In today’s market, realistically what’s the cheapest build I can do for 60-100fps couch gaming.
Posted by Successful-Roll-9389@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 122 comments
Built my main pc last year before the crazy started. 7800x3d with a 7900xtx so I play my demanding games on that. I’m looking to build something for the living room that I can play single player/coop/emulation games so doesn’t need to be too beefy. The tv is 4K 120hz with gaming mode so ideally I would want to play at least 60fps. Throw me some ideas you fine people!
Thanks!
5kyl3r@reddit
have you considered steam home streaming?
you can literally try it now, power on your gaming rig and open steam
goto your living room and install steam on your ipad or cheap laptop. make sure it's on the same network. you should see your gaming rigs steam installed games list on your tablet or laptop. you can play those while letting the gaming rig do the processing from the other room. this works out of the box with no extensions or plugins or anything. steam just supports this natively
steam used to sell a roku like device with a dedicated gaming controller that used this same techology. i got mine for $1 when they were trying to clear stock after they discontinued it and you might be able to find them still on ebay or marketplace, but really since it works on anything now you can just use a laptop
Successful-Roll-9389@reddit (OP)
Never actually tried this, could be an option. Do you find it laggy? I’ve tried Xbox streaming on my tv and it is awful
TitanTowel@reddit
I found the slight delay incredibly annoying, so I ran an optical hdmi from my main pc through to the TV.
Ze_Secret_Veapon@reddit
I use Sunshine to stream over Ethernet to an old 8700/1080 build - works great. Steam Remote Play was pretty laggy for me, but Sunshine is like 1ms lag.
SekiguchiGenetics@reddit
Came here to recommend the same. It’s especially gratifying if you enjoy tinkering.
agentfrogger@reddit
Sunshine/Apollo are really good for local network streaming. You can also install a client in a lot of TVs, I can connect my controller to my LG tv via bluetooth and kind of play that way; although a dedicated client with a better processor is better ofc
visor841@reddit
From what I've heard as long you have ethernet for at least one side it should be fine. If you can do ethernet for both it should work really well.
Zxz_juggernaut@reddit
Yo, look into steam link, if you buy a shitty pc (you can get away with a old office pc) you stream from your main pc with like 1 ms aditional ping
throwawayyy42069x@reddit
Holy shit, is it really only 1ms? Thats wild
Amazing-Maintenance8@reddit
It's not 1ms total. A good wired connection is between 5-10ms.
LimeGuyTheSlimeGuy@reddit
This is assuming neither the Link nor the source PC are on WiFi. They will need to be hard lined to the router to achieve such low ping.
throwawayyy42069x@reddit
Yeah I figured. Cat5/6 should be enough right?
LimeGuyTheSlimeGuy@reddit
Absolutely.
Zxz_juggernaut@reddit
Yea since it’s run locally
willwork4pii@reddit
Tethered to my cell phone, using an M1 iPad Pro 12.9", I used moonlight to play an entire round of PUBG on my dock at work.
It was insane how great it worked.
5kyl3r@reddit
it wasn't that bad honestly. probably a slight disadvantage for fast fps games like cs, but for most other game types it's perfectly fine. i played doom eternal on my old 12" macbook with intel atom cpu without issue. did that to trick my roommate who said i couldn't run that game (he's technically right but didn't know about steam home streaming)
requires no setup so best thing might be to just try it and see how the lag it. this is a lot better than the xbox remote services since those go out on the internet. i've watched streamers try to use those and it was pretty bad. this is within your home network so it's pretty snappy
MyUshanka@reddit
If you're playing CS on the couch with a controller Steam Home Streaming isn't going to introduce enough lag to matter.
SexBobomb@reddit
Steam Remote is outstanding if you're wired. I had some hiccups on wifi
at this point my "gaming pc" is a mac mini, as my tower (7800XT/5900X) lives behind my TV
jp711@reddit
If both PCs are on Ethernet it's great for most stuff. I stream 4k to my living room PC and have no lag or latency issues
BarnacleMcBarndoor@reddit
It was incredibly laggy for me, but I was doing it off WiFi for my computer and Ethernet on the device streaming the game. If you had Ethernet on all devices it’ll be a bit better.
