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lorelie53@reddit

My knees have had me approaching stairs cautiously since my late 40s. It’s a bit better with 2 knee replacements, but I still approach with caution.

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I’m 51 and I’m way more aware of where I’m stepping. Cracks in the sidewalk, wet floors, not getting caught up in leashes when I’m walking dogs, not stepping over things like baby gates and the like. And I prefer to use a handrail when I can.

I also worry about other people my age walking around…not noticing curbs or steps stresses me out.

I’m determined not to fall and break anything as long as possible. Seems like that can be a quick decline in movement and health. Physical and mental.

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Ok-Till-5285@reddit

Absolutely, I have to take cement stairs up and down public transit, like a couple LONG FLIGHTS of 15 or 20 stairs from the top of the platform to the bottom, there is a mid level platform so if you fall at the top, you should land after 15 or 20 stairs not fly down the whole 30 to 40 stairs! and everyone is pushing and shoving or dawdling on their phones not paying attention. I swear picture myself falling down, bashing my teeth in and landing in a heap EVERY DAMNED DAY!!!

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Princess_Jade1974@reddit

I hook my arm around my railing just as a precaution while walking up the stairs.

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Cantech667@reddit

I’m 59. A few years ago, I fell down the stairs at my home and badly fractured my wrist. Three surgeries later, it’s never going to be quite the same. I wear progressive lenses, and I need to be mindful of judging close-up distances when walking or taking a step up or down. So, I get it. I’m confident about going up and downstairs, but that’s because I’m careful and mindful of what I’m doing. Certainly not the same as when I was 20.

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Substantial_Layer_79@reddit

Yes

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MuddyPig168@reddit

broke my hip last year in a freak ice storm. going down the stairs is a pain, but going up is easier. but i take my time in either direction

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Fotomonkey13@reddit

52, just had a hip replaced, I'm more confident than I've been in years. As I build the muscles and balance back up I'm less concerned, but I will watch the steps. Ain't trying to break what I just fixed

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Double_Device_1626@reddit

Speaking only for myself, at 56, I find that I'm more aware of the possible consequences of falling down the stairs. Steady as she goes.

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MaximumJones@reddit

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SoFlo1@reddit (OP)

lol totally forgot about that episode - I have a feeling at least one of the writers feels me

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ciaran668@reddit

When I was younger, I used to make fun of my dad for always going down stairs sideways, with his feet fully on the tread. Last year, my foot slipped and I went down an entire flight of stairs on my ass, fracturing my tailbone, 10 out of 10 would not recommend. It still hurts if I sit too long. Now, I go down stairs just like my dad did.

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EnjoyingTheRide-0606@reddit

Were you injured in the last few years? A leg or foot injury can leave older folks with a shorter stride, which makes them feel more in control and less likely to fall. But this shortened stride tightens muscles and connective tissues leading to a higher risk of falling. So check your stride!

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SoFlo1@reddit (OP)

Good catch - yes recovering from a back injury and my leg strength is still a bit unbalanced between the two

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nonotburton@reddit

I'm not freaking out about stairs, but I have recently had a tweak in my knee that's taking a bit too long to heal. So I'm definitely careful on stairs these days.

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Sudden_Office8710@reddit

Yeah stairs freak me out for sure especially the super long ones. I was catching the 7 train at Hudson Yards and that escalator scared the shit out of me. It’s probably my tinnitus, and vision going a bit too. If only we had the hearing of Daredevil. Yeah and I’m 52. When I was in my ‘20s I’d slide down an escalator like that with no fear. It sucks getting older.

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2ndChanceAtLife@reddit

I don’t quite trust my left knee not to buckle. So I take stairs slowly and firmly grip the rails.

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MaximumJones@reddit

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PahzTakesPhotos@reddit

I blew out my ACL when I was 18. If I had been a football player, it would have been a career-ender. But no, I was an 18 year old girl in a snowball fight, running from my friends. Since then, I've always approached stairs with caution. Then in my 30s, I started using a cane. Then two canes (because that's what the VA decided I needed instead of a surgery to fix my knees). My first total knee replacement came at age 39. My second at 46. I can climb stairs like a normal person, but if there's only one railing, I go down one foot at a time (the 39 year knee replacement first, because that leg is stronger). Two railings- if I can reach both- I can go downstairs like a normal person.

