Also have a 25Ahr that goes on the seat tube if I want more distance. Usually the way I use it I get 25 to 30 miles from the 10Ahr, so don't need the 25Ahr unless I am doing a longer ride. Typical weekend ride is 45-50, but weekdays it is 20 or less.
10Ah? What cell config and cells? This bike has double the capacity of yours, full suspension and weighs the same and you're attempting to equate them?
Just because your frame is steel doesn't mean that it's inherently "heavy" 1lb of steel is the same as 1lb of carbon. Material is irrelevant unless the weight is equivalent. Those tubes look very tiny (and probably very thin), the seat looks very small, thin, and uncomfortable, absolutely zero suspension and is apparently very heavy by your estimation.
Are you claiming your bike is heavy? What are you comparing it to? Without a context weight is subjective. My comparison is to my 90lb and 170lb bikes, my bike is ultra light in comparison. For the power, range, suspension performance and comfort this bike is very light weight when compared to other bikes of this caliber.
10Ah? What cell config and cells? This bike has double the capacity of yours
Did you not bother to read it also has a 25Ahr battery that I can attach? And I can still keep that one, so 35Ahr total. Adding more would be easy enough. I could put the rack on, the top bag would hold 3 of the 10Ahr, maybe 4. They are very small.
Just because your frame is steel doesn't mean that it's inherently "heavy" 1lb of steel is the same as 1lb of carbon.
Um. No. Not the way it works as they have different modulus of strength. pound for pound, carbon is stronger, thus the frame should be lighter for the same use case.
Those tubes look very tiny (and probably very thin), absolutely zero suspension and is apparently very heavy by your estimation.
No, not tiny, and not thin. They are wider than your typical steel tubes. Some are actually Formula 1 tubes not specifically bike tubes. The builder is near Laguna Saeco raceway, and can buy the tubes from the warehouse that supplies them. Similar steel grades and heat treatments, just a little thicker.
the seat looks very small, thin, and uncomfortable,
It's not a seat, it's a saddle, and I can ride on it for 6 to 8 hrs, or 100 mile ride. This is actually wider than I am used to, I lose another 10 or 15 lbs I can go back to the narrower one. But you have to have the sit bones toughened up to ride a saddle, just like a horse. It's not a Lazyboy fluff seat like you have.
If it works, good for you, but I prefer a saddle not a cushion.
absolutely zero suspension and is apparently very heavy by your estimation
Of course it has suspension, don't be a jackass. It has 48mm tires, carbon fork, carbon handlebars... just not shocks. But still suspension. I can do 100 miles, not a problem. But then, I could do 100 miles on a regular bike, so it's not surprising.
As for heavy... not for an ebike. Regular bike? Yeah, I have a regular bike by the same builder that is around 16lbs.
I am comparing them. Are they the same? No, they are similar endpoints just different path.
Congratulations on the thorough rebuttal of criticisms I didn't actually make. Truly impressive 😂. You've defended your bike against an argument that exists primarily in your own head, while simultaneously accusing me of being the one who can't see past 'mine is better.'
The saddle lecture was a particular highlight. I did not know I needed a dissertation on sit bones and Lazboy cushions at 2am, but here we are.
We agree the bikes are different. We agree they're both custom built exactly to spec. You've just spent 400 words explaining that... while calling me narrow-minded for the comparison. 🍻
"I quoted you" 😂 What are you talking about? You didn't even refute my response at all, are you sure you're not projecting when you're talking about not standing behind your own words? You seem very upset and serious.
You were comparing my bike to yours, my response was that they're not comparable. Are you really trying to say that they're the same? Allow me to quote you ("Fuck dude. I quoted you" 😂 - sorry that is still so funny to me) "you are fucking high, or stupid. Or both. Both is good."
Why are you so angry? Rule #1 here is respect each other.
This bike is one of the hardest bikes I've converted to electric. But I am glad I did it as it turned out to be one of the best ebikes I've ever made (and I've made a lot).
It turns out that high end mountain bikes of the prior decade make for great ebike platforms if you can find one at a decent price used. I've seen you can usually get one in great shape that also comes with a bunch of expensive upgraded parts for pretty cheap. Sure you will pay double or triple of your "walmart special" offerings, and yeah it will show some signs of use, but the parts quality (brakes, suspension, tires, hardware, everything) is absolutely incomparable.
