Do you think a DIY repair is possible?
Posted by KirbyCatv@reddit | sailing | View on Reddit | 74 comments
how would you guys do this
Posted by KirbyCatv@reddit | sailing | View on Reddit | 74 comments
how would you guys do this
BluTrtle@reddit
My boat survived Hurricane Harvey with minimal damage. Nothing like this! That’s a HELL NO!
DeryktheGypsy@reddit
Junk it!
noreturn000@reddit
what year is it
richbiatches@reddit
Er uh whaaat? No way
Mynplus1throwaway@reddit
Not a chance. What kinda boat is it? Just curious
KirbyCatv@reddit (OP)
it’s a venture 26
EmilPson@reddit
possible, definitely, but the value of the boat model is low enough where it is cheaper(counting time) to buy a well cared for, preferably recently gear updated boat, especially if not super picky on the model
mckenzie_keith@reddit
Try to get it back in the right shape with sheet metal screws and bondo. And use it as a plug to make a new mold.
Frank_Scouter@reddit
Yeah, it’s doable if you have the time, is willing to learn the knowhow, an indoor area to work in, and really, really, wants to do it.
Fibreglass is pretty enjoyable and easy to work with, just look up videos on how to do it.
Now, based on that specific picture I have no idea how much work is involved, or how much structural damage there is. It looks like a lot of work.
AussiInNZ@reddit
Sure, everything is possible but is it worth it? I mean, I can see how you bought it but its a huge job
Rednmrfer@reddit
She's stove in. I know it's the one pic, but there's very little chance in hell it's worth a good goddamn.
OldBowDude@reddit
No problem. Just use some Bondo and bottom paint. Nothing to it! /s
CtSamurai@reddit
Bro... this is the equivalent of having a broken back.
TradeApe@reddit
I feel like if this is a classic "if you have to ask, then no" situation.
Rednmrfer@reddit
mologav@reddit
MAC MAC MAC
Coreantes@reddit
With this picture, it’s a no. With more pictures, it’s probably “oh hell no”… something something free boat, most likely. RUN
ContinuousMoon@reddit
Possible? Sure. Almost anything is possible. Practical? Affordable? Reasonable? Responsible? No. To try is likely to be an expensive lesson in failure.
People do weird things, though, and those people keep the world interesting. Do you have a YouTube channel and are looking for content? It likely will never return to seaworthy condition, but might be worth a few clicks.
I say go for it. After all, it's not my money or time.
Sinister_Crayon@reddit
Oooooh... is that the Neel 47 I came across the other day that said it was "Project boat damaged and needs work"? I could see the crack in the pictures online and immediately noped out of that without asking for more pictures.
Mynplus1throwaway@reddit
Would a neel 47 fit on that trailer? I think no
Sinister_Crayon@reddit
That doesn't look like a trailer to me. More of a stand. Don't see many trailers made of wood.
Mynplus1throwaway@reddit
Ah true I didn't look super close
ziper1221@reddit
Wait if this is a Neel 47 there is a chance it is actually worth repairing
Sinister_Crayon@reddit
I would doubt it. If it were a Neel 47 then even if were floating by the amas the central hull would be sitting LOW in the water. This implies significant water egress into the technical/engine areas. Not knowing how long it might've been submerged I would presume everything below the living quarters is trash, and likely the forward area too (head, shower and storage).
Here it is if you think you might be up for it, but honestly if this is the same craft that hull is trash. Repairing and refitting properly you might be in it for a cool half a million... even DIY I wouldn't budget less than the current sale price of that yacht (about $350K US). That puts you within spitting distance of a ready-to-go model of the same vintage.
Again, no OP... the green hull paint and damage just make me think that's the same vessel. I'd say if you wanted to start a "rescue" YouTube channel it might be a good bet, but for 1/3 of what they're asking for it and no more.
ziper1221@reddit
Haha yeah absolutely NOT for 350k. I was thinking more like 50-150, essentially just the value of the undamaged components. It's hard to tell the extent of the damage from these shitty pictures but you could feasibly do it for like 50k in materials, 50k in yard rent and paid help, and 50k in opportunity cost lost wages. But yeah, if the motor and electronics and interior are trashed that isn't going to happen...
Beelzabub@reddit
Just curious, but the pic looks like two hulls or something. What's going on?
Sinister_Crayon@reddit
I'm not OP, so I can't say for sure but it does only look like a single hull in the picture... that's just a REALLY bad crack.
If it's the boat I think it is; the Neel is a trimaran so there is some validity to what you said :)
KirbyCatv@reddit (OP)
yeah that’s a single hull it looks like. This isn’t my boat btw it’s a venture 25 from facebook i was looking at. the dude said it had a gash but didint put the pictures on the listing. I wonder why…
Sinister_Crayon@reddit
Ah... so not the one I saw LOL. Yeah, sorry mate that boat is probably not worth the fees you'd pay on the hard for the time needed to repair it.
Hefty_Anywhere_8537@reddit
I'm a boat builder, I'd condemn it. That's beyond repair, you can't guarantee it has delaminated across the mat elsewhere, plus the structure floors and longitudinals have probably failed too.
vulkoriscoming@reddit
I also build boats and this guy is completely correct. That boat is toast.
chefkoch_@reddit
What even happened there?
vulkoriscoming@reddit
My guess is that the bunks on the trailer were not configured correctly and it settled over time causing the crack. Another possibility is that the bunks were configured incorrectly and the boat hit a bad pothole and broke. Another possibility, much less likely, is that a crane dropped it and it broke.