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Cinisajoy2@reddit

Seriously folks, get your eyes checked. Don't self diagnose vision.

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fastcatdog@reddit

You should be able to destroy stairs in your 50’s! Get mobile ,gym,bike,hike,rowing machine = go go go.

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Cinisajoy2@reddit

I couldn't do that in my 20s much less my 50s. Not everyone is you. And I was very active.

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SoFlo1@reddit (OP)

Ya but no, I’d put my RHR and VO2 max up against anyone my age. This has nothing to do with overall fitness, though watching my Dad age makes the balance training comment particularly useful.

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corneliusvanhouten@reddit

You should not be telling other people what their bodies should be able to do

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LynnBarr123@reddit

YES!! but mine is overthinking and being overly cautious. My husband is disabled, he cannot drive or do many household chores. We don't have any family nearby. If something happened to me... we both would likely die, as well as the cats and the fishies. Really - if I fell down the stairs and broke my ankle or wrist or anything else, it would be Game Over for both of us. If I can't drive we are not able to get to doctors appointments or the grocery store or anywhere else.

My boss at work hates people who are "lazy" and avoid the stairs. I explained to him my reasoning and he begrudgingly accepts my excuse to take the elevator.

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Cinisajoy2@reddit

I understand completely. Here are a couple of tips. For the just in case. Walmart + is a life saver.

Check now to see if your town has paratransit.

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HaloTightens@reddit

Ugh, you’re in my position too! I’m so afraid of something happening to me, because there’s literally no one to pick up the slack or help out. We’d just lie there, I guess.

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witchofpain@reddit

I have poor depth perception. I have fallen down the stairs so many times. I learned I have to hold the railing and look at the stairs or I will absolutely fall. I also take the elevator whenever possible.

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LawrenceSpiveyR@reddit

Stop wearing slides! Every time I've gotten hurt, I was wearing slides. Stairs + Slides are a killer combo!

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Fluid_Anywhere_7015@reddit

You'll love this.

My dad died at the age of 89, after tripping and falling down the stairs while fetching something for my mom. Broke his neck, crushed his skull. He was dead like flipping a switch.

My older brother, tripped down the stairs hauling a load of laundry. Same thing. Broken neck, shattered skull.

My oldest brother, who was suffering from cancer, but still mobile, tripped on the front porch steps and shattered the front of his skull on the concrete of the sidewalk outside his house. Ne never woke up.

I'm fucking petrified of stairs, and avoid them whenever I can. It's the only thing in my life that I feel the least bit superstitious about.

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Cinisajoy2@reddit

Great wording because it got everyone's attention.

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cosmoboy@reddit

Ugh. I have a bad knee from a unrepaired basketball injury when I was 16. I have spent most of my life hanging on to stair rails and after this story, I might 2 hand them for the rest of my days.

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Joyster110@reddit

I’m so sorry! That is horrifically tragic! ❤️

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hugatree2023@reddit

I didn’t love this one bit.

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pocketdare@reddit

I also failed to love this

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SoFlo1@reddit (OP)

Also not loving it. But reaffirms my healthy respect for stairs.

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SuzQP@reddit

I'm not sure "You'll love this" is the right intro to this information.

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TallStarsMuse@reddit

Wow! Thats an unbelievably dreadful list! I’m so very sorry.

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Hyperocean@reddit

I’ve been having slight misses when grabbing stuff for a bit, bumping into things. I used to be able to read license plates forms across a big bus yard, now I can barely see my phone when it’s dim, so it’s just my eyes doing what the rest of the body is doing ..

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Cinisajoy2@reddit

It may be a cataract. Get your eyes checked. It helped my left arm immensely getting the cataract removed. I quit bumping doors and door frames .

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mldyfox@reddit

I've always been a little clumsy, like trip on my own feet clumsy, so I tend to look down as I walk on a level surface. I'm for sure careful on stairs! Heck, I fall on my way UP a flight of stairs sometimes. It's ridiculous, but for me it's nothing to do with age, just my horrible sense of balance and body placement.

