How common is it in the USA for people to wear pants that end above the ankles?

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Manderthal13@reddit

We used to call those 'high water pants' and ask the wearer if they were expecting a flood.

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FoxtrotSierraTango@reddit

Here's a perfect example: https://youtu.be/M67E9mpwBpM

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AtTheRealFuture@reddit

My feet are soaking but my cuffs are bone dry!

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The question is the association of longer pant length and pride. Personally, I cannot connect the two. It could easily be argued the other way: Pants are there to provide protection to the legs. Therefore, any length that does not provide complete protection are designed more for fashion vs function. And doing something specifically for fashion could be defined as proudful.

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macoafi@reddit

It comes from a time when most of the cost of a garment was in the fabric, not the labor, so anything that used more fabric was a display of wealth.

We have this idea that because the Victorians were opposed to visible ankles, that made you a hussy for all time before that too in Western fashion, but it’s actually very Victorian. If you go back to the Renaissance, floor length gowns were for rich women who could afford an extra half yard of fabric. (And then imagine a train, adding an extra entire yard???) If all you could afford was a dress that landed 9 inches off the floor, well, that’s how your new dresses would be (but you might also be doing some second hand shopping).

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AwarenessGreat282@reddit

Don't doubt it but nothing to do with my point. We're not talking robes, gowns, or dresses, but pants.

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macoafi@reddit

Are pants not made of fabric?

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megamonster88@reddit

Extremely common for women, less common for men. Men wear shorts often but usually not cropped pants.

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MissFabulina@reddit

I have seen lots of "shorts" for men that are the length of culottes, pedal pushers, ankle length, pants etc. I do not understand how these are even called "shorts," and they definitely are not worn for religious reasons, but they are worn.

Also, OP, there may be religious grpups who wear all sorts of different things because of their religious beliefs. But, the US is a secular country. And we are populated with people from probably every religion. There are no such rules that apply to all Americans. People tend to decide what to wear based on fashion or comfort or some other personal preference.

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Otherwisefantastic@reddit

My husband used to wear those long "shorts" and I tease him by telling him they were capris lol

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sabatoa@reddit

I call them manpris

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CollectionStraight2@reddit

I like them.. they give a man a nice piratical air

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SnooChipmunks2079@reddit

They are but in menswear they seem to be called messenger shorts- like practical for bike messengers.

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MissFabulina@reddit

If they come to your ankles, or even anywhere past your knees, they aren't shorts anymore. They are capris, or pedal pushers, or cropped/ankle length pants.

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GradStudent_Helper@reddit

Or "Jams"

-- GenXer

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NeonPlutonium@reddit

Clamdiggers

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MissFabulina@reddit

I haven't heard that gem in decades. Love it! And yep, they make men's "shorts" in that length, too!

Like, somehow, it is effeminate to wear pants that are short, but shorts that are waaaaaay too long and have legs as wide as palazzo pants are somehow masculine.

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hypo-osmotic@reddit

Yeah the word seems to be used more for proportion rather than length. You can turn "pants" into "shorts" without actually making them any shorter by making the wider instead

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Adorable_Dust3799@reddit

My son had no butt and his jeans at age 4 were his shorts at age 8.

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JustHere4TheZipLines@reddit

Men wear those joggers with elastic at the bottom, they end just above the ankle. Definitely not capris, but not long either.

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Disastrous-Cat2840@reddit

Those are pretty out of style at this point though. I haven't seen them hardly at all for several years now.

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HabitNegative3137@reddit

Right, maybe this is a regional thing? Not just joggers, but also slacks that end above the ankle and worn with loafers is an extremely common look for men in the city I live in.

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Tooch10@reddit

Going to Europe and seeing men in capris with over-the-shoulder small bags is unusual and not something you'd see here

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Rays-R-Us@reddit

Hand me downs from a taller brother

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Quick-Ostrich2020@reddit

But having nothing to do with religion.

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dangered@reddit

It has everything to do with pride and status.

A Saudi prince crashed his modest Lamborghini last week because he couldn’t keep his eyes off my luxurious parachute pants.

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CaptainPunisher@reddit

Did Fry win you those parachute pants with a septuple head spin?

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CubicleHermit@reddit

That's like capris, which are mid calf.

The difference between breaking on top of the shoe (where dress pants are supposed to) and just above the ankle is noise.

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kelsmania@reddit

Cropped pants and culottes are currently more fashionable than capris, and fit the description.

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CubicleHermit@reddit

Culottes I thought referred to a style and not just the length (and not always that much longer than capris, or for dudes, bermudas, no?)

"Cropped pants" as a category and not just a description is new to me, but a quick google shows them on sale for men as well, and yeah, pretty much exactly what OP showed in his picture.

Although how that differs from just buying shorter than one's usual inseam, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - if you usually bought 34x34, just by the 34x30 and you've got the same effect. Meanwhile, some of us have hobbit legs and can't buy pants off the rack without hemming them to begin win.

