WTH happening to my gun safe. I was gone for 3 days and came back to this.
Posted by Senior_Hovercraft_33@reddit | Firearms | View on Reddit | 164 comments
Can someone possibly identify what’s going on here? These guns are used multiple times weekly, cleaner then most from how much I train with them.
I was gone for 3 days and decided to grab my handgun out before bed and my light hit all of these with this crazy brown/red powder residue I can wipe off.
For the record that mossberg barrel should be black.
There is no way it can be rust, I keep my safe dry and keep a couple big packs of Silva gel in it.
First thought was rust because the older moss berg had most of it, but my brand new precision rifle barrel was covered as well and had a little bit on the other few barrels and metal parts. Can keeping anything in your safe do this? I just keep valuables, ammo and mags.
MosesHightower@reddit
Desiccant and oil are your friend, in large quantities.
HellcatRNG@reddit
Huh, do you have ANY moisture traps in there? I don't know where you live but it could have gotten humid enough to cause moisture into the safe to cause the start of rust.
Senior_Hovercraft_33@reddit (OP)
I have 2 big ass Deccidant pouches in there as well
Substantial_Two_8615@reddit
move to Utah, it worked for me
Da_hoodest_hoodrat@reddit
My house in Arizona is at a crispy 25% humidity right now😂 When I moved here I had a nose bleed for a week because it was so dry
sinsofcarolina@reddit
I live on the east coast and every time I fly out west my nose is on fire for a day or two. Man it’s nice to not get sweat down from 90% humidity even in the shade though.
bmm115@reddit
As I get older, I dislike the East Coast more and more climate wise. Humidity leads to humidity where you don't want humidity.
TechnicallyLiterate@reddit
my friend (woman) says humidititty's are the worst. Hates boob sweat
mrapplewhite@reddit
Mmmmm Mountain Dew
bmm115@reddit
Me too, me too
XAngelxofMercyX@reddit
I swear my damn nose wouldn't stop bleeding for half a year when I first moved out here. Twas sucky indeed.
GunsAndWrenches2@reddit
The biggest thing I miss about AZ is spending all day out in the desert blasting corrosive ammo and not giving a damn about cleaning.
Marko1st@reddit
Same. But add in dry cracked skin on the hands and face. Never even opened a bottle of lotion before moving here. Now I have several
TacTurtle@reddit
How often do you recharge or change them?
Senior_Hovercraft_33@reddit (OP)
I haven’t yet actually I’ve only had the safe for like 2-3 months and didn’t think I’d have to switch them out yet
1Crusty_Old_Man@reddit
When was the last time you recharged them?
YoimAtlas@reddit
There are electric dehumidifiers made specifically for gun safes id look into that
cmm324@reddit
They fill up with moisture and you have to bake them every so often to make them usable again.
HybridP365@reddit
How long have they been in there? They don't last forever, you need to replace or recharge them.
If you live in a humid area they won't be enough anyways. You need a real dehumidifier or at least a goldenrod.
These also look dry as fuck. You need a light layer of oil/CLP on them to prevent rust. Spray a rag with CLP and wipe them down monthly.
the_duck17@reddit
Buy the Eva Air rechargeable ones. I have two and the pellets turn from clear to blue when they're saturated with moisture, plug it in and in a few hours it'll be dried off and put it back in the safe.
Guano-@reddit
Sounds like they released their moisture back. This is a draw back of these, they have to be dried out regularly or changed. I have never used one in my safe as my indoor humidity is low.
BoozeHammer710@reddit
Switch them out bro.
d3rp_diggler@reddit
I have silicone treated gun socks I put everything in. Every 3 months Id run them in the dryer and re-treat them. Kept my guns rust free even when I lived in swampland.
Mturtle9@reddit
In Florida - safe in humid location in house; I use a ‘Golden Rod’. 13 years everything is perfect, never replaced the rod. I also had one of those large desiccant packs, recharged monthly in oven - stopped using after two years because the rod took care of it and it was too much effort. I just check the rod by touching it to make sure it’s still functioning.
Not sure of the generic brands.
OverSizeLife@reddit
Too much humidity inside your safe, put new silica packets inside or get a dehumidifier put in
Own-Particular6321@reddit
That's rust. You need to swap those silica packs out, clean your guns and make sure it's not corroding anything inside, and then oil everything up good before putting it back.
dreadnaughtfearnot@reddit
Also, install a powered dehumidifier rod.