I did try running an Ethernet cable to my computer and it was better, but still enough lag that I ended up just plugging a gaming laptop into my living room tv for when I wanted to play for that room.
Ironman__BTW@reddit
I used steam stream thing on my steam deck to play helldivers 2 and I gotta say I couldn't notice any input lag
bacon_cake@reddit
My steam stream thing was cool while it worked. But it used to be a fucking ball ache at times; screen tearing, lag, pixelated video, connection issues up the wazoo.
Burgundy_Channel@reddit
This is the way
PerspectiveHaunting2@reddit
I'll second this. My pc is actually in a closet and has a headless plug because I only stream toneither steamdeck or to my TV. My tv has Google as it's OS, so I installed moonlight directly from the app store. It's not quite plug and play, but if you are comfortable with light troubleshooting, this is the way.
nfsmw5@reddit
Stream it on your TV, phone, ipad from main PC. It is done with programs Apollo and Artemis.
Apollo broadcasts your PC, artemis receives it on other devices. No lag, faster than steam link.
Glum-Concert-8359@reddit
I'm gonan be that annoying person that says PS5/Xbox Series X
Dependent_Basis_8092@reddit
As much as I’d like to agree I don’t think there’s a way to play the games on their steam library with those though.
kingbetadad@reddit
It's 900 for a ps5 pro now. There are cheaper options but the lines are all in flux. Fucking garbage AI.
Successful-Roll-9389@reddit (OP)
I did consider this to be honest, especially with gta coming out hopefully this year. With the way the market is, if I can’t get an affordable build I think that will be the best option.
SleepyTurtle345@reddit
Unfortunately especially if you wanna play at 4K hes probably right.
Im sure a 5070 could handle 60 fps 4K with upscaling but thats alot of money for just a living room build over a console lol
Xcissors280@reddit
But will those consoles actually be running anything at 4k 60? I suspect the answer is no or at least not much more than a much cheaper GPU
SleepyTurtle345@reddit
They do. Is it native 4K? No.
WingerRules@reddit
Base PS5 is notoriously blurry at 60fps for many games. Its one of the main reasons they made the Pro.
Xcissors280@reddit
Non native 4K isn’t 4K, do the normal versions of these consoles even have upscaling?
Plenty-Industries@reddit
PS5 Pro has PSSR - Sony's own upscaler version of FSR... with the help of AMD directly for its development.
vanilla PS6 is very likely to have this from the get-go so it'll be a non-issue when it comes to running games at 4K (non-native).
In many instances, rescaling tech can make a game look better than non-native resolutions due to usually being a better overall anti-aliasing than the very commonly used TAA that can make the image look blurry.
Xcissors280@reddit
So the base PS5 non pro does not have that?
Plenty-Industries@reddit
Nope
DreamWeaver2189@reddit
If you want native 4k the 5090 is the only card out there than can give you that reliably. Even the 5080 needs upscaling for some games.
Runnin_Mike@reddit
Not only do they use upscaling but they often sample from a lower resolution than default PC gaming upscaling.
4k isn't possible without upscaling for new games even with a 5090 some times if you want to hit the 80+ fps mark. In some cases even 60 is hard.
Xcissors280@reddit
I mean yeah that’s not particularly surprising
I’d expect a 4090 to be running at something closer to 1440p while a Series S is at like 720p to achieve the same fps
SleepyTurtle345@reddit
Not sure about the series S and normal PS5 but who cares if its native or not… my 5090 isnt doing 4K native im using upscaling and FG in virtually every game lol
Xcissors280@reddit
Except setting your display resolution to 1080p and not using anything else looks like shit
beirch@reddit
That's not how console upscaling works though. Both Xbox and PS5 have AMD upscalers. Xbox and PS5 use FSR 2/3, while PS5 Pro uses PSSR 1/2.
