9070xt, wait a bit longer to buy a 5080, or wait for 60 series / UDNA if it ever comes out?

Posted by Kyokyodoka@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 42 comments

A returning question from back in the day:

Worried about longevity of the parts since I don't upgrade my computer often, and don't know what the future holds. I was gaslit by the internet into thinking the Supers will drop and now I am terrified that I am going to spend way too much money now when the 60 series gpus could drop next year or next decade?

Also worried about reliability / capability of the 9000 series since I don't want to have a 7900xtx of the modern era and I worry about it aging like milk like it (see the FSR4 crisis AMD has and poor post launch support).

So...what do I do now? I feel like I have no option valid enough to service me here and I worry if I buy anything below a 5070ti I am actively hurting myself in the long term due to Vram and technology? I only play single player games, but I also worry that if I am not buying the absolute best I am going to be let down and I worry that people are trying to hitch my ship to a bad experience since I have been burned before with AMD laptops years ago.

Originally I was just thinking I should just wait but my 2070S and I7-9700k is already feeling sluggish and I got her during Covid. So I worry it won't survive until I can replace her entirely and then I am out of luck entirely. So...what do I do? Note my budget for a GPU is around 1300 in totality but I want to upgrade more then that hopefully? So I am stuck.

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KFC_Junior@reddit

rumours (started from whats been credited as an insider) are already saying that fsr5 wont be on rdna4 cards lmao. with amd's track record i really wouldnt be surprised if it is true

ChocolateNeat4489@reddit

Rumors state otherwise https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-fsr-5-scarlet-cortex/

in reply to your edit, we do know enough about fsr5 diamond to say that your tpu april fools article is complete bullshi. they are not doing a yassification filter, they are doing just upscaling and probably MFG

And that's absolutely fine by me.Refrain from repeating rumours if you are shilling for nVidia - your comments history clearly shows that.

I am glad you removed your initial reply calling me "brain-dead" in the crusade of defending a multi trillion corpo that is a king of sleazy, anticompetitive BS.

bro are you braindead, look at the date that was posted and tpu is the only one mentioning it. not to mention thats not an upscaler thats the same shit as nvidias new yassification filter

gibbarish@reddit

I just upgraded from 3700x and 2070 super last week to 7600x3d and 9070xt and it's night and day. At 1440p the performance is everything I wanted and it's nice and stable. Getting 100-120 fps in crimson desert with fsr quality and 85 ish native, max settings RR off though.

JohnnyJ240@reddit

I have the same setup you had and I’m have been thinking of doing exactly what you did, I play on 1440p ultrawide tho, what were your other game fps boosts like?

Everything else has been butter. Starfield max, path of exile 1 and 2 locked at 144fps.. honestly it's like x3 performance overall

Hell yeah, thanks!

gen_adams@reddit

5080 was always one of the worst bang/buck options even at release. I'd imagine it's price also skyrocketed since the announcements in january so I could not imagine ever deciding with an 5080 as it barely gives any more horsepower compared to a card that is half it's price basically. but yall decide, if you need that extra 4 FPS for $600 more then go ahead

andygorhk@reddit

It's good for VR. Only reason I'm considering it over 5070ti

whatever suits you. guess you'll play everything in VR? :) (I'm also pretty sure 9070XT can do VR about as fine)

NicePinstripe@reddit

I don't think you'll be hurting yourself as such, the 5070ti is very capable. Recently me and a friend both upgraded, he opted for the 5070ti as he good a good price on it and wanted the extra features/support in games. I went for the 9070xt purely for the value. Both are very good cards, neither of us have really had any issues.

I was a little worried about fsr support, and can say the frame gen on AMD doesn't seem to be as smooth, but honestly I just play in native and don't use either of them and it runs fine. This is with a 5800x as well, so no doubt it would perform better if you have a newer setup.

No_Device_6605@reddit

9700K can't handle a 5070Ti

Intrepid-Scale2052@reddit

Unless you plan on gaming in 4k the 9070xt and 5070ti should hold up. I got the 5070ti because i needed it for cuda. But if you find the 9070xt for much cheaper id go with that. With dlss/fsr i expect they will hold up at least 3 years in 1440p gaming

zabbenw@reddit

I don't think there will be a vram crisis because ram is so expensive and so many gamers are stuck on 8gb cards.

Personally, I think the 5070 is the best value for money, and I'd get that, and any money you save you can use to upgrade in the future.

Funny-Carob-4572@reddit

9070xt is fine.

I have it with a 9800x3D.

No issues but haven't tried any path tracing which it's not great at apparently but for the price (565) what I paid it's a steal, plays everything at 4k in ultra and isn't screwed by ray tracing too much either

prank_mark@reddit

I'd go for the 9070 XT. AMD's drivers for this generation are actually better than Nvidia's. But it really depends on the price. If the difference is 15% or less, I'd say the 5070 Ti is also a good choice. Anything above that and the 5070 Ti becomes a waste of money.

FantasticBike1203@reddit

the 5070ti isn't a bad call, it will last you a long time and honestly won't feel like a waste of money, 5080 and above are honestly purely enthusiast level cards.

Depending on where OP is, a 5070 Ti could be more than 40% more expensive than a 9070 XT. I'd say that's quite a big waste of money.

