this to be a positive post. I feel like it's impossible to escape a constant slew of social media posts about how young people are all emigrating to Australia/SE Asia because our island is supposedly the worst place on earth, and news articles about how all the billionaires and business owners are moving to Dubai because of tax laws.
But the reality is, millions of people who are fortunate enough to have the means and opportunities to move abroad if they want to, still live here. Clearly, this country is better than our British complaining culture makes it out to be.
So why are you still here? What do you like about this place?
For me, it's the sheer density of historical buildings, culture, beautiful countryside, and activities. I live in the East Midlands and I can get to so many incredible places in just a couple of hours. There's even countless beautiful villages and places within a 10 mile radius of me (and no, I'm not talking about tourist hotspot places in the Cotswolds, I'm literally talking about basically any village near me, all of which are beautiful and yet have no tourism).
bars_and_plates@reddit
I could live almost anywhere if I wanted to go through the visa process (usually would be an investor visa).
I love England and Britain more generally. I am English, I feel English and always will do.
I like our villages and towns. I like our countryside. I like our accents. I like the font we use on our road signs. I like a big Georgian townhouse or a big country manor with climbers. I like the Tube, even if I often hate the people. I could go on almost forever.
I absolutely despise the politicians. The tax system. The dossers. The general sense that, everything we have is a slowly degrading inheritance from a time when we were #1. I could also go on almost forever here.
But it is my home. My England. I could live anywhere and I would still be that English bloke and everyone would know it.
So here I am. For now at least. They haven't managed to figure out how to steal it all yet.
continentaldreams@reddit
I live in a vibrant city with all the amenities I could ever want. I am a short drive from the Yorkshire Dales, and yet I can be in the capital cities of both England and Scotland within 3 hours. The distinction between the seasons is also a big plus for me - I love that I can feel autumn coming, much like how right now we can feel summer coming.
We're also perfectly placed in the world - we're so close to the rest of Europe yet often only one flight away from countries like Thailand. Our passports are some of the best in the world. We are welcomed everywhere and do not have to deal with severe military or political unrest. We're lucky to live here.
Killybug@reddit
Only a three hour drive and a 12 hour flight to Thailand? What a location!
SomethingPeach@reddit
I always think about how lucky we are location wise! It's very convenient for those of us that like to travel haha.
continentaldreams@reddit
Oh totally. I can book a flight right now for tonight and I could be in Spain before bedtime. That is just completely out of reach for most people.
Stefgrep66@reddit
Yep, I was in Fuerteventura having my last pint at 1pm, I was back home by 9pm after a 2 hour drive from the airport!🙂
CosiDuci@reddit
Haha that’s funny I live in Leeds as well and go to Spain on Friday 🤗
Dry-Programmer2645@reddit
Ooh where exactly in England are you? From someone desperate to leave the South of England
continentaldreams@reddit
Leeds!
Diligent_Craft_1165@reddit
My other visa option is the US so I’m fucked either way
sv21js@reddit
I could move to the countries my husband is a citizen of, but one thing that you won’t appreciate about the UK until you’ve tried living in other parts of the world is the blessing and miracle of our administrative processes. If i needed a replacement passport, I could have one this week. If I submit a form to the UK government, I can usually do it online and they will confirm they receive it and usually process it quickly. The labyrinthine hellscape of trying to do the smallest thing in certain other countries cannot be expressed.
nfurnoh@reddit
I moved to Leeds from Chicago 24 years ago and still love it here and have no intention of ever moving anywhere else. Yorkshire is great. The people, the scenery, the pace of life. It’s good for access to either coast, to the North, and to airports. My quality of life up here is far better than the States and even other places in the UK.
DaysyFields@reddit
Because I can't think of anywhere that would be better.
Relative_Sea3386@reddit
I come from SE Asia and hate their entitled attitudes, obsession with money and societal status. Kids conditioned from young and schools are just labour factories. Built on cheap foreign labour and maids, yet treat them as third class caste and never get citizenship. Not too different to Dubai. They complain way more viciously than Brits.
Apart from a small subset of Surrey and Essex stereotypes i feel like most of the UK is liberal, fair, chilled and great sense of humour. I like Canadian and Aussie culture too.
lasdun@reddit
I don't speak other languages (no continental europe, China, Japan etc)
I want to live somewhere politically free and socially liberal (no gulf, no singapore)
I want a big economy with lots of career potential (no malta, cyprus, gibraltar, etc)
I like walkable cities and good public transport (excludes all of Ireland and New Zealand, most of Canada, the USA and Australia)
I value my time off, and having great places to visit (goodbye USA)
I want to be within a few hours of family and friends (no Australia, New Zealand)
I don't want a colder/wetter climate than this (farewell Canada, so close...)
So here we are! Might not be the best on each criteria, but on a combination of all of them, it's the best.
lasdun@reddit
probably the best candidate, but I’m really not sure I could stand to be around the Dutch and their radical candour all the time
mmoonbelly@reddit
Tell me you want to live in the Netherlands, without telling me you want to live in the Netherlands;)
Effective_Taro4601@reddit
If the UK is such a shit place to live then why do all these people risk their lives to get here? Social media is a cess pit for extremists who have their own agenda. I stay in the uk because that’s where my work and family are, I might retire abroad but that would be for the weather as much as anything.
veetmaya1929@reddit
It’s all relative ….