My long money bet is badly configured bunks and years of sitting causing hogging leading to the split.
enuct@reddit
most common I've seen in the Midwest is an improperly configured trailer and a neglected boat allowed to fill full of water and freeze. it kind of looks like the back wasn't supported and something like that happened. but sure the same could happen on road, but if that happens like that the boat was already toast.
thebemusedmuse@reddit
But... JB Weld Marine?
liaisontosuccess@reddit
combined with Flex Seal and then Flex Tape over the top perhaps?
Kamikaze-Parrot@reddit
Add an extra layer of Flex Tape for safety and redundancy, and i say you’re good to go.
DFMO@reddit
Sailing subreddit has by far and away the highest number of serious questions getting posted that read entirely like satire I can’t believe it sometimes
Terminal_Prime@reddit
I thought maybe I was in a sailing shitposting subreddit and then I realized I’m not part of a sailing shitposting subreddit.
smootex@reddit
/r/sailingcirclejerk is sadly quiet.
LateralThinkerer@reddit
I'd do that with a reciprocating saw and a dumpster. If you can see this, imagine what else is waiting to be discovered...
gonavy2205@reddit
That’s not worth the cost to actually fix, looks like you’d literally have to reconstruct the whole dang thing to be seaworthy
Ok-Interaction-8891@reddit
I’d start with negotiating your fee for taking their trash boat to the dump.
Go from there.
Upstairs-Lobster3264@reddit
Yes, and Youtube is great source for DIY guides, search "repair large hole in fiberglass boat hull"
vulkoriscoming@reddit
You forgot the /s on your post
dollardave@reddit
Ready for the dumpster
alex1033@reddit
The hull damage is substancial; it's beyond repair.
fireduck@reddit
At first I thought this wasn't a boat but a support under a concrete slab that was clearly a disaster.
My thought was, sure you can DIY that. Go a few hundred meters away and use indirect mortar fire on the building until it is level. Then clear the site and build a new building.
Radiant_Active8927@reddit
Mrkvitko@reddit
How even something like this happens? Falling from the crane?
KirbyCatv@reddit (OP)
don’t worry i didint do this. It was a too good to be true deal online and i asked for pictures.
SorryButterfly4207@reddit
Share the listing, please.
fdnM6Y9BFLAJPNxGo4C@reddit
Were you going to be paid to haul it away?
asm__nop@reddit
Spoiler alert: it is true. And it’s not good.
Rednmrfer@reddit
Yeah there is no deal. This isn't a boat, it's merely, vaguely boat shaped.
Federal_Cobbler6647@reddit
I would suggest that materials will cost more than boat is worth.
SorryButterfly4207@reddit
By about 40 times.
And after he puts 5000 bucks into the boat, it will be still worth 500.
crashorbit@reddit
Anything can be fixed or rebuilt. The question is whether it is worth while or not. It turns out that there are few things more expensive than a free boat.
SorryButterfly4207@reddit
Pro tip - it is never worth it.
Only take on boat repair if that is your hobby. If your hobby is sailing, buy the boat with the least amount of repairs needed.
MischaBurns@reddit
If you do not yet own it, you fix this by walking away and getting a different boat.
If you are the unfortunate possessor of this heap, you ~~sell it to some poor schmuck who thinks they can fix it~~ find out what it's gonna cost to dispose of it, because that's still cheaper than fixing all the many, many problems it hasm
OutlyingPlasma@reddit
It really depends on what you value. Are you looking for a hobby that will consume the next 10+ years? Then sure. Repair this yourself.
If you are looking for a boat to put on the water and play with this is literal garbage. Like put on a mask, grab a grinder and sawzall and start cutting this into bits for the garbage bin.
I'm not really joking here either. Some people, and I might fall into this category a bit, enjoy the work. To quote Rat "there is nothing–absolutely nothing–half so much worth doing as simply messing about with boats"
Raneynickelfire@reddit
Ask for more pictures, because it's impossible to tell what's actually going on here from this pic.
carnalasadasalad@reddit
I would do tha with a sawzall and a rented dumpster
lilyputin@reddit
Well it's fiberglass so it's not a classic boat. It's borked that's a haul away. You might be able to strip any useful parts or things of sentential value off but the hull is toast.
REDDITSHITLORD@reddit
It depends on the boat and what you intend to use it for. Is it a MacGregor Venture 22 that you want to get one last season of gunkhole sailing out of? Hell, yeah! carriage bolt a chunk of marine plywood to the backside, glass over the crack and throw a Walmart bilge pump in it. Otherwise, probably not.
Naive_Adeptness6895@reddit
Velcro, duct tape and gum should do it. Just don’t put it in water.
mrthomasfritz@reddit
As a victim of a "professional repair" with 1/2 inch think stainless reinforcements... on a boat, run!
Damn near killed me and did kill my cat that panicked and hid someplace.
Mad_Oats40@reddit
id saw it in half and then flex seal it back together
EuphoricAd5826@reddit
Just keep looking for a better boat, there’s plenty of great options out there.
mancrog@reddit
100% absolutely not worth repairing at all. She is done for
jkjeeper06@reddit
How much fiberglass experience do you have? It could be repaired but you are going to do a lot of work to get there. Without much experience you are almost guaranteed to fail. If it is a rare boat that is worth saving, go for it. If it is just a "free" project boat, don't touch it
youalreadyare@reddit
Inside picture. What’s the situation inside.
wkavinsky@reddit
No.
unknowingbiped@reddit
Get the two area level to each other grind down maybe 3ft to each side of it and re-laminate the entire area inside and out if possible.