I reported this when I “missed” this question in my state. I still passed but after retaking it last year it is correct and follows ISHP. Now I’m not gonna claim that I made that happen but I’m also not gonna claim that I didn’t.
The idea behind the convention was to standardise. It’s one of the first and oldest conventions still in place, and I think it being rigid as hell helps with being used everywhere.
It’s annoying for sure, but if countries adopt changes to it, write things in a different order etc then it will be as confusing as ISO containers for example are currently.
I mean I've seen it done both ways. I don't believe The shipping name necessarily has to come first. It is first more often I think. I haven't had to pull hazmat in over a year though so.
Financial-Prize9691@reddit
Your test might be based off of old information. I learned the ISHP acronym for the correct order.
(I)dentification number proper (S)hipping name (H)azard class (P)acking group.
bunssnowman@reddit
I reported this when I “missed” this question in my state. I still passed but after retaking it last year it is correct and follows ISHP. Now I’m not gonna claim that I made that happen but I’m also not gonna claim that I didn’t.
AndromedanPrince@reddit
dmv in tennessee had this wromg as of 2024 as well. i was shocked i missed it.
PoopyStinkbutts@reddit
Unless I'm having a massive brain fart, either of those can be first.
EX:
UN1213, Gasoline, 3, PGII
Gasoline, UN1213, 3, PGII
Both would be correct if I'm not mistaken.
Financial-Prize9691@reddit
They changed the rules in 2007 with a six year phase in. Between 2007 and 2013, you would have been correct. As of 2013 the correct version is:
UN1203, Gasoline, 3, II.
Lucius_Furius@reddit
The argument is that the name of the material is more important as UN numbers can cover multiple, similar materials.
At least that’s how we were taught in the EU.
PoopyStinkbutts@reddit
Maybe they should reevaluate their priorities if someone can't read past 2 letters, 4 digits, and a comma quickly.
Lucius_Furius@reddit
The ADR rules were written 75 years ago, and the basics have not changed. It worked great so far, just learn it.
PoopyStinkbutts@reddit
That's great and all, but both ways are still correct. It can be either or.
Financial-Prize9691@reddit
The order is specific and can be cause for OOS and a minimum fine of $500.
Lucius_Furius@reddit
The idea behind the convention was to standardise. It’s one of the first and oldest conventions still in place, and I think it being rigid as hell helps with being used everywhere.
It’s annoying for sure, but if countries adopt changes to it, write things in a different order etc then it will be as confusing as ISO containers for example are currently.
Environmental-Pear40@reddit
I mean I've seen it done both ways. I don't believe The shipping name necessarily has to come first. It is first more often I think. I haven't had to pull hazmat in over a year though so.
Financial-Prize9691@reddit
The order is specific and can be cause for OOS and a minimum fine of $500.
Critical_Opening_526@reddit
Not every hazardous material has its own UN number.
By giving the proper name they can see exactly what it is.
Un 1202 is both diesel fuel and diesel oil.