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Cinisajoy2@reddit

The first time I fell going UP stairs was in 9th grade.

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Square-Wave5308@reddit

I've come to realize that coordination-wize, I'm 3 racoons in a trench coat

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Cold_in_Lifes_Throes@reddit

I just laughed ridiculously loud at this. Thank you!

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CptBronzeBalls@reddit

I’m fine with stairs, but my wife worries me.

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Cinisajoy2@reddit

Wives are supposed to worry you that is our job.

Also, my husband could have written your comment.

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Cinisajoy2@reddit

Not after the last fall. I now watch my steps very carefully. Also if I am carrying something that partially blocks my view, I make sure to have on good shoes. My sandals caught on the step going up.

Also fit has nothing to do with falling or tripping.

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ElSordo91@reddit

Nope. I'm not in shape, but still take the stairs everywhere (almost never take the elevator) and on some stairs, will take them two at a time. I also use the bottom step to do calf raises, when I remember to do so. Going to keep moving as much as I can, as long as I can.

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Empty_Nestor@reddit

I just said to my son the other day that I admire Tony Hawk. He’s out there skateboarding and I’m using the railing when I go down the stairs.

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tej1967@reddit

I use the handrail a lot more than I used too mainly because I don’t trust my knees these days and I’m only 59!

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SamePhotographs@reddit

We have not got a hand rail on the flight of stairs up. My mother has been after me to install one for a decade now. My husband told me he thinks we've arrived at the time to get it done.

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w3woody@reddit

Three points of contact.

That used to be a boat thing. Now that's also a stair thing. In a couple of decades that will probably be a standing and walking thing.

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SamePhotographs@reddit

I was in the shower the other day, and determined that I need 3 points of contact in there as well. I was trying to bend to shave. Brought my leg up instead, but put it down again as the unsteady feeling came over me. So, 3 points of contact for regular showering, and I must be sitting to shave my legs (or put on socks or shoes).

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itwillmakesenselater@reddit

I had some nerve damage in my feet a few years ago and stairs became objects of fear. I never realized how much goes in to walking up or down stairs. Having to actively think about every movement is... challenging.

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sdavids5670@reddit

This reminds me of the first time I tried to go down an escalator with my baby in my arms. We were at a mall. I collapsed the stroller and held it in one arm with my baby in the other. I was about to step on the escalator (going down) and my whole body froze. I had to step aside to let people go past me. I stood at the top of the escalator for a good 2 or 3 minutes trying to build up the nerve. My wife was at the bottom looking bewildered. I must have looked like I was staring into the abyss. I finally had to walk down a flight of stairs.

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Fluffymanolo@reddit

I have always been a clutz, so I never went fast going down. When you trip over your own feet going up stairs you learn to not take chances on the way down.

That said, I discovered that I physically cannot bring myself to use glass stairs down. Up no problem.

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ancientastronaut2@reddit

I definitely use the handrail more than I used to.

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X-Bones_21@reddit

I’m a healthcare worker who has seen the full spectrum of results from falls. I’m also 53 yo and just last week I fell on the stairs for the first time in God knows how long. I bruised my heel pretty badly, but I’m lucky I kept my weight (mostly) over my feet and didn’t fall forward.

The two things I have seen that are beneficial is 1. Go SLOWLY, please! and

Do balance exercises that will train the brain to respond quickly.

Good luck to you!

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Forest_of_Cheem@reddit

I have ankylosing spondylitis and also very little cartilage left in my knees. I walk with a rollator. I do stairs very sparingly. In the warm months I go up and down the short ones to the pool every day that it’s nice. I have to carry my walker with me. If I have to do longer, regular sets of stairs, I need someone to carry my walker for me. Our apartment has an elevator, and it’s something we looked for when we moved here awhile back.

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BigFitMama@reddit

Count the stairs as you walk. 1-2-3.

It helps people with cognitive issues sync their gait.

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Hey_Laaady@reddit

I use a bannister whether I think I'll need it or not.

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Ok-Offer-541@reddit

Smart. I’m starting to the same. Can never be to careful.

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Hey_Laaady@reddit

I did a couple of face plants on stairs I thought I could navigate without a bannister. Never again.

