Has anyone managed to get over their fear / anxiety of public speaking? How?
Posted by Turbulent_Echo4014@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 102 comments
I have been in work for over 10 years and I still have crippling anxiety when I have to present to 10+ people who I don't know. Has anyone successfully got over their fear of public speaking without taking propanolo or similar.
I want to feel comfortable in my mind and body.
People often say the more you do it the more comfortable you'll be but I'm 10 years in and still find it an awful experience.
HirsuteHacker@reddit
Just rehearse the fuck out of whatever you're going to be saying. Rehearse like crazy. You'll feel less nervous when it comes time to speak.
pryonic1705@reddit
I recommend looking up some videos from Caroline Goyder - work brought her in to do a public speaking course whih was excellent. Lots of tips on grounding yourself, breathing, controlling pace etc...
Obviously a lot of her stuff is trying to sell her books and courses but there's some good free stuff on Youtube etc...
The other thing I learned is practice, practice, practice. If I'm doing a presentation I'll practice it out loud at least 5 times and occasional present to my partner. It really does help.
N-F-F-C@reddit
Beta blockers.
LittlePinkNinja@reddit
Was gutted to find they can’t be prescribed with asthma :(
oli_ramsay@reddit
These are what helped me pass my driving test first time lol
divinenoble@reddit
Beta blockers changed my life, I can’t believe I didn’t know about them sooner. I went from struggling in front of 5 people to presenting in front of over 100. Beta blocks plus actually preparing and knowing your stuff did wonders for me!
TSC-99@reddit
Want some
Serious-Comment5458@reddit
Exactly this.
My doctor prescribed me a month's supply of propranolol, which lasts me ages as I just take one 30 mins before presenting, but it's rare I am presenting in my role.
I used to have panic attacks and started hyperventilating and disassociating, so it was more than just nerves. I still give nervous, but I don't have an extreme physical response now.
Speedbird1A@reddit
How did you get the prescription? What did you tell the GP? Is it a long drawn out process to get it or fairly straightforward?
Serious-Comment5458@reddit
I just told my GP that I have a presentation coming up and I'm really anxious because I know I'll have another panic attack, and he just prescribed a month's supply there and then. They can be taken daily for other symptoms, which is why I think you get 30 tablets but if you only present as a one-off here and there, just take one or two before and then make another doctors apt when they are getting low.
bigbuddaman@reddit
Yep that’s what saved me. I was suddenly flung into hosting/moderating a work event with 100 ish people.
Propanolol completely stopped any physical symptoms like sweating, shaking voice etc from appearing. As I gained in confidence I was able to realise that I could actually do it, and now I’ve weaned myself off them.
Long-Woodpecker-1980@reddit
These are perfect for it.
They don't slow your brain down or leave you dopey... They just dampen the feeling of panic
Jerkcaller69@reddit
This is the answer. I was the same, everyone said being nervous is normal. Sometime your nervousness isn’t normal and beta blockers stop the physical symptoms of the nervousness/anxiety. Now I know what normal nervousness feels like and my presenting has gotten so good I am going to be speaking at an international event.
ImNotThatDeep@reddit
I'm signing up for an improv class. 😅
DaveBeBad@reddit
They are there because they want to hear what you have to say. They don’t know if you mess up and get things wrong.
I used to hate it, but have presented to 50+ in the past. I struggle far more if it isn’t planned in advance.
Untrustworthy__@reddit
I don't know about that. I've run hundreds large meetings and presentations where plenty of people don't want to be there but are being forced to 🤣.
ImNotThatDeep@reddit
This is even better then! So I have a crowd comprised of people who are genuinely interested in what I have to say, and then the other part of the crowd likely me tally checked out, so nothing I say actually matters to them. 😅 It can be unnerving though, seeing blank stares.
Careless_Soup_109@reddit
Yes. Join a singing group and sing a solo in front of people.
You will be so embarrassed that public speaking after that is the easiest thing in the world.
__mz@reddit
It’s something you definitely warm into. The size of the group makes a difference, and actually being passionate about what you’re talking about makes a difference too
togtogtog@reddit
I used to teach it to students who very often felt like vomiting at the thought. It was their worst nightmare.
We worked by doing loads of practice. We started with very short talks and built up over time.
We also talked a lot, with students giving one another feedback. They were often shocked when another student said how nervous they felt, as it often really didn't show.