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kelsmania@reddit

I’m speaking for women’s clothes specifically. Culottes usually fall between the knee and ankle, and are wider. Capris fall just below the knee and are usually straight cut. There are also jogger style pants, pegged pants, gaucho pants etc. And yes I’d categorize it all as cropped. Capris are just a really specific type of cropped pants that gives me nightmare flashbacks to my youth 😂

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worety@reddit

Very common in NYC summer for men to cuff pants.

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Onechrisn@reddit

You will likely want longer pants when you are in colder climates.

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redvinebitty@reddit

Depends on the decade

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Ok_Organization_7350@reddit

Women wear these above-ankle pants in the US in warm climates and in the summer. They are called capri pants, and are considered fashionable.

Men do not wear capri pants here. That is considered a women's only fashion. Men who wear above ankle pants will look very strange.

The Bible verse mentioning long robes does not equate to a requirement to wear ankle pants. That was referring to men who wear flamboyant colorful expensive robes to show off wealth and status. The lesson is to not show off and be prideful of status.

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Fire_Mission@reddit

Not very common. Not linked to any religious beliefs, just fashion.

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slonermike@reddit

Can’t speak for the Muslim side of it, but as for Jesus: Luke 20:46 isn’t about clothing. He’s dunking on a specific religious group of the time who were known for belittling others and puffing themselves up.

“Beware of the scribes, who like to walk around in long robes, and love greetings in the marketplaces and the best seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at feasts, who devour widows’ houses and for a pretense make long prayers. They will receive the greater condemnation.”

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HabitNegative3137@reddit

I’d disagree. Slacks that end above the ankle and joggers with the elastic bands are both extremely common in Georgia. But that has nothing to do with religious reasons.

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tetrasodium@reddit

Can't say that I've noticed it being all that common for guys but wouldn't think anything of it if a guy did wear pants like that unless they were jarring out of place like elastic leg sweatpants with a suit and tie

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qu33nof5pad35@reddit

Pretty common for fashion purposes.

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rohan_rat@reddit

I know three types of men: Those who wear pants when it's cold and shorts when it's hot, those who wear pants when it's cold and pants when it's hot, and those who wear shorts when it's cold and shorts when it's hot.

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Travelsat150@reddit

The length of one’s clothing is dictated by fashion trends. There are no religious views here regarding pants length.

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Salty_Permit4437@reddit

There are plenty of religious views that frown on short skirts and tight pants.

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Possible_Move7894@reddit

I think that's more religious people having those views, not necessarily a religious view

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Salty_Permit4437@reddit

Religions are the people.

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BilingSmob444@reddit

You get the difference though, right? Christian teachings say help the stranger and feed the poor; Christian people sometimes don’t like violent video games.

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DimbyTime@reddit

The Christian bible also encourages modest dressing

Timothy 2:9: I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes

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LifeApprehensive2818@reddit

IIRC, at least some sects of the LDS have relatively strict modesty standards.

Beyond that, it gets complicated. A number of the major denominations in the US, particularly the evangelicals and close relatives, are highly decentralized, so you can get very different opinions between parishes. The denomination as a whole may not hold a unified view on modesty, but the denomination as a whole may not hold a unified view on anything beyond the most basic theology.

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Travelsat150@reddit

We are talking about pant lengths for men here.

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Salty_Permit4437@reddit

Men can typically wear whatever they want in most religions.

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Equivalent-Cicada165@reddit

Yeah, but that applies to women

Our bodies are sin or whatever

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justdisa@reddit

And climate. The outfit OP linked is not practical in many parts of the US for much of the year.

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SnooChipmunks2079@reddit

I’m sure there are some groups with religious beliefs that impact pants length - recent middle eastern immigrants if nothing else - but there’s certainly no group that it’s common enough that we all know about it.

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Travelsat150@reddit

For sure, but those are individuals following their religious dictates. I see women wearing their hair covered, long skirts, men with kippot. But society itself doesn’t dictate shorter pants because of some religious concept.

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MissDisplaced@reddit

Purely fashion trends and personal preference unless one belongs to or adheres to a specific religion that forbids it.

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embarrassedalien@reddit

Or for utility purposes

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Frosty_Employment171@reddit

We hope that's true.

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Technical-Sector407@reddit

Only left handed people from the south do it. Everyone knows that.

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LSBm5@reddit

Men who wear pants over the ankles are how we tell you are European.

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Suppafly@reddit

Not common for men at all.

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Drew707@reddit

I grew up in a (mostly western) equestrian family. You would intentionally buy longer jeans so they would "stack" on your boots. This was because they would ride up in a riding position, but you wanted your boots covered to prevent trail debris from getting into them.

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Craigh-na-Dun@reddit

Women: ankle pants stylish Men: high water pants not so much

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FireHammer09@reddit

For non-fitness wear very rarely. Maybe one of those guys who wear fashion suits

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frisky_husky@reddit

Huh, I never knew this. Actually explains a lot about the fashion choices of some guys I've known who grew up in Muslim-majority countries.

