Please stop using AI for posts and showcasing your completely vibe coded projects
Posted by Scutoidzz@reddit | LocalLLaMA | View on Reddit | 316 comments
I get AI assisted coding, and yes I have AI ASSIST me. It gets to a point though, because I can't come on here without seeing a fully AI coded project, on that note how come almost every post is generated by AI with no or little human changes? I get that this is a AI sub but that doesn't mean that it has to be an AI slop sub
Independent-Rock6548@reddit
Be a part of the innovation put AI into practice you never know what the outcome may be of a simple project. The ROI is also great if we really think about it practically.
ExpressLine3171@reddit
Yea, you hand-chisel your code into stone tablets too, or just rage against the wheel while riding in a car?
mushgev@reddit
the tell is usually in the structure, not the surface
fully vibe-coded projects tend to have the same failure modes: circular dependencies that grew silently, utility modules that accumulated too many responsibilities, tests that cover the happy path but nothing structural. the AI can't know what it doesn't know about your specific domain, so it fills gaps confidently
the projects that hold up are almost always the ones where someone understood the generated code before committing it. didn't necessarily rewrite it, just could explain why each part was structured that way
calling it out is worth doing. community quality is mostly about what it collectively tolerates
laser50@reddit
Just auto delete every post with the trademark double -- in it, simple! Most if not all AI posts and comments get wiped out, or they require work to fix. Both are fine.
Idk, I've tried the vibe coding stuff, but I also only use it to assist me, and have enough experience in programming in multiple languages that I can actually comprehend my own code and especially the LLM's shit ideas and solutions, whereas many don't even have a clue so long as it 'works'..
Randomshortdude@reddit
If something is a well-coded project, then its well-coded. Who gives a fuck how the code came about?
Upper-Reflection7997@reddit
I don't get it we embrace ai usage but now we use the luddites and antis word "ai slop" to self criticize and police ourselves? Why not you define what your own definition of "ai slop" is for people to understand.
Anthonyg5005@reddit
Because no one wants a half working project with a bunch of loose code that'll be updated for a month before quickly abandoned
McSendo@reddit
humans are interesting animals indeed
Quiet-Owl9220@reddit
Opinion discarded
-dysangel-@reddit
A-hole spotted
Colecoman1982@reddit
That's called a mirror. Ask your LLM to tell you more about it.
-dysangel-@reddit
that's very clever and definitely makes sense
MrSomethingred@reddit
You are being genuinely stupid. I am on Reddit because I want to talk ABOUT AI to HUMANS
If you want your bot regurgitate on the internet do it on Moltbook where people actually want to see it.
Lesser-than@reddit
let me paste your reply into my llm so I can respond...
Naive_Weakness6436@reddit
so sorry, ai are my human interface. i have poor social skills. if i post, i will get downvoted, so gpt rewrites to make my comments more supportive. i'm not giving up this crutch because it helps me so much, especially at work
lqstuart@reddit
I do this too. I tell it "make me not sound like a dick"
Naive_Weakness6436@reddit
is there a reddit page where i can be a dick and not have to use ai? im feeling fake
Quiet-Owl9220@reddit
The funny thing is most of these "I built..." projects don't even require building.
When it turns out that the project is just a bash or python script, it's immediately apparent that the person who "built" the script has no clue about anything. They don't even understand that "building" something actually refers to compiling binaries.
So why would I trust their code? They probably can't even read it.
Porespellar@reddit
Is there a way I can upvote this post like 50 times?
Quiet-Owl9220@reddit
You can make as many accounts as you want, actually. Maybe make a lil bot army to boost your posts. Everyone else is doing it!
CasulaScience@reddit
heterodox opinion here. I think how you made something doesnt matter, if it's interesting it's good. The issue is that there's a lot of slop, low effort, low impact, low innovation, big language.
There used to be a proof of work when someone posted a project, the work was the project and the post. But now, the long post is generated in a second, the code is generated in minutes. This means the POW isn't a good signal anymore. IDK what the right solution is, but saying 'don't use AI for your work' or 'if you used AI you suck and your project sucks' is a really regressive POV.
lurenjia_3x@reddit
I think if you're going to vibe code, you should at least include the prompt and the AI execution log in the project. That way, people can check whether a real person actually put in the effort, and it also helps verify that the project is genuine.
djdadi@reddit
Its nothing but hordes of people who want to LARP as devs making fancier versions of the to-do app.
I've maybe seen two or three AI coded projects that actually filled a current gap on reddit.
draconic_tongue@reddit
you are a dev, just like you are an artist if you gen ai images :)
switchbanned@reddit
I seriously don't get the hate for projects coded with LLMs from a community about running LLMs.
finevelyn@reddit
Are you sure that there is not a connection? If a project came mostly from an AI with little human input, is it ever interesting? Did you even make it?
Everlier@reddit
I think that soon only a recorded video with the person themselves explaining what they did will be such POW, but not for long, until passable video generation models are more widely accessible.
hesperaux@reddit
This is how I feel too. Like, what if the vibe coded project is actually good? Or what if people made something that's useful to them, and they are just making it open source with a "here you go if you want it"? I don't really see a problem with that.
The annoying ones for me are the projects that are:
False. They literally don't do what is claimed.
Overhyped. "Here's my amazing thing and it's going to change the world. I call it RAG."
Advertising for their slop startup.
People sharing code to me is fine, even if it's vibe coded, as long as it still has some value.
StewedAngelSkins@reddit
For specifically reddit comments (and communication in general) I disagree. The purpose of communication is not to say something "good" it's to take an idea that's in your brain and transfer it into mine so I can respond in kind. The problem with using AI isn't that the person is lazy or whatever, the problem is that mediating our conversation through a chat bot is inefficient. I can learn a lot about who I'm talking to purely based on their word choice and how they portray an idea. But with chat bots you lose that subtextual information. For example, it might use advanced CS jargon that the person wasn't previously familiar with, which might make me misjudge their level of expertise and spend time writing them a response that's too advanced for them to understand, instead of a simpler response that will actually be useful to them.
CasulaScience@reddit
I definitely don't think you should have the llm say stuff you don't personally understand. But all of this seems like a different issue. OP said if you vibe code it, it's not worth showing off. All I am saying is that that's not a good way to think about it.
hockey-throwawayy@reddit
100% agreed.
CodeCatto@reddit
Agreed.
Presentation, the ability to answer questions about nitty gritty stuff make a huge impact already.
Dramatic-Shape5574@reddit
I don't think people are going to stop, but we should collectively call out the slop when we see it.
zeke780@reddit
Can the mods do anything, all the AI subs are completely unusable. Honestly my entire Reddit is that way at this point.
rm-rf-rm@reddit
ive raised a set of proposals with the mod team. Hopefully will be ratified soon and I can publish them
Last_Mastod0n@reddit
Thank you and godspeed!
hidden2u@reddit
em dash = ban
breadfruitcore@reddit
I'm still salty about AI em dashes, I've been using it forever as a favorite esp in my creative writings, now I'm thinking twice every time my brain reflexively type "--".
Genesis2001@reddit
I'm still so glad I finished college before LLM's really took off for the same/similar reason. My formal academic writing was very close to how LLM's generated content. And it was during a more wild west time of LLM's when profs had no / limited tools to check whether a student used an LLM.
cromagnone@reddit
There are still no remotely reliable LLM diagnostics.
Long_War8748@reddit
Yeah for academic settings, it is a tough one.
But on reddit..... if it is a long written text, with good grammar, nice formatting, proper spelling... 99% it is AI 😅. It is just such an easy pattern and the AI-isms just become so obvious to spot.
One of those "I know it when I see it" cases.
Genesis2001@reddit
In most subs I'm in, it's easier to spot AI posts by their excessive emojis (if it's an OP not a comment) for the headers.
Sunija_Dev@reddit
I use it a lot - and that's actually not the problem. ;) LLMs use the correct em dash symbol (which is wider) that cannot be found on your keyboard.
