James May is back in the United States! 🇺🇸

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yngseneca@reddit

In Europe plastic tops don't come off plastic bottles, they stay tethered. Just some context.

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WySLatestWit@reddit

I feel like that has to be very annoying.

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General_Scipio@reddit

So fucking annoying. Hated it the moment I tried it.

I stopped noticing it half way through my first drink. It's absolutely not an issue and if it helps the planet even better

People love to complain, it's pathetic

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WySLatestWit@reddit

I would argue that all you're contributing to is the increased production of plastic.

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General_Scipio@reddit

A tiny tiny bit. Which theoretically stops smaller bits entering the environment

But honestly, I'm willing to trust whoever the hell decided it was a good idea on this one. They probably know better than me when it comes to environmental issues.

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I don't have strong opinions on it one way or another, but in my limited research I've done since seeing this thread pop up it does feel like the CO2 emissions are potentially much more harmful long term than plastic bits.

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daredevil_mm@reddit

These plastic bits never disappear. It would end up floating for decades

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WySLatestWit@reddit

CO2 Emissions are multitudes of levels more existentially harmful to all life on earth.

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daredevil_mm@reddit

But if the lid doesn’t end up in the ocean, which is what this prevents, it can be reused. So the embodied carbon can be amortised. The extra co2 into this tiny piece won’t add much more than the lid

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WySLatestWit@reddit

Studies suggest just producing these new tethered lids will actually result in extremely increases in CO2 emissions.

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Freddyeddy123@reddit

Can you link your source please or we will just assume you are lying for some reason

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ecol@reddit

What studies are those? 😂😂😂

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daredevil_mm@reddit

Source? ‘Extreme’ - doubt it

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Schwartzy94@reddit

Normal bottles still have those small bits now it just doesnt seprarate.

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Suspicious_Neck_5156@reddit

They pull off extremely easily.

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WySLatestWit@reddit

I don't think youre supposed to do that.

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Suspicious_Neck_5156@reddit

lol no idea why you’re getting downvoted. I only pull them off when I’m drinking directly from the bottle, it’s a little easier to get the cap on straight when it’s not connected too.

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WySLatestWit@reddit

You know I wonder if that's actually a cultural difference between Europeans and Americans I didn't really know about. I feel like when it comes to plastic bottles - at least of a certain size - Americans always drink right out of the bottle. Do Europeans tend to pour into a glass more often than not? Genuine question.

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Echo-Azure@reddit

If I'm buying bottled water, I don't have a glass handy.

If I'm at home where my glassware is, I drink the perfectly decent tap water that comes out of the faucet, not bottled water.

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Suspicious_Neck_5156@reddit

Well it depends, if I’m at work I’d drink straight from a bottle but that would tend to be smaller ones, I’ve got a larger bottle of irn bru with me at the minute, 2 litres, and I am pouring this into a glass with ice, I’m at home why would I drink from a bottle?

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fnork@reddit

Thank fuck.

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Irrelevant231@reddit

It's utterly infuriating. It's designed to leave the sharp edge of plastic broken from the neck rubbing against your face. Probably dictated by some bureaucrat with the imagination of a mouldy potato and the self-righteousness of a Frenchman.

That said, as others have pointed out, it's easy to remove, it just adds 10 seconds to what was once a 2 second job (unless you're happy to yank it and risk spilling it everywhere).

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Hankol@reddit

And all of those people are idiots. It’s such a small thing, that helps the environment quite a bit. Not being able to use it properly is just laziness.

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TSMKFail@reddit

You get used to it very quickly, or at least I did. Most of them also "lock" open with a small clip.

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WySLatestWit@reddit

I don't really have a great opinion on them one way or another, quite honestly, it just feels like the kind of thing that would be a mild annoyance. I would probably gripe about it every time, even though it really isn't a problem. Though I feel like there's a high enough percentage of people who do find them annoying that the sad reality is they're probably snapping the tether anyway - there's someone in this thread who commented about it being quite easy to do. So I question it's effectiveness in the end.

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TheLastGenXer@reddit

You must not have had a euro coke then. its a effen crime against humanity.

meanwhile some water bottle designs were brillant

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TheLastGenXer@reddit

different bottles use different methods and caps.

every euro water bottle ive used, Ive liked it!

some were better though.

however euro coke caps are pure trash!!

and they make it hard to reseal and trick you into thinking its seal so it can leak everywhere.

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B4bulj@reddit

It is only annoying to cavemen that can't figure out how to use it properly. The rest of us finds them quite useful and handy.

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WindowsXp_ExplorerI@reddit

I find them useful actually. They prevent the cap from accidentally falling to the ground and they are very non intrusive if you take 2 sec to figure out how to drink without hitting the cap on your nose

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PoolRamen@reddit

That's one of the points, it lessens the number of objects littering, though the primary purpose is to allow both to be recycled even if they go through SSR

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ConsistencyWelder@reddit

They're awful. A quality of life degradation, a minor one, but it's so annoying and doesn't help the polar bears/cute kittens one bit

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WySLatestWit@reddit

Now the bottle and the cap both end up stuck to the same bear but everybody gets to feel like they're making a difference.

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zeromadcowz@reddit

When I first heard about it it sounded a bit annoying but when I was in Denmark it was a complete nonissue. Complete mountain out of a molehill.

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ConsistencyWelder@reddit

You must have been in the only part of Denmark where people aren't complaining about it constantly.

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zeromadcowz@reddit

Can’t say I spent any time speaking to anyone about bottle lids. I just saw it and was like “oh” and moved on.

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scottishkiwi-dan@reddit

You know it’s definitely a real problem if Clarkson wrote a column about it!

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bongsforhongkong@reddit

Or is it a made up problem like climate change? /s

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ProfoundBeggar@reddit

The biggest complaint I have with that style of cap is that it makes it slightly harder to refill from a water fountain or something, but not by much. They're fine; I can see why people don't like them, but if anyone actually cares, that says more about them than the cap.

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