For some students, we settled on that they may never like talking to groups. However, they knew that it was something that they were completely competent at doing. They also felt the change that doing SO much practice mafe, and in knowing that it wasn't just them who felt that way.
For any talk you are going to do, practice it loads of times, to yourself, to family, to friends. Familiarity really lets you go into automatic mode. And other people really won't be able to tell how you feel.
All the best - it really is an achievement to have been able to do it! 👍
RelationKindly@reddit
Not a drug but I can’t emphasise enough the power of practice it, practice it, practice it. Do it till you know it almost by heart. Knowledge of what you’re saying really takes an edge off and the more edges you can remove the better. Stand in front of a mirror, practice in front of a trusted friend or family member. Practice in front of the dog, the cat, on the bus. Practice till you are bored shitless by it. It really adds a layer of confidence that you don’t have if you’re doing it less than 💯 prepared. Good luck and remember, it’s absolutely ok to also say at the beginning that you’re not a natural public speaker.
Cam_Sco@reddit
You say other than propanalol, but having that experience of propanalol can help you get over the anxiety without it because you realise that it's really just the physical effects of anxiety that feed into that cycle of fight or flight.
I'd go with propanalol every time BUT do note has been taken off the list for prescribing for anxiety, so is off label. I still get them though. Best thing for public speaking, actors take it often for stage fright. I take 40mg an hour before a big meeting, or even just walking to a busy shop for general/social anxiety. I didn't have it for the first 10 years of my working life and big meetings killed me - sweating, shaking, tremor in the voice.
Efficient_Chance7639@reddit
Join Toastmasters. They have branches all over the country and they are a tremendous help. Worked wonders for me.
PsychologicalRun1911@reddit
Practicing helps a ton but the style of toastmasters isn't very good for professional presentations.
Efficient_Chance7639@reddit
I agree, but it should help with anxiety which seems to be OP’s main issue. Whenever I hired junior people in consulting I’d always get them to join their local branch and the improvement in their skills was both noticeable and fairly rapid
PsychologicalRun1911@reddit
I like the idea of toastmasters. I wish they had the same thing for professional speaking.
They have a very specific methodology/set of rules and they make people adhere to it and it doesn't work for a professional presentation... And you can't just do a normal professional presentation there. It's not like you can just use it for practice.
Would be better off just paying for some coaching or some classes.
In our mba we had an entire class on presentations plus we did presentations in every class. Probably was the thing I benefitted the most from.
folklovermore_@reddit
I came to suggest Toastmasters! A former manager recommended it to me and it's been a really big help - not just for public speaking but in terms of building confidence more generally as well. There's loads of branches (OP's workplace might also have one depending what sector they're in) and I've found them to be very welcoming.
KeaAware@reddit
Lorazapam.
TSC-99@reddit
No but I’ve come to realise it’s because I’m autistic and can’t process quickly enough to formulate responses to unexpected questions.
DECKTHEBALLZ@reddit
There are classes/courses for this.. drama/acting classes/courses/club also help.
Trick-Chipmunk5164@reddit
CBT
JoesRealAccount@reddit
Can't Because Terrified?
MadJohnFinn@reddit
Whenever I’m about to go on stage, I get someone to step on my balls. That way, I can think about how much my balls hurt instead of how nervous I am.
lovesorangesoda636@reddit
My work sent me on a couple of courses which helped a little.
My "breakthough" came when I was doing a "women in tech" talk at 7 months pregnant and honestly had so little fucks left to give that I just winged it. Normally I would have entirely over prepared and had everything memorised but this time... I just didn't. And it went great!
After that, I started just flat out telling the audience that I didn't like public speaking and caring less about the "presentation" of the talk. I do talks sitting, 100% use notes and don't bother to hide them, and I try really hard to just accept that something is going to go wrong.
I still hate it and avoid it as much as possible, but it is easier now.
revolut1onname@reddit
I do a pub quiz weekly that has really helped me, as I used to struggle massively too. Even when I started I was so nervous it was hard to get through it. Now I'm completely comfortable, and have even been sent to other pubs when their quizmasters weren't available.
One pub gave me a wireless microphone so I spent the first few minutes wandering round to see what the range was. I suspect the punters thought I was nuts but by the end they were laughing along with me.
