Most people who played this game ended up getting the message backwards.
Kojima: The free flow of information that the internet provides is the single greatest threat to tyranny in human history. Your overlords know this and will use the boogeyman of "misinformation" to fear monger you into letting them censor the internet. They'll probably claim they want to "create context"."
Redditors: Wow, misinformation is a serious issue. We need to let our overlords censor the internet to protect us! We need more "unbiased" "fact-checkers" adding context to posts that aren't true!
You think the problem is redditors doing it? The president just lied to everyone’s faces yesterday and “created context” that his AI post was actually him “as a Red Cross doctor”
Kojima had the gist of it, but his biggest problem was underestimating the stupidity of the average person on most topics. The overlords dont need the misinformation "boogeyman" to keep the people out of the flow of information, they flow is already corrupted, both by the overlords who put out propaganda, and by the people who put in their stupid ass ideas for other idiots to validate, including the ideas placed by the overlords. The cycle of misinformation is real, feeds on freedom of expression and metagames democracy to stay in power.
To me, at the very least, context adders serve as a brake to the momentum of any message, real or not, and having that is better than not having it
Just like most second games (halo 2, dark souls 2, medieval 2 total war, age of empires 2 etc) it’s the best in the series. Mgs2 is so good, definitely a top 5 video game of all time
The fact I want Snake to peg me is only a coincidence, while its arguably the best story in Metal Gear, its gameplay is the weakest in my opinion followed very closely by 4.
On the opposite end of the spectrum the best gameplay is probably 5 with the weakest story. The perfect middle ground is 3, 1 would be up there too if it hadn't aged like cold piss
I just didn't like being on the same monotonous oil rig the whole game. It's a good game, and the story is great. But the gameplay is probably my least favorite except peace walker
I spent so many hours playing this game, I was obsessed. I had just gotten a PlayStation 2 for Christmas and just played and played.
One night, took a shower, and wanted to play again before going to bed. I didn't even dry off I just put a towel over my shoulders, then sat in front of my TV and played.
It's been a while now. I feel like I gotta shit. Ever since I was a little kid, if I was playing a video game and had to go to the bathroom, I wouldn't stop playing, I'd just hold it, shuffle and pee pee dance, until it was almost too late. Tonight things went a little differently. Yes, I know I could just pause but I'm a fucking idiot, what do you want?
I held it in, kept playing, really gotta go now, can't go now I'm fighting Fatman. Ok but I really gotta go now, almost done... There I know a big ass cut scene is coming so I put down the controller, ease myself up and start kinda waddling to the bathroom. Still naked.
I sneeze in the hallway, big sneeze, immediately realize I shit right there in the hall. I go to the bathroom, finish my shit, clean up the hall and go to bed.
Wake up, go school, come home. Didn't see any of my parents until I came home and my mother goes
" DiD yOu ShIt On ThE rUg?!?"
I'm just laughing now, I'm like yea but I thought I got it all
"NoooOooo!" She says.
I mean I like it better these days, but there are still some things that just drive me up the wall. I hate how many LONG codec conversations are without music, I hate how all of the cutscenes have a weird slow-mo blur whenever characters move, I hate how they introduce Otacon's sister then immediately kill her off, and by god I hate Solidus as an antagonist. Underdeveloped, incompetent, and just plain ol boring.
And you know what? I'm not a fan of the Big Shell in general. It's just annoying to sneak around and navigate in, and it lacks the strong identity that Shadow Moses and Tselinoyarsk have. I don't get excited to revisit any area in the big shell the same way I do when I play 1 and 3.
As someone who bought it on release I don’t think it was ever considered “bad”. We have this unfortunate thing these days where there are no shades of grey with things, I remember on release there was some controversy over the main character but most people I talked to still really enjoyed it at the time.
Nothing changed, mgs2 was always terrible.
People who never played PSX were born into tripple gay slop and are used to iterative product devolutions on daily basis.
Mama_Mega@reddit
Most people who played this game ended up getting the message backwards.
Kojima: The free flow of information that the internet provides is the single greatest threat to tyranny in human history. Your overlords know this and will use the boogeyman of "misinformation" to fear monger you into letting them censor the internet. They'll probably claim they want to "create context"."
Redditors: Wow, misinformation is a serious issue. We need to let our overlords censor the internet to protect us! We need more "unbiased" "fact-checkers" adding context to posts that aren't true!
Bullfrog777@reddit
You think the problem is redditors doing it? The president just lied to everyone’s faces yesterday and “created context” that his AI post was actually him “as a Red Cross doctor”
Affectionate-Ad-6255@reddit
Biden admin during COVID lying about their mass censorship of information
Biden admin assembling the ingredients for a very easy power chair to mess with information that 🍊 happily uses now
:/
reimmi@reddit
Bds
SerJoseph@reddit
Kojima had the gist of it, but his biggest problem was underestimating the stupidity of the average person on most topics. The overlords dont need the misinformation "boogeyman" to keep the people out of the flow of information, they flow is already corrupted, both by the overlords who put out propaganda, and by the people who put in their stupid ass ideas for other idiots to validate, including the ideas placed by the overlords. The cycle of misinformation is real, feeds on freedom of expression and metagames democracy to stay in power.
To me, at the very least, context adders serve as a brake to the momentum of any message, real or not, and having that is better than not having it
Matt_2504@reddit
Just like most second games (halo 2, dark souls 2, medieval 2 total war, age of empires 2 etc) it’s the best in the series. Mgs2 is so good, definitely a top 5 video game of all time
duckflux@reddit
?