MCE85@reddit
My dad has the rod, packs and some other device and last tome i went to look at the guns just about every one had rust. Only had this safe for a little over a year
Rebel-665@reddit
I know a lot swear by the rod but, it just makes it so the water is attracted to the rod then heats it and makes it into humidity that circles in the safe especially near the top. Silica pacs actually grab the water and hold it until you eventually remove it later on. With the golden rod you need some sort of air flow to push out the gathered humidity in the safe.
Laser-Blaster-123@reddit
I run a golden rod and no issues with rust, if there is THAT much humidity in your safe that its creating condensation on the rod you need to reevaluate your storage methods
XmentalX@reddit
Also get a hydrometer if the humidity is high inside the safe you may need to take more action or change out / recharge the packs more often
Robobble@reddit
Idk if that was autocorrect but it’s hygrometer. Trying to spread knowledge not be a dick!
XmentalX@reddit
no it is appreciated it was autocorrect :-)
Senior_Hovercraft_33@reddit (OP)
This is after he installed the rod and everything or all of that didn’t even work?
MCE85@reddit
All of that in tandem didnt work. Many of my firearms are in the same safe so i was definotely not thrilled. Im thinking the silicone pack was old but still.
Laser-Blaster-123@reddit
You can get surface rust dust after a humid day!
This is why you oil your guns before you put them away.
WombatAnnihilator@reddit
Shit be m o i s t
Topgun127@reddit
Maybe use gun oil instead of just cleaner, to help preserve the finish, most cleaners strip the carbon, gunk, and oils from the gun, then you need to re-oil the metal so it won’t rust….
elindemann89@reddit
I live in Michigan, decently humid in the summers. I have 2 afloia desiccant cans and a golden rod going in my safe. The golden rod keeps the safe at around 75 degrees year round. The desiccant cans in the winter keep it at about 20-22% and I hardly have to recharge them ever. In the summer I have to recharge them pretty frequently. Like every couple of days or so and I think I average around 45% humidity. So every few days I take them out and put them on their little base and it dries them out in like a hour or two and then throw them back in. In the summer sometimes I run a third afloia cartridge, I have two bases so I can dry two at a time. But you can find them on Amazon pretty cheaply. What type of safe you have also makes a difference too I guess. I started out with a smaller 24 gun Winchester safe that didn’t have power in it and I tried to get a handle on it and it was tough, when I outgrew that one I specifically wanted one that had power in side and the golden rod has really made a world of difference for me personally. Also where it’s located in your house makes a difference too, what it’s sitting on, is there a air gap underneath, does it sit in direct sun light, out in a humid garage or a damp basement.
imuniqueaf@reddit
The guns I don't use regularly are in airtight bags with silica packs. The guns I use regularly are used regularly which means they are cleaned and lubed regularly.
mdhkc@reddit
Get your firearms cerakoted… it’s a full proof rust stopper.
GesuMotorsport@reddit
Maybe im anal retentive but i keep an oil rag with me in my range bag and ill wipe everything down before bed with it lmao
GoatUSA47@reddit
What is the humidity level in your house? You might need a real dehumidifier.
Bank_Gothic@reddit
This. I live in Houston and desiccant packs weren’t enough. I had to buy one of those little dehumidifying bars. Problem solved.
Tactically_Fat@reddit
Just a note - those aren't really dehumidifiers. They're warmers that keep the ambient temp in the safe high enough to prevent condensation.
In your soupy air in Houston - I'd also probably invest in a real dehumidifier to really remove the moisture from inside the safe.
Bank_Gothic@reddit
Yeah, but less room for guns then.
Either way, the bar has worked for several years now. You're probably right about a real dehumidifier, but if it ain't broke...
Tactically_Fat@reddit
Oh...I totally get it!
We have humid summers here. But not as humid as yours. But we also get quite dry in the winters.
A Rural King "golden rod" is working well for me...for now.
Ghost_Hemi_392@reddit
☝🏼This is the way
Yep, Houston is a humidity trap. Our AC systems work so hard, but they can realistically only remove up to 50% the relative humidity that's in the air outside. And that's relative humidity, so if it's 90° outside and 86% humidity you have to remember what that relative humidity is like 50% less whenever your house is cooled down to 73° or 70°.
Dew point calculator is our (my) best friend.