TeenWoolf100@reddit
They come herefor the free handouts, I'm shocked you even need to ask!
RobintehBobin@reddit (OP)
Agreed on all of this. If I could change one thing about the UK? It would probably be to make the weather be more consistently sunny in the summer; that's one of the only things we are missing.
And yeah, social media is indeed a cesspit.
lavender_cookie_@reddit
I just want more spring weather and less winter darkness can we do that? 😂😂
confuzzledfather@reddit
I think the changeable weather is part of the reason for our generally sensible national vibe. We have had to as a nation take the somewhat rough with the somewhat smooth. We are the living embodiment of everything in moderation.
Other nations either have to deal with extreme cold, or constant heat, or tornadoes or earth quakes, and thats got to have some impact on them, either feeling like victims or gods chosen children.
Nice_Back_9977@reddit
Winter darkness is the price we pay for long summer evenings though! Its worth it.
Random-Name-1901@reddit
Yup - australian here. They are amazing and at least you aren't suffering bushfires and heat stroke.
Effective_Taro4601@reddit
Sort the weather out and make wine and beer a bit cheaper and I’d never leave.
Brave_Assumption6@reddit
If you just take a day or two off social media and just go outside to a nice town or countryside you would completely forget all these problems.
RobintehBobin@reddit (OP)
Bro you've missed the point entirely. I literally said in my post that there are multiple things I love about this place. Ironically though, not using social media would mean I'd avoid reddit smooth-brains like you ;)
Brave_Assumption6@reddit
My comment wasn't aimed at you but as an agreement that social media is a cesspit.
SuperHansDunYourMum@reddit
Being better than Afghanistan is not much of a boast, is it?
Effective_Taro4601@reddit
That’s true, but it’s not just Afghan. Look how many Aussies, Brazilians, Europeans etc have decided to make the UK their home (admittedly, they don’t run the same risks getting here).
AnonymousTimewaster@reddit
It's also the attitude that prevents us from demanding better.
Gymrat1010@reddit
I work in a super exciting niche field thats only really exists in a few small areas of the globe. I could live in Switzerland, The US, or here... The thing about here is, I earn much less than if I was in one of the other areas, but I get to live in my hometown. My colleagues are from all over the world, and they're always shocked to find out I'm just /from/ here.
I have worked abroad, too, but my Mum got ill & home called.
froghogdog19@reddit
Is your career to do with physics?
Gymrat1010@reddit
Yes, kind of. I'm an Engineer on big physics & superconducticity projects so I work with a lot of physicists
fartbraintank@reddit
Hope your mum gets better.
Gymrat1010@reddit
Thank you
YouCantArgueWithThis@reddit
I actually came to live in the UK. Best decision ever.
Some of you guys don't know how good you have.
losingfocus2015@reddit
second this
SituationMundane5452@reddit
The only thing keeping me here is my young daughter (to a previous relationship)
I won’t go in to detail, won’t disclose where I live, but I could literally sit on my doorstep and watch passers by and not see another british person for hours. I cannot think of another country where this would happen. Uk is f#cked.
NoseGraze@reddit
I like the weather and humour.
MTFUandPedal@reddit
Ive travelled around a lot of the world. That's a big claim but a fairly accurate one.
This is home. It's where I'm from. It's where millennia of my ancestors are from. I'm part of it and its part of me.
Other_Bookkeeper_279@reddit
Family tree from 1724, long lineage of farmers feeding the nation, from being the farm hand for 200 years to tennant farmers to finally owning a farm, we belong to this land
Fit_Peanut_8801@reddit
I've lived in 6 countries and they all have their own problems. I just moved back to the UK after 12 years abroad and would be enjoying it a lot more if it weren't so expensive!!!
notanadultyadult@reddit
Because you won’t give my county back to its rightful owner.
Ill-Opportunity8918@reddit
I'm happy in England and I'd probably move near the north Yorkshire coast but a bit inland if I had the work and money for a better house. I love Spain though. I'd love to live there. Not in a tourist area. Somewhere quiet but maybe 30 mins from the sea.
hiddenkinkz@reddit
Our son lives 15 minutes from our house and the thought of being far away is hard. But… every month that goes by (and every crazy thing this government does or says) we are closer to leaving the UK. We’ve started visiting countries evaluating where to go if that point comes that we can’t stand it any more).
Opposite-Wonder-6752@reddit
I work for an Australian company and they have offered to sponsor me a few times but I can’t do it 😂 it sounds appealing but I do love the UK. I like that the weather is mild all year, I think our countryside is the most beautiful place on the planet and I love the food and pub culture.
The UK has its faults but so does everywhere and to me this is home and where all my family are 😊
GingerrJinx@reddit
Since moving to the UK I built an entire life here, so it's very difficult to just get up an erase 10 years of my life to move to another country and start over. I did that once and it was incredibly difficult to get where I am now, so even if things are tougher, I'm not gonna give up on the UK just yet. Only if they kick me I'll leave and start over someplace else.
travellingtriffid@reddit
Family and, despite what you'll see written on reddit, we have things pretty good in the UK. Still, might go back to Straya to retire. (I hold Aussie citizenship too.)
aurifx@reddit
I grew up in South Africa and although not as warm it is much safer and less violent. I was surprised though how racist some brits are even towards me and I am ancestral British.