Matt_2504@reddit
Yes
SkeetonherValentine@reddit
3 is the superior one.
Theroux721@reddit
Only Final Fantasy 9 fans think anyone hated MGS2
duckflux@reddit
What the fuck does that even mean
Theroux721@reddit
it means you're a FF9 fanboy
Affectionate-Ad-6255@reddit
He isn't a very good writer lol
SovietSteve@reddit
I never got past the boss fight on the ship did I miss anything
Moholbi@reddit
It was always great. Only the people who want to get pegged by snake thinks it is bad.
theleetfox@reddit
The fact I want Snake to peg me is only a coincidence, while its arguably the best story in Metal Gear, its gameplay is the weakest in my opinion followed very closely by 4.
On the opposite end of the spectrum the best gameplay is probably 5 with the weakest story. The perfect middle ground is 3, 1 would be up there too if it hadn't aged like cold piss
Matt_2504@reddit
I felt like the gameplay was the best by far. The camera angles clearly had a lot of thought put into them, and the maps were really well designed
ghstrprtn@reddit
agreed. something is lost in making everything too open-ended.
Moholbi@reddit
Played 1 for the first time around 2018 or something. It was a great experience. Would't say that it aged that badly. It still slaps gameplaywise.
theleetfox@reddit
I'm glad you think so, I still love it I just thought newcomers might struggle if they played others first. Its still fantastic though
primordialpickle@reddit
Twin Snakes on GameCube really made the game so much better to play.
OnePastafarian@reddit
I just didn't like being on the same monotonous oil rig the whole game. It's a good game, and the story is great. But the gameplay is probably my least favorite except peace walker
mustachedchaos@reddit
The gameplay was good but you're right about being stuck on the oil rig the majority of the game.
aj_thenoob2@reddit
The top-down control scheme was pretty bad. The oil rig missions were God awful.
Remarkable_Log_5562@reddit
I played it for the story, didn’t love the gameplay personally, it was okay
idk-who-cares@reddit
Nah, I think it was great too.
Moholbi@reddit
Lol
Flywolfpack@reddit
I can see how there being only 1 game featuring snake at the time would suck
BigCarBill@reddit
I spent so many hours playing this game, I was obsessed. I had just gotten a PlayStation 2 for Christmas and just played and played.
One night, took a shower, and wanted to play again before going to bed. I didn't even dry off I just put a towel over my shoulders, then sat in front of my TV and played.
It's been a while now. I feel like I gotta shit. Ever since I was a little kid, if I was playing a video game and had to go to the bathroom, I wouldn't stop playing, I'd just hold it, shuffle and pee pee dance, until it was almost too late. Tonight things went a little differently. Yes, I know I could just pause but I'm a fucking idiot, what do you want?
I held it in, kept playing, really gotta go now, can't go now I'm fighting Fatman. Ok but I really gotta go now, almost done... There I know a big ass cut scene is coming so I put down the controller, ease myself up and start kinda waddling to the bathroom. Still naked.
I sneeze in the hallway, big sneeze, immediately realize I shit right there in the hall. I go to the bathroom, finish my shit, clean up the hall and go to bed.
Wake up, go school, come home. Didn't see any of my parents until I came home and my mother goes " DiD yOu ShIt On ThE rUg?!?"
I'm just laughing now, I'm like yea but I thought I got it all "NoooOooo!" She says.
Guess I missed a piece. Anyway,
yea was like 14/15
edbods@reddit
i was kinda expecting jumper cables somewhere
The_Third_Molar@reddit
Thank god we can pause cutscenes in modern games.
Phishstixxx@reddit
New copypasta
DarkSoulsRedPhantom@reddit
I mean I like it better these days, but there are still some things that just drive me up the wall. I hate how many LONG codec conversations are without music, I hate how all of the cutscenes have a weird slow-mo blur whenever characters move, I hate how they introduce Otacon's sister then immediately kill her off, and by god I hate Solidus as an antagonist. Underdeveloped, incompetent, and just plain ol boring.
DarkSoulsRedPhantom@reddit
And you know what? I'm not a fan of the Big Shell in general. It's just annoying to sneak around and navigate in, and it lacks the strong identity that Shadow Moses and Tselinoyarsk have. I don't get excited to revisit any area in the big shell the same way I do when I play 1 and 3.
SlipWolf@reddit
MGS2 has always been great.
FuckLeRedditMods@reddit
It was always a good game.
Slide-Maleficent@reddit
HiTekLoLyfe@reddit
As someone who bought it on release I don’t think it was ever considered “bad”. We have this unfortunate thing these days where there are no shades of grey with things, I remember on release there was some controversy over the main character but most people I talked to still really enjoyed it at the time.
Phishstixxx@reddit
Always was a good game but with a stupid story about the [redacted] running the Matrix- oh wait
Otsuko@reddit
LaLiLuLeLo
MesrEffTen@reddit
My Snake was always Solid
THEPIGWHODIDIT@reddit
Great game. Really short though.
-BuckarooBanzai-@reddit
Nothing changed, mgs2 was always terrible. People who never played PSX were born into tripple gay slop and are used to iterative product devolutions on daily basis.
PrrrromotionGiven1@reddit
I prefer it to 3 whether we include or exclude the silly plots
ghstrprtn@reddit
me too
superraiden@reddit
I mean, other than the surprise twink, it was always amazing.
Some say BECAUSE of the surprise twink.
Also inb4