MiserableSympathy230@reddit
Is your anxiety due to being judged? Well those people who think negatively of you because of how you may word things, or mess words up don’t matter. If they’re going to judge you, then their opinion means nothing
MiserableSympathy230@reddit
Is your anxiety due to being judged? Well those people who think negatively of you because of how you may word things, or mess words up don’t matter. If they’re going to judge you, then their opinion means nothing
MiserableSympathy230@reddit
Is your anxiety due to being judged? Well those people who think negatively of you because of how you may word things, or mess words up don’t matter. If they’re going to judge you, then their opinion means nothing
Competitive_Rub_9590@reddit
Revising what your briefing until you know off the top of your head helped me a lot I realised the vast majority of my anxiety stemmed from not knowing what to say when I got up there
InspiringGecko@reddit
Toastmasters.
Martinonfire@reddit
Practice then practice some more.
….but the real trick is, while you are practicing pretend that you are a great, public speaker.
90% plus of great public speakers are pretending to be, underneath they are nervous, just like you.
Calorinesm1fff@reddit
I'm scared but I do it anyway cos I know my stuff. It has gotten easier over the years. But I remember getting a Fitbit and doing my first conference since COVID and the Fitbit kept buzzing and notifying me that I was doing a great cardio workout.
festering_knacker@reddit
Knowing your shit really really helps.
twirling_daemon@reddit
As opposed to knowing you’re shit 😂
festering_knacker@reddit
That'll throw ya right off
Dr-Ben701@reddit
I used to be anxious - generally ok now - (1) prepare prepare prepare know your stuff inside out (2) practice take every opportunity to do a presentation and see if you can video yourself - you’re likely better than you thought with room for improvement (3) reinterpret your anxiety as excitement- because no matter how comfortable you are - speaking in front of others is always challenging. (4) breath deeply slowly and clench hold and release your stomach muscles to release the stress - practice makes perfect - good luck
ARobertNotABob@reddit
Don't. Meet. Eyes.
Look at people's foreheads, or even several inches above initially.
Sweep your eyes at that height back and forth, left to right, right to left.
Also, have you seen The Last Samurai? This scene : Too many minds
In other words, don't be distracted from focus.
HTH :)
theabominablewonder@reddit
I’ve watched some people present well and I try to get into the zone thinking about their persona/approach and how it came across and how I’d like to emulate that style a little.
A bit like when I wanted to be confident in an interview one time so I tried to channel my inner Jose Mourinho.. it wasn’t me being interviewed but a weird me-mourinho hybrid.
And know your shit and don’t read off slides. The slides are a prompt about what you want to talk about, they’re not cue cards.
Lyrakish@reddit
Exposure, honestly. I started to attend more in person events for my hobbies and spoke up more. I still go red, frustratingly. I get rosasia on my cheeks so I look flushed. But I've just had to power through a few times. I'm still scared, I haven't 'got over it' so to speak. I acknowledge I'm scared, and do it scared.
Hope you find a solution that grooves for you. Anxiety is so frustrating. Meant to get you running from an enemy and all I get is a fear of excel spreadsheets and public speaking.
bowak@reddit
About 15 years ago my work sent us all (in small groups) on a 2 day course about giving presentations. Over the 2 days it built up with ever longer exercises leading up to giving a 5 minute talk on a subject of your choice where you weren't allowed to track the time with a clock/watch/phone.
I think the intensity of those 2 days just helped so much as by the 3rd or 4th exercise it was just something we all were doing and already starting to feel like just another part of the job.
VodkaLimesAndSoda@reddit
For me, it was a lot of practice. A lot of people still get nervous with public speaking, even if they’re very experienced. Are you talking more on the side of normal nerves, or closer to an anxiety attack?
If you’re anything like me or most people who speak publicly, you may be thinking “Oh my god, am I pausing for way too long? This feels like an eternity”, or “I just got my tongue twisted, that was really awkward”, or “I don’t know where to look or what to do with myself”, or “Am I talking too quickly or too slowly?”
Unironically, don’t forget to breathe and take a second. If you’re anxious or nervous, you might run out of breath mid sentence because you’re nervous, which uses more air. That’s normal and it’s perfectly okay to stop after a sentence or thought and take a breath.
It’s also okay to pause for 3-5 seconds if you need to gather your thoughts, remember something, or compose yourself. It will feel like an eternity to you, but most people won’t notice. Try pausing for 3-5 seconds the next time you present to get comfortable with being able to pause and realising it’s not as long as you think.
If you’ve been told you talk too fast sometimes (like me), make an active effort to talk slower than you think you need to. Not by a huge amount, but enough to naturally compensate for you speeding up. Though the best thing for quick speech is to get comfortable talking.