Only a minority of unusually religious Americans observe any kind of religious dress codes. You generally wouldn't be able to tell someone's religion or level of observance in the US by what they're wearing. Some more religious people might choose to buy less revealing clothes, but they generally shop at the same stores as everybody else, so the garments themselves generally aren't anything different from what a non-religious person would wear. The only common exception is usually jewelry and headwear. A lot of people (even those who aren't that religious) will have jewelry with some kind of religious iconography, like a cross necklace for a Christian, or a hamsa necklace for Jews and Muslims (and some Middle Eastern Christians).

Almost universally, clothing style is one of the first things that changes when people move to a new cultural setting. Immigrants might continue to dress the way they did back home, but unless it's an unusually insular community, their kids who grow up in the new country will generally want to fit in with their classmates at school.

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Ok-Possibility-9826@reddit

I don’t think it’s a religious thing, it’s just kinda rare that you’ll see men wearing them. As a woman, I don’t love capris, but that’s more of a personal taste thing.

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SherifneverShot@reddit

When the Somalis first arrived in my area, the pant length is how we could tell where they were from before even looking at anything else. Over the last ten years or so they started having their pants hemmed to a typical American length so now it is rare.

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Raibean@reddit

Those aren’t pants; those are capris.

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One-Hand-Rending@reddit

The stupidity of religion never ceases to amaze me. Imagine thinking an omnipotent deity cares about your pants?

Nobody is mocking anyone over pants dude.

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Illustrious_Code_347@reddit

For men, not common at all. Unless we're talking about shorts — shorts are different. But full-length pants should not show your ankles as a man, and you may even be made fun of and called gay or people may say you are wearing capris, which are a type of pants for women.

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Low-Engineering-7374@reddit

Where I'm fromin upper New England I was made fun of for it (I didn't do it for fashion I just need a longer inseam than most women's pants), but now that I'm on the west coast it's very much the fashion trend for men and women here

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sean8877@reddit

For a male you're friends might joke around and you and say you are wearing Capris. Women can wear pretty much anything above the ankle and not have an issue.

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DrBlankslate@reddit

Unless you're in the fashion industry, literally nobody would notice or care. This is not a thing in the US.

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tcspears@reddit

I think the comment in the Bible is about wearing prideful clothes that show off, it’s not specifically saying that long clothing is bad. That said, the US is not a Christian country, so that doesn’t have much bearing anyways.

It’s very common for women to wear pants that stop above the ankle, but far less common for men. You do see some summer outfits, where men wear pants that are tailored a bit higher, but it’s not something you commonly see. We do have representation from every culture here though, so you will see a wide variety of styles, and may see Muslim men wearing pants like this. I don’t believe anyone would find it especially strange or comment on it though.

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S5Cook@reddit

I was raised to believe that a man should never wear short pants.

I'm not sure if it had a religious countation, That showing one's legs lacks modesty.

Or if it was part of an officer's uniform, That an officer should never be seen that far out of uniform That even casual dress has a certain "starch" to it. I noticed this obliquely refer to in n episode of the sopranos. Apparently the capo does not wear short pants.

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rockninja2@reddit

Shorts technically are pants that end above the ankle. In summer and warm weather locations, shorts are very popular. No religiosity behind wearing them (or not wearing them), though.

Cargo short and baggy shorts are also sometimes worn which can be a big longer, but still shorter than jeans or other "long" pants. Up to each individual person and their style choices (and work or school dress code)

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embarrassedalien@reddit

I guess I’ve been calling those really long cargo shorts capris.

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rockninja2@reddit

I am no fashionista, so I don't know if they have an actual name other than a type of cargo shorts, they indeed be capris, I will have to look that up when I get a chance

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embarrassedalien@reddit

I’m thinking of something like these https://amazon.com/dp/B0CFX9QS1D they’re like shorts, but they’re long!

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rockninja2@reddit

"Capri cargo pants hiking shorts"

Sounds about right. Lol

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GreenBeanTM@reddit

Capris were popular a couple of decades ago and still are with some older gen women, but for younger generations the answer is no.

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MyUsername2459@reddit

Nobody really cares about the hem of your pants.

Pants like you describe are more common with women, but I wouldn't imagine anyone saying anything to a man wearing pants like that.

Cultural practices around clothing in the US are not driven by religion.

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Puzzleheaded_Math973@reddit

Unless you are apostolic or Amish.

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jackneefus@reddit

I don't think anyone wears shorter pants for the reasons you gave. Humility and pride are not associated with inseam length.

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NotAnyOneYouKnow2019@reddit

Only grrls.

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Tricky_Jellyfish9116@reddit

Regarding Luke 20:46, the original Greek does use a word that usually means "long." Some English versions translate it as "flowing." This is generally interpreted to mean it's not good to wear "clothing that is ostentatious" or "clothing that calls attention to one's status," rather than strictly long clothing on men. It's a verse about scribes, who had one of the few non-labor jobs in the culture, so they didn't have to be dressed for physical labor.

This encouragement to dress simply is supported by other verses about modesty in dress. I Timothy instructs women to dress respectably, but not in "costly attire." James 2 tells church members not to show greater honor to someone in "fine clothes" than they do to someone dressed poorly.