What is it? It's a 2014 Norco Range 27.5 and it has:
Building off my last ebike (10KW peak) I wanted to make something more absurd, aiming for 20-30KW peak while also attempting to lighten the frame (hence the carbon selection). After a lot of thinking, I realized that my ridiculously heavyweight walmart frame was only 5lbs more than this ultra premium Norco bike. While that may seem like a lot (20% heavier), once you start piling on multiple kilowatts of power 5lbs doesn't really matter, and what does matter is strength and stability. Also this particular build didn't lend itself to even accepting a hub motor as it has a premium through-axle mount. Pair that with the fact that an even larger hub motor probably wouldn't clear it's swoopy swingarm design and I was looking at potentially needing to design my own swingarm.
I wasn't against this proposition as I do like a challenge, but what really deterred me from my original goals was the fact that I really enjoyed pedaling this bike without any electrification. It just made way more sense to turn this into a lower powered ebike while keeping lightness in mind and that is what I did. It's basically a pedal bike that gives you the incredible ability to never get tired and the battery lasts so long due to the fact that it's so easy to pedal on its own. This bike is one of my most vanilla and lowest powered ebikes I own but it's currently my favorite.
If you're thinking about converting a carbon frame bike it can be pretty challenging due to the unconventional bottom bracket. I do have a full build guide of this bike on my channel https://youtu.be/DeeNRZZfJmE with some ticks and trips to help you. Thanks for checking it out! 🍻
The Bafang BBSHD is rated by the manufacturer at 1,000 Watts, and that is still illegal in most USA states and other countries. The manufacturer also recommends against installing these motors on carbon frames, since the attachment nut can crush the bottom bracket when it is torqued correctly.
I think this is important to say in case other people are tempted to do something similar. A Bafang BBS02 on an aluminum frame would be legal in the USA and would be a much more reliable ebike, while still having an enormous amount of power for a bicycle (750 Watts).
It's an urban explorer, perfect frame for this conversion and my goals 🍻 And no it won't be "ripped off in technical terrain", you must not be familiar with how these mid drives are mounted or their construction.
i don't really care how they are mounted because that doesn't change the clearance issue. integrated mid drives where the frame is built around the motor are just better for terrain clearance.
That motor is a massive impact magnet
You're commenting on things you don't understand (and admittedly don't care to understand 😂). It's made for the road, what is there to massively impact?
Who is hassled and what maintenance 😂? This bike is levels more performant in every metric than your overpriced karen-mobile for 1/4 the price (seriously a $4000 KTM that isn't carbon and doesn't even have a suspension fork?) it's no surprise to me that these ideas are way over your head. If you can't understand, I don't think more explanation is going to do the trick. Cheers man 🍻
you do you, but even if you don't use it, fork and shock servicing is a real thing when racking up the riding hours. Kinda wasteful if you don't need the travel.
my bike is exactly what i wanted at a pretty standard price level for a bosch mid drive. I opted carbon fork/alloy frame, because saving 1,5kg for full carbon wasn't worth losing almost 10kg of weight capacity for bikepacking. And suspension fork isn't exactly what you want on a gravel setup that's mostly about distance. Just another point for failure and more maintenance
How do you know I don't need the travel? Shock rebuilding is quite easy and inexpensive. Well worth the comfort and stability, the suspension on this bike is incredible.
By that logic electric systems are also just another point of failure and more maintenance. Batteries ultimately will degrade and need to be thrown out which is also wasteful and harmful to the environment on top of needing more maintenance through replacement, and not to mention expensive. Your purchase and usage of such a bike that you feel is "highly optimized" is actually extremely wasteful and unneeded (by your logic).
Stepping out further you're wasting electricity and opportunity cost via time that you could be using for any number of more productive, less wasteful and more optimized things than to argue with strangers about things you don't even really care about, on a device that was made in a factory through extremely exploitative means which is also highly pollutant to the environment. Which are all things very wasteful and unnecessary.