Xcissors280@reddit
Alright that makes more sense
jofijk@reddit
The series s is optimized for gaming at 1440p. There are some games that can run natively at 4k but you only get 60fps. If op wants to be on a tv they should get the series x. I like paying games on a monitor so I have a series s but a buddy has the x and plays on a 60 inch tv and it looks great
T2_daBest@reddit
That's literally the same as using upscaling like dlss on a 5070 to get 4k60
Xcissors280@reddit
But there's a pretty big difference between transformer based upscaling like DLSS and just stretching the pixels of a 1080p or 1440p image
T2_daBest@reddit
They use fsr since they use amd and it also the reason they have quality, balance, or performance as the main settings
SleepyTurtle345@reddit
Quite sure they both have AMD upscalers.
T2_daBest@reddit
And yes they all use upscaling of at least some sort to display at 4k
sabin357@reddit
Yeah, but computer game prices can be discounted much more than consoles, so there is that to factor in as well. If they'll be playing tons of games & using it for more than just gaming, it might be a better value in the long run. All depends.
DreamWeaver2189@reddit
Steam prices and the fact that you can share the games between the main PC and the living room PC.
If they had a console they would have to buy some games twice if he wants to play them both on PC and console.
bluejeansseltzer@reddit
GTA6 might not even come out on PC on launch fwiw. Historically a PC port comes a year later iirc.
b00st3d@reddit
That’s exactly why he said what he said.
thekins33@reddit
The 7900xtx can handle 4k fine you don't need a fucking 5090 or even a 4090 those cards are so ludicrously overpowered people think anything that's slower is somehow not good. I have a 7900xt and it runs most everything at 4k perfectly fine. The only thing amd sucks at is raytracing and no one turns that shit on anyways it runs like hot dogs it even on 4090+ cards.
Azzblack@reddit
One small thing to consider.
If you're planning to play online, factor in monthly costs for PS plus or xbox live.
After going fully PC after the PS4, I really don't miss those fees just to play online.
I also find games to be cheaper on PC, as well as emulation. There isn't much of a second hand market for games where I live now compared to when I was growing up. Most of my games are purchased on sale digitally nowadays.
PixelPete27@reddit
For and affordable 4K gaming setup, I think console is the way.
Keep and eye out for the steam machine release. Comes out sometime this summer.
SpaceyBun@reddit
You should consider it soon, Sony is planning to mark up prices for the PS5 due to hardware component availability, iirc.
SubstanceTimely6790@reddit
Buy a second hand machine, it will be peanuts in comparison and you will save some bucks.
Revenine@reddit
PS5 Pro and wait for GTA6, they are already rising prices. I built my own PC 10+ years ago and mid range build quadrupled in price. No way I am paying that much.
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bio-hazard77@reddit
hi gonan, i'm dad
Insidious_Ursine@reddit
Gonan, what is best in life?
Stunning_Box8782@reddit
Or something used. It's a rough market
b0uncyfr0@reddit
Not for 100 fps though - youll get 60 at compromised gfx settings.
Heinz_Legend@reddit
Blasphemy!
chreechiemayne420@reddit
Moonlight game streaming. I do all my gaming from the couch now. Shoot me a message if you got any questions.
5070ti 98003dx 32gb ram streaming to my 65 inch lg oled c9 via Apple TV hardwired. Getting 60fps 4k if you get an Xbox series x you can do 120fps. Not laggy at all.
DepressedDrift@reddit
Buy a used PC on ebay or marketplace.
YoungEmperorLBJ@reddit
lol I use my 7800x3d + 7900xtx for couch gaming, 4k 120hz tv too
alextpale@reddit
4k is insane on vram, 4090s aren't found anywhere but if your game doesn't need as much you could get a 5070 ti or 5080
Soggy-Airline@reddit
Cheapest I can build, and still do over 60 fps (at 1440p but with FSR) is just under $2000 CAD.
5800XT, B550 ROG Strix Motherboard, Timetec 2x8gb 3200Mhz CL16, Timetec 1tb NVME, Sapphire 9060 XT 16gb, SAMA P1000 Platinum PSU, Corsair 4000D RS Case, Thermalright Peerless Assassin, Thermalright TL-S12W for rear exhaust fan.
definitlyitsbutter@reddit
You get yourself a cheap mini pc, and stream your beefy desktop to the tv...