I also told an older family member to do the same, and he hangs onto banisters now too.

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Ok-Offer-541@reddit

Same. I had a really nasty fall (just from missing the last step) and still haven’t healed properly. Not worth the risk! Stay safe! ❤️

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No_Ability1548@reddit

You're not looking at the stairs, you're looking at your mortality. Each step 'could' be the last. Hehehehehe.

My advice- do something insanely dangerous, but approach it sanely. Because it's easy to let our minds trick us into thinking things are worse (or better) than what they actually are, which can have a big impact on how much we enjoy life.

Try sky diving. Try scuba diving. Try skiiing, or parasailing (God, that's fun!). Try something that makes you feel uncomfortable- with a guide.

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TheFoxtail1977@reddit

I've had a phobia regarding stairs that began sometime in my late adolescence. I'm not sure what brought this about, if anything. I've often tripped while ascending, but descending is where my anxiety kicks in. I refuse to be in front of someone else on stairs and can become very unsure of my footing and depth perception. Sometimes I will try to begin going down a flight of stairs but it will take me multiple false starts that can last over 10 minutes at the most anxious moments.

Cannabis definitely increases the fear lol

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ZebraBorgata@reddit

No, lol, not yet. I still ski, ice skate, and bike regularly. I’m in my late 50s.

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maddog2271@reddit

I dont know if its stairs specifically but I find myself doing a lot more things more carefully these days because I have learned from hurting myself previously.

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ONROSREPUS@reddit

I work on my balance a lot. I think the helps me. I can still skip stairs up and down.

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imrzzz@reddit

I get you. I've been going to the park on sunny days and doing kiddy roly-poly turns on the grass, or rolling down hills.

It sounds really stupid, but remembering how to "fall" and be in upside down positions has reminded me that if I slip on the stairs, it will be ok.

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cosmoboy@reddit

I'm 51. Moved into a new house last September. In 7 months I have fallen on the stairs 3 times. Once without injury, one I slammed my tailbone, bruising it. Painful for weeks. Tailbone seems connected to everything. Fell this weekend too. Just slipped off a stair, caught myself, but the act o catching myself wrenched my shoulder. I drove my foot into the floor and may have broken a toe. Pretty achy.

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Ok-Offer-541@reddit

Ugh. So sorry! Injuries just heal as well at this age. ❤️

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Full_Mission7183@reddit

My arthritic right knee sometimes makes me let out a little yelp while walking up stairs. Down stairs she feels shaky, but no pain.

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Frosteecat@reddit

Yes. I even take curbs more seriously now.

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Ok-Offer-541@reddit

Yes! same here.

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Ok-Offer-541@reddit

Stairs are evil. A few years ago, I missed a bottom step and fell and sprained my ankle so bad. I’m very leery now. I feel I’m more wobbly as I get older. 😖👵🏼

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Firstcounselor@reddit

Our last house had nice carpeted stairs that I slid down a time or two without getting hurt. The new house has oak stairs. When we moved in I became certain that those stairs would be the cause of my death. So much so that I bought small motion sensor lights to illuminate them at night.

Damn that makes me sound old.

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WendySteeplechase@reddit

It's not a psychological thing, its a physical thing. Like huffing and puffing after 10 steps.

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SquirrelBowl@reddit

I don’t go up stairs if I can help it. I hold the railing on every step going downy

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rosesforthemonsters@reddit

My joints no longer allow running up and down the stairs.

And I'm a lot more careful going down, since I fell down the stairs a couple of months ago.

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nomad_805@reddit

I'm 57 and was told when I was a 45 I would need to get my knees replaced. I know the hardware is only good for 12 -15 years so I'm holding out as long as I can. Having said that, stairs suck. Definitely descending is the worst. Crazy thing is I retired and always talked about how much traveling I was going to do. I never had to factor in ADA accessible destinations. That was a joke, sorta.

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shan68ok01@reddit

Oof! I took my only(so far) international trip to the Philippines last year. After the long flights and layovers and a two hour drive from the airport to our destination, the hotel my brother booked didn't have an elevator.