PinOwn4261@reddit
I live in the South East of London and I’m desperate to get away. I go to Wales at any excuse I get and when it’s financially possible, I love to hike and be outdoors in general. When I’m in a position to move out I’ll be seriously considering going Wales or the North of England. The thing that worries me is losing all my connections and finding work.
Lollygagger105@reddit
History, landscape, culture, the seasons
yafe-flacko@reddit
because England is wonderful. feels like home.
DECKTHEBALLZ@reddit
You can use Working Holiday Visas to travel the world until you are 35.
Alasdair91@reddit
I lived abroad. Came home as I got married. Now I can’t leave because of Brexit. Love that for me.
Random-Name-1901@reddit
I'm an Aussie that has been priced out of the area I'm from back home. I missed the property boom that happened there, and now if i moved back I'd be giving up a lot to live hours from any family and friends. Breaks my heart.
Rebrado@reddit
I migrated to the UK, so I did have a chance to live elsewhere and chose here
danabrey@reddit
It's all propaganda. Stop looking at it.
uneasy-chicken@reddit
I lived in Texas with zero income tax and constant sunshine for a few years. It in no way compensated for the lack of things to do, rampant focus on money, social and medical inequality and religious hypocrisy. And the fact my toddler did shooter lockdown practice at nursery.
AwkwardTie9427@reddit
My job is well paid
JamOverCream@reddit
I’ve lived and worked in the Middle East, mainland Europe and the US. My profession and skills make it relatively easy to get working visas if required.
I like the people, the countryside, our culture, our foods. The weather is a bit rubbish, but on balance I prefer UK to other places that I’ve spent 1 year or more.
UK most certainly isn’t perfect, but I love it.
be_sugary@reddit
No place like home.
I like my public transport, I like the weather, I like the people and I love I can live here happily!
And I love that we can all collectively have a moan about everything. But still understand we wouldn’t be happy anywhere else!
These_Storm_4401@reddit
My main hobbies are hiking, sailing and watching live music/sports.
I can't think of another country that even comes close.
Vast_Association_912@reddit
Honestly, quality of life is still pretty solid and good healthcare, walkable cities, history everywhere, and you’re never far from something interesting.
PatchcordAdams@reddit
I love the history dotted around. The house next to my local pub was built in 1550. The Church opposite 1701.
There’s castle ruins dotted around, not even really marked.
SceneDifferent1041@reddit
In Mrs Doyle's voice
"Perhaps I like the misery"
Feeling-Boss787@reddit
So tired of these same bone questions every week.
Ok_Hand813@reddit
I don't think anyone chooses that really because even if you want to leave like me it's almost impossible. Can't save any money with the cost of living in UK . And with no money how can you go somewhere
Jenpot@reddit
I'm here because my husband doesn't want to live abroad.
AnonymousTimewaster@reddit
Same here but for my wife.
Sattaman6@reddit
Because London is the best city in the world.
Nice_Back_9977@reddit
I'm a nurse so can take my qualification to a lot of countries quite easily. I've never had any desire to go to Australia as a lot of British nurses do, too far away, too isolated, the culture doesn't appeal to me. New Zealand is slightly more tempting but falls down on distance back to home. Not interested in the Middle East at all despite the money being insane!
I did seriously consider Canada a few years ago, wonderful country, great people, but the cost of living in the most desirable places is eye watering, I would have been taking a slight pay cut in real terms and a huge drop in spending power and would have only had 4 weeks holiday per year compared to 7 weeks in the NHS. The last one was the clincher for me, in a stressful job time off is so important and I love to travel and see new places. With only 4 weeks off I'd have felt obliged to use two to come home and see family leaving just one two week holiday to go somewhere new. That won't do!
So I stay in the UK for three reasons really. My family and friends are mostly here. My salary here buys me a comfortable life. My annual leave is enough to give me a few good breaks each year to take a variety of holidays.
Brave_Assumption6@reddit
Curious why even consider going so far away especially when your family and friends are in Britain? It's too much if you'd ask me.
Just hop across the channel to the Netherlands or France. (And France gives a nicer climate as well and generally a more relaxed 'wine' lifestyle). I personally think Canada is very overidealised almost like Japan tends to be. Probably because it's right next to the USA? But you've already explained its big negatives like eye-watering prices, and Canadians are actually not too different from Americans.
Canadians tend to be called 'polite' but only because they're right next to America and relative to Americans they are more polite (at least Anglophone Canada, not the Francophone part) but not really anything to shout home about to us here in Europe to be honest.
Nice_Back_9977@reddit
Have you ever been to British Columbia? Its incredibly beautiful. If I ever won the Euromillions and didn't have to work I'd be there half the year. The lifestyle suits me apart from the working culture! I think you're being a bit harsh about the people frankly, I preferred them to the French!
I don't speak Dutch or French so can't work as a nurse in either of those countries.