Successful-Roll-9389@reddit (OP)
After all the comments I think this is my best option 👍
RollyPandaRanger@reddit
I have the same CPU/GPU combo as you, personally I would either consider a console, or if your network works well enough I would stream to the tv.
I have found for streaming I have better results with moonlight & sunshine over steamlink. I have moonlight installed on an nvidia shield which works great and would be the cheapest option by far! Its all super simple to set up, me and my partner have been using it to play through the resident evil remakes and it works perfectly for that, with our set up the input lag is imperceptible to both of us and I tend to notice things like that.
The only downside to streaming is it is dependent on your network setup in your house, but you will just have to try and see.
Absolute cheapest option may be a really long HDMI cable.
losethecloth33@reddit
I recently built a pc build running bazzite with a 5800x, 16gb 3200mhz ddr4, and 7800xt and I can run sm2, H2 and horizon forbidden west at 4k60 high/medium settings and a touch of fsr here and there. Use it for couch gaming on a 65 4k120 oled tv and its been great!
Fredasa@reddit
Couch? That depends on how close it is but the first thing I'd do is find a good "distance vs. resolution" chart (unfortunately, most of them are borked, seemingly calculated to downplay the advantages of a higher resolution). For most couch scenarios, chances are good you won't get anything out of >1080p.
iAmTheDanger991@reddit
Why not plug a long ass HDMI cable from your PC to your living room tv? Using your preffered controller for Big Steam picture mode and boom boom
cuteman@reddit
Not all games are created equal in resource demand.
If you want specific FPS estimates you'd have to name some specific games
TechnoGMNG589@reddit
what would be your budget? this is the deciding factor tbh
also, in my opinion (ignoring budget) if all the games you would want to play are available on a console such as playstation or xbox id personally get one of those
Successful-Roll-9389@reddit (OP)
1000-1200 roughly. Barely gets a gpu and ram these days I know 😂
beirch@reddit
This is what I'd get with your budget:
NOTE: The GPU price is the average (ish) confirmed sale on Ebay.
PCPartPicker Part List
All new parts except for the GPU. It just makes a lot of sense to buy a used GPU in this market.
The 4070 Super is my top pick with your budget, if you prefer DLSS. If you don't care and don't mind using Optiscaler to get FSR 4, I'd get a 7800 XT. 16GB vs 12GB VRAM and they're pretty much identical in raster performance.
I have used a 7800 XT with a 4K TV myself for a while, and it's a pretty good experience. Not flawless, but nothing short of a 5090 will be at 4K. Optiscaler is easy to use and FSR 4 works very well on a 7800 XT. The performance hit vs FSR 3 is negligible; something like 2-5%.
The other advantage of buying used is that sometimes you'll stumble on an extremely good deal, like the 7900 XT I got for $400 after I'd had the 7800 XT for a while.
Other options include the 9060 XT, 5060 Ti and 5070. They're all viable options; FSR 4 really is very good compared to FSR 3, but DLSS 4 (and 4.5) is still just one notch above, and I would probably get the 5060 Ti over the 9060 XT. The 5070 is just outside your budget, and I'm not sure it's worth it over a 4070 Super.
On the CPU: The 12600K(F) is honestly still a powerhouse for gaming. I have a 12700F in one of my TV rigs, and they perform about the same. Never had a single issue with bottlenecking at 4K. If you want integrated graphics you'll have to get a 12600K, but it's $25 more. I've never had a single issue with F version CPUs, and if you have an old GPU lying around you can troubleshoot with that if needed. Consider looking for used CPUs as well; it's very rare that CPUs fail.
Motherboard: Cheapest I could find with decent VRMs, power phase and cooling. Two M.2 slots, WiFi. All you could want.
On the RAM: 16GB is still enough for just gaming in 99.9% of cases. I think I've seen literally one or two titles that struggle a little bit with 1% lows at 16GB. You could jump up to 32GB for $80. It's slightly better value over 16GB as well.