The desk was at the American second floor and our rooms were on the third. Okay, not ideal with my structural issues, but "doable"... then I saw the stairs. A bit steeper than I'm used to and the risers were at least 4" taller. I contemplated crawling, but they were tile and my knees would have revolted harder than they did.

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brinehart-cincy@reddit

Just popped in to say "Nice pun."

And then complain about my hips hurting.

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SoFlo1@reddit (OP)

Thanks, as the body deteriorates the Dad jokes have only sharpened lol

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Joyster110@reddit

Amy Tan, the writer, wrote a whole article about being cautious on stairs and the injuries she’s gotten. Now all I hear in my head on the stairs is “Amy Tan said hold the handrail”. She scared me good.

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AgainstSpace@reddit

I live in a one story house, however my ladder has become a little more intense than I'm comfortable with .

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SXTY82@reddit

Up through my 30s I was going up stairs 2 at a time unless I was in polite company.

Now I take the first two steps down very carefully because that knee might decide not to support me. I also pause sometimes at the bottom and look up the stairs before climbing at a normal pace.

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MNConcerto@reddit

Hand rails are important

AND

I don't carry things on stairs. I will take the elevator at work even for one floor if I have my hands full.

2 knee replacements and a ton of PT is not getting fucked up by falling on stairs.

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Thirty_Helens_Agree@reddit

We were recently moving furniture up and down stairs. For that, I made extra sure that I was wearing proper shoes and that they were tied securely and there were no obstructions. Other than that, no.

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Robviously-duh@reddit

if you really want to mess with someone, when you are both approaching stairs ask them "which foot they start with, left or right?" they will think about it and hesitate.. lol..

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SoFlo1@reddit (OP)

lol, since a back injury and the asymmetric muscle recovery I’ve been extremely aware of my dominant foot and the issues it creates with leg and lower back strength - I focus on it now at the gym, and intentionally take more first left leg steps

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luvmy374@reddit

I have fallen down my porch stairs 3 times in the past year so yeah I am extremely careful about stairs now. No injuries thank goodness.

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Altruistic-Panda-697@reddit

Not so much stairs, but definitely more cautious on steep down grades when hiking or fishing. I used to be fearless there, but am now thoughtful and deliberative in my steps, especially on loose rocky ground.

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Pleasant_Tower_8424@reddit

I instinctively tread carefully down stairs, much more so than I would years ago, a product of excessive caution and bad knees.

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singleguy79@reddit

I take the elevator when I can.

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Due-Complaint-5719@reddit

My wife fell down the stairs 2 years ago. It was a traumatic fall that put her in a wheelchair for months, lots of surgery, rehab, medication that's permanently clouded her thinking, relearning how to walk, etc. Good news is she's physically great now and I'm thankful daily for modern medicine because they did something incredible but I will NEVER look at stairs the same way again.

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7eregrine@reddit

No problems. This sub absolutely makes me think I'm doing well.

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WileyCoyote7@reddit

Nope, up and down with no issues. My left ankle cracks a bit, on the way down, but it has done that as long as I can remember; no pain.

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7eregrine@reddit

There's 3 of us. 🤯 I would never have guessed so low. Apparently we're doing amazing.

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phalanxausage@reddit

In the past couple of years four people I knew died as a result of a simple fall. They were all older but otherwise in good shape. I'm very cautious these days.

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ToxicAdamm@reddit

I"m this way with hopping down things. I would always be the one to hurdle, hop and jump my way through the world. Now I am more cautious.

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jkepros@reddit

I trudge up and down lots of stairs daily, but, due to my poor eyesight go a lot slower and hold the handrail more than I did in the past. Sometimes I feel like the steps are giving me vertigo.

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dingonugget@reddit

I fell down mine and broke my ankle and leg. Missed the top step completely…

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Patient_Doctor4480@reddit

Yeah, I don't think it is a fitness issue. Slight changes in depth perception, slight changes with balance and even a little bit of joint stiffness seem like the biggest culprits when it comes to falling down or tripping on stairs. I am 54 and my gas tank is on the passenger's side of the car. No matter what I do, I keep parking a hundred feet from the pump, even though it looks like it is 2 inches away when I look through the window. Aging is a beast.