Most kinds of Christians apply this as a general principle and not a specific rule about trouser (or robe) length. In the USA, covering your ankles or not wouldn't determine whether one's clothing would be ostentatious/too attention-grabbing, so that wouldn't matter.

This kind of dress choice is generally considered something you do out of an internal conviction of humility/modesty, not as a public display or standard of virtue. There are certain Christian groups that make specific rules about dress (Amish, Mennonites, and other anabaptist groups, along with certain types of fundamentalist and Pentecostal/charismatic groups do have specific dress standards, which can apply all the time or just for worship. For men, this might include long pants--no shorts--and a shirt with a collar and tie), but those groups are generally considered a bit odd.

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Snookfilet@reddit

You never really see men wear pants like that. Women wear them, I think they call them Capris pants.

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ImaginaryAd6339@reddit

If I'm wearing pants, but not working I'll often roll them up to mid calf. Especially if I've got sandles on.

People just haven't realized how cool I am yet

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yourlittlebirdie@reddit

Capris, pedal pushers, clam diggers. They were made fashionable by Audrey Hepburn back in the day.

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beaniesandbuds@reddit

High-Waters in my part of the USA lol

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TeacherOfFew@reddit

Typically only for men in most of the country. I've never heard that for women.

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LineRex@reddit

Super common. Actually, I think most people's pants end above their ankles lol. Capris, which end at the shin, are popular with women.

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VxGB111@reddit

Um, no. We dont have that. We just wear whatever we want.

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porcelaincatstatue@reddit

Everyone already filled you in that most fashion isn't dictated by religion here. I'm just chiming in to say I'm wearing cropped pants now. I hate my pants touching the tops of my feet.

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cheesesteakhellscape@reddit

Only a very small minority of Americans dress to religious conventions - and of that population only a tiny percentage of them would be aware of the passages you mention.

In a lot of large cities it's not terribly uncommon to see Muslim men dressed in Islamic robes. Where I am many of these men are Nation of Islam and not traditional Muslims, but nevertheless they dress like that.

Women in the US wear pants with literally any hemline. We have pants that are cut like underwear and pants that drag on the floor in puddles. All of them are considered more or less "normal." Ankle pants are in style and they're regularly worn.

The only "normal" style of men's pants cut above the ankle are joggers, but a man can get away with ankle cut pants if they appear intentional and nobody will really care or notice.

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_Xero2Hero_@reddit

I don't think the verse OP mentioned would really matter anyway. If you take a very literal interpretation that wouldnt affect the average person. No one wears a robe, and being against dressing to appear holier than thou wouldn't just affect your clothes but also your actions.

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SmoovCatto@reddit

urban hipster high fashion now -- exposed ankle loose trouser length for men -- like in 1970s Jamaican film *The Harder They Come" --

but still considered weird and wrong by most

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49JC@reddit

Not at all. No one will really even notice. Some of my jeans end below the ankle, others at the ankle. Also, as a christian, that verse is not Jesus forbidding people to wear robes, it is about being careful for scribes and pharisees who elevated their status while they were truly liars and lovers of money.

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ElrondTheHater@reddit

Cropped pants like this are common for women but cycle in and out of style for men. Because of this, a man wearing these types of pants is going to be considered "fashion forward", and because of that, maybe a bit effeminate, and might get some teasing. However people would be less likely to comment on it if you were otherwise dressed "ethnically" (aka not wearing obviously Western European clothing)

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an_edgy_lemon@reddit

Not super common, especially at the moment. Cropped pants were kind of trendy for men at some points over the last decade, but they have mostly fallen out of fashion. I still like them, personally.

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dazzleox@reddit

Luke 20:46-47 is not about fashion (everyone wore long robes then) but a moral lesson against preachers who would remove themselves from the daily life of the common people for attention and status; and even exploiting widows while feigning piety since as scribes they were literate while others had to rely on them.

Anyway, that said, I am not aware of any Christian sects in the United States, even more obscure ones, who have a religious opinion about the length of men's pants. The most simple dressed people I can imagine, the Amish (who forego zippers, bright colors, etc.) still wear long pants.

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rebirf@reddit

Women all the time, men some of the time. I myself like a nice pair of chino joggers with sneakers. People in the US will wear pretty much anything depending where you are in the country. It's gonna be less common in the country where dudes wanna look tougher.

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CousinBarnabas1967@reddit

Are you going to Johnstown? Pants that show any ankle on a man are called flood pants. (Johnstown is a city in the state of Pennsylvania that is prone to flooding)

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macoafi@reddit

“Prone to flooding” they say…

And the entire state is still paying that Johnstown Flood Tax on alcohol.

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penguinwasteland1414@reddit

I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who gets your reference to Johnstown.

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Waisted-Desert@reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/OUTFITS/comments/15gunmy/are_high_waters_out_of_style_or_something_cos_ive/

We called them "highwater" pants, as in you could walk through a flood of high water and not get your pants wet. Growing up it was an indication that your family could not afford to keep buying new clothes as you got taller in your adolescence, and you would get mocked mercilessly for this.

