If you have a degree, why are you a truck driver?
Posted by wispyhurr@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 115 comments
Posted by wispyhurr@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 115 comments
StarSlow776@reddit
I decided IT should be a hobby and not a full time job. That and I like driving, for some crazy reason. Current place of employment pays pretty well too, probably more than I could've gotten otherwise.
Motor-Sky-4534@reddit
I’ve talked to a lot of former corporate guys like myself with degrees who got into trucking, it’s way less stressful and way more peaceful and money isn’t that big of a pay cut or they turn their owner op into a decent small company. Working alone or four yourself makes life 10x better.
Hungry-Physics-9535@reddit
I used to drive box truck to put myself through school. Loved every minute of it. Now I’m at the entry level of the work I studied for (controls engineering) and I hate it.
Put my ass back in the truck, this wasn’t worth it haha
_lifeofkris@reddit
I didn’t wanna look at 3 screens of excel anymore
Prune-These@reddit
I used to repair automated mailing machines for less than half what I'm being paid for heavy haul. One thing I learned is not to put your degree on your trucking resume. After two years at the same I admitted that I have a degree.
ExpedientDemise@reddit
I upvoted you here. I never finished my degree, but I make more as a truck driver than my previous job repairing electronic equipment. Years of training and experience just didnt pay off.
Prune-These@reddit
In 1995 I was unemployed and trying to make a change in my life. I found a school that taught computer networking; many colleges didn't teach it at the time. I tried to get a grant but the school wasn't accredited. They did however, have a grant for a truck driving school. Twenty years ago I moved back to my hometown to help take care of my mother. I went to school part-time and eventually got my degree despite knowing that my age was a barrier to a decent paying tech job. I needed to keep busy I guess.
_lifeofkris@reddit
I’m a retired CPA. 35 YO. I did well, quickly. I drive for fun; local test driver for new trucks. 7-3:30. I’ve found that my background does help
Crashcra1@reddit
Same! I am a CPA, was a practicing CPA for 25 years & owned my own firm for over 15 years. I got very tired staring at computer screens.
_lifeofkris@reddit
Yes sir! Agreed.
Prune-These@reddit
Just 3?
_lifeofkris@reddit
Yeah. Just 3. And one for email/other
LogPlane1030@reddit
I need to poop
Silent-Room-4987@reddit
What's stopping you?
_lifeofkris@reddit
Let’er rip
Few_Jacket845@reddit
No degree, but halfway through. Had babies, and needed to provide. Turns out I'm actually pretty excited to try and grow a business doing it.
Still want to finish my degree, just because I don't like being a statistical failure. Also, I have to imagine a degree looks better on paper for something down the line.
Oh, and because I'm an enlisted Soldier in the Guard, and to continue my career up to the First Sergeant/Sergeant Major level it is highly highly beneficial.
Real_Gift2774@reddit
Yup. BS Physics UT Austin 1995. Why am I truck driver? For the chicks man.
Chaddie_D@reddit
Ain't no lot lizards in the lab.
smartman2796@reddit
They call them lab lizards.
Pitiful_Yogurt_5276@reddit
My English degree would lead me into teaching. I decided I’d have to be insane to subject myself to the American education system.
I discovered that my school bus job is not a career. They want part time drivers and bitch about the quality of employees they have. I was field trips and sports only.
I loved the solitude. I hate coworkers and managers watching me
ethicalants@reddit
The margins! the pay is ok but the cost of living (especially if you live off the road) are astronomical. I make like 1400 a week net which is ok but the fact that I can save 75% of that is insane
JC_80@reddit
Because 15+ years of meetings and working with people who ‘play the game’ to get ahead, was making me exhausted - mentally. And, at the end of the day, all I had to show for it was more meetings in my schedule and another 100+ emails to answer.
I wanted a job that got me out of the house/office, showed real progress each day and even though it’s physically exhausting, it’s worth it. And it doesn’t pay THAT much less.
skeletons_asshole@reddit
Got tired of being on-call and literally every single thing being an “emergency” that I had to fix that second.