Something else that works in a pinch, is you can get a burlap sack, or whatever size, and fill it with white rice.
Also, and this is not necessarily towards your comment, but if anyone smokes cigars. Those humidity packs. Whenever they get old, you can throw them in an old cigar box that's not being used and they get hard as a rock, they will actually soak up some humidity. So then when you've got a big handful of those hard humidifier packs, they can work in reverse way as well . Just cut the top layer of them. Open and peel them and they will absorb moisture out of the air. (Just gotta remember to take them out after a couple of days)
I hate humidity, like really freaking hate it if you can't tell.
Eastern_Control4375@reddit
Oils from skin / hands are coroding on top of a barrel ....clean all very very good
Zestyclose-Sun-6595@reddit
I'm going home and oiling all of my firearms after work today because of this post lol.
Senior_Hovercraft_33@reddit (OP)
Apparently that was one of my biggest mistakes. These guns get cleaned like twice weekly from how much I shoot.
Zestyclose-Sun-6595@reddit
Some coatings seem to rust easier than others. I've got a mossberg 500 that'll rust if I breathe on it too heavily. But yeah I generally use EZox to protect from rust. Haven't had any issues yet as it leaves a protective film once dried.
PaysOutAllNight@reddit
That's definitely rust. You probably have a lot more moisture trapped in the felt lining of your safe than you think you have. The cold surfaces of the steel safe walls can condense moisture that you'll never see, especially if the safe is sitting on a concrete floor. Doubly so if the slab is in contact with moist ground.
I buy silica gel beads in bulk, bag it in cotton satchels, put more than I think I need in each location, then recharge and rotate them monthly. I probably have more than enough to fill a 5 gallon bucket now. It's cheap insurance against corrosion. Since I started doing that, I haven't seen so much as a pinprick of rust on my guns.
It looks like you need to do this, too.
Unlikely-Flounder-91@reddit
Make sure your Safe is sealed completely , I did a smoke test a long time ago to make sure everything was air tight. They sell smoke machines on amazon a they don’t have to be the big ones. Turn it on and have the door cracked open a bit so the smoke builds and than shut the door. But everyone is talking about the rod and the packs and all that . It’s all up to you what you want but I had a rod for years and than I switched to this other thing called Peet Dryer and for me it has worked great. Some of my expensive lever action boom sticks I also put em in the long socks 🧦. The packs or anything you have to put in an oven and all that I think it’s a pain in the behind but this or even the rod you plug and forget about it. Make sure everything is sealed. Oil those bad boys up and they’ll be good as new. They do have stuff you can put on for preventative measures. Google anything and always read comments. Good Luck
Dependent-Water-8084@reddit
Humidity is getting the air in there all stanky and wet wherever you’re living. Oil them up and use a recommended way dehumidify a gun case like other users are saying in this sub.
mmmmmarty@reddit
Is your home always so humid? If so, I'd bet you have other issues too!
jimmy_leonard1@reddit
Put your safe in a climate controlled area. A/C in the summer and heat in the winter. Where on earth do you live?!
HaroldTheSloth84@reddit
I live in Indiana, but due to space and structural issues, I had to put my safe in our detached garage. I had my guns dripping in oil, installed a dri-rod, etc., but nothing helped the rust growth until I finally bought a proper room dehumidifier in the garage. Depending on your environment, you may have to resort to this. Some environments are just too humid.
And if your safe is in a basement as well, you need to be just as wary. I have family members who got rusty guns from storing them in the basement
Somersetkyguy@reddit
safes pull in moisture. you have to have something to remove it. search moisture absorber on amazon. you will see little plastic tubs that pull moisture from the air. usually cheaper at dollar type stores.
liberaltearsfall@reddit
I use those silicon infused gun socks and copious dessicant packs.
nonamenoname123123@reddit
looks like months of rust or 2 days in south Florida .
SwanMuch5160@reddit
Or one day in Southern Georgia. Went hog hunting, put my rifle in its case that evening, got home late the next day and went to clean my rifle only to find browning surface rust on the whole rifle. It came off but gave me a bit of a scare either way.
eli2321@reddit
Can confirm the two days in south Florida timeline. Even less if you saltwater duck hunt. The minute it leaves the dry bag the process begins.
Senior_Hovercraft_33@reddit (OP)
It’s wild because we had a snowstorm/rain showers while I was gone for that 3 days. About to make my house dryer then the Sahara.