If you don’t know where to look, it’s better to make eye contact with your audience than to look towards the back of the room. Alternate looking between multiple people for a few seconds each so you’re engaging everyone and not just looking at one person.
If you don’t know what to do with your arms, people are naturally quite gesture-y anyway when they present. However, a good neutral pose is to clasp your hands together if standing, or having them in a similar fashion in front of you if sitting. Do whatever feels most natural for you, so long as it’s not both hands in your pockets - one hand is fine.
If you muddle your words, that’s okay - it happens to everyone. If it’s minor, it’s best to move on as if it didn’t happen or to simply not draw attention to it, as people may not have even noticed. If you repeatedly muddle, it’s okay to take a second to pause and compose yourself. If you’re feeling confident, you can briefly laugh it off.
There are lots of different areas to work on, and most people do not find this natural at all. Try working on one area at a time e.g. where to look, then once you’re more comfortable, move onto the next.
The biggest hurdle you may have is simply being in a calm state of mind when you present, and the rest feels much easier once you are. If you know you have your turn to speak coming up, deep and slow breaths ahead of time will help ground you. After the first minute or two, take a mental note of how you’re feeling and realise you’re doing okay and carry on!
Miserable-Ad6941@reddit
Practise the whole presentation out loud, do not jsut think about what you would say for each slide actually say it out loud. I got over my fear by booking empty seminar rooms at uni when I was a student and practising to empty rows. I went on to be a lecturer. I weirdly enjoy them now
Nice-Independent-941@reddit
I have panic attacks, lose my voice, breathing goes wrong etc when I have to speak in public and the one thing that helped was joining my local Toastmasters group. They are a public speaking club where you can practice standing up in front of club members (50 ISH people at mine) and present a 5 minute talk on anything. The more I did it there in that "safe space" the more I knew I could manage it at work. Kind of wore the fear down. Flip side is that I stopped going to Toastmasters and now I'm terrified again
Obvious-Water569@reddit
Where I work we have a monthly communications meeting where updates about the business are shared along with financials, new members of staff... things like that.
It's in front of about 150 people and every so often, as the head of IT, I have to present updates.
I'd never done anything like that before I started working here and it was definitely nervewracking the first time.
There's no cheat code. You just have to do it. It gets easier with time.
Phainesthai@reddit
Having a wank beforehand usually calms the nerves.
The_Witcher_3@reddit
I used to dread public speaking of any kind but it was an unavoidable part of my job. I like to massively over prepare for any event. I want to be a master of my topic and have played through my talk many times in my head well before I walk on to a conference stage. If I don't prepare fully then anxiety will come flooding back into my frame as I think about 'what if I forget this and that etc'.
Remember that everyone else watching you wants you to succeed. It's awkward for the audience when the speaker loses their way. No one wants you to fail.
Repetition is the only way you're going to reduce your anxiety long-term. I think you need to enjoy preparing and honing your speaking skills. If every speech is just some massive adversity to overcome, then you will always be fuelled by adrenaline and praying for the end. As corny as it sounds, you need to try and enjoy the opportunity to develop a new skill.
hiddenkinkz@reddit
I’ve trained people to do exactly this (public speaking) - for many years now. I’ve specialised in public speaking as part of my role before I retired. There are a few tricks that can help (perhaps obvious, so forgive me): 1) Practice - I know this is obvious, but not just on your own. Find colleagues willing to help (or family members) - and practice your speech with them providing critical feedback. The stakes are much less as it’s practice, but you will get some of that nervous feelings. You should get to the point where you know the words without looking at any script. But… for the very nervous speaker - you write down single prompt words for each “point” of each part of the speech (like the word “RESULTS” if you were speaking about results of a project for example) - these visual word prompts will help you if you get lost.
2) SLOW DOWN - nervous speakers want to rush through their speech to just get it over with - but this makes you breathless and the moment you are breathless your body will slip into fight, flight or freeze. Use pauses between your sentences - honestly, if it sounds too long of a pause it’s probably about right.
3) The science bit - Cortisol is your stress hormone, and as a nervous speaker it will be flooding through your system. There are scientifically proven methods to reduce cortisol in your system. a) sit in a “power pose” for 15 minutes before speaking. This is a pose where you are “exposed” in the biologically vulnerable areas - meaning open neck (head up a bit) - open chest (arms by your side not across your chest) - legs apart with your hands NOT in your lap. Then do something called box breathing - press your tongue to the floor of your mouth, breath in through your nose for 4, and out through your mouth for 6 and repeat. This activates certain nerve pathways that help reduce cortisol. If you want to read about this stuff - look up Professor Amy Cuddy and her Cortisol study.