Cooler is just a cheap, solid brand. Thermalright make awesome products, and this single tower double fan is more than enough for a 12600K.
Case: I went for an mATX case since it's a TV build. Jonsbo make great cases.
PSU: B tier on the SPL Tier list, 80+ gold, $70, 'nuf said.
I leave you only with a warning: Gaming at 4K is a constant struggle of wanting more. You will always have that nagging feeling of "if I just upgraded my GPU one tier I would get a little smoother gameplay". I bought an OLED TV in 2024 and decided to build a PC number two out of old parts just for some emulator gaming on the new TV. Started out with a GTX 1070 and a 9400F, which soon turned into a 3060 Ti and Ryzen 7500F, which then turned into an RX 6800, then 7800 XT, and then finally 7900 XT.
All of the GPUs were used, and all of them were deal hunted, so in total I think I spent ~$400 cause I made money on some of them. So not a disaster, but just be aware you will probably never be satisfied. I would urge you to try to find used deals if you want upgrades. It's really fun seeing how cheap you can make your second rig better.
Agreeable-Revenue-75@reddit
If OP is near a microcenter they have a 7500x3d/mobo/16GB DDR5 combo for $299. Which is basically the only change I would make to that list. The 4070 super is a great card-it has faster clock speeds than the 5070, the only benefit is 5070 has faster memory & mfg. I had one and only upgraded to a 5070 ti because I got a good enough deal on it and was able to sell the 4070S for $500.
rustypete89@reddit
PCPartPicker Part List
I spun this up for you. 6950 XT and Montech prices are current value, you'd have to look on the used market for the GPU and probably sub in a different SFX PSU. The main thing driving the cost up for this build currently is completely out-of-whack RAM/storage prices. But it's achievable for your budget if you can swing some deals/already have storage or RAM available.
rustypete89@reddit
If you can afford to spend this much, you can build a PC akin to the one listed in my comment. I recommend you check it out, my build fits in my TV stand, is incredibly inconspicuous, and does everything I need - for less than what you listed.
brennaAM@reddit
For that price, getting to (native) 4K120 probably isn't happening but if you don't mind upscaling*^f and happen to be near a Microcenter:
Their $300 7500X3D bundle + a used RTX 2070 Super or AMD RX 5800 XT for ~$150 (on ebay), SSD capacity of your choice maybe around $200-$300, MATX case (I recently went with the Jonsbo Jonsplus Z20, great IMO for ~$100), power supply (~$80-100) wouldn't be terrible for an estimated total of ~$950 (assuming you go with a higher capacity SSD). You'd have some wiggle room to get a better mobo bundle or newer GPU.
Biggest downside to that microcenter bundle is that it's single channel memory, but in my (anecdotal) experience isn't the end of the world.
Or, sleuth /r/buildapcsales for a few months and pray you manage to wait out a good deal on a prebuild
*^f (which, if you're considering just waiting for a Steam Machine, you'd likely be doing anyway)
TechnoGMNG589@reddit
Is this in dollars?
Successful-Roll-9389@reddit (OP)
Maybe I’ll just wait for steam machine or the steam os Xbox
LiamEgil@reddit
i connected my main PC to my TV in the living room with a 15 meter HDMI cable and got a wireless keyboard to keep in the living room
Granted i only did this to have the ability to use my TV. ive had the TV for 4 years and its been used 2 times when ive been too hungover to sit at my PC
PiotrekDG@reddit
Add a USB repeater alongside that HDMi cable, connect a wireless/Bluetooth adapter to that end, and you've got a TV setup.
sims_antle@reddit
exactly what I have at home.
4k rig in my office driving my displays there
4k tv in my living room.
displayfusion to easily swap between the two.
works really well
Runnin_Mike@reddit
I have my desk PC routed through fiber optic hdmi and USB over ethernet to different rooms in my house. I would argue that's probably the cheapest way to do this if you can handle either cable concealers or fishing the wire yourself through a crawl space. Then you only have to have one PC.