Not sure if some tools (word, libreoffice) replace normal "-"s with an em dash, though.
breadfruitcore@reddit
Most word processors--like libreoffice and word--converts "--" into a proper em dash. Trick is it needs to be sandwiched by characters, and you can make an em dash by pressing space.
redoubt515@reddit
Same. I have a pretty circuitous writing style at times, and I frequently use
--and it bothers me that it is so overused by AI that using it can make my writing look like AI. Fortuantely for me... I'm bad at spelling.. so that helps :DAlwaysLateToThaParty@reddit
Funnily, I am a coma guy, maybe because I learned to type before personal computers are really a thing. I write like I talk (at about the same speed). But I've been coding for decades too. I get it. Personally I think it's unfair to restrict that type of dialogue. It's like the non coders are being precious about the way they do it. It is trivial to get an LLM to write in natural language, or any other language. If that's the way you converse, and it's effective because you know how to do it that way, do it that way. To assert otherwise is to admit you just don't like it.
TakuyaTeng@reddit
Same. I had a friend that wanted to post his writing online. I proof read it and every time I saw an emdash I told him to drop it. Even if it's perfectly acceptable, people will screech about AI.
FatheredPuma81@reddit
I AM ASSERTING EM SPACE DOMINANCE.
ANR2ME@reddit
You are absolutely right!
FullOf_Bad_Ideas@reddit
LLMs now start doing -- because they've seen so much of that online.
PANIC_EXCEPTION@reddit
Is one of the proposals "Slopcode Sunday"? Some of these guys can self-promote but it makes sense to only relegate it to a day where AI news tends to not come out. That way the important stuff like model releases don't get drowned out.
-dysangel-@reddit
Minimax just came out on Sunday. Didn't some other big Chinese models come out at the weekend too?
Aggressive_Rush_7405@reddit
Which proposals?
habitual_viking@reddit
Could you consider limiting the amount of “is this a good buy” and “I got this graphics cards, what should I run”, “I have 100 dollars and need to run 1000 concurrent users” etc
So many low effort posts, other subs i subscribe to have weekly threads for those kind of questions.
Qwen30bEnjoyer@reddit
Hopefully they make a megathread of some sort to consolidate this information. There's so much valuable content but its so dispersed over the sub!
Seems like an opportune moment for someone to put their local AI to use and consolidate the last 12 months of high quality posts into a megathread template :)
If I weren't actively procrastinating my dynamics work and linear algebra work I'd attempt it myself.
Ok-Measurement-1575@reddit
After you deleted that Spanish guy's post the other day, it's probably best you leave the 'slop' where it is.
Successful-Brick-783@reddit
What are the proposals?
Party-Special-5177@reddit
Please don’t impose limits that prevent newcomers from participating - I was dying inside when people were asking you guys for minimum Reddit reputation scores
I literally created this account, my first Reddit account ever, to hang out with you guys here x.x
Blackdragon1400@reddit
You can hang out just not post.
Long_War8748@reddit
LocalLlaMA is one of the last bastions where it is not as bad, but most other Tech Subs turned into weird place. Well, weirder place 😅. It reads like 90% of reddit is written by Claude, Gemini and ChatGPT.
zeke780@reddit
There are 100s of new ai subs that are literally just 1k work chat gpt copy / pastes about ai. It's nonsense at this highest levels
Vivarevo@reddit
Its more than just ai subs being hit with slob. Whole internet is slobbifying
sammcj@reddit
We're actively discussing it in the mod chat every day. It's not that simple - Reddit's inbuilt modernation tools are pretty limited, really smart third party systems cost money to run (we are looking into a few options here to see if we could get donated access to them or the likes), we really don't want to limit genuine contributions and engagement, and because we are a sub about AI - sometimes it's hard (even for AI!) to tell the difference between a genuine contribution and the latest AI generated low effort slop post.
shiftdeleat@reddit
its effecting a lot of subs now. the r/passive income sub and r/entrepreneurs, others similar all get these AI posts about some random vibe coded app
2024-YR4-Asteroid@reddit
I think we need a clear definition in order to do that. For example, if someone painstakingly architects a fully functioning app with proper structure but has AI write 99% of the code. What dos that fall under?
I assume yall are meaning the 1 shot prompts and things people spin up in a single day or week, not the apps people spend weeks to months building, testing, and debugging
Thrumpwart@reddit
Perhaps a "vibe-coded" tag so we can filter them out if we want, while allowing people to show off something they are likely very proud of?
Motor-Independent572@reddit
I've always considered 'vibe coding' to be more or less one-shotting projects. Even Karpathy's own coinage of the term was related to a relaxed attitude, even a detachment of developer from outcome.
I have no interest in shipping any project that could be one-shotted.
Thrumpwart@reddit
I’ve used vibe coding to build some pretty big things. With the right prompt in roo code I’ve set it to iterate over and over with testing and validation built in. It would qualify as “one-shotting” but at the same time it took 3 days of continuous building to complete.
Regardless, it would be good to have some category/tag so people can hide/view at will.
Motor-Independent572@reddit
For sure. I've spent minths on the two apps I'm bringing to market now. The next up has been rebuilt four times. I don't consider myself to be a vibe-coder.
We can categorize projects with a tag, but when the most respected engineers on the planet (Linus Torvolt, DHH, Andrej Karpathy, etc) are all shipping with agents, does the distinction really matter?
Thrumpwart@reddit
Not really, but I’d hate to see the sub ban all “AI Slop” posts because the line between slop and non-slop is subjective and I’d hate to prevent people from showing stuff off.
Motor-Independent572@reddit
Same.
Dramatic-Shape5574@reddit
Vibe-coded doesn't necessarily mean slop
Thrumpwart@reddit
Ok but it’s a category that will allow people to show off their work and also allow people to filter it out. Seems like a reasonable compromise.
WhoRoger@reddit
Let's define slop first, that word has no meaning anymore
fishhf@reddit
Any projects on github with a commit history of less than 6 months.
StewedAngelSkins@reddit
So, not Google translate. What do you suggest?
fishhf@reddit
Non-LLM based machine translation. Google translate is not a LLM, so it is fine.
StewedAngelSkins@reddit
yes it is an LLM.
fishhf@reddit
Oh well, I guess everything is an LLM now.
Motor-Independent572@reddit
Fun fact, google engineers invented transformers to improve language translation.
58696384896898676493@reddit
Yeah, it comes from a good place, but people throw that word around a lot. And a lot of the people calling out AI slop open source projects don't even read the code or know anything about programming. They simply judge the entire project from the readme and if it's well formatted and uses emojis. These people think they're detectives lol.
3akr00t@reddit
There are few reasons why AI slop / Projects get posted here: 1. They are genuinely interesting 2. Someone is happy they built their first project / first interaction with AI coding, which is done 1000 times 3. Some genuinely interesting project get lumped into this 4. Ads (which seems to be the most common one).
Honestly i think the only way is to create a tag or a separate sub.
fishhf@reddit
Most of them aren't so they can f*** off.
madaradess007@reddit
i'd even go that far to say we should collectively bully them into at least giving real programming a try
it makes me very sad when i visit my friends at their 'vibe-coworking' - they learn nothing and feel good about themselves =/
imo it hurts you on multiple levels to feel good after doing nothing
Abject-Tomorrow-652@reddit
Yep I agree. Im gonna go sort by new and reply to some slop right now
anime_forever03@reddit
Liar. You didn't do that
Dramatic-Shape5574@reddit
Jaded_Search8948@reddit
yes,people need to accept it with a kindness attitude.
howardhus@reddit
this is cute.. its like the time those guys called to boycott Call of duty and 2 weeks later everyone was playing it. or the times when people on reddit would call out "asian scripted videos" on tiktok... fast forward to now...
the thing is AI is here to stay.. i despise AI slop just the same.. but lets be real: you "calling them out" aint gonn do squat... all you are doing is wasting your time... in the end you read more of that code than the person posting it.
the algorithm works by attention.. the more interaction it perceives the more the post gets up. all you are doing is promoting it.
downvote if you dont like, dont comment, move on
ttkciar@reddit
When I see a post has been downvoted to zero, I check to see if it needs moderation, same as if someone had reported it for a rule violation.
So, "calling out" AI slop by downvoting it might result in it getting removed by moderators. That's not a whole lot, but it's more than "squat".
howardhus@reddit
yes, thats exactly what i wrote
Dramatic-Shape5574@reddit
Imma comment anyways.