Brave_Assumption6@reddit
Oh I wasn't talking geography wise. But I know how beautiful Canada is in BC and the 'Rockies' mountain range. Yukon is also really beautiful to me with those mountains and big green pine trees everywhere. It's right next to Alaska as well so it gets real cold!
Ah sorry maybe I am a little harsh. I suppose it was just a little backlash response against the fact Canada does get so overidealised.
Hm if I was in that position I'd rather learn basic Dutch or French instead of moving across oceans around the world just for the fact of having family and friends in Britain. I really can't imagine being so far away that I would rarely ever get to see them and having to start all over again trying to find meaningful friendships.
Nice_Back_9977@reddit
I'm not looking to move abroad for the sake of it, so no reason to learn Dutch or French as I have no desire to live in the Netherlands or in France! I considered Canada because I like Canada. We've established that you wouldn't consider it, which is fine!
Brave_Assumption6@reddit
Your second paragraph is very subjective. Maybe easy for you to say. For me it meant significant downgrade or loss of connections and missing them.
Nice_Back_9977@reddit
I'm sorry to hear that.
LordBrixton@reddit
I'd struggle to find work anywhere else, and I don't have enough money to retire.
TomfromLondon@reddit
I've lived in Amsterdam and Cluj in Romania, I just prefer it here (London)
poshbakerloo@reddit
All my friends and family is here, my life is here. I don't hate any of it, or them, why would I abandon everything to live in a developing country 🤷
treelover164@reddit
It’s a beautiful country with a climate that’s really amenable to outdoor activities (obviously debatable depending on the activity, but for my hobby of choice it’s superb). There’s a brilliant network of public rights of way.
My friends and family are here and I am culturally very British. I don’t fancy being an outsider somewhere else, I like the sense of belonging, knowing how everything works societally. British humour and pub culture is unmatched. I don’t speak another language.
dwair@reddit
I have to ask what your hobby is because I can't think of anything you can do here that isn't a lot more enjoyable / better somewhere else because the climate here is so damp and miserable. Even if you go caving the dam things flood for half the year (I have a climbing/mountaineering, white water and surfing background).
courage_the_dog@reddit
We moved to Edinburgh a few years ago and loved it, also lived around cambridge before and liked that.
The UK has a certain charm to it, weather is nice as well, can travel all over.
ddbbaarrtt@reddit
I love the UK and all my family and friends are here. Even if I don’t see them all weekly it’s nice to know that they’re nearby and we can do impromptu meetups
I also don’t really buy the benefits of plenty of the other places you mention (not saying that you’re trying to sell them), and Europe is on our doorstep - in the past 9 months I’ve done trips to the Norwegian fjords and Lisbon.
I’ve been to the UAE and it just isn’t for me at all. I love the history of the UK - all the National Trust places, heritage sites, there are brilliant museums across all major towns and cities. And I have no desire to live in 40 degree heat. I also have friends in Dubai currently and despite their insistence that everything has been fine, I know that where I live in Oxfordshire I’ll never have missiles exploding over my head. And we don’t have slavery
SomethingPeach@reddit
It all comes down to perception bias. Every country has its own problems, but you tend to notice the ones in the place you live much more clearly because you experience them directly.
For example, Australia and parts of Southeast Asia are often talked about as if they are some kind of escape from the UK, but they have their own significant challenges. Australia has very high housing costs in cities like Sydney and Melbourne, along with cost of living pressures and inequality between urban and regional areas. Southeast Asia can offer a great quality of life in many respects, but there are still issues such as job insecurity for foreigners, visa restrictions, pollution in certain cities, and large disparities in income and infrastructure depending on location.
The same applies to places like Dubai, which is often framed as a tax-friendly haven. While it does have financial advantages for some, it also comes with trade-offs such as extreme climate conditions, much stricter legal and cultural frameworks than many Westerners are used to, and a labour market structure that is very different depending on residency status.
The UK certainly has its own problems as well, but the broader point is that most countries are not objectively “better” or “worse” in overall terms. They just have different trade-offs. You also tend to hear far more negative commentary about your own country, which can create the impression that everywhere else is doing significantly better when in reality you are mostly seeing a filtered, selective view of other places.
dwair@reddit
It's also completely subjective. The things that I dislike about some places, other people may enjoy or not be bothered by. I lived in South Africa for a few years and preferred it to here because the weather was nice and going outside was enjoyable. Other people would worry about crime rates.
Andries89@reddit
The people and the culture
FletchLives99@reddit
London is a great city
urtcheese@reddit
My wife is not from here and spent her life savings getting a degree here and immigrating from her 'developing' country. Once she has her citizenship we'll maybe look to move but atm it's all good.
Few_House_5201@reddit
I love the UK. I’m a second generation Greek Cypriot immigrant and have always found everyone super friendly towards me and my family. Discussions around my dark skin have always been respectful and people being interested rather than rude.
I have many friends here, a successful business (which I could run from anywhere in the world) and a wonderful life.
Never understood the UK knockers on here, it’s treated me and my family so well, I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
Vemyx@reddit
you're part of a privileged few my friend, that's why. But, hats off to you
Ready-Fox-3264@reddit
I’m gay and originally from eastern Europe. My parents disowned me when I was 17 and I moved to England a year later.
English was the only foreign language I could speak well back then, so the UK was an obvious choice.