Another option that's just as affordable is running an ethernet to the living room and having a moonlight client, but I had a lot of bugs with this so it led me to the first option.
The above option will require you to make some scripts that use display fusion to make sure the display is set correctly as primary and what not but it's godly once you get it going. My PC launches like a console when I paired it with a universal remote and scripting.
DeusXNex@reddit
Maybe wait to see how much the steam machine will be? Honestly based on its specs I don’t know if it’ll be capable of 4k 60 fps. You’re gonna need a pretty beefy pc. I would just do what someone else said and get the ps5 pro. Price hike is unfortunate but it’s probably the cheapest option still
WizardMoose@reddit
If you're wanting a dedicated couch gaming rig, it typically costs about the same as doing a main rig. If you're doing 4k that's where you'll have issues. You could swap your 7900xtx and use that in your living room rig, but then you're dishing out a lot to replace your main rig's GPU.
So altogether, I'd just say get a console.
Or look into streaming your games to your living room TV. There's 2 main apps, I forget the name, but someone might be able to give some info on it. I know the apps are sun and moon related in the name.
Successful-Roll-9389@reddit (OP)
Has anyone tried hdmi extenders for wireless streaming?
PiotrekDG@reddit
Get an optical HDMI cable and a USB repeater with BT/wireless adapter and you're good to go.
paulganic@reddit
Hi! A wireless hdmi extender of decent quality will set you back a few hundred $$$. I’ve set it up on my LG TV using a selfhosted LAN/WAN solution: sunshine+moonlight. I’ll upd the response
sims_antle@reddit
In my house my office is probably 40-50 feet away from my living room. I ran fiber hdmi and USB cables through my crawlspace to the living room connected to my TV and a USB hub where i have a second set of peripherals. I use a software called display fusion to swap between outputs to my living room and office. Works really well tbh
VoidNinja62@reddit
You can upscale 1080p to 4k on FSR just fine.
You'd only need an RX 9060 XT 16GB to game in 4k, legit.
Like I can game in 4k upscaled for under 200 watts using Ryzen 5800XT and RX 6650 XT.
RX 9060 XT is just higher clocked shaders and ram. On FSR4 you'd get like 80-100 FPS in 4k upscaled from 1080p easy.
These people with 200w CPUs and 300w GPUs, gaming for 600w like a space heater next to you, just to run 1440P at marginally better quality, make me laugh.
NewestAccount2023@reddit
A 5090 gets 50 fps in triple games at 4k no upscaling
Successful-Roll-9389@reddit (OP)
I think I’ll pass on a 5090 I don’t wanna sell all my belongings 😂
bp1976@reddit
As someone who does PC gaming on a 4k OLED 77" TV with a controller because that is how I enjoy playing games, if you want 4k native and those kind of frame rates you need a 5090. Especially if you are playing modern titles, want ray tracing, etc.
I am currently playing Death Stranding 2 and with all the settings cranked at 4k with all of the Ray Tracing on, I am getting 80-100 FPS with DLSS Quality. And that is with a 9800x3d and a 5090.
Don't get me wrong it looks and feels fucking amazing but my setup cost me nearly 5k and I built before the bubble. I could sell my rig now for nearly twice what I paid for it LOL.
Corniator@reddit
Yea, but the point he is making is that 4K at 100 fps in modern title is "top of the line most expensive gold and diamond plated toilets" territory. In your post you say that you want something that is not "too beefy" but can run games on 4k 60-100 fps. This is why most answers are vague, suggest somehow streaming using your main rig or buying a console. Of course the consoles can't do that native either, you can get similar performance with a PC, but it will be slightly pricier.
This is a pretty decent basic video on the kind of performance you can currently get for around 1000$: https://youtu.be/z5sFXVIFkas
VanWesley@reddit
I would look into streaming. Either with something like apollo+artemis, sunshine+moonlight, or heck even Steam's built in streaming feature. The client device can be anything from a cheap office or mini PC, to even just an android box.
hotrodman21@reddit
Look into a Program called "Moonlight" on your Smart Platform Appstore of choice.