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StardogChamp@reddit

This are called capris. In America women and gay men wear them. In Europe all men wear them.

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trench_welfare@reddit

If you're in y'all qaeda country, it's gay, anywhere else I don't think the average American would have a strong opinion one way or another.

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cheesesteakhellscape@reddit

Capris end just below at the knee. Pants cut just above the ankle are called ankle pants/ankle cut.

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Ouisch@reddit

When I was in high school if a guy wore pants (not shorts) above the ankles he'd immediately be asked "Are you expecting a flood?"

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Danibear285@reddit

We’re not Muslim so no lmaooo

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Substantial_Arm_6903@reddit

Most of the aging millennials (one time hipsters) in my trendy east coast neighborhood wear ankle pants, personally I hate it most of the time and think a slight break looks better unless you are going for Italian summer-casual which they are not.

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EulerIdentity@reddit

Men sometimes wear pants (“trousers” in the UK) that end above the ankles, but for esthetic or practical reasons, not religious ones. Religion never enters their thinking on that question and I would guess about 98% of American men assume that God doesn’t care at all about the length of their pants.

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Ludwigthemadking@reddit

A lot of men wear shorts - even when it's cold! But these pants are generally called "high waters" and they are out of fashion. I have seen more fashion forward and queer men wear cuffed jeans or shorter pants, but it's rare to see straight men wear these.

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geekyMary@reddit

There will always be jerks who will tease people, but in general clothing isn't that big of a social norm, so it doesn't need to be reinforced with mockery.

Also, if someone was making fun of your pants (because they're a jerk), all you'd have to say is that it's part of your religion and that would shut them up very quickly.

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SeggsObjeggt@reddit

How interesting! I've never encountered a religious order to expose MORE skin as opposed to covering up, which is 99% of times the case in all faiths.

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invisible_handjob@reddit

the origin of it is that for most of history textiles are the most expensive thing you would reasonably own by a huge degree. More fabric = more money. Wearing more fabric = showing off your wealth. Everyone's driving a Civic & you're getting groceries in a Bugatti

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RedRedBettie@reddit

yes but the women can't show a toe even

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spacedman_spiff@reddit

Well, not for women, anyway.

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rpsls@reddit

But not the knees! Heaven forbid men show their sexy, sexy knees.

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themachduck@reddit

Thats because it's a man that can show skin. A woman has to hide under tons of clothes so that the men dont get their peepees hard, you know because it's the woman's fault and they need to suffer for being born.

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alwaysboopthesnoot@reddit

Women do it more so than men, but younger kids and guys do it too.

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Inevitable-Trust-511@reddit

less to do with religion and more fashion style. i got a nice pair of loafers that are really kinda meant to be worn with cropped pants that i’ll break out in the summer usually. i think thats kinda the same vibe with other american men wearing pants that end above the ankles

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UpstreamVoyager@reddit

Only when my son had a growth spurt.

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ExtraTallBoy@reddit

If you're tall enough it becomes a fashion choice you don't get to make!

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RedRedBettie@reddit

Highwaters!

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Responsible_Side8131@reddit

True. When we were growing up we called pants that were too short High waters or floods

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Appropriate-Food1757@reddit

Floods lol

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Imaginary_Ladder_917@reddit

LOL. Thinking of my son who is mid growth spurt.

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nash3101@reddit

The middle east has a very different climate from 99% of the USA. Cropped pants wouldn't make sense here. Also, we can wear shorts

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Derwin0@reddit

Common for women, not common for men.

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onlyreason4u@reddit

We don't make everyday decisions about anything based on religion. It's not a thought that even enters our head. Of course there are exceptions but 99% no.

The United States isn't really Christian. The vast majority have a Christian heritage but actually religious is 63% Christian, 7% other (Muslims, Jewish, Buddhist, etc) and the other 30% aren't associated with anything. That number goes down every year, it used to 90% in the 90s. Of the 63% only about 30% go to church regularly, the rest rarely. I'd say for a lot that do go it's more social than actually religious. We have a lot of fake Christians too. They don't actually understand or follow the religion they claim to promote. It's more virtue signaling for right wing politics these days. The regular world day to day religious beliefs aren't spoken about in public, government and pretty much else is secular, etc. You see bumper/window stickers on cars and that's about it.

Specificly about the fashion choice to wear capri style pants: It's somewhat common for women. Men do wear them too but it's rare. In the warm weather shorts are far more common for both.

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ExultantGitana@reddit

Nothing like this exists in the masses for men and if they wear clothes of any fashion, it generally has nothing to do with religion or pride or humility. I'm sure, however, that it exists in particular religious groups.

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Maronita2025@reddit

No, everyone minds there own business!

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Responsible_Side8131@reddit

Women’s pants that are this length are commonly called capris, or sometimes pedal pushers (but that name is more old fashioned and out dated). I wear that type of pants all summer long becaise I dislike shorts.

Men don’t commonly wear them, but it’s not unheard of.