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Old-Introduction-337@reddit

Stairs are ok. Driving at night is another thing. I just go slower at night now-a-days.

Love those halogen 10M+ lumens.

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SunriseSwede@reddit

This. Especially on a wet road, with questionable quality reflective paint stripes. Yellow glasses for driving help some, but not a lot. I just give the keys to my wife.

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Old-Introduction-337@reddit

Wet road. I live on the West Coast of Canada. Wetness without rain. Mirror-like surfaces.

I'm with you minus the wife to drive.

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TallStarsMuse@reddit

Definitely! I think I first noticed when I got progressive bifocals 10-15 years ago. When I was still getting used to them, my depth perception was off. I felt like Allison in Wonderland on those steps. I think I’ve looked at steps suspiciously ever since.

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bonzai2010@reddit

I run 5 miles a day. I have for 15 years. I’m faster now than I ever have been (and I’m going to be 59 this year.) I hate stairs. I’m usually a little stiff in the morning and I’m tired at night. Stairs are something that I have to take carefully.

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Zero_Squared@reddit

I can walk for miles with the dogs no problem but I swear the stairs at home are getting steeper.

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Middle_Raspberry2499@reddit

I’ve often thought, recently, that if I hadn’t been using stairs my whole life—if they were some new thing that I was only just experiencing—I would be very reluctant to start now

I’d be OK going up maybe, but not down

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SunriseSwede@reddit

This. Especially on a wet road, with questionable quality reflective paint stripes. Yellow glasses for driving help some, but not a lot. I just give the keys to my wife.

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Odd_Tie772@reddit

I'm still hunting and hiking in the Rocky mountains, only my knees hurt the next day

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Historical_Project86@reddit

I have a chronic heel bursitis, no doubt inflamed by running but I'm not stopping that. So coming down stairs in the morning can be a bit of a hobble. I've also started tripping when running, I'm dragging my left foot, so I am a bit more wary of stairs. I'm about to enter mid-late 50s (57 in June).

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Lucky-Remote-5842@reddit

This started for me in my mid 40's. For a while I thought I might have MS. Suddenly my balance was off, I waa dropping things, I had weird tingling sensations in my back and legs, my sciatica that used to come and go, one day came and never went... turns out perimenopause is a bitch. And I have high blood pressure to go along with it.

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RikkiLostMyNumber@reddit

I fell down some stairs and broke an ankle at 43. I wish I had a sexier story to tell, but I was just carrying some laundry in a basket. It was very painful and ruined a whole summer for me. I have been very careful on stairs ever since and will stay that way.

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RealtorRVACity@reddit

M59, yeah, seems like everything is slowing down and more intent lately. Started lifting and seeing results, need to figure out the balance thing now.

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SoFlo1@reddit (OP)

Check out the google doc I added to op, I’d be interested in your thoughts

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ContributionDapper84@reddit

Oh don't bound down anything. You may need your knees til you are 93.

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sunfish99@reddit

This is me. Started because terrible arthritis in my knees made bounding down stairs painful, and occasionally a knee would buckle and threaten to wipe me out. Now, because I have two knee replacements and am hyper-conscious of anything that might lead me to fall and damage the implants because I can't afford the surgery to fix them.

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OryxTempel@reddit

Both my house and work have stairs. Use it or lose it.

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MassDelusion101@reddit

After knee surgery 3 years ago I had an incident of knee drop while in bed. One minute my lower leg is up in the air, the next, flush with the back of my thigh. Freaked me out! Ever since then I am petrified of stairs because my brain is convinced that the one and only time the knee-drop happened means stairs will definitely make it happen again. So, I have to ease my way down stairs, convinced that “this is it, this is how I will die because my knee is going give out.” 😆

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f700es@reddit

Nope. Can still run up and down. I've always had good balance.

Hit these "stairs" last fall... ;) One of many ladders hiking Grandfather Mtn here in NC.

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SoFlo1@reddit (OP)

Solid suggestion. Since a back injury I’ve been incorporating more mobility and functional fitness stuff in my workouts - balance work is missing.

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Staran@reddit

It’s myopia getting to you.

I have been having the same problem.