Chuuby_Gringo@reddit
I'm dyslexic, and no matter how careful I am, I still fuck things up. Tracking minute details aren't a strong point, either.
Active-Blacksmith-41@reddit
Got a degree in homeland security while I was in the military. I was an explosive detection MWD handler and thought it would pay off when I got out. Moved to the middle of nowhere where my wife is from. Started a business. Business flopped because of Covid. Now I haul fertilizer for a company 5 minutes away from my house.
nekaiser@reddit
Meapons of Wass Destruction
Active-Blacksmith-41@reddit
Funny thing is if most people realized the many uses fertilizer has things would be a lot less boring day to day 😅
Silent-Room-4987@reddit
Bc i don't have great social skills. Ppl annoy me so damn much. I'd rather ride a peterbilt than a desk.
beavismorpheus@reddit
If you won the mega millions lottery, don't you think you'd be a lot more people friendly?
I don't care about bossing you around because I know how much that sucks, just want to be off limits from workplace authority figures with the power to take initiative.
That's where I got stuck for years. It felt unnatural how I wasn't becoming powerful as I entered adulthood. They were giving me shit for not being people friendly when I was a $10 an hour nobody.
"Because that's all you're worth. If you so smart, why do you work here?"
I got so tired of the mind and power games. I'm gonna head out and hit the road. Then the manager at Burger King was like, "My power isn't a game! Good luck getting a reference.".
nanneryeeter@reddit
Is this a schizopost?
Silent-Room-4987@reddit
What exactly are you trying to say? That i would have beeter social skills if I were rich? If so, then my response would be absolutely not. I'd probably be worse to deal with. Esp at my age. I no longer care about anyone outside of my social circle. Help me out, what are you saying? Bc I'm not getting it.
J-Rag-@reddit
I think he's saying that poor people are unfriendly and unhappy?
Idk. I'm with you though. I dont have good social skills and I prefer to run solo whatever I'm doing. And before that other person chimes in, no, it's not because I'm poor.
Dr_Adderall_2000@reddit
Well then he’s certainly wrong and doesn’t leave his house much because all the most memorable people I’ve met who had a lasting impression on me were from poorer countries. And there is no correlation because you have average people with great interpersonal skills…. Then you have complete weirdos with all the money in the world like Suckerberg and Felon Musk…. And Although, interpersonal skills CAN get you ahead it doesn’t always and so he thinks “Anyone rich must have got that way by being sociable.” Which is painfully inaccurate because a lot of elites have inherited wealth. Besides, some people are great with others but decide to live out an ordinary life.
AdagioEducational124@reddit
Sadly, this world is run on luck. If you want to be successful, you gotta have some luck. You can hit the slot machines 10 times and win nothing, but the other person hits the same slot machine 10 times and hits the jackpot. Who do you think will be more successful in life?? What if you were born to rich parents? How different would your life be?? You apply for a pharmacy manager job, there are 500 applications on file l, but only 5 got looked. Luckily, yours got picked by rng. You get what I'm saying, this world is run by luck.
beavismorpheus@reddit
Yeah, that is true. I wish I could write a step by step formula for success for everyone. I used to have a rags to riches bosses that told me that a lot of it was being in the right place at the right time. Then when he finally got rich he was resentful as fuck because they all came back around, pretending they were always friends.
All that trouble it caused not knowing what social networking was. They were trying to make me seem as unattractive as possible so they could exploit me through wage slavery.
It just seems wrong how many millions some of those people had sitting around, what a difference a little $10,000 kick start would've made. Then once I started making a middle class income, it made me realize that that's how little they cared. I started letting it all out and they took it as an opportunity to incriminate me as a criminal suspect. The extended family wasn't communicating with me at all. They were like dumb animals.
But, a lot of us are in the same boat. Like, if you finally came up with a million bucks as if you'd send it someone working in a sweat shop because you feel sorry for them.
Chaddie_D@reddit
Because a bulldogs ass doesn't give any shit.