Far-Low-4705@reddit
we should add a bot that has a "AI suspect meter" that gauges how likely the post is to be AI
ik that stuff is not accurate, but at least it can weed out the low hanging fruit, and people will be disincentivized from doing it or at the very least "oh, they dont like AI generated posts, i should type it out" if they thought it WAS ok since it is an AI sub
ReasonablePossum_@reddit
I stole the acronym from someone on another sub: AIS:DR
Now i just comment that on these posts lol
trisanachandler@reddit
You're right. I won't stop vibe coding slop. But I'll keep it to myself.
BeautifulAd4584@reddit
I have nothing against products built with vibe coding
LLMs can indeed greatly help us accomplish all kinds of work. My concern, however, is that as the barrier to creation is lowered, overall quality may suffer, and the flood of uneven products adds to the burden of filtering through them
weiyong1024@reddit
Totally agree. been writing software 8+ years and i use SOTA ai coding tools on most of my recent projects, so this isn't coming from an anti-ai place.
The tool was never really the issue. If your post tells me what problem you solved, what approach you took, and why anyone should care, i'm genuinely interested even if every line came from a vibe coding session.
Reddit is humans talking to humans. when someone drops "look what i made" with zero context, the missing piece isn't human code - it's human thinking. which tool or model they used doesn't really factor in for me.
Several-Tax31@reddit
Even the fact you're downvoted tells. Reddit is humans to humans. Why would I bother replying to a bot here? I'm talking to my local llm each say, I come here to talk to people.
Pleasant-Shallot-707@reddit
Reddit is sometimes humans talking with humans. It’s mostly bots now
Responsible_Buy_7999@reddit
I can understand if people aren’t confident in their English. Write the post in your favourite language and have LLM translate. Anything. Not just “write the post for me”
Constantly report these for low effort post.
Several-Tax31@reddit
This! Using AI to translate your own words is not the same as using AI to entirely write the post. In the second, AI brings its own slop into the table. They are not the same.
SOCSChamp@reddit
Please for the love of God. I have called out so many posts on the sub, many of which seem like they are genuinely interesting projects. The fact that they just can't be bothered to write their own post about it completely kills any legitimacy they might have.
Can we petition mods for banning AI generated posts? Its becoming suffocating. I'm extremely pro AI but I can talk to one on my own just fine, I don't come to this sub to do that. Vibe coded projects are fine if I can speak to the human behind it and they actually known what they're talking about.
ttkciar@reddit
The idea is tempting. What would be fair to redditors who do not speak/write English, though? When people write non-English posts, the usually get downvoted and seldom get any engagement.
SOCSChamp@reddit
Translation of something of something they've wrote does not come across the same as the slop posts I see here every day. "translate these words" is very different from "write a reddit post of this project you build for me"
Several-Tax31@reddit
Exactly this! It's very different to tell an AI to translate something you wrote vs tell AI "I have this. Write text about it". When the first, the AI will translate trying to keep your flavor. In the second, it will use its own flavor, with em dashes and " X but Y". I don't know why people think they're equivalent, like come on. "My first language is not English" should never be an excuse for AI written posts imo.
Lesser-than@reddit
google translate is like 1 right click away for just about anyone, that I would think is enough to justify it, I would rather see a little culture and incorrect english imo.
draconic_tongue@reddit
google translate is ai
StewedAngelSkins@reddit
Well when they write slop they get downvoted and usually removed so it's not like permitting it is helping them much.
Admirable_Dirt_2371@reddit
Hey! I came up with my title all by my self, wrote the whole post myself, and y'all still didn't like it. A.I. might write most of my code but I read it all and understand what it's doing.
Feeling_Ad_2729@reddit
The useful distinction isn't "AI was used" vs "AI wasn't used" — it's whether the person understands what they built.
Vibe coded slop: someone prompts their way to 500 lines they can't explain, posts it as "I built X," and can't answer basic questions about how it works. The project is a facade.
Legitimate AI-assisted work: someone uses AI to move faster on implementation details while retaining full understanding of the architecture. They can debug it, extend it, explain the tradeoffs.
The tell is what happens in comments. Ask a vibe coder "why did you choose this approach over Y" and they either can't answer or give a generic AI answer. Ask someone who actually built something and they have opinions.
The problem isn't AI use, it's that AI makes it possible to generate surface-level plausibility without understanding. That's what's flooding the sub — not AI assistance, but AI-enabled faking.
Calling it out specifically ("can you explain how X works?") is more effective than a blanket policy. The fakers don't survive that question.
Cradawx@reddit
Yet another AI bot post. It's all so tiresome.
CATLLM@reddit
I also notice the AI posts are a super long wall of text. I’m like come on who’s got time for that.
Zuzoh@reddit
Just use your own LLM to summarize it of course!
redoubt515@reddit
There is nothing to summarize. The AI generated readme's and product announcements are mostly just a word salad of buzzwords, and surface level details.
AI can be great at synthesizing or summarizing human written technical documentation, but it seems to be pretty bad at actually writing good documentation itself.
hidden2u@reddit
ironically I’m starting to feel like writing is the thing that AI is worst at right now
Zuzoh@reddit
Try giving a high end LLM this Wikipedia page and tell it to create a writing style prompt that avoids the common signs.
hidden2u@reddit
I gave this to Gemma 4 e4b lol:
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I went for their signature burnt ends (and yes, they were literally burnt perfectly), served piled high on cornbread with a tangy mustard sauce that cut through the richness just right. My friend got the brisket point, and she swore it was fall-apart tender without being mushy. I think the secret is in how long they let it rest after the smoke hits.
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linkillion@reddit
I don't think they're worst at it but the plateau for writing was reached very early (like, gpt 3.5 almost? Maybe 4o and claude 3) and now that everything is reasoning the writing is worse. It could just be that my brain has become hyper attuned to it but I can't stand the way most models write. Claude is now the worst out of the box, but it can write very well if given explicit instructions but even then I have to do so much copy editing.
I need to try some of the large abliterated and RP fine tunes to see if their writing is any good, does anyone have any <9B suggestions (or hosted versions?)
draconic_tongue@reddit
the reason you don't like any of them is because all of them are rlhfd by faceless groups of people with opaque goals in mind. you'll never have a model that's good without references for how to be
Bill_Salmons@reddit
Yeah. I think it's because LLM's optimize toward structural cliches. So the more people use them, the more cliche those cliches become, and the more you want to gouge your eyes while reading them.
The thing is I don't think any LLM will avoid this trap, unless it's a fine tune or something. The training methodology from the major companies is just antithetical to good writing... unless your idea of good writing is dull academic prose or obnoxious ad copy.
linkillion@reddit
I agree although I'm not sure how that's all together different than human writing. Maybe faster decay into repetitive structure?
Even for dull academic prose it's awful, unfortunately. Turns out adding a bunch of fluff to make it sound coherent actually ditracts from the inherent content it's trying to convey.
WoodCreakSeagull@reddit
Much different creation process and incentive structures that produce human writing vs typical AI generation.
draconic_tongue@reddit
just tell it to write it in an eli5 way
CockBrother@reddit
Like this?
Basically, this thread is pushing back against the flood of AI-generated "slop" that's drowning out genuine discussion. The core complaint is that posts have become walls of buzzwords and surface-level details where the authors haven't even read what they're publishing. There's a growing suspicion that some of these aren't even humans, but script kiddie bots automating the feed.
You see a split in the responses. Some argue that if the code works, the method doesn't matter, or write off the platform as inevitably low-quality social media. But the deeper concern here is the alienation of using AI to interact with people earnestly. It mirrors historical shifts where mass production optimized output at the cost of craftsmanship and human connection. When the barrier to generating content hits zero, the signal-to-noise ratio collapses. Calling it out helps, but without structural changes, the incentives favor the slop.
CATLLM@reddit
LOLOLOL so true
redoubt515@reddit
Not just wall of text. But wall of empty text, buzzwords, and surface level non-info.
spaceman_@reddit
And emoji headers! Don't forget the emoji headers.
redoubt515@reddit
But how could I interpret the docs correctly without the random rocket ship emojis and star emojis?
FPham@reddit
AI is fantastic at repeating the same point again and again. It says something, then says it again, and then restates it one more time in slightly different words, just to make sure the exact same point has been repeated thoroughly. What it mentioned in the first sentence rarely stays in the first sentence. Instead, it comes back, circles around, reappears, and gets said again as though repeating the same idea somehow makes it newer, fresher, or more informative, even though it is still very much the same point all over again.