4) Know what to do with your hands, eyes and feet. Feet first - plant them on the floor shoulder width apart pointing at your audience - your feet tell your brain where you want to go - most nervous speakers feet point at the door or away. Don’t kick your feet or swing your legs. Move deliberately - move and plant, move and plant. Next, hands - look up something called the power pose - Angela Merkel did this the best. Basically you bring your hands back to your centre line about 1 inch above and out from your belt. Use your hands to tell your story, but they will look more comfortable and feel more relaxed to you and this will take some nerves away. Next - eyes. If you are crippled by nerves and you know your audience members (at least one of them) - ask for help from one person you like. Ask them to sit in the middle, about half way back and then you can return your eyes to them (ask them to smile when you do) - if you feel overwhelmed - you present to just them - no one else. If you feel more relaxed, then cast your eyes just over the heads of the people at the back - the audience will feel like you are presenting to all of them.
These things work - I’ve trained literally hundreds of people, from junior staff to CEO’s. Everyone gets nervous - you should know that being nervous means that you care, and that’s awesome. You can help your primal brain feel more relaxed with these methods. Good luck!
PsychologicalRun1911@reddit
Practice. That's really it, but a couple different meanings there.
Practice giving presentations in general. School was great for that for me, I got to give 50-100 presentations over the year. Probably was the main skill I picked up, just try to volunteer for it at work or get a new job where you need to speak.
Second is practicing your specific presentation. I use to just read it over when I was younger but you need to literally practice it out loud do a full run through exactly as you would if you were doing it for real.... And here's the real part. You need to do it like 10x. When I speak at a conference and I'm doing an important speech I might actually run through it 20-30x. I know people would say that excessive but when you do it that many times it just comes out when you're on stage you don't even think about it... And even if the nerves hit in a moment.. it still comes out. When I use to be under prepared the combination of nerves and needing to think about what I'm good to say next are what broke me and screwed it up.
toec@reddit
I used to hate public speaking. I choked when I was forced to speak in front of the company. I choked at my wedding.
Now I’m happy presenting to a thousand strangers. The main thing that helped was presenting a lot, like every two weeks for 10 years. It became no big deal, like anything else you’ve done a bunch of times. But that doesn’t really help you right now.
Being confident in the things that you’re talking about makes a big difference. If I don’t understand something then I’ll make that caveat at the beginning and admit that it’s something I’m still learning. If I’m trying to sell something I don’t believe in then I won’t present, because it comes across as inauthentic and I wobble.
I hate trying to learn presentations verbatim and never read the text that’s on the slides, and for that matter put as little text on the slides as possible. The slides are there as a prop for what you’re trying to say.
What works for me is talking about a subject I care about and have knowledge on, then talking about it in the same way that I’d talk about it to friends at the pub. It feels less performative and less unnatural and people respond to it better.
smushs88@reddit
I’m similar, can’t say I’ve ever worked out how to completely remove the fear / anxiety as last time I presented a few months back to 40 odd people I was just an anxious before.
I know it’s upcoming so try and form the mental approach of, it’s coming anyway so don’t think about it and just do it when the time comes.
The only other thing I’ve ever found works for me in terms of minimising some of the anxiety prior is probably the polar opposite of what others would advise but I don’t strictly practise or have a script I try memories.
I’ll review my slides, pick out one or two key points to think about for each beforehand but I won’t put together a script as such. I found when I was younger and had to do orals as part of coursework I would go through everything I wanted to say to the point when it was time to present, with the anxiety I’d then blurt everything out at 100 mph to make sure I didn’t forget anything. By basically “winging it” for lack of a better phrase, I speak at a more natural pace despite the anxiety as I’m processing what I want to say rather than rattling through it as quickly as possible.
andy0506@reddit
Learning every bit of what you need to say but About 10% of people in all presentations dont really listen so the best thing to do is concentrate on the people that are
Optimesh@reddit
“The worst that can happen is a terrible 20-30 mins and then it’s over. Nobody cares or keeps lists of the worst speakers in history”
Honest_Bug96@reddit
Yes. I forced myself out of my comfort zone and attended a work event where we went into a young carers charity to help them with interview skills. One of the skills was how to give presentations. As such, I was forced to demonstrate public speaking.