Jeep4x420@reddit
I make more money driving locally than I would with my degree. I have a great work / life balance. I drive a tractor trailer delivering lumber. I usually start at 5:30 and I’m home by 2:30 almost every day. I don’t have to look at a screen. Plus I get to operate cool equipment (Moffett forklift that rides on the back of my flatbed). I’ve always had a fascination with vehicles and machines since I could see, so maybe this is where I truly belong.
RealUsernameNotFound@reddit
And I bet your customers are actually happy to see you…when the yard delivered the studs, joists and LVLs for our new home, I was pretty pumped!
Jeep4x420@reddit
Oh yeah. For the most part everyone is super cool and excited when I show up
MuphDiesel@reddit
None of your fkn business
Capital-Sorbet652@reddit
I met a veterinarian in CDL school. She was a mother of two and recently divorced. Some people are just looking for an escape. If you think about it, it makes perfect sense. It is an escape for alot of people.
12clrush@reddit
I have a music degree. I do have a part-time music job, but music alone ain’t paying the bills. Though, I’m currently trying to transition into teaching.
Migistat@reddit
The government currently shuts down every 7-8 business hrs so I figured this was better for job security purposes.
ApollyonFE@reddit
Because it's an entry level job that pays slightly better than most entry level jobs. I can go back to setting up mesh network or doing cyber security anytime, but that's not what I want to do right now.
Probably going to hurt some feelings with this one, but it's the truth 😂
MPV8614@reddit
My degree is in English teaching. I couldn’t stand the students/parents/admin fighting me all day everyday for $37,000 a year.
Dataentry-Specialist@reddit
Need some help from you
Dataentry-Specialist@reddit
Do business and fullfil your dreams not by doing 9-5 useless job
Player2orNot@reddit
Driving a truck is only part of running the business for owner operators. There’s a reason some of us are earning over 300k yearly.
stevenmacarthur@reddit
I'm a truck driver because -quite simply- I love to drive.
Full disclosure: I don't have a degree, but I am a member of MENSA.
TheGucciBandit@reddit
Oh. What’s the process to get in MENSA like? Can anyone join?
AdagioEducational124@reddit
Mensa is a gifted IQ society. Members like Albert Einstein.
stevenmacarthur@reddit
Anybody can apply and take the entry exam, or there are other third-party documentations/exams that can be submitted.
genocyde26008219@reddit
Because I hate people. Literally wish more died during Covid as we need a “culling” and covid fatalities (actual) were very underwhelming. (And yes I lost family during covid before you come for me. I hate people like I said.)
Fun-Web3346@reddit
studied math, dropped out of college in my senior year and got into trucking, all very recent events...
Like a lot of people says here, even when you have other choices, sometimes it's not just about the money, it's also about the passion.
AndromedanPrince@reddit
cuz i dont like people
Thefornicatingmoose@reddit
I came here to say exactly this. I have a culinary degree on my wall that I now only use for my family
homucifer666@reddit
Because when I was a youth, they told me to go to college because companies were looking for college grads.
Then when I got out of college, the world was like "cool degree, but everyone has one now, so maybe try McDonald's."
Admirable-Cookie2888@reddit
True
ThrowAway509643@reddit
They call this "elite overproduction." It's a loaded term, but around 2013 when I got out of the Navy I could see it in the state of American academia when I was briefly trying my hand at higher education. I got the wrong brain for the classroom, but what really let me quit and give in to the ADHD was seeing just how many adjunct faculty existed on the other side of the degrees I was looking at and no clear path on the other side of the program for employment outside. They recommended unpaid internships, which is code for slavery afaic.
We're talking 12-15:1 adjuncts:salaried, all folks competing for an actual gig with benefits at the university, then one of my classes even used us students as an arena for selecting between one of three of them who were competing for the same position. We werr to vote on who was the most compelling, I found it demoralizing.
Anyway, I think it's all by (shitty) design. When Biden was pushing to cancel student debt some of the debt holders - mostly Republicans in state legislatures - initially said the quiet part out loud in complaining that this would be unfair to them and tried to justify it with how it would negatively affect military recruitment. I'd seen how often they brought that up in boot camp: we're supposed to get wildly in debt and then keep our noses down for ten to twenty years while the fight goes out of us. The anger is very easily transferred laterally to those you feel are beneath you rightly or wrongly: you went to school to make something of yourself, you got through, you're entitled to slightly better perks where they exist.