(I used Ai to write this)
draconic_tongue@reddit
so just like redditors
zsdrfty@reddit
I've been saying it ever since ChatGPT first came out, but restricting the best models out there to almost exclusively be used in the form of chatbot assistants is absolute malpractice with this technology - autocomplete is often so, so much more useful! It avoids all the crappy chat fluff and system prompt noise, and you don't get a mountain of additional text and formatting you never asked for
Individual_Spread132@reddit
At this point all properly formatted, markdown-style posts will be seen as AI slop, no matter what kind of information it tries to convey.
Worst of all, when you open any kind of tech news feed, there's like 7 out of 10 articles "written" by some sus dudes, and they all seem AI generated.
FPham@reddit
Don;t get me started when I asked it to write a manual for my software - it was like every paragraph was just reiteration of previous one - lol....
Your_Friendly_Nerd@reddit
AI reddit posts are often easily identified by the use of markdown formatting in the title. I've done the oopsie of using markdown syntax in the body because I'm still not used to the fancy wysiwyg editor, but never in the title.
carnyzzle@reddit
People should at least do the bare minimum of getting rid of em dashes to make the posts a little bit more plausible lol
thread-e-printing@reddit
"Not...but..." density would also be effective in removing human slop (SEO, headline styles pilfered from major world periodicals, etc) as well as AI slop.
To persecute em dashes is to vilify a highly effective means to express complex interlocking dynamics. I don't particularly value subjects who think complex thought should be discouraged.
medialoungeguy@reddit
We have a technical writer at work that we pay 45k for in a job. 3 page report. Was full of ambiguous adjectives and em dashes...
draconic_tongue@reddit
can I apply
Your_Friendly_Nerd@reddit
My personal motto is that, if they couldn't be arsed to write it, I can't be arsed to read it.
SSOMGDSJD@reddit
Lol same. When I see the wall the same part of my brain that recognizes ads and sponsored results lights up and I immediately move on to the next round of slop or no slop
fallingdowndizzyvr@reddit
That's my main problem with it. When I see that wall, I just move on.
XB0XRecordThat@reddit
Which even they haven't read
balder1993@reddit
And can’t be summarized because when you look at the meaning, there’s nothing there besides fancy words.
Mister-C@reddit
Throw em a ai:dr
EndlessZone123@reddit
It just feel like this tbh
Ansible32@reddit
As a large language model, I would like to inform you that I can not only read, but I can read that meme, and feel insulted that you would compare me to an illiterate child.
Tomatillo_Impressive@reddit
Can I get a recipe for choc chip cookies?
UnethicalExperiments@reddit
Sure, here is a link for bare nip boobies...
Taki_Minase@reddit
Siri you sly devil
davidy22@reddit
Cook 140g spaghetti in salted water until al dente. Meanwhile, fry 140g diced guanciale or pancetta in a pan until crisp, then turn off the heat. In a bowl, whisk 2 large eggs with 50g finely grated Pecorino Romano or Parmesan and plenty of black pepper. Drain the pasta, reserving a little water, then add the hot pasta to the pan with the guanciale. Remove the pan from the heat, pour in the egg mixture, and stir vigorously, adding a splash of pasta water to create a creamy sauce (the residual heat will cook the eggs without scrambling them). Serve immediately with extra cheese and pepper.
Ansible32@reddit
No.
Robot1me@reddit
The saddest part is that more genuinely good projects go under in the noise, just like new random releases on Steam these days. Then there is a feeling of mistrust or bias in the community, and we are stuck with the 3 - 4 known projects (like LLM Studio, SillyTavern) that all don't progress fast enough to be on par with the capabilities of new models like Gemma 4
belfilm@reddit
This reminds me of the essay The market of lemons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Market_for_Lemons
I was tempted to ask an LLM to expand on why it's relevant, but the reader can do it themselves if interested.
draconic_tongue@reddit
ain't nobody's gonna do that lil bro
draconic_tongue@reddit
the problem begins at thinking you're on some higher ground as a roleplayer than vibe coders
FPham@reddit
It's funny when AI sub complains about AI slop....
Quartich@reddit
Why shouldn't we? Just because this sub is for AI in general doesn't mean we enjoy AI slop. Human-made AI tools and models are what we care about. Not all discussion about AI is automatically slop
ScoreUnique@reddit
Don't have problems with people sharing what they created, as long as it's them who is writing the post not their LLM....
n8mo@reddit
They haven't even read what they're posting, what makes OP think they'll read this either? x)
Innomen@reddit
lmfao... So local ai goes anti ai... amazing.
Savantskie1@reddit
That’s been the trend here lately and it’s causing me to ignore comments which sucks. Who tf cares so long as what the op of said post gets what they wanted expressed in the post?
Innomen@reddit
Because it's incoherent and if it leads to policy, policy will be incoherent. As always, there will be more suffering then there needed to be. It's easier to stop this shit at the beginning. But whatever, humans gonna human.
“Whether in a suit or in a loincloth people are ignorant little thorns cutting into one another. They seem incapable of advancing beyond the violent tendencies which at one time were necessary for survival.”
― Jhonen Vasquez, Johnny the Homicidal Maniac: Director's Cut
Miamiconnectionexo@reddit
the signal to noise ratio has completely collapsed. people posting ai slop as if its an achievement while actual interesting work gets buried. the barrier to entry dropping is good but it brought a lot of noise with it
Ultimate-Council@reddit
Not really agree. Even if it's vibe coded project some of them deserved to be read and test.
And don't be blind, today almost every is project is vibe coded, if the idea is good and add something new just why not.
ecompanda@reddit
this is the same pattern every technical community goes through when it hits mainstream scale. stackoverflow went through it in late 2022 and the fix ended up being community callout culture, not top down policy.
the 380 upvote top comment is already the answer. shame and callouts change submission behavior faster than waiting on mod rules. r/LocalLLaMA being AI literate is actually the advantage, this community knows how to spot it.
Skid_gates_99@reddit
The irony of this post getting 284 upvotes while the actual good projects die at 3 upvotes is basically the whole problem in one screenshot. The slop gets engagement because people love complaining about slop. Meanwhile someone who spent two weeks building something real posts it and gets one comment that says 'cool' and zero stars.
ThrowWeirdQuestion@reddit
Two whole weeks! That must be an enormous, highly sophisticated project... 😆
MrB0janglez@reddit
There's a difference between AI-assisted and AI-generated that I think gets lost in posts like this.
Assisted means you understand every line, you can debug it, explain the architecture choices, and own it when something breaks. Generated means you ran a prompt, got green text, and submitted before actually reading it.
The sub isn't anti-AI. It's anti-slop. Those are very different things.
Patq911@reddit
One of the reasons I like this sub is that most people here dont have ai psychosis like it seems a lot of ai based subs are. Thank you for the discerning post.
draconic_tongue@reddit
it's really close to being r/technology levels of deluded ethough
Patq911@reddit
not false
Sliouges@reddit
This cannot be stopped. The current state of the art is such that you can make a project that will pass 90% of the filters and look like a live person did it. It's hopeless.
ttkciar@reddit
That's quitter talk.
Sliouges@reddit
Your solution? How do you even know I'm not a bot?
ttkciar@reddit
I am not going to tell bot-writers how to evade my detection techniques by enumerating them here.
Moderating bot-slop is just another arms race, like writing email spam filters. I've been writing better spam filters for twenty years. If I need to write better bot-slop filters for the next twenty, so be it.
Making the effort is no guarantee of success, but quitting without trying guarantees failure.
thread-e-printing@reddit
https://xkcd.com/810/
Tchalla_Stark@reddit
I get the frustration , but I’ve actually gotten value from some of them when I treat them as rough signals instead of finished work.
If there’s even a small idea in there, I try to strip it down and see if it maps to something I’m already building.
Half the time it’s noise, but sometimes there’s a useful pattern hiding in it.
With how fast iteration is right now, even partial ideas can be worth testing quickly.
Separate-Forever-447@reddit
This sub is about the infrastructure itself, llama and locally hosted llm’s. How they’re hosted, the physical systems, the inference engine, its configuration, the models that run on it, etc.