You seem like the type that is hyper focused on optimization to the degree that it blinds you to causes and scenarios that fall beyond this very narrow boundary of perception. If you see everything through this lens it doesn't take much if you step outside of that tunnel to see the contradictions and hypocrisy in this way of seeing.
you said it yourself, it's an urban bike that's going to be all road. You won't need the kind of suspension travel and if you ever do, that bb with the large motor hanging from it will be in serious danger of bottoming out(which probably will be no fun on a carbon frame
in this case a smaller motor or a hardtail would have been a way more sensible setup.
your rant notwithstanding, i mostly care about setups making sense for their purpose and not being an accident waiting to happen
why put rear suspension on a road going motorcycle then? of course it makes sense. this is an ebike that can go far faster than a normal bicycle - roads are bumpier at higher speeds so full suspension still makes for a nice cushioned ride. Not what it was designed for but so what...
I'm no scientist but I don't see that happening. There is definitely less clearance - it's the first thing I noticed - but this isn't a dainty kids bike. I don't know what makes you think the motor will just "rip off" unless you do nothing but bash your bottom bracket out on the trail like an idiot.
The clearance between the battery and the shock looks awful tight. Good job making it work. Put that thing on the big cog and head uphill at full throttle. Haha, I'm sure you'll have to work to keep the front wheel on the ground. Fun bike!
All you need to do is zip tie the motor body to the down tube. With a piece of inner tube between the motor and the frame. Essentially then you use the motor body as a torque arm to react the motor torque. You could also use an aftermarket torque arm. Either way you eliminate the need to torque the hell out of the motor mount bracket which would definitely be a bad idea on a carbon bike.
Been riding it quite a while now, hasn't loosened at all. I even planned to fab my own over engineered torque plate as I anticipated it loosening, but so far that hasn't been necessary.
Nothing about this looks stealthy lmao. It’s quite obviously an e bike. Unless you mean the black paint makes it harder to see in the dark, in which you could be right if it wasn’t for that bright white fork. What do you mean by stealthy anyways?
It looks much heavier than it is, carbon is deceptively light as the mass can be big but the weight is small. For the builds I make it's barely electrified and very compact, so stealth is all in context. 🍻
ferromagnetik@reddit
How much does it weigh?
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
50-60lbs
Superb_Raccoon@reddit
My steel bike weighs that. No one would call it "ultra light".
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
Are you just comparing a bare frame weight to a full suspension electric bike? 😂
Superb_Raccoon@reddit
har har?
I didn't have a full build pic, just the bare frame stage.
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
Specs? Is that a tiny battery under the seat? Are you really trying to compare these two bikes? 😂
Superb_Raccoon@reddit
52v 10Ahr battery. 2000w max power.
Also have a 25Ahr that goes on the seat tube if I want more distance. Usually the way I use it I get 25 to 30 miles from the 10Ahr, so don't need the 25Ahr unless I am doing a longer ride. Typical weekend ride is 45-50, but weekdays it is 20 or less.
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
10Ah? What cell config and cells? This bike has double the capacity of yours, full suspension and weighs the same and you're attempting to equate them?
Just because your frame is steel doesn't mean that it's inherently "heavy" 1lb of steel is the same as 1lb of carbon. Material is irrelevant unless the weight is equivalent. Those tubes look very tiny (and probably very thin), the seat looks very small, thin, and uncomfortable, absolutely zero suspension and is apparently very heavy by your estimation.
Are you claiming your bike is heavy? What are you comparing it to? Without a context weight is subjective. My comparison is to my 90lb and 170lb bikes, my bike is ultra light in comparison. For the power, range, suspension performance and comfort this bike is very light weight when compared to other bikes of this caliber.
Superb_Raccoon@reddit
Did you not bother to read it also has a 25Ahr battery that I can attach? And I can still keep that one, so 35Ahr total. Adding more would be easy enough. I could put the rack on, the top bag would hold 3 of the 10Ahr, maybe 4. They are very small.
https://electrifybike.com/collections/52v-batteries/products/52v-50amp-10ah-samsung-21700-50s-mini-max-e-bike-battery
and
https://electrifybike.com/collections/52v-batteries/products/52v-80-amp-25ah-mega-shark-e-bike-battery
Um. No. Not the way it works as they have different modulus of strength. pound for pound, carbon is stronger, thus the frame should be lighter for the same use case.
No, not tiny, and not thin. They are wider than your typical steel tubes. Some are actually Formula 1 tubes not specifically bike tubes. The builder is near Laguna Saeco raceway, and can buy the tubes from the warehouse that supplies them. Similar steel grades and heat treatments, just a little thicker.