No_Edge_7964@reddit
Economics major turned fuel tanker driver, I feel seen 😂😂
CannibalAnus@reddit
On the flip side, most wont even hire you as a grad student, gotta have 12 years of volunteer statuses, 4 undergrad studies and blood of christ inside of you.
HeywoodJaBlowMe123@reddit
If you’re not actively engaging in the frat parties with the CEOs son, you’re fucked.
Networking is everything in college. Probably worth more than the degree itself.
beavismorpheus@reddit
It seems like the degree is a formality sometimes. Like for example, if your uncle owned a diesel repair shop and you wanted a job there, you'd have a guaranteed job lined up after school. No dorky formal interview.
I was under the false impression that it was just their knowledge in their field of expertise and then the degree was like a buying a ticket to a movie you want to go see.
When you enter the workforce you are either rich or poor and all they want to know is your networth. The network makes the networth. "Oh, that's so and so's son, send him our way.". They know they got money. But it's not their fault poor people keep having kids and how are you supposed to network with people that don't have anything? Don't understand why some of these people are even having kids.
Compared to if you grew up rich farm boys with millions in tractors and equipment laying around. "Hey man, I could do this for your company.", and shake on it.
If they like you a lot personally then they look for reasons to keep you around and sweep things under the rug. The hot chick kept getting employee of the month because they liked staring at her butt.
MysteryUser1@reddit
Desk jobs suck!
Ok_Bug_6470@reddit
I’d say most drivers have some college if not at least an associate and a lot of bachelors. Ive met phds out here and more. Money is the answer to your question, I have two associates and two semesters shy of a bachelors, probably 3 now.
Knarknarknarknar@reddit
Its harder to punch coworkers in the face while driving. So I drive.
TeacherGoneTruckin@reddit
After 3 college degrees and 15 years of public school teaching, I needed something a lot less stressful, something far more respectful, and something that would help screw my head back on straight.
Hmm… 🤔❓
SayNoToFatties@reddit
I like driving. I dropped out of college after 2 years of going nowhere. Worked dead end jobs for a few years and finally set out to do what I wanted. I'm the "oh look, a fly" types in a classroom environment. Lose focus easily and find researching subjects or paging thru boring textbooks maddening. Listening to some old coger drone on and on in lectures puts me to sleep. Hands on and trial and error are the way I learn. Very few college subjects pertain to the syllabus material you actually need for a chosen career field but they require you to take it anyway. That time would be better spent actually focusing on the material needed for your career path. College wouldn't have to drag on so long if this were the case but it's lucrative to keep you there as long as possible.
I'm a rear load garbage truck driver and aside from interesting odors, dealing with gross stuff and the occasional texting teen or blind granny trying to inadvertantly run me over its a pretty laid back gig that pays well and lets me sleep in my own bed each night. I work a rural route so get to see a lot of beautiful country, twisty backroads and meet a lot of friendly doggos and give them treats! Getting in and out of the truck and moving keeps me in decent shape also so gaining weight isn't an issue which is good.
Frankly, college is just a huge scam for most people in today's world I think. Doctors, lawyers, astronauts, engineers and the like I get, but most jobs can be done by people without a degree and some hands on training. Computer degrees especially should be obsolete. Younger people entering the workforce are so ingrained with technology now those things should be second nature. I'm 33 but about as computer illiterate as a boomer because I had little exposure to them until college and zero interest in figuring them out. Atypical for someone my age but there you are.
Traditional-Bee3016@reddit
Recent college grad. I've tried getting an entry-level jobs in the field I want. It's been two years since graduation. I've applied to all kinds of jobs in and outside of my field. Even after obtaining multiple certificates, I was only able to get unskilled jobs. Jobs that I couldn't even leverage for my resume. No skills to be learned. I got a forklift certification with years of warehouse experience. I still got nothing. Never got in trouble, don't do drugs. I live in a highly populated area, too. This is my last resort option for a better life. I refused to spend years and tons of money trying to learn or get another skill i'm getting too old for that. Trucking just takes a year to get something out of it and I'll always have work in bad economic times like we have now.