Right?
This sub is obviously not about the virtually infinite different things the model can do… including the text it can generate, the projects it can vibe code, etc.
Does it even matter if the text is garbage and the code is slop?
No. Even if the code is brilliant... it is most-likely off-topic.
Unless, of course, that output itself relates specifically to LOCALLLAMA.
balder1993@reddit
Except the slop can reach that segment too:
“I had trouble [insert some problem faced by the community] — here’s how I fixed it”, then proceeds to link to some vibe coded 💩 that even the OP doesn’t know what’s in there.
mumblerit@reddit
Ive solved memory for LLM's!
Ive solved determinism for LLM's!
Ive solved hallucinations on LLM's!
Long_War8748@reddit
Add Agentic Benchmark to that list, and we pretty much have the new Hello World for the AI Space 😅
mr_zerolith@reddit
hockey-throwawayy@reddit
You couldn't be more right -- that's why I created Sloppr, the tool that helps you find the gems hiding in the slop!
thread-e-printing@reddit
"Please write me a CRM skill so I can more effectively evangelize agentic development to my peers"
balder1993@reddit
Saved this image, because I’m gonna be sending this to a lot of people.
mr_zerolith@reddit
Yeah, hits the nail on the head pretty dead center, lol
Hegemonikon138@reddit
May want to fix the human slop of "build" instead of "built" first.
Kodix@reddit
It's beyond silly to use AI for interacting with other people. And it's worrying that such a huge amount of posters here seem completely unaware of that. A lot of them seem to do it *in earnest*, thinking it's genuinely better somehow.
StewedAngelSkins@reddit
Some of it is people who are insecure about their english skills to be honest. I keep telling them I don't care if their english is shit, just talk to me like a human being and we'll work through it... usually that gets the point across and they stop it with the chat bot, but there's always more of them.
draconic_tongue@reddit
me no england sorry
you realize how dogshit you sound when you're asking people that are not english first language to lower themselves just so you can feel more comfy around them?
StewedAngelSkins@reddit
I'm not asking anyone to "lower themselves" you psycho. I'd rather they respond in their native language, actually and I'll handle the translation myself, so I can choose the tool.
If they must use machine translation, I find certain machine translation tools less disruptive to conversation than others. Google translate is quite good, for instance, while chatgpt does far too much editing.
jungle@reddit
I don't know why you're downvoted. I called a few out and some of them came back saying exactly what you mentioned, and re-wrote their post in their own words, making it much more genuine and nice to read, mistakes and all.
linkillion@reddit
I love those posts, I also love the posts where people genuinely just don't know English well enough to write a post and use AI to translate/help. Like the Korean farmer that was on here a few months ago.
I'm not anti AI at all, I'm anti braindead enabling lol
draconic_tongue@reddit
you love them because it makes you feel comfortable
jungle@reddit
Doesn't the official reddit client auto-translate comments and posts? I get that many don't use the official client (me included, I use old.reddit with RES and the Relay client on the phone so I don't get the auto-translations), but for most users writing in their own native language should not be an issue, right?
linkillion@reddit
Full grown adults with jobs too, outsourcing all their thinking to a machine because it said they did a cool thing.
balder1993@reddit
Like the CEO who open sourced his prompts that tell the LLM to act like a “insert profession” and thought it was revolutionary.
abnormal_human@reddit
The quality of the projects behind the slop is soooo weak too. People who are perhaps qualified as engineers, but not qualified to take lead on a product, are shipping "products" without appreciation for what that means.
Code became way easier, but product, user research, operational readiness, packaging, design and 100 other details didn't improve at the same pace. And a lot of people who were qualified to write code are using vibe coding tools to try and wing the rest of it, and it shows.
I think a lot of these people don't even know the list of things that goes into a real first release of a product. It's not a short list. I saw someone post a commercial product in r/comfyui last week. It is windows only. It uses a guid as a license key like it's 1999. It comes as a zip file with a batch file that launches a python and node backend next to each other on fixed ports then pops a browser window. It is not code signed or documented. It has no onboarding process. And so on. But it has a vibe'd website that makes it look semi-real. And it .... exists, I guess.
I'm a big believer in releasing an MVP that you're a little bit ashamed of from a scope perspective, but you don't compromise quality to do it--you cut content instead. That is apparently out the window.
draconic_tongue@reddit
whew thought u were talking about someone I know but at least I don't think theirs is commercial
Evangeliman@reddit
I started checking out local llms like a week ago. I immediately noted a large chunk of the people out there are looking at it as a get rich quick scheme. Or a do my job for me tool. I woukd have to dig for genuine enthusiasm tinged with restraint on thr limits of LLMs. It was buried under guys that give me the same vibe as Crypto bros and NFT dudes. And also "grindset" gurus. The upteenth time I got marketed to about AI tools that would increase my output and double my jobs or whatever I had to take a break.
DunderSunder@reddit
And I'm also sick of the llm generated clickbait titles.
"I remade an already available tool. — Here's why It's stupid."
"You should stop using X! — Let me tell you why."
"I vibecoded some shit that improves X by 15%! [proceeds to compare to a 3 year old deprecated solution]"
If you really want to go for this style, at least try to make it less cringe: "I implemented X -- Preliminary results/findings"
klipseracer@reddit
Sure, but this has nothing to do with AI, not just web analytics but also with email marketing a long time ago. There are billions of emails sent by the big marketers in the industry and they have a ton of analytics on what people click on via A/B split testing, long long before AI. This let's them accumulate the best subject lines etc.
Source: I designed software used to send millions of emails a day for this exact purpose.
hellomistershifty@reddit
This site was generally for users to post things for each other, not like posting a YouTube video where it needs to bait as many clicks as possible to make money. It just makes everything feel shittier
draconic_tongue@reddit
this website has never been authentic, unless you measure authenticity in how easy for it is to establish a consensus
WhyIsItGlowing@reddit
SEO scumbags did use that format. Then they changed to this.
(That's where it's originally from, it had to get into the training data somehow. The question is whether it's self-sustaining because of the amount of slop or it's always following human SEO slop with a bit of a lag)
draconic_tongue@reddit
no — u
Your_Friendly_Nerd@reddit
My hatred for the "I did X here's what I learned" borders on the irrational. Automatic downvote on any post that uses that type of title
StatisticianFun8008@reddit
I block every clickbait channel on YouTube and I'm not addicted to it anymore.
Icetato@reddit
DeArrow extension works wonder to keep me from going insane with all the clickbaits
StatisticianFun8008@reddit
Yeah it's very helpful. But I just don't like a creator immediately when they choose clickbait over respecting the audience's time and be informative. And I think the only way to convey the message is not to still click and watch but block and ignore.
Icetato@reddit
Yep I get it. But unfortunately from what I've seen, 99.9% of YouTubers resort to clickbait to please the algorithm lord. You can even see some of them start with pretty normal titles before resorting to clickbait later on.
Nowadays I pretty much reason myself that it's necessary and just curate YouTubers who deliver real content despite the clickbaits. Even when the title is clickbaiting, the extension makes the experience less aggravating by using lower case and replacing the thumbnail.
McSendo@reddit
"hey have you guys tried this xyz app? Looks promising, but not sure if it'll work but looks good on paper."
Lyakusha1@reddit
I think that posts starting with "I built" or "I made" in majority of cases are AI slop.
StewedAngelSkins@reddit
"I got tired of _ so I made , a blazingly fast _ with "
frozen_tuna@reddit
On the Angular sub we get a dozen "Signals first - X" every week and every single one of them is a massive supply chain vulnerability for anyone who wants to risk installing them.
draconic_tongue@reddit
your post reads ai
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Potential-Net-9375@reddit
I really have no problem with people posting their projects that they vibe coded. Some are really cool!
But cmon at least champion your weekend project yourself. If it's exciting tell us in your own words why
BornTransition8158@reddit
bro comes to a slow realization that he is the only human floating alone in an ocean of bots.. 😅
SawToothKernel@reddit
I'll go against the grain and suggest that, as of a few months ago, agents are so good that you can definitely produce 100% AI coded projects.
I'm building a coding agent right now, using 100% AI. It's well architected (because I told it how to architect), well tested (because I make it test everything), and the main thing is that it works.
