freecodecamp is not that good anymore
Posted by Ok-Lifeguard-9612@reddit | learnprogramming | View on Reddit | 45 comments
I watched a 2-hour video about "drone programming", and about 1h 40min was like: "Hey, let's write in Cursor the prompt of what we want and then just talk about it!"
The cringiest moments were when he got stuck on a problem, and then asked the AI model to fix it - and sometimes the model just failed, so the guy immediately quit and moved on to another issue hahaha
I would rather ask AI to explore a concept directly instead of watching a 2-hour "let's play with prompt" video.
TheSoftwareMaster@reddit
freeCodeCamp was good when it was actually based on the namesake and not the subscription adjacent dupe it’s become today
QC_Failed@reddit
That's seems incredibly disingenuous. All the content is entirely free. There is a 15 second cute little animation that pops up and asks if you'd like to donate to remove the animation and support the coursework every few lessons, but you can remove it for a one time 5 dollar payment, or you can use it as your reminder to stand and stretch, grab a snack, etc.
A subscription adjacent dupe is not accurate at all lol.
Classic-Band-8119@reddit
freecodecamp has a rich history. While the new content isn't as good as it once was, the old content still exists. I'd recommend skipping new slop content
Secure_Dish_9766@reddit
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Different_Pain5781@reddit
Yeah that video format is trending but it is shallow. you do not really learn systems from watching ai fix things. prompting ai is not the same as understanding code. Codecademy or freeCodeCamp still works if you actually code along. Boot dev focuses on backend development with interactive code so you are forced to build and not just watch.
XxDarkSasuke69xX@reddit
Bruh asking cursor while presenting a course is something that i wouldn't even fathom doing. I guess standards are low nowadays.
az987654@reddit
Sounds like you were hired to put on a concert and all you did was play YouTube videos of your old songs
2836382929@reddit
Hey let’s not forget he sang along for approximately 15 seconds
ShowIntelligent4498@reddit
Is this a certain Justin in a certain music festival?
az987654@reddit
Cough-chella, I have no idea what you're talking about
WanderingGoodNews@reddit
He should teach the actual craft. He is doing exactly that, except fix it when it can't do it
That's how you provide value as a human, otherwise we would script you promting the AI instead of paying you
Snugglupagus@reddit
Sounds like you’re referring to their video content, which are videos created by many different sources and aren’t really as curated and scrutinized as their main website curriculum. This is expected.
Their main full-stack curriculum at freeCodeCamp.org is a masterpiece.
Boring_Psycho@reddit
Is it really that good? Asking as a complete noob who's been trying and failing to learn js for the millionth time now.
Snugglupagus@reddit
It does several things really well.
First, it gives you a structured path of learning so you don’t have to worry about skipping around to different resources or tutorials. The second is that it gives you spaced repetition, interleaving of materials and the appropriate amount of handholding necessary to actually practice active learning.
The theory and workshop sections hold your hand, then the labs are where you’re let loose to practice and apply the things you’ve learned.
The labs and certification projects (while usually not too time consuming) are “project-based” so you get an idea of how all the code actually comes together to make something functionally useful and with substance.
SourCreamSplatter@reddit
TIL they have text curriculum. I thought it was all videos.
ichsanputrs@reddit
You can try my website if you want, same like leetcode, budibadu provide many coding challenge and problems :) https://budibadu.com
Nok1a_@reddit
Never was any good same as codecademy and many others, watching videos wont get you anywhere, you need to read and write
Just-Pea-5165@reddit
Is there any really good ones? I’ve hear about The Odin Project.
Nok1a_@reddit
It is good, also you can check MOOC from Helsinki University, they have plenty of them, very well structured
1mmortalNPC@reddit
codecademy is not video based learning
Vandrel@reddit
Neither freeCodeCamp or Codecademy involved videos at all last I looked at them. It's been like 8 years since I did freeCodeCamp but at the time it was entirely about reading and writing code and actually making stuff. It was good enough back then I learned enough to get my first programming job.