TortieMVH@reddit

Get what you can afford now. 5070, 9070xt, 5070ti, it doesnt matter. If its not capable of running your games in a couple of years just sell it use that money with a bit of addon and get a new card.

dabbers4123@reddit

I returned my 5070ti I got for 820 for a 9070xt at 579.99. Gotta love mircocenters return policy with insurance. Honestly they perform damn near even and ones 250 cheaper and ive seen more sales for.

Australasian25@reddit

2 people in my household upgraded from nvidia to 9070xt.

No problem and I wish I did it sooner. It was at 550-600 dollars so definitely a steal.

9070xt because of its price, 16gb of vram is great. fsr4 redstone has been good to me. I use optiscaler for games that don't natively support redstone, so that's not an issue for me.

If you play games with anticheat, nvidia might be the way to go because you don't inject dll for optiscaler.

So the question is, what games do you want to play it with?

BedroomThink3121@reddit

If you can get a 5080 in your budget, buy it right now

GodReignz@reddit

Just read dude, he has the 2070S

thefuzzylogic@reddit

Nothing good is going to be released until memory chip prices come down or inflation catches up. Nvidia's product strategy is moving further away from gamers with each generation, so I doubt there will be a 6000 card at the $600 tier.

If you're using the card primarily for gaming or light compute workloads (AI inferencing rather than training, etc) then pick up the 9070 XT now and sell/trade it in later if something compelling comes along in 2027.

MrMiggseeksLookatme@reddit

5070ti now and call it a day I had two builds 5080+7800x3d +5070ti 7800x3d

Both worked well for 4k over 100 fps DLSS on of course

Loyal_Dragon_69@reddit

The case in your ideal build is smaller than an RTX 5080 but large enough to accommodate most RX 9070xt cards.

Rare-Photo7592@reddit

I tried a 5070 ti, 5080 and a 9070xt. The two nvidia gpus gave me nothing but problems. The 9070xt has been rock solid and a great performer so stick with that and it was obviously the cheapest. I don’t plan to change for 5 years.

RedditsGreatestOAT@reddit

I’ve heard people say otherwise, constant problems with the 9070xt. I bought a 5070ti myself and have no issues, runs perfectly.

Betancorea@reddit

Got a 9070XT. Never had a problem. Runs perfectly, literally Plug and Play lol

Newegg and Microcenter both offer payment plans now. It's not ideal but it could get the job done you. Also I'm providing links to graphics card close to the $1300 price cap/range that might be future proof enough for you. https://www.microcenter.com/product/709007/intel-arc-pro-b70-single-fan-32gb-gddr6-pcie-50-graphics-card https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-tech-32358-01-20g-radeon-ai-pro-r9700-32gb-graphics-card/p/N82E16814202462 https://www.newegg.com/asrock-challenger-rx9070xt-cl-16g-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814930145 https://www.newegg.com/msi-rtx-5080-16g-shadow-3x-oc-geforce-rtx-5080-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814137914?item=N82E16814137914 Two of these are workstation cards (technically) but are based off of midrange cards and have 32gb of Vram. A comparison video of their 4k gaming capabilities is below. https://youtu.be/xp3Y4N-XLgo?si=12nZ_Q9BVjI5CFaK

Any-Can-6776@reddit

I was thinking about 9060xt but I like nvidia ray tracing performance

Competitive_Owl_2096@reddit

You wait until 60 series at least. 5080 is not anyway near worth the upgrade unless your a millionaire with disposable income.

im36degrees@reddit

Terrible advice. You really think a 5080 is a bad upgrade over a 2070s?

december-32@reddit

He will be bottlenecked by 9700k anyway, and it is a well known fact nvidia gpu are way overpriced. Might as well upgrade cpu for the price difference of 5080 and 9070xt.

BloodMongor@reddit

Curious what’s sluggish. My Covid era 2070/9900k still feel fine with everything I’ve thrown at it.

socklessgoat@reddit

I switched from a 7900XTX to a 5080, much better card and if you're planning on doing anything other than playing games the 5080 is a decent upgrade over the 9070XT too.

schrodingersOdderon@reddit

By all you're saying the 5070 Ti is ideal for you right now, so just get that, you won't regret it.

Not sure if the rest of your build is from the "ideal build" link, but that is way overkill fo 99% of people

Elitefuture@reddit

60 series + udna is delayed till at least 2027. And with the rate of ai taking over + memory prices exploding, they don't really have any incentives to sell a next gen gpu. Nvidia just does it since they want to dominate it. But amd can't release their's first since nvidia's margins are so high that nvidia can just undercut amd if amd went first.

That's to say, I'd get a gpu now and enjoy it. I'm hoping prices go down, but it's not looking too great. 5080 for $1300 when it was $1k a few months ago feels terrible. Especially when the 5080 was getting flamed at $1k already.

The 9070 xt is the closest to msrp so it's what I'd recommend. But if money doesn't matter, the. The 5080 is good. 5070 ti kinda feels bad since it's around the 9070 xt but costs like $300 more.

felesmiki@reddit

it might feel slugish but, i would suggest change platform, go to am5, u will notice a big improvement, the 2070S its a decent gpu still, sure not the best, but its still decent and can still do things