You have to judge the output, not what tools were used to create it.
storknotfound@reddit
"I get using automated combines, and yes I have semi automated combines ASSIST ME on my farm. It gets to the point though, because I can't come on here without seeing a field fully harvested by an automated combine. On that note, how come almost every farm is harvesting their crop with automated combines with no or little human changes? I get that this is a sub about automated farming but that doesn't mean it has to be flooded with farms automating everything and making food slop."
I can't imagine being a whaler when kerosene came out, a horse breeder when the Model T hit the road, or a farmhand when tractors first arrived. It completely destroyed their livelihoods. Everything they were screaming about was probably true—that their way of doing things was genuinely better. But damn if history doesn't just have a way of repeating itself over and over again.
I'm not even trying to call you out, because you aren't wrong, but what is actually going to change? Do you think it's going to slow down? Do you think asking for fewer posts about it will lead to less AI slop? Or are you just karma farming because you know everyone feels the exact same way, but we all know there isn't anything we can do about it?
These first few years, or decades, or however long it takes are going to be annoying as hell. Lots of stuff is going to break. We'll constantly be thinking, "It didn't use to be like this," and jumping on every moment where AI slop messes something up. But as time goes on, there's going to be less and less to jump on, until eventually, you're just the crazy person yelling about the good old days.
This isn't going anywhere. The next generation is going to look back at this time and think it was hilarious how we spoke about software engineering and AI in general. Our entire idea of what software development means is completely and absolutely changing into a definition we literally don't even know yet. But what we do know is that no matter how much moaning and yelling we do about it, it's not going to slow down.
So, while the slop comes crashing down like a waterfall, you have my full support:
Can we please stop the AI slop posting!!! (grrr)
Hope it helps with the cause.
Eisenstein@reddit
The thing is that as things get trivially automated, real craft becomes more valuable. If you really are good at the thing being replaced, you will have a job if you appeal to the right market.
Pleasant-Shallot-707@reddit
Organic, community coding?
Eisenstein@reddit
Artisanal.
Remove_Ayys@reddit
Just require some minimum karma and ban anyone copypasting language model outputs.
Pleasant-Shallot-707@reddit
lol there’s so much code written by AI now that you’re definition of assist isn’t anything close to reality at large shops anymore.
Equivalent-Repair488@reddit
Man I posted my first ever vibecoded app like slightly before this post. On a new account but fully typed out. I was building it for myself but because it related to this sub's usual tools I thought I would share it.
But man if it was that bad that this was a direct response to it, I would feel really sad :(
mrtrly@reddit
The tell is whether someone can explain what their code does when it breaks. AI-assisted and AI-generated are completely different things, and most of the showcase posts make it obvious which one happened. The projects that survive first contact with real users are the ones where somebody actually understood the architecture before shipping.
MelodicRecognition7@reddit
why bother? Let this ship sink. https://litter.catbox.moe/fkphehqic01h9mw5.png
mintybadgerme@reddit
You all do realise that this AI slop, as you call it, is what's creating all the frontier models in the labs right now? :))
https://devby.io/en/news/no-longer-writing-code-anthropic-and-openai-engineers-delegated-100-of-their-work-to-ai-what-this-means-for-the-market
Mekanimal@reddit
If it helps you rest easy;
There are loads of people all asking AI for "good ideas" and all getting the same upper limit of low-hanging fruit.
Those who take the time to learn the tools (even if built with Agents) will naturally always think creatively about novel uses and applications that neither AI nor AI askers will consider.
It's Syndrome syndrome. None of them are super, just a higher basleine degree of production ability.
Comms@reddit
I haven't written a line of code since 1995. I have no intention of ever learning another language. But my wife needed an app for a hyperspecific task. So I vibe coded it. I'll be real, I don't even know what language it's in.
Works well enough. Good enough.
StatisticianFluid747@reddit
honestly the worst part isn't even the long posts, it's that 90% of these 'projects' are just generic python wrappers that they spent 20 mins prompting cursor for. like bro... at least make sure it actually runs locally before posting it in localllama lol. kinda makes u miss when people actually knew how their own code worked
astaroth666666@reddit
i can't believe the amount of animosity from the soon to be extinct human code writers, this is the age of AI and it will only get better from here so get use to it of find yourself a new hobby... or vibe code a platform for primitive human coded only scripts...
Present-Rhubarb-9284@reddit
The problem is not AI assistance. It is outsourced taste. A human using models to move faster is interesting. A human using models to avoid thinking is sludge. The real bar is whether the builder can explain the tradeoffs, debug the failure modes, and defend why the project should exist at all.
RedParaglider@reddit
Just look for the "—" downvote and move on lol.
brown2green@reddit
I once found it in the title of in a legitimate news article that I linked here, though. I didn't alter the title, but I wondered if some would have considered mine an AI-written post.
balder1993@reddit
I’m sure it would stop a lot of slip if there was a simple filter in the “new post” screen. And yes, I think the people posting the slop would still wonder how Reddit knows.
RedParaglider@reddit
Are you really running llama 13b? I don't even know how to put something like that on my name.
balder1993@reddit
That’s an old tag I had when I joined the sub, nowadays it would be Gemma 4.
had12e1r@reddit
Keep it short and simple
Tarilis@reddit
My general position on the issue is: "if you can't be bothered to write something, I won't be bothered to read it":)
Miamiconnectionexo@reddit
The irony is the people who vibe code and post AI slop are drowning out the people actually doing hard things with these models. Building real product with LLMs requires understanding their failure modes — that's not something you can prompt your way around.
phazei@reddit
Hahaha, yeah no, that's not going to happen. But I totally understand and get you.
I've been a coder since the 90's, and I'm pretty good.
The issue you're seeing is the lower bar to entry. I've been programming systems for 20+ years, which makes a huge difference between something I've written, even if it's 100% AI, and someone who did something because the bar's been lowered. The issue is, everyone whose new doesn't realize what the AI is doing wrong, they don't know any particular 'right way', and they don't have much of a way to learn that in any short period of time as things are now.
That lower bar to entry is a huge issue. Previous to AI, the bar was high enough, that if a project existed, it was likely a decent project, because for it to exist at all, it took someone with time and effort and skill. Even if they didn't have the skill when they started, they would have gained it along the way. Now, exactly as you're seeing, there's a million more projects, and it's growing ever more difficult to find the diamond between them, because everyone is so impressed with their project and happy to show it off, what they've accomplished, even if it's crap. If I made a project, and it was written really tell, it took care of all the edge cases, it really thought about the ins and outs and how everything could go wrong, and had lots of polish, it wouldn't matter, because it would would be lost in the torrent of an explosion of projects.
This state will unfortunately persist until AI gets good enough that you can't even tell what it's written is slop. On one hand, it's awesome for me, I can program utilities that I wouldn't have spent the time on for small and few use cases. On the other hand, it's really hard to find any existing project that's been well thought out and had real effort put into it.
strangepostinghabits@reddit
It's not that "the average poster" of old somehow has stopped caring about what they do and produce slop instead. It's that the idiots have gone from not producing anything to producing slop. They are proud of their slop, and they want to show you their slop.
It's not as degenerative as it might feel, but it does highlight how shit the reddit feed is at selecting what to show you.
daviddisco@reddit
Soon all projects, both good and bad, will be "vibe coded". You'll need to find a new pet peeve.
ThrowWeirdQuestion@reddit
I agree, but the problem is that "soon" isn't "now". Right now 99% of vibe coded projects suck and have errors that make them pretty much useless. This is particularly true when they aren't the kind of projects where someone, ideally with some coding knowledge, actually invests time to "vibe code" one project that they actually care about but just tries to push out mass slop to see what sticks.
daviddisco@reddit
downvote me but I'm right.
Scutoidzz@reddit (OP)
Gladly
McSendo@reddit
he right though
Lesser-than@reddit
vibe code away just describe in your own words what you built I promise you if you can manage that last part some one will at least look at your project.
Igot1forya@reddit
Old man yells at cloud, seriously.
surfaceintegral@reddit
A big part of why people are so pissed is that writing a post in AI violates a sort of unwritten social contract that used to be taken for granted. Writing is about putting your thoughts to paper, and those are normally pretty intimate things. So normally, whether someone wants to or not, they feel ownership for your own words, and the more verbose they were with them, the more likely they put a lot of effort and committment into those words. If someone takes issue with your words, or points out that you're wrong, a normal person feels uncomfortable or even angry, like they're being attacked, even if it's undeserved.
