Damn, I hate Hollywood
Posted by mauschaus@reddit | Firearms | View on Reddit | 39 comments
Ep 19 season 5 of The Rookie, a police officer is chasing a kidnapper and this is his gun on body camera
According_North_4249@reddit
I love the show but yeah, it does take some willpower to ignore some of the more egregious mishaps concerning the portrayal of guns.
Student_Unlucky@reddit
I've learned, you don't mess with the old guy with a 357. Lol, used to work armed security in ohio. Went to requal and one 65+ year old guy with a 4in 357 shot the 50 yard portion. Guy to his left was a wannabe mall cop with a unreliably functioning "tricked out" glock that had trouble shooting every stage. He had 9 shots on his 50 yard target with 6 bullseyes almost making a single hole that took a lot of staring at to see all 6. Then 3 spattered barely on paper. The funny thing was, we only took 6 shots at 50... Old guys target was empty. Lol, as long as the guy knew what he was shooting, the old guys was a pretty damn good shot
jeropian-moth@reddit
The rookie is the corniest show even without this happening.
IAmMagumin@reddit
It's a complete waste of Nathan Fillion.
Student_Unlucky@reddit
Fillion is the only reason I put up with their clear anti-gun agenda. I love the show as corney as it is, and it's super corney. Just every time they throw their blatant propaganda across it pisses me off bc as you state, it's such a waste of Fillion. He has enough pull, that he could steer them towards an actual show rather than a medium for propaganda if he wanted to. However, it's evident he's ok with it.
The one where the banks getting robbed and the concealed carrier is like, oh let's just go die, "LEROY JEEENNNNKKKKIINS..." was such a damn blatant propaganda push. Lol I don't know if true or not but from what Ive heard, armed, legal concealed carriers have a vastly higher hit ratio than police and have done some mighty fine shooting in ending or preventing mass shootings. Look at Elisjsha Dicken, the guy who ended the Greenwood Park mall shooting with an 80% hit ratio of 10 rounds fired from a G19 at 40 yards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwood_Park_Mall_shooting
Dudewithaviators57@reddit
That, and I remember that Texas church like 7-8 years ago. Old retired guy 1 shots an attacker from halfway across the church. I think he used 357sig or something like that.
anoncop4041@reddit
All police shows are corny. A real show would be like the first 3 minutes something actually happens, then the rest of the season is filling out and filing paperwork. It would be very boring. Everything takes place over the course of one shift.
WiseDirt@reddit
What gets me is how fast they get all the lab work done in those shows. You want ballistics to try and match a gun you found at the bottom of a lake to some crime scene? Sure, but that's gonna be an 11-month wait because there's only one guy who can do it and he's already got 438 other cases ahead of you to process, and there's no guarantee he'll even get an affirmative result one way or the other.
MetapodCreates@reddit
"When I first joined the force, I assumed there were semen on everything and there was this huge semen database that had every bad guy's semen in it." - Superbad.
MetapodCreates@reddit
Yeah, but The Rookie is especially bad. They get into a gunfight with someone spraying a full-auto AK in the middle of LA, no other cops respond, and then a 30 second foot chase later Nolan talks him into surrendering because of the love of his sick kid or something.
I just watched an episode where a 'mentally ill' (putting in quotes because it was so poorly acted) adult draws a knife on them and his gangster older brother proceeds to hold a hollywood exec hostage and tries to rob his safe (that he has on set for some reason) and Nolan talks him into surrendering because of the love for his brother, and the hollywood exec gets shot in the meantime but then everyone walks away happy.
Reciprocity2209@reddit
The early seasons of Southland were probably the closest to this. Most of the interactions were misdemeanor offenses or minor disputes. Gave space for the characters to take center stage.
JohnnyDoe308@reddit
Loved Southland
Redrum_71@reddit
Southland was epic tv.
Destroyer1559@reddit
Someone never watched The Wire
JoseSaldana6512@reddit
I mean all copaganda is
bmm115@reddit
There are definitely cornier shows
mauschaus@reddit (OP)
I like it. Have the same appeal as “Friends”. Just to spend some time, but this scenes of guns…
Sniurbb@reddit
I dont watch tv so I've never heard of this show. Like, the entire scene/chase his slide is locked back? That's hilarious. My favorite Hollywood gun thing is when you hear hammers cocking when a firearm is aimed. All them glock hammers.