But I decided to stay long term and built a life here because I felt welcome and I also felt I could truly be myself.
I’m in my late thirties and this country is my home.
Training-Trifle-2572@reddit
I earn decent money and have a small but serviceable family home. It's a very safe place to be a woman which is also a plus. The cost of living increase vs stagnant wages thing is a bit depressing, and I'm dreading trying to fund childcare and balance being the breadwinner around being a mother when I finish maternity leave, but otherwise life here is good. I just wish we had a bit more sun and a bit less rain, and there was more support for working families. The motherhood penalty is very real.
moofacemoo@reddit
My parents. They are getting old, their health is in major decline, one has cancer. Its unfair to leave them alone. Otherwise I'd try another part of the UK at the very least and possibly another part of the world.
Eskimojudi123@reddit
I'm from a Nordic country but I've lived in the UK for 12 years. I wasn't planning on staying here long term, but then life happened - found a good job, got married, got dogs, bought a house, had a kid. I've put my roots down and home is here now. I often get asked if I'm planning to move back to my home country, especially since it's a much more family-friendly environment and work-life balance is better than in the UK. I always love going back home but I can't imagine living there permanently at this stage in life. It's just a bit too quiet and homogenous. The job market there isn't great at the moment, especially for people like my husband, who doesn't speak the language. At least in the UK we're equals when it comes to language and job opportunities. I know we all like slagging off the UK but there are so many positives and so much diversity with people, nature, ways of living.
w1ckedw1ckedw1cked@reddit
My career would not start at the same level if I moved to another country - if I could move and be on the same salary I would move tomorrow.
AutomaticInitiative@reddit
Combination of the culture, having so much history and things to do and see on my doorstep, but also am 37 and unskilled worker and too poor to buy visas lmao
Yeanes@reddit
Many more work opportunities and varied workload - and yes, even outside London. In my country if you didn't study STEM, law, medicine you're essentially told you're worthless. In the UK it is possible to find a good job based on skills you've acquired throughout your career, even if you do not have the degree on it.
I think UK work culture is miles better than many other European countries. People care about work life balance, they care about well-being and how to treat people well. Not everywhere, of course, and there are always very cutthroat industries, but in general I still find this to be true. For example in my home country women working in private industries or firms are pressured into dressing a certain way or wearing make up. This isn't the case in the UK.
Dull_Hawk9416@reddit
My partner who is British does not want to live in my home country (South Africa) or my second choice Portugal. What can I say, I love the asshat
SnooMacarons9618@reddit
I had a chance to move to the US about 10 years ago, which seemed exciting,but when my wife and I sat and actually thought through it... we realised how much we both absolutely love this country. I mean, we both always knew we loved the country, but thinking of moving just made it more so.
Never too hot or cold (or maybe for a few days a year), history, lots of very interesting places easy to reach, Family and friends. Easy and cheap access to mainland Europe. It really is a green and pleasant land.
cbawiththismalarky@reddit
I like it here, I've lived in a few european countries and the US, and i just in the end prefer it here
Top_Country4497@reddit
I am not actually from UK but I live here, having lived in several other countries. Sometimes I moan about it, but mostly the weather!
Plus points: * The NHS - honestly when you're from somewhere that doesn't have this access to care, it blows your mind. Yes, it has issues and yes, it needs saving. I still can't believe it costs me nothing to go to the doctor. * Music scene - few places can top UK cities for the abundance of quality live music (people can argue about other places, it's still excellent in the cities here, which can all be reached by public transport) * Transport - there are cheap buses to almost every city. Sure the trains cost too much, but if you can travel off peak and are flexible, you can get a lot of places. Again, not France, but not bad. * Nature - beautiful parks and hiking, usually less than an hour from the city. Go further for even more beauty. * Gregg's. Need I say more? * Timpson's. Same. * Sense of humour. It's just a fact that people from the British Isles have a genuine sense of humour, it can be dark; it's often dry and witty. * Freedom of speech - don't knock it.
Rhubarb-Eater@reddit
During the first wave of Covid, I had to tell a man over the phone that his father was dying. The man lived abroad in SE Asia. It was very early lockdown, there were no flights going, and a two week quarantine when you did arrive. There was no way that poor man was going to see his father again, but even worse, it would be weeks before he could comfort his elderly mother. I realised I was already too far from my family to be able to come home at the drop of a hat (opposite end of the UK), and decided then and there to move closer. I now live 2-3 hours from them and it is much better. All my colleagues moved to Australia but it’s just too far for me - even though I left home the moment I could!
Revolutionary_West56@reddit
Same reasons for me. I used to be really negative about living here, then when I travelled to places without the same history, architecture, and culture I realised how much I missed it and now I feel so lucky
EatingCoooolo@reddit
My plan is to work for an international company that would allow me to work from abroad or go live in another country.
I’d come and live in the UK for summer and work from abroad the other seasons.
garlicandherbsauce@reddit
my sister and my nephews.
DameKumquat@reddit
I have lived in various other countries. If the dot-com crash hadn't happened in 2001, I might still be living in San Diego. I wouldn't mind living in various European countries, preferably ones where I speak the language or at least can reading while people speak English at me; wouldn't want to be in the Middle East.