It's not a seat, it's a saddle, and I can ride on it for 6 to 8 hrs, or 100 mile ride. This is actually wider than I am used to, I lose another 10 or 15 lbs I can go back to the narrower one. But you have to have the sit bones toughened up to ride a saddle, just like a horse. It's not a Lazyboy fluff seat like you have.
If it works, good for you, but I prefer a saddle not a cushion.
Of course it has suspension, don't be a jackass. It has 48mm tires, carbon fork, carbon handlebars... just not shocks. But still suspension. I can do 100 miles, not a problem. But then, I could do 100 miles on a regular bike, so it's not surprising.
As for heavy... not for an ebike. Regular bike? Yeah, I have a regular bike by the same builder that is around 16lbs.
I am comparing them. Are they the same? No, they are similar endpoints just different path.
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
Congratulations on the thorough rebuttal of criticisms I didn't actually make. Truly impressive 😂. You've defended your bike against an argument that exists primarily in your own head, while simultaneously accusing me of being the one who can't see past 'mine is better.'
The saddle lecture was a particular highlight. I did not know I needed a dissertation on sit bones and Lazboy cushions at 2am, but here we are.
We agree the bikes are different. We agree they're both custom built exactly to spec. You've just spent 400 words explaining that... while calling me narrow-minded for the comparison. 🍻
Superb_Raccoon@reddit
You didn't make?
Fuck dude, I quoted you.
You dont even stand behind your own words.
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
"I quoted you" 😂 What are you talking about? You didn't even refute my response at all, are you sure you're not projecting when you're talking about not standing behind your own words? You seem very upset and serious.
Superb_Raccoon@reddit
Ok, if you can't see the quotes from you in the response, you are fucking high, or stupid.
Or both. Both is good.
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
You were comparing my bike to yours, my response was that they're not comparable. Are you really trying to say that they're the same? Allow me to quote you ("Fuck dude. I quoted you" 😂 - sorry that is still so funny to me) "you are fucking high, or stupid. Or both. Both is good."
Why are you so angry? Rule #1 here is respect each other.
Superb_Raccoon@reddit
Dude knows how to TIG:
nomadrone@reddit
„Ultra light” and 50 lbs. pick one
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
I pick ultra light! For its capabilities, it is ultra light.
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
This bike is one of the hardest bikes I've converted to electric. But I am glad I did it as it turned out to be one of the best ebikes I've ever made (and I've made a lot).
It turns out that high end mountain bikes of the prior decade make for great ebike platforms if you can find one at a decent price used. I've seen you can usually get one in great shape that also comes with a bunch of expensive upgraded parts for pretty cheap. Sure you will pay double or triple of your "walmart special" offerings, and yeah it will show some signs of use, but the parts quality (brakes, suspension, tires, hardware, everything) is absolutely incomparable.
What is it? It's a 2014 Norco Range 27.5 and it has:
- Carbon frame
- Carbon front wheel
- Carbon handlebars
- Dropper seat post
- BBSHD (1500W)
- 20Ah 52V battery
Building off my last ebike (10KW peak) I wanted to make something more absurd, aiming for 20-30KW peak while also attempting to lighten the frame (hence the carbon selection). After a lot of thinking, I realized that my ridiculously heavyweight walmart frame was only 5lbs more than this ultra premium Norco bike. While that may seem like a lot (20% heavier), once you start piling on multiple kilowatts of power 5lbs doesn't really matter, and what does matter is strength and stability. Also this particular build didn't lend itself to even accepting a hub motor as it has a premium through-axle mount. Pair that with the fact that an even larger hub motor probably wouldn't clear it's swoopy swingarm design and I was looking at potentially needing to design my own swingarm.
I wasn't against this proposition as I do like a challenge, but what really deterred me from my original goals was the fact that I really enjoyed pedaling this bike without any electrification. It just made way more sense to turn this into a lower powered ebike while keeping lightness in mind and that is what I did. It's basically a pedal bike that gives you the incredible ability to never get tired and the battery lasts so long due to the fact that it's so easy to pedal on its own. This bike is one of my most vanilla and lowest powered ebikes I own but it's currently my favorite.