EmergenSeaBarber@reddit
I love la. Lived her my entire life. I know people in this show lol. They’re not well versed on firearms at ALL. There’s usually one dude who’s supposed to be the “expert” on guns. Test them out etc etc. But like, they’re not part of the creative team who builds & writes for the show. So like, their gap is there. Plus, more of them are liberal. Most of my liberal friends are against firearms. MOST, not all. So like, maybe it’s anecdotal to my experiences, but still. Worth noting bc it’s not my first show where I see this
SquaSH772@reddit
The elusive hammer fired glock 57
Bubbabeast91@reddit
My biggest pet peeve for all of Hollywood (gun related at least) is how people just duck down behind cars and are magically safe.
I've seen how easily simple 9mm punches all the way through a car, let alone any rifle caliber. Cars are NOT cover.
DontTouchTheWalrus@reddit
I mean, it’s a hell of a lot better than standing in the open. Plus there’s plenty of pieces that can stop or cause bullets to change trajectory. Plus concealment is a factor.
Censored_88@reddit
Hiding behind a car can work, and does most of the time.
Rarely do people shoot at what they can't see.
This is the video that always comes to mind when discussing the effectiveness of even a little concealment, especially against am untrained opponent.
https://youtu.be/-0jxfcgj1fc?si=059lpqrQILk-ZvDF&t=17
Plus, rounds do often change direction with each layer of material and either exit or get stopped.
Angle of impact makes a huge difference too. Straight on through a single car door is not the same as 15 degree angle through the entire car.
Very rarely do rounds enter one side of a car, and exit the far side within the width of a human torso.
Bubbabeast91@reddit
I've shot through cars personally, and if it's from one side to the other, it's not hard to land hits clean through the car.
Now concealment does do something, and the other guy can start wildly throwing shots or to your point stop shooting because he can't see you, but Im more talking about when someone hides behind the car in a scene, and bad guy is over here blowing the car apart with an automatic rifle, or even just dumping pistol rounds at the car, and it's clearly shown that they are hitting the car, yet not a single round makes it through to the other side.
A passenger cabin of your average car is pathetic at stopping bullets. It's possible that parts of the engine could block or redirect some, and if theres stuff in the trunk that could again block or redirect some, but even then you're going to get plenty of pass through on that car.
Optimal-Following-51@reddit
The gun safety and use in The Walking Dead is so unbelievable, i love the show but wow, the gun stuff is so cringe
secret_alpaca@reddit
Lol tea cup grip ftw!!
beegfatyoshi@reddit
I think it's perfect. The show is "The Rookie" right? It fits that The Rookie does not know his Glock is slide locked
risbia@reddit
He's 8 years in 🥴
Specter_RMMC@reddit
Pretty sure Nolan has an M&P issued sidearm unless that changes from earlier seasons.
Firesteel3@reddit
I remember a scene like this in smallville. Guy was holding a gun to someone's head with the slide locked back. Dude was begging not to be shot. Still bothers me.
Sianmink@reddit
The Rookie is deliberately bad about gun stuff.
TOKING-TONZ@reddit
Well the only thing clear about this image is his breach 😂
Primary-Border8759@reddit
It’s mom slip
IanWolfPhotog@reddit
Not uncommon in shows to have a scene that even for a split second shows the slide locked back. They have many takes and probably don’t pay a lot of attention to smaller details like that. Another thing is a missing rear sight on a bare rifle, which bugs me a bit. Just Hollywood doing Hollywood though.
redneckrobit@reddit
This shows gun play is so bad. Like why are you going after armed mercenaries with fucking Glock 17s
greatthebob38@reddit
You should just turn off your brain when watching TV shows. Otherwise, you will be finding problems a lot more problems.
EricIsEric@reddit
Perhaps it has been modified to fire from an open bolt like a PM63 RAK /s
preparedbassfisher@reddit
The Rookie is fun.
Low-Landscape-4609@reddit
That's definitely fair but always remember this, a lot of the stuff we see in Hollywood is all to make it more entertaining. Let me tell you a quick story.
I got to train twice down at strategic operations studios. That's a filming location in San diego. The guy that does a lot of the guns for movies and TV was down there doing a demonstration.
As you can imagine, Hollywood purposely goes overboard because it adds action and most people don't know at the end of the day.