Your3rdFriend@reddit
Those barrels are parkerized, which is a porous finish that’s meant to be oiled, with no airflow, moisture can collect and just sit on the surface which makes perfect rusting conditions
Birdmans14@reddit
I have a dessicant bucket inside my safe
gRimey556@reddit
First get a humidity reader so you can see how much extreme swings you have throughout the seasons. Second by Desi Pak's this will help soak up a bunch of moisture and after they do trap moisture you can put them in the oven for around 200° to dry them out. Third always run a coat of 0w-20 Mobil 1 over your phosphate or non-coated barrels once in awhile.
Need4Carz@reddit
Not enough moisture traps or too high humidity in the house, probably both. Get some active desiccant setups for this. Also since that's powder that's just surface rust, but definitely wipe them down again.
Stack_Silver@reddit
I use a microwave rechargeable dehumidifier pack.
It is easier than the plug-in ones or buying new ones.
ArceusTwoFour_Zero@reddit
Always keep your firearms coated with a layer of oil or ballistol. And get one of those dehumidifier things, like a eva dry dehumidifier. It keeps my gun safe dry and I plug it into my wall once or twice a month for the dehumidifier to dry out again.
Senior_Hovercraft_33@reddit (OP)
Ok any other suggestions to tackle this besides dehumidifier and more gel packs??
under--no--pretext@reddit
wipe everything down with one of these Hoppe's silicone rags
gkarsten@reddit
I agree with the comments saying to put a protective oil over any areas that can rust. I personally use Eezox as a rust preventative. It will provide a protective barrier that remains dry.
jerkstor@reddit
I use some stuff called Barricade. I love it
mikemitch38@reddit
Harbor freight sells these little contraptions called “damp raid”. They work much better than standard silica packets.
blueskycarver@reddit
You mean Damp Rid? Home Depot, Walmart, Amazon etc all have them - you need to empty out the water they collect and refill them on the regular, every couple of months
hafetysazard@reddit
Accidentally spill some of that goo in your safe, you’re going to have a really bad time.
blueskycarver@reddit
Agree 100%. I use them outside the safe with regular desiccants inside
ServoIIV@reddit
Buy a hygrometer and put it in or near your safe. It's like a thermometer but tells you the humidity level. You can get one at any big box home improvement store for $5 or less. You may also need a dehumidifier if your room humidity is too high. You may have a bigger moisture problem and not even realize it. Depending on where you are this time of year can be rough for in home humidity. If it's a nice in between temperature your HVAC system probably isn't running much which can make the problem worse.
HybridP365@reddit
Oil. Dry guns rust.
TubeSockLover87@reddit
Silicone spray, there are several brands. Just spray it. Silicone has the added benefit of not degrading rubber.
TOKING-TONZ@reddit
Oil your guns and invest in silica packets OR get yourself a safe dehumidifier
13NeverEnough@reddit
This. Every time I buy something that has silica packets I throw them in the safe
alltheblues@reddit
My guy that’s definitely some light surface rust. You might need to dry out your desiccant packs or get new ones. Also, oil these rust prone areas with something, maybe something better than basic hoppes.
gkarsten@reddit
I specially use Eezox for rust prevention
https://a.co/d/0fJQSbe6
CrispE@reddit
Golden rod! I have one and never have issues. It’s humid where I am too.
SaintEyegor@reddit
This exactly! I’ve had zero rust issues with a golden rod in my safe.
BlueOrb07@reddit
Humidity
cshark13@reddit
I recommend getting a block of Camphor
donkula232323@reddit
It's moist inside it, and your guns don't have any oil on them. Get some silica packs, and when you clean your guns leave more oil on them.
marksman1023@reddit
Moist
Im40ozToFreedom@reddit
Im actually amazed at the lack of condescending remarks about this. Ive seen far less deserving posts get obliterated in the comments plenty
Wooden-Sprinkles7901@reddit
Right? Its clearly rust. How does one make it to adulthood and not know what rust looks like?
WhatABadTimeline@reddit
Looks like pollen to me. My guess is that your gun got tree fucked last time at the range and you didn't notice before putting them away.
Granted, I'm colorblind and it looks kind of yellow to me. Other folks saying it's rust might be right, but the outside of my truck looks exactly like your guns right now.
Baddy-Smalls@reddit
Humidity, you need a dehumidifier in the case. I loaded my safe with descant packets to avoid this.
