When did hot chocolates, "milkshakes" and "iced" drinks become shite? Were they ever actually good?
Posted by ReanimatedCyborgMk-I@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 25 comments
All the franchises, uppie cafes etc in town that sell "iced" dessert type drinks. You buy them, expecting it'll be a nice gelato based shake or something like that with some flavour, and then it turns out to be like 30% milk / dairy product, 50-60% crushed ice, and 10-20% flavour / toppings, so what you end up tasting is a watered down drink for anywhere between a fiver and a tenner. I assume this saves the companies money as instead of spending on dairy they can just use what's in the tap.
Maccy's iced lattes are a big example of an offender on this listen, like 40% you can drink and the rest is just ice that hasn't been blended right, but there are other places that do it bad too. What I don't understand is that if cost is the matter, using powder to help thicken the "watered down" aspect would help. If you just use water you need something to thicken it.
For me, galaxy drinking chocolate powder is brilliant and universal. You can blend it with cream / milk, you can blend it with hot or cold water (though hot is easier) and it'll flavour it up really well. It's actually ruined drnking out at other places because 99% of the time unless it's somewhere like Five Guys or one of the dessert shacks in town that do proper gourmet type shakes (with proper cream / chocolates blended together)
The same goes with hot chocolate, especially those on the boot fairs and markets, like nearly £5 for what's basically a bit of boiled water, a single scoop of powder and if you're lucky, a small bit of squirty cream and some cocoa powder dusted on top. The actual drink has no flavour.
I must not be the only one to experience this?
HirsuteHacker@reddit
Never been to knoops?
Prestigious_Cycle@reddit
Everything has become shit. I was born in the 80s and pretty much everything has become enshitified and horrible. I don't eat out anymore because of it. Even Five Guys is shit and grossly over priced.
djfnejdijRandom@reddit
If I ordered an iced late, I would expect to get a late on ice and not a dessert that has any additional toppings?
No_Chemist2922@reddit
Honestly, most people these days only care about the amount of sugar in their drink (the more the better), and if you're optimising for maximum sales, you're just gonna dump sugar into your product.
jdsuperman@reddit
Sugar being widely replaced with artificial sweeteners has to be at least part of it.
Banes_Addiction@reddit
Sugar tax doesn't apply to milk drinks.
jdsuperman@reddit
I never mentioned the sugar tax. But sugar has been widely replaced with artificial sweeteners.
Careless_Soup_109@reddit
Have you ever tried making a milkshake at home? The amount of ice cream and cream you need to get it at a good thickness is considerable. I'll talking for example four scoops of ice cream, glugs of cream, etc.
To sell it at a good margin is considerable too. Ultimately, if you were willing to pay £12-15 or something, you'd probably get the milkshake you'd like, to match hospitality margins.
RBisoldandtired@reddit
Blended?
You’re looking for a frappe. Not an iced latte.
Broric@reddit
I'd pin point tit o when Frappucino's got big at Starbucks. Before then, a milkshake was actually milk, after then it's just ice.
Temporary-Affect-274@reddit
I actually really like chocolate milkshakes (“frappes”) when they’re blended with ice. It’s more refreshing - the neros / Starbucks ones have always been like that though
I agree hot chocolates though are terrible most of the time but I don’t like them enough to find a decent place to get one
jon81uk@reddit
A frappe is milk/flavours blended with ice and that is not a milkshake which should be ice cream blended with milk
ReanimatedCyborgMk-I@reddit (OP)
Making your own is usually the best route.
sin84rocks@reddit
Ice is cheaper than milk and flavouring so the more ice, the less it costs a business to make the drink.
NuisancePenguin44@reddit
Get yourself a velvetiser, you'll never go back to powdered hot chocolate. It's all terrible if you ask me.
ciro_the_immortal80@reddit
It's probably because of Jamie Oliver.
Braveheart1966@reddit
When they weren't powder. I remember when it was ice cream, milk and flavouring
DameKumquat@reddit
Only in really fancy places. When I grew up, a milkshake was frothy flavoured milk, no ice or ice cream. Ice cream shakes were a luxury at places like Garfunkel's.
RIP The Baker's Oven.
BoysenberryTiny8138@reddit
Sugar tax meant all that shitty chemicals in those types of food, can’t even find a good drink anymore because it’s all got chemicals in it ——_____——- we know what sugar does to you, diabetes. We have no scientific knowledge of what these artificial sweeteners do to you, no matter what these companies tell you (you should know by now companies and politicians lie everywhere they go) shi even the McDonald’s CEO couldn’t even eat his own burger becuase he knows it’s full of shite..
jon81uk@reddit
An iced latte isn’t meant to be blended, it’s made with cubed ice.
Ill-Situation73@reddit
Cheaper ingredients and sugar tax. Flavourings are sugar free which I dislike as it tastes too fake, bulking with ice is to bring costs down but it only benefits the companies. I have stopped buying iced lattes/milkshakes when I am out because they just aren't the same anymore and each time I have, I have been disappointed.
ODFoxtrotOscar@reddit
I used to love an ice cream float from this (now closed) place in Leicester - nothing else came close!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-48127728
Aberry9036@reddit
IMO galaxy milking chocolate has ruined other hot chocolate for you because it’s mostly sugar - it makes your nose wrinkle in the same way as someone who receives a single sugar in their tea rather than the four they are used to.
Maybe try something like twinings drinking chocolate for a while (though it may be just a sugary, check the packet) or reduce the amount you put in gradually.
That said, I hate lattes because they dilute the taste of coffee, have no sugar in coffee, and most mocha coffees are too sweet for me, so maybe I’m not best placed to reply.
ReanimatedCyborgMk-I@reddit (OP)
Tbf where galaxy tastes nice is the creaminess more than the sweetness but I get your point.
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