If you're thinking about converting a carbon frame bike it can be pretty challenging due to the unconventional bottom bracket. I do have a full build guide of this bike on my channel https://youtu.be/DeeNRZZfJmE with some ticks and trips to help you. Thanks for checking it out! 🍻
BoringBob84@reddit
The Bafang BBSHD is rated by the manufacturer at 1,000 Watts, and that is still illegal in most USA states and other countries. The manufacturer also recommends against installing these motors on carbon frames, since the attachment nut can crush the bottom bracket when it is torqued correctly.
I think this is important to say in case other people are tempted to do something similar. A Bafang BBS02 on an aluminum frame would be legal in the USA and would be a much more reliable ebike, while still having an enormous amount of power for a bicycle (750 Watts).
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
It's my favorite redditor policeman boringbob 😂, thanks for keeping the world so incredibly safe.
BoringBob84@reddit
And you are my favorite internet egotist (for today, at least).
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
What world problems are we solving today through virtue signaling and shaming people on reddit?
33666daddy@reddit
BOOOOOOOOOOOOY
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
🚨 The ebike police are at it again! 😂
33666daddy@reddit
hey man i love it
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
That must have been a glitch because I replied that to someone else who was being a nanny. Thanks man! 🍻
Laserdollarz@reddit
Well, at least when it cracks, it likely won't send you over the bars.
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
I've never broken a frame and have done other carbon builds too 😎
CordisHead@reddit
That’s what everyone says until it happens the first time…
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
When I break a frame you'll be the first to know 🍻 Until then I will keep building and riding.
CordisHead@reddit
Chances are you won’t. Just bustin your balls. Lunacycle used to have some nice chainrings that I’ve put on a couple of my Bafang e-mtbs.
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
I'm gonna remember that 😂 The aftermarket for bafang is pretty good, I've seen all billet parts, hardened internals, etc.
SlashNreap@reddit
Nice electric dirt bike :)
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
This is a low powered ebike, I'll show you an electric dirt bike when I'm done with it 😂
Worried_Document8668@reddit
that drive unit hangs so low, you will rip it off in technical terrain. Wrong frame for a conversion
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
It's an urban explorer, perfect frame for this conversion and my goals 🍻 And no it won't be "ripped off in technical terrain", you must not be familiar with how these mid drives are mounted or their construction.
Worried_Document8668@reddit
i don't really care how they are mounted because that doesn't change the clearance issue. integrated mid drives where the frame is built around the motor are just better for terrain clearance. That motor is a massive impact magnet
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
You're commenting on things you don't understand (and admittedly don't care to understand 😂). It's made for the road, what is there to massively impact?
Worried_Document8668@reddit
then why go with the extra hassle and maintenance of full sus? males zero sense for the purpose
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
Who is hassled and what maintenance 😂? This bike is levels more performant in every metric than your overpriced karen-mobile for 1/4 the price (seriously a $4000 KTM that isn't carbon and doesn't even have a suspension fork?) it's no surprise to me that these ideas are way over your head. If you can't understand, I don't think more explanation is going to do the trick. Cheers man 🍻
Worried_Document8668@reddit
you do you, but even if you don't use it, fork and shock servicing is a real thing when racking up the riding hours. Kinda wasteful if you don't need the travel.
my bike is exactly what i wanted at a pretty standard price level for a bosch mid drive. I opted carbon fork/alloy frame, because saving 1,5kg for full carbon wasn't worth losing almost 10kg of weight capacity for bikepacking. And suspension fork isn't exactly what you want on a gravel setup that's mostly about distance. Just another point for failure and more maintenance
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
How do you know I don't need the travel? Shock rebuilding is quite easy and inexpensive. Well worth the comfort and stability, the suspension on this bike is incredible.
By that logic electric systems are also just another point of failure and more maintenance. Batteries ultimately will degrade and need to be thrown out which is also wasteful and harmful to the environment on top of needing more maintenance through replacement, and not to mention expensive. Your purchase and usage of such a bike that you feel is "highly optimized" is actually extremely wasteful and unneeded (by your logic).
Stepping out further you're wasting electricity and opportunity cost via time that you could be using for any number of more productive, less wasteful and more optimized things than to argue with strangers about things you don't even really care about, on a device that was made in a factory through extremely exploitative means which is also highly pollutant to the environment. Which are all things very wasteful and unnecessary.
You seem like the type that is hyper focused on optimization to the degree that it blinds you to causes and scenarios that fall beyond this very narrow boundary of perception. If you see everything through this lens it doesn't take much if you step outside of that tunnel to see the contradictions and hypocrisy in this way of seeing.