I don’t know of any religious connection to pants length, but I’m not a religious person.

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Appropriate-Food1757@reddit

Oh my God Mohammed wants people to wear dorky pants? That’s wild.

I think it’s fashionable right now or among young people.

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Ok_Buy_9703@reddit

I would wear shorts every day of my life, but like pedal pushers that are below the knee above the ankle, nope, or like capri pants are for women not men.

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aliendepict@reddit

While many in the US are very religious its important to note that less then 16% of America is classified as extremely religious, or adherents. Most are actually a church on the holidays only crowd.

For perspective, roughly 62-64% of Americans are Christian but 2/3rds only report going to church once a month or less, with 1/3rd reporting twice a year or less.

26-28% are unaffiliated, agnostic, etc. so they dont go to church at all and don’t prescribe themselves to a specific deity or god.

Then roughly Jewish (2%), Muslim (1-2%), Buddhist (1%), Hindu (1%)

There are not firm numbers from polling on the level of participation in these groups.

So to sum it up. Approx. 50-60% of americans dont participate weekly or even monthly in a religious event. Men wear pants out of whats comfortable, and not to be insinsitve but the reason you stated from the Quran doesnt jive well with modern interpretations of clothing perhaps back a few centuries the language of the text was true but today the length of your pants has nothing to do with pride and everything to do with weather events that day.

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ruggerbear@reddit

Cowboy boots look stupid if your pants don't come down to the heel. End of explaination.

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Efflux@reddit

3/4 Length pants, like this, are fairly common in the outdoor / hiking world with both men and women. I have a pair (male).

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gravely_serious@reddit

A dude wearing capris is going to get harassed by his buddies around here. Something longer that doesn't quite hit the ankles just looks like the dude can't pick pants that fit. We call them "highwaters" and poke fun at the guy wearing them. The only exceptions would be for sports and exercise.

Very, very few people in the US are going to associate pants length with pride. That's some ancient thought that doesn't have a place in modern times.

Women do what they want and get away with it.

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Zealousideal-Move-25@reddit

You mean hi waters. We would get laugh at in school for wearing pants like that and be asked where the flood is.

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ArkansasTravelier@reddit

I’ve seen a lot of pictures of Europeans also wearing these and as an American it looks off for the way we dress, we call them capris and I’d associate them with older women

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freddbare@reddit

Pride? To .. what afford 2% more fabric?! Booty shorts must be godly!

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AdamOnFirst@reddit

Until recently, never ever. Now occasionally you see joggers that are like this. Dress pants still never ever. All purely for fashion reasons.

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Dizzy_Description812@reddit

Mostly just women.

Tgeboble verse sounds like a warning against extravagance. Likely robes so long that they would drag behind and make a big show of how nice their clothes are to show how important they are.

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No-You5550@reddit

Nope, have not heard of this happening. I live in the deep south bible belt. The bible belt is where the number of churches out number the number of bars. But for real a preacher in this area is most likely uneducated in religion. They are "called by God" to preach and do so. This means a lot of churches are just family and friends of the preacher. The Catholic church is one exception. Their Father's are educated in religion. You go to the Catholic church in your area.

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PghSubie@reddit

They wouldn't be mocked out loud. But, they would be noticed, in a negative way.

Women wear capris frequently as a fashion. For men to do it simply implies poor clothing choices or lack of a clothing budget to get properly fitting pants

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scumbagstaceysEx@reddit

Above the ankle for men has not been in style at any point in my 50 years on earth.

For women it comes and goes and seems to currently be in style.

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ArentYouTheDaisy@reddit

Tell that to the clothing stores with 5 inch inseam shorts. The family jewels nearly hang out when I tried one on.

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Curmudgy@reddit

You need to wear briefs with such shorts.

I lived through the 70s when they were common. Even more common for gym shorts earlier than that.

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ArentYouTheDaisy@reddit

Any briefs you know that are comfy? I hate mine

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Curmudgy@reddit

It really takes experimentation. And if you’re not accustomed to briefs, you may never find some that are comfortable.

Though you might manage with trunks or shorter boxer briefs.

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scumbagstaceysEx@reddit

Well of course shorts are above the ankle. I assumed OP was asking about pants.

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cheesesteakhellscape@reddit

No way, joggers were super popular for men in the late 2010s to early 2020s. They're less popular now, but men still wear them.

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scumbagstaceysEx@reddit

I assumed OP was asking about everyday out and about wear, not what you would wear to the gym.

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cheesesteakhellscape@reddit

People do/did wear joggers out and about. They still do, they're just not every-other-guy like they used to be when they were super popular.

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goobernawt@reddit

ISTR that was, in fact, out and about wear.

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Judgy-Introvert@reddit

I see men wear capri style pants all the time. Mostly the younger generation. Women wear them too. It’s just fashion. No religious ties.

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Constellation-88@reddit

I never really look at ankle length on pants. It never occurred to me to give a shit. To me, wear what’s comfortable and don’t judge others for their clothing choices.

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dumptruckulent@reddit

Other than a general trend toward modesty, religion has no direct influence on what most people in America wear.