Install Sunshine on your main PC rig.
Get the two to handshake with one another.
I can play my PC from any room in the house, with TV's on WiFi (Make sure you get an Xbox Series Controller with Bluetooth connectivity to that television.) at 1440p with a micro-stutter once every twenty minutes on a 70 dollar TP-Link Router on 5Ghz WiFi. Not even WiFi 6.
rustypete89@reddit
I built an SFF PC for exactly this that would leverage my 4k TV. The core of it:
5800X3D 6950 XT Montech Gold+ 750W SFF PSU 32 (?) GB DDR4 3600 MHz (kinda hazy on this one it might be 16) Case: Fractal Design Ridge
I'm able to run most modern games at pretty high fidelity and still clear 60 FPS, obviously with limitations regarding raytracing, but I'm okay with that.
wsteelerfan7@reddit
Here's the best I can come up with near your price range:
PCPartPicker Part List
Snakefishin@reddit
Facebook marketplace can get you a console for like $350
Cefer_Hiron@reddit
Considering upscalling, even the xx60 series can run 4k/60
My 5060ti is running RDR2 in 4k Ultra Settings upscalled from 1080p at stable 70fps, for example
changen@reddit
5500+2060super. Pricing depends entirely on how you source parts.
horizon936@reddit
If you don't care about lower settings, a 9700X 5060 Ti 16gb would do.
If you want to max out your settings and saturate the 120hz with FGx2 - 7800x3d + 5070 Ti. Technically, a 9070XT can do that too, but you'll get Path Tracing and more reliable upscaling and frame gen support on the Nvidia.
You'll use DLSS 4.5/RR Performance but don't worry - it looks real fine. Even the 5090 has to use DLSS at 4k.
PsyOmega@reddit
Don't go crazy for 60hz-100hz.
Grab a used dell SFF from ebay. i5-8500 or i5-10500, or i5-12500. i3-12100 is a good cheap alternative as well and holds up VERY well for basic gaming.
Make sure the PC has an internal GPU plug and a decent PSU rating.
Then just add a RX6600, RX7600, 4060, or 5060 to it.
ByteAxon@reddit
If you are gonna emulate u will need a strong CPU depending on what platform u are trying to emulate for 60-100FPS 5060ti 16GB should be more than enough if u tweak the settings and is not everything on max
outrightbrick@reddit
Been really surprised at what my old x99 xeon setup can do gaming running CachyOS
ohgoody1129@reddit
I’m going to get banned for this, but how about a base M4 Mac Mini and Crossfire? Unbeliavable small and powerful, at a great price too. I’m not sure what kind of games you consider chilling, but I play Dota 1 and WoW on mine (full storage tho) and they run just fine. So, if it’s below that in terms of specs, might want to do a research on it.
zabraautra@reddit
Check out apollo+moonlight/artemis . r/cloudygamer
Craig_Dem_@reddit
I use moonlight to stream from my main PC (7600x + 7900 XT) to a “steam machine” running bazzite made up of my old PC parts (Intel 6600k cpu) and a used 6500 XT GPU I got from a electronics resale shop.
It works almost perfectly for this (no AV1, only H265), although I’m praying for a new Apple TV with 4K120Hz just so I have less boxes in my living room.
If I didn’t have my old parts I’d just buy a mini pc with at least a 680m GPU then use that.
This gives me 4K120 with FSR on quality and some settings turned down from ultra to high/medium.
Glum-Concert-8359@reddit
Another thought that may not be pragmatic, is a very long HDMI cable
BIeamer@reddit
MiniPC or a tablet hooked up to TV and use Steam Link, its the cheapest option and works pretty good, it can even be an old pc you got laying around, as long as you can install Steam it will work!
Entire_Ad_6447@reddit
Honestly depending on the quality of your home Internet you could very very reasonably just through a mini PC there and stream
ellie_yes_@reddit
9060XT 16GB / 7700x combo would be good enough.
DarvinostheGreat@reddit
I think streaming your main PC to your living room TV would just be the best option for you and much cheaper.