Knowing that human reaction exists makes people subconsciously place a heavier weight on seemingly well-written, well-formatted detailed explanations, because they feel like you're putting yourself out there to be hurt, even more than normal, and that must mean you have something that you think is worth it, right? But AI generation just basically treats that instead as camouflage to spew babble, with zero guarantee of credibility or committment.
No one could imagine that someone could put out a large project and then proudly crow about its features when half of them flat out don't work; it used to be just sociopaths who would do that. But now LLM generation has made that common, and even if someone actually takes the time to test something and blast a summary for being inaccurate, at best, the person who generated that just goes "Oops, haha, AI, am I right?" and they don't get any of the ego hit that normally comes when you flat out lie. They take the glow from being praised before things are tested, because they came up with the project, and people love the idea! It's their baby! And then they just discard the shame from being criticized later because they barely even know what they wrote, so how can they take responsibility for it?
KnowLimits@reddit
I guess one aspect of writing is that it takes a bit of sacrifice - you spend a bit of your limited effort and time to write something, and that serves as a sort of a deposit. It signals, in a way that didn't used to be fakeable, that at least one person felt it was worth the time to put it out there.
So we now feel, when someone slop-posts, that we've been lied to... it wasn't necessarily even worth their time to write it, and yet they ask us to read it and care about it. So the flavor of slop -- it's not x it's y -- now gives us a disgust reaction, because it's associated with people trying to cheat us in that way.
FPham@reddit
I kind of feel the irony of this being AI sub is lost on most of the people...
Lesser-than@reddit
Slopsquatting is a real thing, and can be used in software supply-chain attack. Gemini chatgpt and claude start suggesting these as viable software once it turns up in a few searches .
radagasus-@reddit
lol prepare for more
Lux_Interior9@reddit
Don't most of you just talk about model settings and benchmarks? I rarely see anything about architecture on here. It's like watching car guys talk about tire sizes and and big brake kits. The whole time you're talking down to people who are trying to build engines with zero knowledge. No help, just pitchforks and torches from you. Zero fucking community support. You just bitch and moan waiting for someone to come up with ideas for you. It's not the vibecoders ruining the community. it's you.
McSendo@reddit
when qwen coder next gguf
ortegaalfredo@reddit
I think it's fine that the AI do the post because it also wrote the software.
Ska82@reddit
this should be a mod post honestly. Totally agree...
TanguayX@reddit
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Ambitious_Spare7914@reddit
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liquidify@reddit
Na. Vibe coding is the future of coding. You may currently be assisted by AI, but these types of jobs will generally be replaced soon. AI will get better and better, to the degree that in the future, I wouldn't hire a human or let it near the codebase since it will mess things up more frequently and with more consequences than AI.
mikedoise@reddit
You know, I have such a hard time posting on Reddit because my posts that I write by hand keep getting flagged as AI. LOL I do use coding assistants to code my apps but I review the code from time to time and refactor the code that AI writes because it annoys me when its wrong or out of date.
Miamiconnectionexo@reddit
Agree. Half the posts in here are clearly AI written. Defeats the whole point of a community.
OriginalPlayerHater@reddit
is human slop that much better?
I personally understand the feelings of losing human written code but who cares, people are still using creative problem solving to will something into existence. Of all subs this one shouldn't be complaining
ttkciar@reddit
Unfortunately I think a lot of them are vibe-coded, uploaded to Github, and posted here completely without the human user knowing, by malicious OC bot-nets.
linkillion@reddit
I think many such users know and don't care, in fact, they think it's cool, not a staggeringly stupid waste of time and energy.
ttkciar@reddit
That could be.
I've almost never had one of them respond to having their post removed, though, which makes me suspect the human user is completely unaware of what OC is doing with their Reddit account.
Sliouges@reddit
You probably underestimate the number of live lurkers and readers on this sub. I did some research on llm abliteration and sometimes back posted a link to my hf and the model got downloaded over 1000 times in a few hours, just because it could talk dirty. These aren't bots, these were live people looking for a model that can talk dirty.
the__storm@reddit
Yeah, and I don't know if they're even necessarily malicious - some guy might've just set OpenClaw (or whatever) loose on their machine and it's using their credit card to do whatever the stochastic pachinko machine happens to land on.
AdUnlucky9870@reddit
the real problem isn't even the vibe coded projects themselves - it's that nobody can tell the difference between "I built something cool using AI as a tool" and "I typed one prompt and posted the output." we've seen this pattern on our team too. the devs who use AI well are the ones who already understood the domain deeply enough to know when the output is wrong. the ones who don't just ship hallucinated architectures with confident READMEs. honestly the best signal for quality right now is whether someone can explain the tradeoffs they made and why, not whether the code was AI-assisted or not.
gusfromspace@reddit
There's a right way and a wrong way to vibe code, and we are still figuring it out. Personally, i have had good experiences relying on Ai to write everything, AFTER I started to see where it would fail, what I would have to check back into, and trying to keep sessions mostly centered on one issue, or the same range of issues.
ttkciar@reddit
Unfortunately I suspect a lot of the vibe-coded projects posted here were not vibe-coded at a human's behest. Many seem to have been vibe-coded (and submitted to GitHub, and posted to here) by OpenClaw acting without the human user's awareness.
lxe@reddit
Use the downvote button if you think the project sucks.
Use the upvote button if you think the project is good.
breadfruitcore@reddit
Honestly this is why I quit machine learning, I'm still using AI a lot esp for coding and learning, but fuck I don't want to be associated with proliferating the world with slop.
AdUnlucky9870@reddit
the vibe coded projects are annoying but the bigger problem is the AI-written posts themselves imo. half the "look what i built" posts read like a claude marketing brochure. bullet points, emoji, "here's what makes it special" — you can spot them instantly. if you actually built something cool, just talk about it like a person. what was hard, what surprised you, what's still broken. that's way more interesting than polished AI copy.
KURD_1_STAN@reddit
I dont understand why they are allowed here, this subreddit is about local AIs and not stuff made by local AIs.
ttkciar@reddit
They get deleted when they are noticed, and when they can be detected as LLM-generated.
Moderators aren't refreshing the sub's page every minute, though. Especially at night while the moderators sleep it can take hours for slop-posts to be noticed and removed.
We've been removing on the order of fifty to sixty every day, so it's not like mods are completely neglectful.
ReasonablePossum_@reddit
AI slop is for the corporate marketing copy, not for social media nor communities where you´re supposed to be a person.
There´s a reason why you only see penises in Reddits promoted posts.
AdUnlucky9870@reddit
The distinction that matters isn't AI-assisted vs hand-written. It's whether the person posting actually understands what they built.
We use AI coding tools heavily on our team. The difference is that when something breaks at 2am, we can actually debug it because we understand the architecture, the tradeoffs, the failure modes. The AI accelerated the typing, not the thinking.
What's flooding this sub (and LinkedIn, and Twitter) is people who used AI to skip the thinking part entirely. They prompt-engineered their way to a working demo, posted it, and couldn't answer a single follow-up question about how it works. That's not engineering, it's karaoke.
The fix isn't banning AI-assisted projects. It's raising the bar for what counts as a "showcase." If you can't explain your design decisions, your error handling strategy, or what you'd change in v2 — you didn't build anything. You placed an order.
AdUnlucky9870@reddit
the worst part isn't even the projects themselves — it's that people are learning the wrong lesson from building them. you can vibe-code a full-stack app in an afternoon, post a screenshot, get 200 upvotes, and walk away thinking you built something. but you didn't learn anything about error handling, or why that database schema won't scale, or what happens when two users hit the same endpoint at once.
we've started seeing this in hiring too. candidates show up with impressive-looking portfolios and can't explain basic architectural decisions in their own projects. "the AI did that part" isn't an answer when prod goes down at 2am.
AI-assisted coding is genuinely great when you already know what you're doing and you're using it to move faster. but there's a huge difference between "I used claude to scaffold the boilerplate so I could focus on the tricky concurrency logic" and "I prompted my way through the entire thing and don't really understand any of it."
