Airlines urge EU to step in as Iran war chokes jet fuel supply

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m71nu@reddit (OP)

I love flying, but I do not love airlines. They celebrate free markets when times are good and run to state aid when things get tough.

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rapzeh@reddit

The state should not intervene in bailouting failing companies. State intervention is not capitalism, but the exact opposite of it.

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I’d be ok with governments giving out loans to failing companies. I think there can be merit in keeping the company afloat so that the workers don’t have to go unemployed. But the company should then be owned by the government until they can pay back their loan, plus some hefty interest.

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Nob1e613@reddit

Private profits but public risks, fuck this system in general.

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Plus-Leather-7350@reddit

Dumb take. Airlines rarely make money. The whole industry is basically run as a public service for flyers

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Turbo_Normalized@reddit

Patently false. Most airlines are private companies and don't get much if any in the way of subsidies.

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Plus-Leather-7350@reddit

Bud. When private companies dont make money, they provide a good for zero profit. That's the same as a public company, except it's run better. That was the 'basically' part. Now think hard on that and get back to me.

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Turbo_Normalized@reddit

Lmaooo

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geekwonk@reddit

IATA says net profits were around $39.5B in 2025

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Plus-Leather-7350@reddit

Great now do 2020 and 2021

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geekwonk@reddit

try harder

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mgs112112@reddit

Lool that’s basically every company..

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TheMauveHand@reddit

Every person

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ClawhammerAndSickle@reddit

Yup, profit is privatized while losses are socialized

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wearthedaddypants2@reddit

Username checks out

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CessnaBandit@reddit

You can say that about any company and any individual. Airlines are a vital part of modern society and should be supported when needed. This cynical attitude I see so often on here about various things is toxic.

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Sternenschweif4a@reddit

Sorry, but as a European, the money is better spent on our railway network. The airlines should have saved more money when times were better.

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Turbo_Normalized@reddit

The constraint is the fuel supply which affects railroads, too.

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Sternenschweif4a@reddit

Do you see railroad companies crying for support?

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Thequiet01@reddit

I love a good railway network but trains do not meet all needs.

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Sternenschweif4a@reddit

Absolutely, but before I protect the airline profits I'd rather invest so it would reach full potential

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CessnaBandit@reddit

And to add, the main problem here isn’t money, it’s fuel supply. Airlines can’t save up fuel. Jet fuel can only be stored for a short amount of time by suppliers. It’s very complex and airlines aren’t just asking for money, but it’s much easier to get outraged and take a knuckle dragger “fuck them” attitude isn’t it

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Sternenschweif4a@reddit

They are asking for more lax rules on CO2 certificates, which is money.

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CessnaBandit@reddit

Want them all to go bust? Yea sure why not? Fuck them

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Sternenschweif4a@reddit

They won't all go bust.

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CessnaBandit@reddit

Glad you have it all figured out thanks for your input. You should let the airlines know

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Sternenschweif4a@reddit

humor me. how will they all go bust?

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CessnaBandit@reddit

Attitudes like that just make things worse

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Nob1e613@reddit

Accountability is worse for who? Might such focus on the short term but it’s only going to get worse unless we force companies to act right. If we’re just going to bail out private entities every time things get rough we might as well nationalize them and benefit when things are good

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bankkopf@reddit

What are airlines supposed to do else in a force majeure situation? Of they could hedge against a very abstract operational risk, but customers won’t be paying for that risk. Ideas like joint fuel buying or waiving slot usage requirements sound pretty sensible.

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m71nu@reddit (OP)

War, pandemics, volcanos are not abstract risks for airlines. Look it up in the risk section of any airline annual report.

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Ecthelion-O-Fountain@reddit

Volcanoes have been used to ask for state aid?

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SuperOriginalName23@reddit

Sure have.

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Broad-Lobster7470@reddit

So are we really looking at a scenario where we won’t be able to fly most routes within a month ?

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CessnaBandit@reddit

Yes

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kaatmbmjj@reddit

Nice try Netanyahu... we all know who's behind this war. The US is just the useful idiot-thug doing the dirty work.

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CessnaBandit@reddit

I wish I was Netanyahu. I'd pull my pants down on live TV and end of all this

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quesoandcats@reddit

Careful friend, we’re not allowed to acknowledge cause and effect here because “muh no politics” lol

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Turbo_Normalized@reddit

No.

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elprophet@reddit

I'm planning a Europe trip to attend a wedding this summer, mid July. I'm expecting a 10% reduction in overall flights, but not total collapse. For me that looks like choosing routes with multiple daily flights currently scheduled, and destination with multiple connections. And I'm privileged enough to be in a position that I can account for last minute change fees, and book tickets with more flexible change terms.

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HeartwarmingFox@reddit

Yup ,and all thanks to the warmongering pedophile

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ContributionEasy6513@reddit

I'm sure EU will write a very thoughtful letter expressing their heartfelt disappointment.
They might all fly out to the Alpine region for a scenic press release picture and lunch after.

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ThrowAwaAlpaca@reddit

yeah they want the EU to close the airspace so they don't have to reimburse passengers.

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christianbro@reddit

Nothing lost to damage Ryanair's profit. They are only worth off season, in high season driving thousands of kilometers can be even cheaper for 2 or more.

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Organic-Ad-7105@reddit

Bit late, aren't we?

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Senior_Green_3630@reddit

Another pay wall???????? Easy, just do what Australian Prime Minister Albanese has done, a full charm offensive to Singapore, Bruini, then Japan and Sth Korea. Securing our jet fuel supplies, with friendly trading partnersvwho rely on our coal and LNG exports to those countrys. We are ( Australia) a net exporter of energy abd dont forget our uranium exports.

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LEFUNGHI@reddit

Well, at least I already booked my flights to Japan for September.. they won’t get more expensive and canceled, right? Right???

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CharityFew4258@reddit

tbh airlines never miss an opportunity to use a literal geopolitical crisis to dodge their environmental responsibilities ngl. "we might run out of jet fuel so please stop taxing our carbon emissions" is some wild corporate mental gymnastics dude.