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wbishopfbi@reddit

No fuckin’ high waters allowed!

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flatpipes@reddit

As a fashion it would seem more east coast NYC than anywhere else. Not religion based but fashion. Don’t see it out west unless maybe again a fashion choice for LGBTQ?

Don’t get all in a fuss over the LGBTQ comment, you’re lying to yourself to think fashion choices aren’t made to make identifying statements about correlations to it.

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Delmoroth@reddit

Growing up when we couldn't afford to spend on new pants? Often. As an adult in a better financial situation? Basically never.

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Amazing_Divide1214@reddit

When I see something like that, I think of "capris" which is mostly associated with women in the US from my experience.

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ophaus@reddit

We actually don't have ankles here. Very strange.

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DjinnaG@reddit

A lot of it depends on how tall you are, or at least how long your legs are. Until I just gave up and started wearing men’s pants, which are available in different lengths, I never had pants that got within an inch of my ankles, and those were ones that were supposed to be “long”, regardless of the fashion of the moment

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bmsa131@reddit

It’s trendy now for some men to wear shorter pants. Women have always done so. Nothing to do with religion

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CubicleHermit@reddit

I wear my pants hemmed shorter, because my waistband tends to slide a bit and I don't want to walk on my hems.

No one in my life has ever commented on that. I think you're good. If concerned, wear conservative-colored socks.

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daswisco@reddit

It’s not widely common for people to dress following religious doctrine. However there are pockets of communities who do. Men’s fashion can be pretty regional, but you will certainly see men wearing pants hemmed above the ankles in some parts of the country in warmer climates or warmer seasons. Slacks with loafers, pants with sandals, athletic cuffed joggers with athletic shoes, etc. I think it’s much more common to find men wearing longer cut pants especially jeans, but I also don’t think a man would be mocked if they wore pants that exposed their ankles.

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alkoholicCmenthrower@reddit

I remember in school, elementary through high school kids that wore pants above their ankle were made him of for having "high waters"pants.

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DryFig511@reddit

I think pants slightly rolled up to be around the ankle is actually pretty common in many groups in the U.S. and no one would look at you that weird. Preppy men roll up chinos with boat shoes when it's warm. "Hipster" guys wear rolled up jeans with converse or docs. And tailored pants that hit at the ankle are not strange here in my opinion either (example)

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cheesesteakhellscape@reddit

Thank you!!

A lot of these responses are using clothing terms that are 20 years out of date and really not in keeping with today-fashion. Case in point, the only people I know who point out "high waters" derisively are in their 50s and 60s or older.

When I was in elementary school in the 90s, you would get made fun of for having ankle cut pants - but in 2026 ankle pants are a completely normal, fashionable hem length for women and mostly unremarkable for men.

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anfilco@reddit

Historically, men's trouser fashions have been more utilitarian, especially with jeans or casual pants, which necessitated longer legs to deal with boots and keeping your legs protected. Suit pants have a few more rules.

But no, you're unlikely to be made fun of, since fashion has dabbled in shirt pants from time to time, plus there're Muslims and other people around who wear more traditional clothes. And if they do ask you if you're expecting a flood or something (classic short pants joke), just tell em the truth, or say something like you got tired of the hems fraying.

For the exact opposite of what you're talking about, check out the JNCO jean trends of the 90s. No idea why those were popular, but hey.

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Ok-Growth4613@reddit

Women wear them. They used to be called kapris (I think spelled that right?)

Very rarely do you see been wear pants like this. Most pants go past our ankles.

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cheesesteakhellscape@reddit

Capris end just below the knees. This cut of pant would be called "ankle pants" and they're worn by men (usually as jogger) and women - but mostly by women. Ankle cut pants are extremely common for women.

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Ok-Growth4613@reddit

We must live in very different regions. Very rarley do I see a man wearing joggers here.

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cuentalternativa@reddit

I only knew one guy who wore them regularly, he was very interested in European fashion and soccer, we did have a short-term parachute pants trend that were kind of in style in the early 00’s but most people wore them long

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Salty_Permit4437@reddit

For women it’s extremely common to wear those kinds of pants.

For men typically they don’t except for shorts

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hornytoad456@reddit

I got teased for Flooding when I did it in school

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Ok-Astronaut2976@reddit

This is what’s kinda funny about religious mandates pegged to specific time/places/cultures. It’s all so arbitrary.

Like, your hem length isnt a sign of anything in the U.S. it’s not associated with pride or humility or really anything. So really there is no point in following that religious convention there, as it would be meaningless.

But this brings up an interesting question then: let’s say you were somewhere where pants where the hem showed off your ankle was a sign of pridefulness. In such a location would you then feel religiously mandated to wear long pants that covered them?

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Ok-Armadillo-5634@reddit

I am the only man I know that where my pants like that usually I role them up. I do it because it's hot here in Florida.

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w3woody@reddit

Capris? It's a particular style for women and it's uncommon but not unheard of.

For men? It's generally assumed to be a sign of ill-fitting and poorly tailored pants.