UseACoasterJeez@reddit
Another possible cause is that your "safe" is actually a Residential Security Container, like most purchased from sporting goods, gun, or big box stores.
Virtually all RSCs simply have sheets of drywall between the inner and outer steel walls, and cheap MDF on the interior for mounting the lining. The drywall and the MDF can both off-gas formaldehyde into the RSC, making corrosion even worse when humid. Here's one article to start, but search around, there are a lot: https://thegunzone.com/can-a-gun-safe-with-formaldehyde-be-fixed/
Real safes are extremely heavy, and very expensive. For one that can hold long guns, probably $15,000 to start these days. But they have much better protection, actual fireproofing that will protect important paper as your house spends two hours burning down around them, and UL ratings for how many minutes it takes a pro with power tools to cut into them (like UL-T30 means it would take someone with a carbide saw or drill 30 minutes of time with the tool on the safe, not including breaks, to cut an 8" hole to remove the contents). At the very top end, also how much explosives it will resist (IIRC, the top UL rating resists six charges of 8oz of Nitroglycerine, but you're talking $60-70,000 plus but those kinds of safes, they are really meant for jewelry & precious metal stores).
chris782@reddit
I've had all sorts of safes from sporting goods stores and never had an issue with them. You don't need to spend 15k on a gun safe, that is not realistic for a vast majority of people and is honestly ridiculous. If you've got enough to worry about people trying to get into your stuff with explosives you probably have bigger issues to worry about. Op needs to oil their guns, run a dehumidifier, and use desiccant, not worry about spending enough for a good used car on a safe.
BigCountryBallistics@reddit
Your humidity has gone up. #0000 steel wool and a coat of oil the surface rust will be gone.
AustinFlosstin@reddit
I keep mine posted up on a secret wall, I feel like safes eat people’s guns even with all the extras that are suppose to stop rust.
Key_Drawer_1516@reddit
I had a similar issue. I had an air purifier that produced ozone. It worked well, but it would irritate my sinuses if it was on for 2-3 days. I left it on when I went away for a week and came back to all my firearms and reloading equipment, looking like this.
Humidity was definitely not my issue due to having 2 dehumidifiers and it was in January. Home was at 25%
aluminumqueso@reddit
Golden rod. Also drywall safes are shitty and corrosive.
AlltheLights11011@reddit
Shawty wet wet
RailLife365@reddit
Plenty of others have gone over humidity, but I wonder about your cleaning process. Are you oiling them when you clean them? If not, then that's a big issue. Even the slightest amount of humidity (think 15% relative humidity) will cause surface rust without oil.
To clarify, I'm not talking about a slippery, dripping layer. Just a cloth with a little bit of oil, almost dry, rubbed over all the main surfaces will make a world of difference in prolonging the life of your firearms.
Kindly_Region@reddit
Get yourself a gun safe dehumidifier rod (it needs plugged it) and anytime your guns will be stored for a while, wipe them down with a silicon cloth. Everything metal, plastic, and wood. It will keep it nice. A little gun oil works to, I just like the silicon. I think it works better.
Pull out the guns every 6 months or so and give them a quick wipe. If this happened in 3 days, you might want to move your safe. That's a lot of humidity, did you put away a gun wet by any chance?
TarsoBackMarquez@reddit
Dollar Tree Moisture Absorbers
xxmadshark33xx@reddit
That looks like rust. Clean and oil them. Then get a larger silica canister and a heating rod if your safe has power, also Get a dehumidifier for that room. If it’s that humid in there chances are other things are slowly getting ruined too.
disastrous_affect163@reddit
DeHumidifier is the answer 👍
AD3PDX@reddit
“Fireproof” “gun safes” are a scam.
Avoid anything which uses drywall / sheetrock which unfortunately is 98% of the market.
This is why drywall is used.
1) It allows an essentially fake claim to be made about fire resistance. The claim is essentially fake because the way drywall works in a safe if by containing moisture which the fire turns into chemical laced steam. The steam fills the inside of the safe and keeps even hotter air from the fire out.
If the fire is really short and cools down really fast then your guns have merely been exposed to a caustic steam bath…. though you won’t really know whether the temps after the steam bath got hot enough to permanently weaken the metal of the explosion containment device you press against your cheek
2) it’s a cheap way to add weight and bulk to make a thin sheet metal box seem like a safe.