But I've ended up buying a house here, the spouse has a good job, had kids here - and London is a pretty good place to live if you aren't renting (we bought a big house which needed a lot of work, then we've fixed the key bits but never been able to afford to decorate). Back in the 90s, being queer-friendly was a reason to move to London and stay, but the theatre, museums, public transport, and mostly reasonable climate are all great. Political stuff better than many countries. And most importantly, becoming an expat and then immigrating is hard work, trying to learn a new culture. Don't want to do it again.
LowarnFox@reddit
I could probably move abroad if I wanted to- I know people with my job who've moved internationally- some of them have come back. However, I don't want to be a long haul flight away from my family, and I don't think I want to live somewhere without English as the main language- I'm not great at learning languages at all. I can have the lifestyle I want in the UK at the moment.
I wouldn't live somewhere like Dubai- I really wouldn't want to live somewhere where there was *so* much exploitation going on. And obviously at the moment, the UAE etc really aren't that safe.
I also do think there are potential issues in Austrailia and New Zeeland that the current conflict is showing up- their issues with fuel seem to be even worse than ours right now. I also do like that in the UK, there are so many places that are all pretty close together- I wouldn't want to live out in the middle of nowhere in Austrailia, for example.
I don't think Britain is that great, but it is basically "fine" at the moment, and I don't have any major push factors to leave.
Jimmy90081@reddit
This is asked so…. Many… times.
RobintehBobin@reddit (OP)
And? There'll be different people answering every time.
Jimmy90081@reddit
Averages out it will be the same slop as the last 50 time. Why not just search and read some of those mostly similar posts, and skip adding more dross?
Let me guess, you want to ask what people would do if they won the lottery and why we have reduced shop opening times on Sundays. Boring.
RobintehBobin@reddit (OP)
That's a shame. I'll enjoy reading the replies to this post, and I don't really care that Jimmy90081 is annoyed, nor do I care if he downvotes me and I lose internet points. Have a great day :)
Jimmy90081@reddit
It’s fine. Yours can be one of the many posts that get locked soon because it’s so similar to the others. You also sir.
Winston_Carbuncle@reddit
The family dog is here
gibberishnope@reddit
I quite like where I live, northern town. it’s not a high socioeconomic area, but I can afford a three bedroom house with a garden, and im so close to such beauty and I’m less than two hours driving distance from several cities .
jack5624@reddit
I feel more at home in the UK than anywhere else. There is also a language and cultural barrier to moving. Additionally I’m not sure what the upside is to moving, the UK has its problems but so do many other countries.
I have thought about moving countries but the only place I seriously considered is Ireland.
Flicker-form-5192@reddit
The things you said are the reasons I wanted for years to find a way to live there. And being a flight away from so many places. Everyplace has its bad things, and there's a lot to consider beyond romanticized ideas, but I'd treasure that deeply. If I could find a way to contribute in a way your society could really benefit from having me live there, I would be there.
Necessary_Money_9757@reddit
There's the obvious thing that all my family live here, and domestic travel is much easier than international travel despite what people who always go abroad say.
Moving to Europe would be fun but also tough because realistically you need to learn the language. There are some countries where you can manage with just English, but in most countries you really do need some local language knowledge.
Other Anglosphere countries are just so far away.
But also, some things are just nicer in the UK. We have bright green countryside, and everything looks nice. Even silly things like the packaging on food and drink looks nicer in the UK.
If I could choose to have been born in a different country, I think I'd still choose the UK.
Jasp1971@reddit
It's my home.
perishingtardis@reddit
My house is here.
Fellsy8@reddit
I'm in the East Midlands too, on the borders of South Yorkshire, and love exactly the same things that you have stated.
No other country really appeals to me at all, though I do love Ireland.
RobintehBobin@reddit (OP)
Rural Ireland is a place I definitely want to visit in the next couple of years. I'm a big motorsport guy, so going over when there's a rally event on and then doing some hiking for a week or so would be the dream!
I'm in North-West Leicestershire (just on the border of Derbyshire), so Yorkshire is a bit more of a trek for me, but a beautiful area of the world.
OtherInspector2702@reddit
The proximity to Europe for travel - a 2 hr flight rather than a 9 hr one. That's basically it.
Party_Advantage_3733@reddit
I can think of at least 44 countries closer to Europe than the UK. Why not move to one of those?
OtherInspector2702@reddit
Because I have no right of abode in most of them. The one I do is a 9 hr flight.
Party_Advantage_3733@reddit
Ah, I guess I interpreted OPs question a bit differently to you. Like if you have enough money or certain careers you could easily gain the right to live anywhere.
CatBroiler@reddit
I tried living in my ancestral home country for about a year after graduating compulsory education here, and while I could probably earn more there and public services are in much better nick, the UK just suits me more.
Better work/life balance, car ownership is cheap (important as I'm into cars), and I earn enough to have what I want to a decent degree without too much responsibility or stress.
MatooMan@reddit
I've thought of TEFLing in SE Asia but I would likely miss:
- drinkable tap water (Scotland)
- social security system and free healthcare if needed
- weather that lacks extremes (tornadoes, monsoons etc pass us by)
That's about it really.