As a result of this, I thought I had overcome my fear and went on to become a teacher. I was wrong.
In teaching, you are constantly observed. This, once again, caused me fear.
I was given my first school placement. My mentor immediately sensed the anxiety I had over the public speaking part of the role. She did not pander to it - she urged me to immediately teach the first lesson she had planned for the day. She said the longer I waited, the worse the fear would become. So I did it.
Exposure therapy - the best way is to force yourself to do what makes you most uncomfortable. You can’t grow and develop in the comfort zone.
However, I was still not fully ‘comfortable’ until I became more accepting of myself. I had always been insecure, worried what others thought of me, low self esteem, etc. I went to therapy, I worked on myself and my self belief. I left a bad relationship and found someone who was my biggest cheerleader. Naturally, as I became happier in my own skin, the public speaking part of my job became easier. Now, it’s second nature.
TalkDirty2MyIVR@reddit
Propranolol and doing it regularly. I’ve done a few webinars to 500+ people now would’ve shit myself if you told me that a year and a half ago lmao
shredditorburnit@reddit
I was a bit iffy about it as a kid until we had an embarrassing situation with a school project (I was 14 or 15 then, can't remember exactly).
We were meant to be doing a group presentation, but none of us had bothered. Anyway, the RE teacher was quite strict on a good day and for some reason the headmaster (very strict on a good day) was also sitting in.
We got called first, which was not ideal.
I had an idea so I said "follow my lead" quietly to the rest of my group as we went up to the front of the class.
Proceeded to bullshit like a master. Used the assignment sheet as a prompt and made it an interactive experience, which was helpful because I only knew about 1/4 of it. However, that 1/4 was enough to give the presentation, pulling answers out of the rest of the class when I didn't know it myself, rest of my group joined in and we got through it. One of the guys was shy so I gave him the board marker and said "just write key words down as we go".
Ended up getting complimented for how good it was by the teacher.
As a result, speaking about something I actually know about has seemed quite simple since.
So my advice would be to get up in front of 30 teenage boys and two adult men and talk confidently for 10 minutes about something you know next to nothing about. If you can do that without getting booed or bullied, what have you possibly got to worry about?
DontCatchThePigeon@reddit
The best advice I was given was that you only have to be half a step ahead of your audience, and they'll assume you're ten steps ahead.
Counter intuitively, I found the less I cared, the better it went. That's not to say that I didn't prep, but just that I realised that honestly, the worst case scenario was that people I didn't know were a bit bored for an hour. Once I could tap into that 'so what?' frame of mind, I could relax into it way more.
Another thing to remember is that loads of people hate/are terrified of public speaking, and the audience mostly doesn't notice. I remember chatting to someone really high up in my field (like OBE level) and he excused himself because he had to go throw up because of the anxiety before he gave his talk. I found it oddly reassuring as proof that anxiety in public speaking won't stop you progressing and doing well at work.
I hope you find something that works for you.
Sleepyllama23@reddit
The thing I worry about the most is blushing when I speak to large or medium groups. I go bright red and I can feel myself burning up which makes me blush even more. V embarrassing. I found some light green tinted foundation to wear under normal foundation, which counters redness. Once I know the burning feeling isn’t obvious to others I calm down and blush less. Also slowing my breathing as I can get out of breath/shallow breathing when I’m really nervous.
RaveyDGravy@reddit
My university lecturer drummed into us that if you're well prepared and you know what you're talking about that's about all you can do. Other than that, it is mostly experience so it should just come with time. If you do stumble/forget where you are, resist the urge to rush on past, take a deep breath and take your time to compose yourself before you continue. As others have said, nobody you're presenting to wants to see someone fail (or at least they shouldn't), they're there to take interest in what you have to say.
If over time it just doesn't get any easier then maybe it just isn't for you.....
SportTawk@reddit
What I did was to do presentations to people in another office, not to my peers initially till I developed my own style.
I could do this because our HQ was in a different location to the smaller regional office I worked at, but my area of work, web apps, was centralised and er had monthly meetings at HQ.
It worked for me.
Good luck
One more thing I them moved to training which was a stand up in front of groups explaining stuff.
Charon13_TB@reddit
I overcame it by putting myself forward for presentations, started small and now have been regularly presented in front of 300 to 400 people at company wide events.