Luisrf206@reddit
Couldn’t find a better way to make money 🤣
Deadbeatdone@reddit
What else are they gonna do with their degree in philosophy and sociology?
Ninja-Storyteller@reddit
Got tired of being yelled at in customer service jobs. This is... way less yelling! :D
nevrfastalwysfurious@reddit
now i do the yelling!
Hkerekes@reddit
There can be good money in trucking. Degree or not is irrelevant to people wanting to use trucking to make money. Oversized owner operators make doctor levels of money.
Prune-These@reddit
AA in PC/Networking technologies. After I got my degree, I realized I don't want to be trapped in a windowless room eight hours a day.
Lord_B33zus@reddit
It’s a perishable skill that I didn’t keep up with. Also may have just grown out of it since HS and the time I got the degree.
ThanksALotBud@reddit
I have a CDL as a back up because I don't have a degree lol
-no-condoms@reddit
I decided that baby sitting grown ass (criminal) adults wasn't my thing.
PolarisRider16@reddit
I got tired of working every weekend and holiday in a kitchen(culinary arts degree)and missing so many family events. Way too much stress and no career advancement and micromanaging at every level. Sure driving has its stresses but overall I’m way happier the pay is better and I have more free time
0100100012635@reddit
This pays better.
SH_SWH@reddit
I’m often clearing more than what I was making as a state employed social worker. Insurance sucks in comparison now, but at the end of the year I’m going on my wife’s insurance which is great since she works for a hospital.
SuspectOk2931@reddit
Wasn’t interested in my degree anymore nor the field.
Glittering_Grade8490@reddit
Any advice getting into trucking here in Katy Texas?
bezm12@reddit
Because my degree is with something that requires me to be around people, and I forgot I can't stand people. So now I drive a truck.
EatLard@reddit
I only drive part time. The first part of my shift I’m a supervisor at the airport. Then I deliver LTL air freight.
AdagioEducational124@reddit
You don't need to have a degree to be successful in this world unless the job you want requires it. I know some folks out there with a fancy bachelor's degree can't even get jobs because the market in their field is so bad.
Desperate_Fee_808@reddit
Degrees don’t guarantee you a spot in your field of study..only ppl who have gone to school would understand this..also..you could have gotten a job in that field and felt it wasn’t a fit for you
Unfair_Analysis_3734@reddit
Because I need a job?
No_Edge_7964@reddit
Fuel tanker driver. Pays a lot better than working in a bank
ConsistentRegion6184@reddit
Not trying to be judge-y but it was this or carpentry... and doing work is gratifying as opposed to what politics you may get caught up in as a company man.
NoCommunicationPro@reddit
Most degrees are a massive waste of time and money. Trucking allows quick entry to a decent paycheck if you don't mind selling your personal life for a paycheck. Everything has its compromises. I wish I never got mine.
acs0311@reddit
Because my income is higher than what many make with a degree where I live. We have listing after listing requiring a masters or doctorate for a job that pays less than $60K a year. The median household income in my county is $58,800. The per capita income is $33,200. My income is well north of double those numbers. Most of the people I know in their degree field are miserable. They dread going to work. I look forward to getting back on the road. I call it work, but for me it really isn’t work.
jaylew1981@reddit
I got tired of doing CNC Programmer/Machinist work for low pay.
Evil_Space_Penguins@reddit
I worked in an office and went to school for 6 years. Loved college, hated office work.
My education is a personal pursuit, not tied to work. I think that's mostly just an American way of thinking... and that's why most people aren't educated and they don't read any more.
I drive and I keep a stack of books with me. When I go home, I change them out for new ones.
flergityberg@reddit
Because this is the quickest way to pay off my fuckin’ degree in education without trying to get some Fortnite-obsessed middle schooler interested in algebra. Any other questions?
TheGreatHumungous@reddit
Money.