Working abroad means being chained to your employer for visa purposes, and it would be quite a bit hotter which can be a problem for me at home with Scottish summers getting.
I'm still thinking about it, as the wage stagnation and higher cost of living compared to other parts of the world does make going abroad an attractive proposition.
Hefty_Tip7383@reddit
There is nowhere better to be than in a UK beer garden on a sunny day - we are all so grateful for it.
Top-Significance8791@reddit
It’s a bit shit but it’s my home.
I’m in Japan at the moment and while it’s a great country and I’m having a lovely time I still just can’t wait to come back
feetflatontheground@reddit
inertia
Intrepid_Bearz@reddit
I could have left for Australia after living there for a bit and having a sponsor lined up, but everything there was out to kill you, here there’s like a pair of adders somewhere and otherwise we’re good.
CarthageCabbage@reddit
Saw one of the adders last week and he said that they’ve unfortunately separated but that it was on good terms.
YouSayWotNow@reddit
Family and friends, National Health Service (though we have many who are keen to dismantle it in favour of profit-making private health, so we really need to appreciate and fight for it, even when it's not perfect).
And honestly, things are neither better nor worse in some of the other places in the world I might be interested in moving to, or even if they are, at my age and with my skills/ health, it wouldn't be straightforward to get resident status anyway!
RobintehBobin@reddit (OP)
Exactly. There isn't a developed country in the world where a proportion of residents aren't wanting to leave, and yes that includes all the places we like to idealise as Brits. The way I see it - if I want to move country, I'll consider why that place is specifically better for me. For example, if I had an option to have a specific job or living circumstance that wouldn't be as possible over here.
For the most part, the places that people in the UK are always on about wanting to move to (Australia, Italy, France, Dubai, USA, Spain, Bali, NZ etc etc etc), are more suited to certain people with specific needs and wants. Nothing wrong with going somewhere that suits your personal needs and wants; I think the mistake people make is thinking that those countries are "objectively better overall". Which is just categorically untrue.
YouSayWotNow@reddit
I think a LOT of people confuse what it's like to be on holiday somewhere with what it might be like to live there. There are many places I ADORE travelling to as a visitor but which I would hate to live in because of stronger racism, or cultural / societal norms that simply don't mesh with who I am or how I live.
Sorry_Astronaut@reddit
My parents are here. If they weren’t, I wouldn’t be either. Annoyingly, I really bloody like them
Soniq268@reddit
I did live somewhere else, Singapore then Australia for about 17 years in total, came back to the uk in 2021 (wanted out of Oz after 2 years of Covid lockdown), I always planned to come to the UK, reset, spend time with family and go off on my next adventure.
Met my now wife 2 weeks after I got back, shes much more of a homebody than I am so we’re still here, I’d move again if the right career opportunity came up but given the utter hellscape we’re currently living in, the UK seems like a fairly safe bet for now.
PARFT@reddit
because everywhere else is shit.
Shep_vas_Normandy@reddit
I’ve lived in the UK for four years and I love the history. I love that there are still so many places that haven’t lost the English history and charm and yet I don’t need to own a car to get to where I have to go. And I feel when I go to visit where I an originally from I begin to miss London.
RobintehBobin@reddit (OP)
Not a Londoner myself, but I love the place (have visited maybe 50 times over my 23 years on this planet). I've been to Paris, NYC and plenty of other "destination cities", and nowhere really appeals to me like London does. The art, culture, food, music scene, constant activities going on, architecture - I love it all.
More-Soil7455@reddit
I’m from the USA. I’ve lived all over the US and have traveled to many other countries. I vacation in the UK and would love to live there permanently someday. The UK just feels like home to me. A green and pleasant place.
JudgePrestigious5295@reddit
I've lived in other countries as bad as things are here, were in a pretty goof place compared to most other countries.
Real_Science_5851@reddit
Well, I think it's the best Western country to live in : )))))
Astronaut_Level@reddit
Compared to the country I’m from, this is what sets the UK apart:
Transparent systems. Less bureaucratic and more accessible services. Things tend to ‘make sense’ (of course, there are exceptions to this). You get reminders to pay for things or get processes explained to you if you’re struggling.
Protection. There are some ways to challenge discrimination or complain about a bad service. Again, this is not working perfectly but compared to the, for example the homophobia of my country of origin we have it good in the UK.
Healthcare. Not perfect, but it is free. Free dental care for under 18s - amazing.
Job opportunities. I work in the non profit sector and I couldn’t have the same career back home as in the UK.
Diversity. I live in Birmingham and I appreciate the opportunity to interact with people from all backgrounds. The country where I’m from is very homogeneous.
Economy. Yes, it’s getting worse. Yes, the buying power of the pound and the salary to expenses ratio is still decent, compared to the rest of the world.
CMF1_hacker_2@reddit
The Golden Triangle is great for employment opportunities for those in STEM. Best in Europe by miles.
MajorTurbo@reddit
Because it is still one of the best places for my kids to get an education.
wearezombie@reddit
I studied abroad in Japan and had every intention of going back the second I graduated and was actively doing job interviews. Then my dad got sick and I was devastated even though he was only in the hospital for 2 days. I realised I genuinely couldn’t bear it if anything happened when I was out there and I couldn’t fly back at the drop of a hat - which I couldn’t, it was so far away it would need a day’s travel and probably a grand in flights - so I’d prefer to be close to my family.