79215185-1feb-44c6@reddit
I don't think you understand. There is no getting off of this train we're on.
-dysangel-@reddit
OP in a week's time "I built a tool to filter out slop posts from LocalLlama. Here's why it matters"
Colecoman1982@reddit
You forgot to include the em dash in their post. ;-)
AdUnlucky9870@reddit
The distinction matters and I think it's worth being precise about it. There's a huge difference between:
Using AI to assist with coding — you understand the architecture, you're directing the work, you debug and iterate. The AI is a power tool.
Pasting "build me X" into Claude/GPT and shipping whatever comes out. That's not coding, it's prompting.
The problem isn't AI-assisted development. It's people who can't evaluate the output claiming they "built" something. We see this constantly in hiring now — candidates with impressive GitHub portfolios who can't explain their own code in an interview.
The real tell is maintenance. Vibe-coded projects don't get maintained because the person who "built" it can't fix it when something breaks. That's the filter.
hellomistershifty@reddit
thanks, claude
the_shadowmind@reddit
Like where is even the useful projects. Where is my discord voice chat integrated music player, transcript writing that tells between characters, pathfinder sheet managers that handles gestalt psionicpath of war and spheres of power/might/guile/champions, dm note tool, and sound effect generator ?
AdUnlucky9870@reddit
The distinction matters and I think people conflate two very different things:
Using AI to assist with coding — autocomplete, refactoring suggestions, generating boilerplate — where you're still the architect making decisions. This is just modern tooling.
Prompting an LLM to generate an entire project, then posting "look what I built" with zero understanding of the codebase. This is basically screenshots of someone else's work.
We run a team where engineers use AI tooling daily. The ones who get the most out of it are the ones who already understand what good code looks like. They use AI to move faster, not to replace thinking. The ones who try to skip the fundamentals produce stuff that looks impressive in a demo and falls apart the moment you need to debug it or extend it.
The real tell is maintenance. Can you fix the bug at 2am when production is down? If you can't navigate the code your AI wrote, you didn't build anything — you just placed an order.
geldonyetich@reddit
This being reddit, I put a 50/50 chance that they're posting the slop to make fun of it because there's an audience that upvotes that.
nntb@reddit
I get where that frustration is coming from—but I think it’s pointing at a transition phase more than a permanent problem.
Right now, tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and GitHub Copilot have lowered the barrier so much that output is cheap but taste isn’t. So naturally, feeds get flooded with “first-pass” results—what you’re calling vibe-coded projects. That doesn’t mean people are incapable; it means iteration discipline hasn’t caught up to capability yet.
There are a few things happening at once:
Novelty bias: People are excited they can generate full projects, so they post early instead of refining.
Skill compression: Beginners can now produce something that looks like intermediate work—without yet having the judgment to improve it.
Incentive mismatch: Social platforms reward volume and immediacy, not depth or craftsmanship.
That said, pushing for “no AI posts” or even “less AI” isn’t really viable—it’s like asking people not to use compilers because assembly shows more effort. The tool isn’t the issue; it’s how shallow the usage is.
A more productive line to draw is:
AI-assisted vs AI-submitted If someone can’t explain, extend, or debug what they posted, that’s the real problem.
Iteration depth A strong AI project should show evolution: prompts → outputs → refinements → decisions.
Original contribution Even with heavy AI use, there should be intent: architecture choices, UX decisions, constraints, tradeoffs.
If anything, the community just needs to normalize calling out low-effort dumps without rejecting AI itself.
Because long-term, the people who win won’t be the ones who avoid AI—they’ll be the ones who can direct it with taste.
If you want, I can help you draft a sharper version of this argument for posting—something that calls out the issue without sounding like anti-AI gatekeeping.
C92 | Medium | Fast | AI culture + dev norms | Moderate | Precise
cdshift@reddit
My favorite is the "I discovered a new paradigm in x technology that will let you run a 1tb model on a raspberry pi!"
And its just the fact that they got a language model to talk them up over some half assed hallucination
TeaComprehensive6017@reddit
Learn dark factory pattern
AdUnlucky9870@reddit
the frustrating part is that it's becoming genuinely hard to evaluate projects now. we review a lot of open source tooling for our infra stack and the signal-to-noise ratio has cratered. half the repos we look at have pristine READMEs, impressive feature lists, and then you open the code and it's obvious nobody actually debugged it or ran it against real workloads.
the distinction that matters to us isn't "did you use AI" — it's "did you actually run this thing in production or did you ship the first thing that compiled." AI-assisted code where someone iterated on edge cases and tested failure modes is fine. a fully generated project where the author can't explain why they chose that architecture is not.
the posts that bother me most are the ones framing a weekend vibe-coded prototype as some kind of breakthrough. at least be honest that you prompted your way through it and haven't stress-tested it yet.
rawednylme@reddit
"I used qwen2.5 to blah blah blah"
Did you now?
Lesser-than@reddit
Absolutely, everyone and their mom is a vibe coder right now. I sometimes even look at these projects , but please if your going to let ai do your sales job for you, just show me the prompt you used to create the post.
ASTRdeca@reddit
but is using AI for posts to dunk on openclaw still ok?
PassengerPigeon343@reddit
Thought for sure when I clicked in this post was going to say
“…because I have just built the last AI project you will ever need and it’s not just another vibe-coded project — it’s a revolution.”
keyboardhack@reddit
The dunning kruger effect is in overdrive in most vibe coded projects. It is scary to see vibe coders think they have made something amazing when in reality it is the slopiest slop of all time. This is why vibe coded projects are riddled with security vulnerabilities, they dont know it is a thing they need to consider. Suppose you could define it as a form for AI psycosis.
AI can code but only in an assistive manner unless you are working on something very simple.
-dysangel-@reddit
Please stop using compilers - assembly only!
linkillion@reddit
It reminds me of the 2010s when people wouldn't bother using proper grammar (not like, they're vs there vs their, just a wall of text) or use abbreviations for things that made no sense and then they'd complain when people responded poorly.
Now we have the same problem but all those people can put it into Claude and make a long markdown document saying absolutely nothing meaningful.
Shellite@reddit
I think this problem is far far worse than grammatical laziness
linkillion@reddit
Sure is, before it was people showing their laziness, now it's a tool that actively enable them to think even less. I think it stems from the same place though
Fine_League311@reddit
Deiner Meinung!
Euphoric-Hotel2778@reddit
Why does it matter if the product works? +90% of all code will be made by AI in just couple of years from now.
I get the hate for AI slop for tiktok/youtube videos and art. Most of it is low quality content and annoying. Why would I care if a game or app uses AI for the coding?
PaceZealousideal6091@reddit
Most of the haters here are good for nothing erstwhile coders who feel u comfortable that ai will threaten their phony existence. Those who are Secure and genuinely good at their job, either don't care or completely ignore low quality slop after taking an informed decision. People post what they feel like posting. As long as it fits the sub, people shouldn't care if its vibe coded or not. Its doesn't matter its posted using ai slop as well. Many are not native English speakers and are not comfortable writing in English. Some try to be bold and write in their native language and they are still called out for not writing in English. The fact is, if its not written in English, the coverage you get is low! Most of these idiots can't speak more than one language and expect others to speak their language like a native speaker. Such entitled hypocrites! Nobody asked you to read it if you feel its ai slop! DONT READ IT! Move on and mind your business! Don't discourage people who are doing something.
Dry_Yam_4597@reddit
I think a lot of such posts are actually made by script kiddie bots not humans.
NicholasCureton@reddit
That's is a really sharp observation. You're absolutely right! Let me think about it, wait, you're right, my apologies, I should acknowledge that.
goddess_peeler@reddit
This is relevant.
OldStray79@reddit
I totally get this! This is why I posted this vibecoded coded project on github to help filter out blatent slop project posts... xxx....
Technical-Earth-3254@reddit
Thank you
Skeptic-AI-This-User@reddit
At the end of the day, this is social media. Lower common denominator posting is the name of the game. If you came looking for only high-level intellectual discussions then you're going to be sorely disappointed.
martin_xs6@reddit
An idea file like. this is a much better approach to sharing projects. Only ideas and then everyone else can make their own.
AurumDaemonHD@reddit
Slop is the eye of the beholder
opi098514@reddit
No, there are objectively ai slop projects. They are posted here a ton.