3) by keeping customers focused on meaningless “features” like number and size of fake bolt caps on allthread boltwork, paint, fire “ratings” they won’t focus on things which would cause competition to reduce profits (like thickness of steel)
Fauropitotto@reddit
Are you a bot? What does this have to do with OP?
AD3PDX@reddit
OP’s issue is common and oil, silica, & heating rods are just copying strategies for storing our guns in a boxes that are literally moist by design.
HiveTool@reddit
You left them unattended for 3 days? They probably got out and did a bunch of bad stuff in the rain
civilized_starfish@reddit
It’s surface rust. Your guns are dry and the humidity is high. Oil and scotch bright with remove all the rust. Leave a nice layer of oil after and start monitoring the humidity level.
RiveredNuts@reddit
Are those sigs?
AlphaTangoFoxtrt@reddit
How humid was it in that safe? 2 days shouldn't be doing that unless you had no oil on the guns and it was like 80%+
raider1v11@reddit
Id get a goldenrod. The packs aren't going to work or will be a huge hassle to keep up with.
airmech1776@reddit
My old roommate kept his gun safe in his bedroom. The fan in the attached bathroom didn't work well, so he started showering with the door open. Guns started rusting immediately.
JelCapitan@reddit
https://a.co/d/03CHmf3k Give these a try
chewedgummiebears@reddit
What oil do you use for the outsides of your guns, they look dry in the photos.
PictureElegant3033@reddit
Dam. Better clean those up. Get a good CLP. Widely available.
tykaboom@reddit
Hornady dessicant pack, big one, maybr two if you have no wood.
Cycle them in the oven to dry them back out.
jd3v@reddit
You need to oil your guns after you clean them. Also, consider zerust products. They make pucks for small containers (like a desiccant package) and bags specifically for guns.
Mekanikol@reddit
After just a few days? You need to check the humidity levels in your house. As others have said, desiccant and closet dehumidifiers work wonders but you have to maintain them as well.
Wooden-Quit1870@reddit
Are you using Frog Lube?
It turns brown with time.
FarmerLurtz@reddit
Best thing I did was buy a nice room dehumidifier. Keeps my entire firearm office room at proper humidity. Don't have to worry about anything rusting.
Darth_HK@reddit
Moist
Prestigious_Mix4569@reddit
“…It puts the Oil on the Metal, or else it gets the Rust again…”
taylorm368@reddit
Are you not able to use a Golden Rod? First thing I did after putting the safe in the basement.
CrimsonxAce@reddit
Coincidentally, my father had this same issue with his brand new Benelli.
Anyhow, in addition to the dessicants, I'd suggest buying a heating rod and a hygrometer to monitor the humidity in your safe if you haven't done so already.
Also, make sure there are barely any openings in your safe that can allow air to enter. If your safe does not have an outlet for the heating rod, I'd suggest getting one that does or make sure that any holes are covered/taped up.
AtomicPhantomBlack@reddit
Don't throw away your silica gel, if you leave it in the oven at a low temp, it should evap all the moisture, rendering it all like new. Also oil your guns, and consider obtaining a dehumidifier.
HybridP365@reddit
220°f to be precise. Just over boiling temp, it removes all the moisture but won't melt/burn the silica packs.
East_Bug7312@reddit
Get a hygrometer to monitor the humidity.
OldGamerX79@reddit
Too much humidity. Like other have said silicone socks and get some big decassant packs for the safe.
Ok_Committee464@reddit
I have started leaving a few camphor tablets in there. Like machinists leave in their tool box. Puts a light oily film on them to prevent rust. The camphor evaporates.
Hunter_of_Republic@reddit
Even ammonia can play its role here. Did you clean the barrels before storing the guns? Do you have also supresors in that safe? Or did you shoot some "agresive ammo"?
Brick-Pickle@reddit
Safe + dehumidifier = 👍
EZPeeVee@reddit
I repeat BIRCHWOOD CASEY BARRICADE after oiling. Great stuff.
EZPeeVee@reddit
New dessicant, maybe damp rid bucket on exterior of safe and try using Birchwood Casey Barricade. I’m in south Florida and I use barricade on my guns and my tattoo machines and this doesn’t happen anymore! I swear by that stuff. It gets in the metal.
TacTurtle@reddit
New safe?
The drywall may have some residual formaldehyde in it, which can cause rust.