Worried_Document8668@reddit
you said it yourself, it's an urban bike that's going to be all road. You won't need the kind of suspension travel and if you ever do, that bb with the large motor hanging from it will be in serious danger of bottoming out(which probably will be no fun on a carbon frame
in this case a smaller motor or a hardtail would have been a way more sensible setup.
your rant notwithstanding, i mostly care about setups making sense for their purpose and not being an accident waiting to happen
mickeyaaaa@reddit
why put rear suspension on a road going motorcycle then? of course it makes sense. this is an ebike that can go far faster than a normal bicycle - roads are bumpier at higher speeds so full suspension still makes for a nice cushioned ride. Not what it was designed for but so what...
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
Thank you my friend! Finally someone who understands 🍻
Castro_66@reddit
And mostly useless as a MTB now, but I guess that's probably not the use case.
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
How is it useless as a mountain bike? Your guess is correct as the tires should suggest 🍻
Taiyoryu@reddit
It lacks clearance. On certain terrain the bike will bottom out and you’ll rip the motor off
iH8MotherTeresa@reddit
I'm no scientist but I don't see that happening. There is definitely less clearance - it's the first thing I noticed - but this isn't a dainty kids bike. I don't know what makes you think the motor will just "rip off" unless you do nothing but bash your bottom bracket out on the trail like an idiot.
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
It depends on where you ride, but as far as "ripping the motor off" that's nearing impossible.
raymondhvh@reddit
We got different definitions of stealth.
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
Watch out 🥷
Lordly_Lobster@reddit
The clearance between the battery and the shock looks awful tight. Good job making it work. Put that thing on the big cog and head uphill at full throttle. Haha, I'm sure you'll have to work to keep the front wheel on the ground. Fun bike!
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
Thanks man! The big sprocket is absurd, never even used it, comical on a build like this 😂 🍻
carmooch@reddit
It’s not recommended to install the BBSHD onto a carbon frame because the clamp style installation can crack the bottom bracket when torqued to spec.
MaxTrixLe@reddit
Yeah idk how OP possibly managed to torque the BB to spec, it requires an insane amount of torque. And even then tends, to get loose
Lordly_Lobster@reddit
All you need to do is zip tie the motor body to the down tube. With a piece of inner tube between the motor and the frame. Essentially then you use the motor body as a torque arm to react the motor torque. You could also use an aftermarket torque arm. Either way you eliminate the need to torque the hell out of the motor mount bracket which would definitely be a bad idea on a carbon bike.
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
Been riding it quite a while now, hasn't loosened at all. I even planned to fab my own over engineered torque plate as I anticipated it loosening, but so far that hasn't been necessary.
MaxTrixLe@reddit
There is a steel one you can buy for FS bikes
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
Thanks man! I would just custom fab my own though, you might want to link that for others that are interested though as it could be helpful.
I really thought this would be an issue, but thankfully hasn't loosened once.
EmmaReid2734@reddit
The Bafang BBSHD relies on being torqued down pretty tight, and that pressure can create stress points or even micro-cracks over time.
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
I'll let you know if it cracks 🍻
veloread@reddit
This was a cool video! I'm not so much into the high power stuff, so this was a nice change of pace.
I had no idea you could do stuff like that to a carbon frame.
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
Thanks man! Yeah it is pretty vanilla for me but this is the best way to still get some exercise when riding 😂
veloread@reddit
Absolutely, and that's the kind of ebikes I like best!
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
Agreed, this was going to be a 30KW experiment, but I enjoyed pedaling it so much it was going to kill the thing I most enjoyed of it!
SBOChris@reddit
God damnnnnnnnnn I love this thing.
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
Hell yeah! Thanks man 🍻
IAmNotABot111@reddit
Nothing about this looks stealthy lmao. It’s quite obviously an e bike. Unless you mean the black paint makes it harder to see in the dark, in which you could be right if it wasn’t for that bright white fork. What do you mean by stealthy anyways?
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
It looks much heavier than it is, carbon is deceptively light as the mass can be big but the weight is small. For the builds I make it's barely electrified and very compact, so stealth is all in context. 🍻
Nova_Hunter@reddit
"light"
HTLL_OFFICIAL@reddit (OP)
"Ultra light" "acktuuuallly" 😎