Graded Exposure is what did for me, hope this helps
TimeTimeClock@reddit
I have to speak a lot for my job, so practice really did reduce nerves for me although I will still shake.
I think what might make it easier for you if practice hasn't quelled the feeling of dread is if you start small, e.g.
choose a topic that you're very interested in/that you know a lot about, like a hobby or even yourself (so you're less worried about content);
choose a small audience of friendly people (sometimes friends and family are not less nerve wracking so I'll leave that for you to decide - my friend went to Toastmasters regularly for this);
make it shorter initially so that it's less daunting to prepare for and less hassle to try again and again.
Alternatively, I've heard people try get into theatre because they don't have to think about what to say, or where to go- just the being in front of an audience. Have you played charades?
Groundbreaking-End92@reddit
I put on a persona. I did school shows as a child so I was used to being on stage, but tend to shut up when I'm in a group of more than 6 people, even if they're friends. I'm a lecturer and my class sizes can be up to 250, and so when I go to the front, I take off my shoes to feel grounded and become insert name the lecturer. I use the removing shoes as a teaching moment, to talk about how people don't always show things in normal ways but you can pick up cues. Taking my shoes off allows me to feel the ground better, makes me calmer and helps my "performance". I still get so nervous teaching every time, but I am able to distance myself from the teaching when I'm doing it. It might not work for you, but that is my unique way of dealing with it that I made myself, and maybe you can to find your own way too.
Donkey-Haughty@reddit
Propranolol, speak to your doctor. This is exactly the situation I use it for. Life changing
takenawaythrowaway@reddit
I realised that no one actually care or remembers about how you present anything. If you think back to the presentations youve seen can you actually remember when anyone said something wrong or was a bit boring?
Probably not.
Once I realised that I stopped caring and just started presenting and then it got pretty easy. I'm the same with talking to people on the phone. Used to hate it but then I realised no one really cares about how you say things. Just the content of what you say. If you can be super engaging and everything then obviously that's ideal. But 99% of people are not.
EuropoBob@reddit
I haven't 'gotten over' my anxiety of speaking in public but I have tried not to let it win.
I used to go to church with my wife. I am not anti religion in any serious way but I do find church and religion to be boring. After a few services, I decided to break up the monotony by volunteering to do a reading.
The week before I was told what they would like me to read so I would practice it beforehand. The services were never very busy, up to 50 was usually the max. And the audience is very charitable to people making mistakes. Overall it was helpful to tackle the anxiety of public speaking.
yes1402@reddit
Self refer yourself to NHS talking therapies. It was previously called IAPT.
Your GP can also refer you. Talk to your GP
If you want to pay for private therapy, make sure you are getting it from a qualified cognitive behavioural therapist that is accredited. You can find this from BABCP website. CBT is best for social anxiety
BABCP stands for British association for behavioural and cognitive psychotherapy
Majestic_Matt_459@reddit
I have a decent trick - I start by telling them a funny story thats relevant and a quick bullet point of what im going to be talkign about without giving too much away (so theyre not ahead of me) - so eg say its a meeting about a new parking app that rewards you for parking in XYZ car parks all the time and has some other super duper features
So id be "Hi everyone - then amend this joke slightly - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9PUkw6ZxvMY and id show some clips of people really screwing up in car parks - (try and get funny enough good ones the room is laughing - theyll they'll be on your side but do less than 5 mins or they'll get bored) - Then Id say a bit about people having loads of apps on their phone - then id bullet point the problems with the existing set up - and id say "we're going to make using our App more fun - let me tell you how - start talk
theloniousmick@reddit
Weirdly I'd rather speak to 100 people I don't know than 10 I do. Il likely never see the others again it my mates will rip me relentlessly.
InvestigatorSoft3606@reddit
Never fully comfortable, but I've given a few talks at conferences with 100+ people watching.
These days - I start by acknowledging that I'm nervous to the audience and try to make a small joke about it. I'll also over prepare if I can, making slides and a script.
If things go well, I dont need the script but if I feel myself being overcome with nerves i can switch from speaking naturally to reading the pre-prepared text.
Ill tend to automatically choose 2 or 3 faces in the audience - maybe someone you know, and give the talk as if you are just talking to those people, make eye contact and try to be natural.
Other thing i do, - and I do this for everything I'm apprehensive about - Is tell myself, in X minutes \ hours \ days this will be over and i can relax. I find this keeps me calm before hand and the knowledge it will be over soon helps me get through it.