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Broad_Tie9383@reddit

Pant length is more related to weather conditions than anything. As a woman, I wear long pants mostly to protect my skin from sun, ticks (Lyme is big here), and cold (in the winter). Men wear shorts a lot in the summer here, but not usually to work in offices. The office work thing is odd and is taking a lot longer to adjust. I'd love us to do a thing like the Japanese do, where more weather appropriate clothing is acceptable in the summer and the indoor office temps are adjusted. The way it is here, you have to have so many layers in an office, because you will freeze in the air conditioning.

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BioDriver@reddit

It’s not uncommon. My past Muslim neighbors wore them all the time, and more senior people here (mainly women) tend to rock them at that length. As others said, it’s more dictated by culture, fashion, and trends rather than religion.

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RanjuMaric@reddit

"You preparing for a flood?"

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RoryDragonsbane@reddit

I work in an urban area where a large population of African Americans also practice Islam. It is very common for them to wear their pants above their ankles. They also frequently tuck their pant cuffs into their socks to prevent them touching the ground.

I would say it's noticeable when someone does it, but they are never mocked. Indeed, I would say the opposite is true. If a person who is known to be a Muslim doesn't practice norms according to the faith, they are often called out for it. Women who don't cover their hair, men who wear long pants, people of both sexes who don't fast during Ramadan, etc. are often called out for being "fake Muslims."

To clarify, this only applies to Muslims chastising other Muslims, and I've never seen someone try to apply these norms to a non-believer. Also, not all Muslims do so, but it is common.

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QizilbashWoman@reddit

We call these highwaters, and the 'Sheikh Joojles' wear them with khuff in the snow in Boston for some godforsaken reason.

But it's dictated by fashion outside of the beardos

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salamanderinacan@reddit

Mocked, unlikely. But some may privately wonder if you are incompetent at laundry and accidentally shrank your pants.

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Double-Award-4190@reddit

No, I don't think you'd be mocked. I have teased a close friend who despite his age (40's) started wearing high waters like his son was doing.

It's a temporary fashion trend, where I live.

But even when the fashion fades, you'd be fine. It's an imperial culture and there's all kinds of people here. We adapt and accept, for the most part. :-)

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gard3nwitch@reddit

Capri pants are a common style of pants for women to wear in warmer weather. But it has nothing to do with religion.

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tomveiltomveil@reddit

With the usual warning that the USA is a big, strange nation:

Tight pants with the shin exposed are called capri; this look is strongly associated with homosexual men.

If you wear normal-fitting pants with the shin exposed, most people would not notice. But those who did notice might assume that you accidentally bought pants that are a bit too short for you.

Loose fitting pants with the shin exposed are usually called "baggy shorts." Twenty years ago, this look was once strongly associated with black urban teenagers who thought it made them look intimidating. Then it became a wider fashion trend, so that now lots of people will wear baggy shorts -- for example, elderly men in Florida seem to love this look. It's considered very informal, though; it would not be a polite way to dress for an office or a Christian church.

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Patient-Ad-7939@reddit

In the US, men sometimes wear cropped pants, but not often. Their pants typically go to the ankle, or are shorts and those vary from knee length to 2" inseams and all between. Men showing ankles with pants can be seen, it’s just not common as those men are typically fashionable, or just someone who outgrew their pants.

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Neither_Pudding7719@reddit

Huh...fascinating discussion. I've never seen a belief-based trend or tradition regarding the length of male pant legs.

Hems on shorts go up and down based on fashion trends and generational fads...kind of like widths of ties or facial hair. But it's not generally based upon morals...just style.

Female clothing in the US however? HAS been critiqued based upon morals (which this Redditor believes is tragic). Skirt lengths, bare shoulders, back and front cuts are all criticized based upon moral/religious beliefs.

ONE US opinion among 300M or so...

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willtag70@reddit

The vast majority of Americans don't take fashion advice from Muhammed. It's common for women to wear pants that expose their ankles, but it's uncommon for men.

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cjdstreet@reddit

There is a phrase. Your budgie is dead. Basically it looks like your poor, have outgrown your trousers and can't afford new ones

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Main-Vacation2007@reddit

Floods

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loweexclamationpoint@reddit

Closest thing would be rolled or cuffed, sometimes guys do that when wearing boots & slim pants

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Quirky-Invite7664@reddit

Yes, men would be mocked. Not outright, but people would look at a man in capris pants and inwardly roll their eyes.

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Ok-Energy-9785@reddit

Common enough

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WhiskyStandard@reddit

“Capri pants” tend to be considered a more feminine style.

Men wear shorts all the time, often in weather that one would consider too cold. 50°F is the generally accepted threshold temperature where I am, but I’d still consider that a bit nippy.

Whether or not men wear them is entirely about comfort and aesthetics and nothing to do with religion.

The only person I’ve seen do it for religious reasons was a coworker who was a white American Muslim convert who had roughly cut all of the hems off of his pants. I remarked about that in the presence of a South Asian Muslim coworker and he had to explain that to me.

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