No idea what state it's in these days but at one point it was very good.
vector_mash@reddit
I'm working through it now and haven't seen any videos, I think the format is great.
Stock-Breakfast7245@reddit
codecademy had these interactive courses were u then read and write, idk if codeacademy changed, but u used to read smth, and immediatly put it to use by writing code, PRETTY USEFUL ( how i learned html). but then again I learned html so badly maybeee I shouldn't have used it as a resource ( im trash at html and css and js, websites look uglyyy and just not good )
Misterfoxy@reddit
FCC circa 2017 was way better than Codecademy or Odin Project. It was the first site that actually got me building things
magick_bandit@reddit
I say this often to learners: there’s no video tutorials on the job, you best learn to read and apply.
johlae@reddit
Basic literacy, the forgotten skill!
Eastern-Reading-755@reddit
Thanks for the heads up. I was planning on watching that video but now will pass. Is there a place someone can go to read honest reviews of courses on FreeCodeCamp, Udemy, etc.
naomi-lgbt@reddit
Hello there~
I am very sorry to hear that you were not satisfied with this video course. We do our best to provide the most effective coursework we can to position you for success as a developer.
AI-augmented workflows are becoming increasingly common in our industry, so it would be a disservice to you all if we did not share information about that.
However, I have very much heard your feedback on the quality of this course. If you would like to share the link to the course with me, I will gladly pass the feedback on to our video team~
Ok-Lifeguard-9612@reddit (OP)
Hi, thank you for addressing this. Understanding how to use Cursor and prompting is for sure good nowadays, even learning how to solve an issue with AI, but then, the title of your video and the thumbnail could be seen as misleading, since learning drone programming is not the focus of any of the content there.
Here is the link of the video "Learn drone programming with Python - tutorial" https://youtu.be/k-yDYgc8AmU?is=8IFvqXzo8PFFJ3Dw
alphadester@reddit
the text based curriculum is still solid tbh. the video content def went downhill when they started relying on AI generation
Stock-Breakfast7245@reddit
lol.
SumTimes89@reddit
I like their podcast because it's refreshing hearing actual people who do things versus the doom and gloom all over reddit. That being said, a lot of their recent youtube courses are about AI stuff which I'm not that interested in. They put out tons of videos though and some of them are still really good. I think they are just releasing AI content since a lot of people want to learn about it and there is less demand for "learn how to make a .NET app from scratch" stuff. Some of freecodecamp's best content are articles on their website but its hard to find.
SourCreamSplatter@reddit
I actually like freecodecamp overall, but it's basically the TEDx of learning to code. Some of the video authors might be really good programmers but that doesn't necessarily make them good teachers.
rustyseapants@reddit
Are you now going to buy a book?
LowFruit25@reddit
We are not a serious industry
patternrelay@reddit
Yeah, feels like a shift from teaching fundamentals to showcasing tools. Watching someone prompt their way through problems isn’t the same as understanding why things work. It’s useful in small doses, but not great as a primary learning method.
IForgiveYourSins@reddit
You're not that good either
theseyeahthese@reddit
GOT EM
makonde@reddit
Programming video video views have fallen of a cliff with AI being available so I think they are just responding to the market and testing what works now.
Noldor1999@reddit
i started with freecodecamp like year ago when i began learning web dev. the text curriculum was actually helpful for basics but yeah the videos are hit or miss now. some are really good and some feel like the person is just playing with ai tools the whole time lol
i started with freecodecamp like year ago when i began learning web dev. the text curriculum was actually helpful for basics but yeah the videos are hit or miss now. some are really good and some feel like the person is just playing with ai tools the whole time lol
PM_UR_TITS_4_ADVICE@reddit
Freecodecamp wasn’t all that good to begin with
ZelphirKalt@reddit
Was it ever that good in the first place?
ScroogeMcDuckFace2@reddit
it was pretty decent back in the day.
PonosDegustator@reddit
I heard that line from a uin professor. Guess this shit is an industry standard now
SemanticThreader@reddit
FreeCodeCamp used to hit during Covid times, I learnt so much. However, I agree the courses don't have the same value anymore