Logging cross country time as an instructor
Posted by Ready_Teach_6213@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 10 comments
I am under the impression that XC time counts as all time during a flight as long as one landing is at an airport greater than 50nm from the departure airport.
So my question is, if a night XC flight is conducted from airport A to airport B (distance 62nm), student does 8 landings at airport B, return to airport A for 2 more landings (completing the night XC and 10 total night landings requirement). Can all of this flight be counted toward night cross country time when logged for the student and instructor?
I have a vague memory of reading an FAA interpretation stating that all time from engine start to engine shut down can be counted for XC if one landing is greater than 50nm. However I am struggling to find that document now.
FL060@reddit
Why would it not all be cross country time? I don't understand needing any interpretation documentation.
Ready_Teach_6213@reddit (OP)
I was told by a lead that the landings would not count due to a lack of pilotage and dead reckoning during that time of flight. But definition of flight time (1.1) and cross country (61.1) should allow it to count.
__joel_t@reddit
You're probably thinking of the Gebhart LOI which says a safety pilot cannot log XC time for among the reasons you listed. Your answer is probably there.
FL060@reddit
The "lead" is incorrect.
Rainebowraine123@reddit
You don't need to land to log it as XC at any level. It just only counts towards ATP cross country experience requirements.
Significant_Yam3012@reddit
I’ve heard this before, where can I find the source of this?
FlapsupGearup@reddit
Yes. If I flew 51nm away and did pattern work for an hour and flew back, I’m logging it all as XC. Especially if I didn’t turn off the plane and especially especially if I don’t full stop
swakid8@reddit
61.1 (vi) (B)
storyinmemo@reddit
You're probably looking for this 2009 interpretation: https://www.faa.gov/media/14751
Yes, it's all XC time if you log it as one flight.
rFlyingTower@reddit
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I am under the impression that XC time counts as all time during a flight as long as one landing is at an airport greater than 50nm from the departure airport.
So my question is, if a night XC flight is conducted from airport A to airport B (distance 62nm), student does 8 landings at airport B, return to airport A for 2 more landings (completing the night XC and 10 total night landings requirement). Can all of this flight be counted toward night cross country time when logged for the student and instructor?
I have a vague memory of reading an FAA interpretation stating that all time from engine start to engine shut down can be counted for XC if one landing is greater than 50nm. However I am struggling to find that document now.
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