Track_Mammoth@reddit
Read ‘Think Faster, Talk Smarter’ by Matt Abrahams. Has a chapter on speech anxiety.
Fellattio_Nelson@reddit
Gin.
Willsagain2@reddit
There may be a public speaking group at your workplace or in the wider community, which some folk find helpful in learning to speak before a supportive group who give useful feedback.
MadJohnFinn@reddit
I found that I was nervous to go on stage to speak, but not to play music. I didn’t really understand why until I had a band where I’d just sing for a few songs without a guitar. Suddenly, I felt really vulnerable.
The guitar was a shield and it gave me something to do with my hands. Put something between yourself and your audience and give yourself something to do with your hands. It did wonders for me.
beseeingyou18@reddit
Nervousness is very similar to excitement. Is there a way you could reframe the task as something you enjoy rather than something you dread?
chicken-farmer@reddit
Yup . But it only works if you know your subject well. Stop rehearsing it, have a few bullet points and wing it!
R2-Scotia@reddit
Toastmasters ?
ConstantPurpose2419@reddit
Following because I am exactly the same. Public speaking is my only phobia - always has been. The only thing that got me through in the past is being ridiculously over prepared, but even that I hated every second of it. I hate people looking at me for starters, so I always try and have visuals in the hope that people will look at them instead of me.
UniquePotato@reddit
Be absolutely certain that you know the subject inside out and correct. Self doubt is one of the biggest confidence killers.
Purp1eMagpie@reddit
Considering I feel consumed by dread just reading this, I'm gonna say I'm not much help
mrafinch@reddit
I did a public speaking competition during sixth form which really helped.
Now, in my late 30s, despite being introverted as fuck and a general loner, I’ve managed to fall into a training role at my employer.
My strategy is to just play a role. I’m no longer u/mrafinch but u/trainerextraordinaire! I’ve also been sent to a lot of courses on how to “seem” confident and composed, which helps.
Day after tomorrow I have a two day course to give and absolutely bricking it… but I know Trainer Extraordinaire is gonna be great :)
Existingsquid@reddit
You need to think about those 10 years of practice as skills, insights, strategies and knowledge. At 10 years practice of any skill you need to start looking at strategy gaps, positives/negatives, sit down have a couple of hours thinking about it, practice only gets you so far, next steps is getting a mentor.
Pan-tang@reddit
Just know your subject. Do the prep and realise you are trying to help them or get them interested. Also SPEAK LOUDLY.
anal_fist_fight24@reddit
I did this. It helped a LOT:
https://www.glossophobia.co.uk/online-program
(although my full panic attack response wasn’t resolved until I was diagnosed with ADHD 3-4 years later which seemed to be the root cause.)
Bowtie327@reddit
Yep, used to be scared to death, then my parents signed me up to an acting troop
Going on stage was nightmare fuel, but I’d stand in the wing waiting for my cue, 3, 2, 1….and go. Once you’re out there, you cant turn back, so give it your all, I’ve carried that with me every time I’ve had to present to people at work
koyliMeld9003@reddit
The time - honoured method was to imagine your audience naked!
ahmeouni@reddit
Proplanalol
Anubis1958@reddit
I was once with the drummer of a huge super band and asked him how he coped with the fear of performing in front of 85,000 people.
"Vodka, my dear. Vodka and cocaine".
Delicious_Bet_6336@reddit
Can you video yourself? Do others latch on to this feeling? It might not be as "bad" as you fear.
For me, it was being entirely comfortable with the content. Once that was nailed, rehearsed & majority banked, I could ad hoc adjust as necessary.
Bit like driving - all overwhelming initially but then your subconscious takes over so you can focus on the changeable conditions
simppogg@reddit
Expect to stumble and make mistakes but acknowledge when you do. A smile and “of course I meant to say …” if you blurt out something wrong shows the audience youre human and engaged with the material rather than a robot reading out a script. You can also try focusing on a couple of people near the front who are reactive (nodding etc) when you speak to make it feel more like a conversation - make eye contact and gesture towards them as you would when talking to friends.
TomLondra@reddit
I remember the first time I gave my first university lecture. I was absolutely useless. Later on, as I gained more experience, I realised that you have to be "aggressive" to the audience: catch their interest and hold it. After a while, it becomes very rewarding once you have learned the art of speaking in public. Speak to the person at the back of the room, not to the people in the front row.
sindher@reddit
What do you think is the main factor when you have to speak? The amount of people? Not knowing the answer to a question?
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