Immediate_Regular@reddit
Because I'm a werewolf.
HistoryTeacherNick@reddit
3x what a teacher makes.
zzdis@reddit
For Lot Lizards <3
FossMan21@reddit
Have a culinary arts degree. Doesn’t pay at all
DonBoy30@reddit
Make relatively the same, but trucking sort of fits within my hobbies (backpacking, whitewater canoeing, and mountain biking), as in, I just really enjoy going from A to B. I just like to wander around, I guess.
Cardinal_350@reddit
When I worked LTL we had a guy with a business degree. I asked him why he was driving. He said "I make $90k a year. What am I going to do? Go manage a fucking Kinko's for $35k?"
justdan76@reddit
There aren’t many jobs in history, unless you’re a social studies teacher, and I wasn’t cut out for teaching kids. To teach at a university or be an academic historian, you need to basically work for free for several years, then take an insecure and low paying position somewhere, if you can find it and beat out the other thousand people trying to do the same thing. I needed to get back to work, and make more money as a Teamster than most professors. I listed my degree on a trucking job application once just for fun, the manager and I had a laugh about it.
wetstorm95@reddit
Monday-friday, six figures after a few years driving experience, and minimal/no take home stress. Got in to pay off my loans, never left.
nick_soccer10@reddit
Because I like the $ I make…
Capn_T_Driver@reddit
I got a worthless degree right before the great recession fully hit, struggled for years to find a decent job in that field, and finally hit ‘bottom’ and decided to make a change.
Now, I have my own operating authority and while things are still a struggle, there’s definitely light at the end of the tunnel.
Washedhockeyguy@reddit
What is your worthless degree?
Capn_T_Driver@reddit
Photography. While a ton of people have my portraits and wedding shots in their homes, I was never able to fully capitalize on it to the point where it would be sustainable for a full working life.
Macondo-1923@reddit
I work in Investment Operations for the State I live in, and I studied International Trade in Georgia and got my Masters in the Midwest in Data Analytics.
I’m not a driver, but I’ve started a trucking company and partnered up with really great people that don’t have degrees, but they’ve sold their businesses in different industries.
Firstly, a degree is fake. I don’t really need it to work in what I’m working in now. Anybody can learn anything. Do a good job and deliver good customer service if you’re selling something (including your labor) and you can do anything.
I don’t like how the market is getting constricted by huge regulation and brokers that take way more than they need to, influx of truck drivers that don’t need to be driving. The market will correct itself on these, and you just gotta hope to be on the right side when it does.
Trucking isn’t a “low” career for people that aren’t formally educated. Anybody that can do a genuine good job is welcome.
wispyhurr@reddit (OP)
I have a bachelor's degree with high earning potential. I'm curious why individuals who've invested in a degree have now decided to drive trucks. I have my own personal reasons.
Macondo-1923@reddit
What’s the 60 minutes episode on it that recently. There’s lots of fraud going on and there’s definitely runway for the industry to turn for the better, especially for individual owner-operators.
Just watch every penny and save money for a depreciating asset and don’t drive loads for less than $2.50/mile and definitely don’t get pushed around by a broker. Useless ones are dying and with tech, I think they’ll be extinct in 10 years.
PhantomPlasma@reddit
Got my Bs in chemistry, this pays better. Still thinking about med school.
FlowOk4608@reddit
It’s what I like doing. But also, I graduated college in 2010 and nothing was hiring except truck driver. And my dad was a truck driver so as a boy I thought it was like the coolest thing.
droptozro@reddit
Pays better starting out, and I live really close to my company/DC. So unless I get fired, staying here to come home daily making about $120k/year gross.
Got a BSIT with a focus in Cybersecurity finished back in 2024 through same company online University and still haven't found an opening job that pays this much unless I'm willing to move into the city(and I ain't doing that). Gotta admit I haven't gone after it full bore, but wouldn't mind switching to cyber SOC position that pays about $100k if I can get it---but it'll have to be almost fully remote to make it worth it.
Different_Mousse_564@reddit
Honestly some STEM majors get tired of office environments and the job market is pretty shit Rn