Mountain_Man_88@reddit
Basically the humidity in the air said "I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me"
The safe sealed all the humidity in there from a humid day and the guns just bathed in it. You need something in there actively removing the humidity. Ideally something to monitor the humidity level too. Those silica packs get full and will stop sucking up moisture.
That and/or douse them in oil.
oh_three_dum_dum@reddit
You don’t even really need to “douse” them. I’ve been in armories in the most humid conditions possible with guns that had the parkerizing worn off. A little goes a really long way.
Technically_Tactical@reddit
Walking from the bivovac to the showers IS the shower.
oh_three_dum_dum@reddit
It just depends on if the water is coming from rain, a faucet, or your own pores. You really need to keep track of hydration and loss.
ReReDRock1039@reddit
It’s moist
msnerd2@reddit
Please hit me up again in about 12 hours
msnerd2@reddit
Try Museum polish
TubeSockLover87@reddit
Ehh, link? I only find the anchoring stuff when i search that
Much_Newspaper4453@reddit
Do you leave your windows open a lot? Temperature swings will increase moisture build up on the metal when they get hot-cold-hot-cold.
I keep a dehumidifier in my room and have a big reusable dehumidifier bag in my safe and my guns kept doing that as well. Like in very short amount of time even when they were oiled down. I noticed that it wasn’t doing it in the winter at all, I then realized it was mainly doing in weeks when I kept the windows open at night.
JPEG_105@reddit
Maybe rust?
nofuddonsnek@reddit
Desiccat has a lifespan I would use something like a golden rod
FCRII@reddit
That's 100% rust, leaving stuff dry isn't necessarily your friend. If you have humidity you need to leave a light coat of oil on them.
oh_three_dum_dum@reddit
Humidity. Oil them lightly every so often and put some desiccant packs in the safe. Problem solved.
gunsforevery1@reddit
None of your guns are oiled
tcarlson65@reddit
The silica gel packs have a shelf life. You can usually recharge them. I would only trust those that have a visual cue as to if they need recharging or not.
sewiv@reddit
Silica packs don't work forever. You have to bake the moisture out of them from time to time.
Get a golden rod, assuming you can get power into the safe.
hafetysazard@reddit
It is definitely rust… Maybe whatever you used to clean it last attracted some moisture. Sometimes a CLP is better at the CL and not the P. Switch your gun cleaning product, maybe? Also, some plastics and foams off gas and it can eventually cause corrosion as well.
I keep all my guns in silicone treated socks, they work extremely well. If you can wire one in, goldenrod heaters are a very reputable option too.
Silicone-based coatings are an old fashioned way to keep oxidation at bay. Another old school option which works well is leaving a chunk of camphor in there, if you don’t mind your guns smelling like vicks vaporub. It slowly evaporates and coats everything in a very thin film that protects against corrosion.
Unfortunately gun safes, or sealed cases, aren’t actually the best places to preserve guns. Old school wood cabinets did a better job, but weren’t nearly as secure.
Senior_Hovercraft_33@reddit (OP)
This is very helpful info thank you for that insight. This is kind of a big deal considering what some of these are and what was put into them.
Senior_Hovercraft_33@reddit (OP)
I feel so violated.
EssaySoft@reddit
Just clean your damn guns and oil them
coldafsteel@reddit
nope, that will make it worse.
You have a water issue, as well as probably off gassing from the safe. Water you can deal with. The off gassing you are stuck with for a few years.
ARockWithAGlock@reddit
Do not put them in soft cases, it’ll just make it worse.
Abject_Shock_802@reddit
Living in Colorado I didnt know this was a thing
GingerVitisBread@reddit
Take all your guns out and wipe them down with oil, you can dry them lightly with a clean towel, but you're removing the thing protecting them. That little bit of rust will probably come off with just a little cleaner and rubbing action with a paper towel. Replace your dessicant once a month or more and get a humidity meter. Anywhere from 35-60% is generally ok. Any drier and it might rust when you take it out.
qaa541@reddit
Get a plug in dry rod if you can and get a thermometer/hygrometer to check your humidity levels inside your safe(leave it inside). Wide temperature swings between night and day can cause condensation.
Also, the silica packs will get saturated eventually and then you will have to swap them out or recharge them.
Edwardteech@reddit
Rust.
Real tho oil your guns and leave desiccant in your safe.