No-Parsnip563@reddit
I can’t move as I’m 19, and aside from uni abroad which I’d hate it would be very difficult for me to leave the UK. That said, aside from maybe Ireland, I wouldn’t leave. Partly that the grass is always greener and any reason to leave here would inevitably crop up somewhere else. But mostly because I’m comfortable here: I know the language, the culture, the food… I love travelling but a whole new country IS a culture shock and I don’t think there’s so much wrong with the UK to fully adapt to a whole new place.
SifuWong99@reddit
I love being close to the West End, my only other option is New York but I really really really don't want to end up in the US. So I'm gonna be here until my ethnicity causes me significant problems. Hopefully it isn't anytime soon, but you know.
Localone2412@reddit
Ive been living overseas for 15 years and we are heading back for personal reasons but honestly, we’re excited. To be close to our family, to speak our language again, the Britishness of everything. Oh yeah and a good curry and fish and chips !!
eyesonly456@reddit
I've lived abroad twice but home is home
HotelPuzzleheaded654@reddit
Definitely, I think it’s easy to romanticise the idea of living abroad, but the reality of living somewhere is very different to travelling.
Every place has it faults, I actually love the UK despite them.
breadandbutter123456@reddit
I’ve lived in China and in Thailand. If I could earn what I did in China but live in Thailand I would.
Came back to the uk because living in China was ok but not great. Living in Thailand was great but we couldn’t earn the money we wanted to live the lifestyle we wanted.
zephyrmox@reddit
Primarily because my friends are here. If I didn't have those ties I'd be much more tempted, though my jobs will be in global cities so it won't change that much.
da-happy-cyclops@reddit
The best thing about being from the UK is the constant barrage of Russian/Isreali/Chinese/North Korean troll posts on every UK related media space.
The worst part about being from the UK is none of my family members fall out of windows when I criticise my government.
MidnightFalcon89@reddit
thewanderingidiot62@reddit
I recently moved home from living abroad. Home has friends, family, a culture I identify with and enjoy, endless social sports to play in as adults, incredibly nature, easy to travel around, decent work life balance, good healthcare, great grocery prices to salary ratio, but most importantly - home is home.
Sea_Director_4439@reddit
I'm too old to start a new life elsewhere
Inside-Judgment6233@reddit
I love my home
Educational_Cow111@reddit
Because I love it here
ExultentPisces@reddit
All my stuff is here.
linuxrogue@reddit
Bake him away toys!
Spiritual-Fondant656@reddit
I'm still here because my offspring are of an age where they're technically adults but still not 100% independent.
Once we reach that point I'll head to warmer climes - Spain or Greece because there would be less of a language barrier for me in both places. More research required though!
Elster-@reddit
Family reasons only.
If my wife’s parents moved we would move.
We moved back to the UK full time 2 years ago.
GloomySwitch6297@reddit
moved to UK xx years ago.
If I would move now, that means a 2nd "total reset" of my life. I am too old for this.
And yes, UK is a very sad place to live. I've made a mistake many years ago when I should have move out. I didn't. I was hoping it will get better. it is only getting worse.
If I will be placed against the wall, I will move out.
DrPixelFace@reddit
Sunken cost fallacy
AltruisticLow3580@reddit
Portugal Algarve. Friendly people and beautiful weather.
Top-Background-7305@reddit
Because no matter where else I could go, nowhere else feels like home in the quiet, familiar way this place does.
Creative-Tea581@reddit
Because the UK is one of those places you only fully appreciate when you leave it. It’s not perfect but the history, the humour, the convenience, and the quiet beauty of everyday life here are hard to replace once they’re gone
AdhesivenessGlum1143@reddit
I am German and could move back to Germany. My husband is also German so that would not be an issue. However, I like my job here and we have now bought a house. I also moved here when I was 14 and now prefer the culture. I think it is relatively easy to make friends here as British people are friendlier than Germans. I also now find German directness a bit jarring.
However, if the economic situation gets much worse or my husband or I get a compelling job offer, we could likely be convinced to move. Additionally, German tax law and family benefits are more advantageous to married people and people with children so we may move for these reasons as well once we have a family.
scrotalsac69@reddit
I like it here, been to quite a few other countries but I prefer this one
Spicymargx@reddit
I love my friends who all live in the UK. I would hate to live in Australia or America. I work in a field that requires me to have excellent written and verbal English skills and don’t speak any other language fluently enough to do the job in a non-English speaking country. I also have a staffy which are banned in many countries.
SatisfactionLoud2683@reddit
The 'could' is heavily influenced by my wife. We could walk into Australia. I'd personally try and get into somewhere like Malaysia.
Mike_Mac72@reddit
It’s my home.
McFigroll@reddit
it might just be the language for me at this point.
filipha@reddit
Good job, decent schools, pretty stable country/politics. We live in London and aren't really keen on countryside (tried it, hated it).
ApprehensiveKey1469@reddit
Money.
Impossible_Deal_4086@reddit
I'm spending a couple more years here for my partner career then I will move to Spain.
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