ULPT How to get revenge on asshat terrorizing our community?
Posted by mfortelli@reddit | UnethicalLifeProTips | View on Reddit | 62 comments
So my wife and I live in a condo. An older, single guy lives next door - let’s call him Bill.
Bill is outwardly nice but it turns out is quite a horrible person.
His less savory displays of asshattery include banging a bucket up and down the driveway when he’s mad at the HOA, speeding in and out of the driveway and honking his horn at odd hours of the night and morning to rattle people, forwarding emails about mass shootings to people he doesn’t like in the community and praising the behavior, recently buying a handgun and threatening to shoot people in the head, most threats are directed at the older women who live here alone, parking closely to people so they can’t get into their cars or out of driveways when he has his own garage, suing the HOA because he “slipped” somewhere that he wants changed to his preferences, recently sabotaging our attempt to buy an odd, connected and empty concrete slab adjoining our bedroom that ostensibly should be our condo’s terrace but was evidently messed up when the building was converted and wrongly allocated to communal space… it has hedges around it and other units have terraces and ours doesn’t / the unit was sold to us on the pretense this was part of it… All owners agreed to move this forward, but Bill waged a war in the above ways and the HOA showed me his email trail saying the most heinous things about my wife and I…
TL;DR he is a hugely awful human and I want to slowly but surely bring justice down upon him, preferably through a series of constant, recurring, costly discomforts and annoyances leading him to sell / leave…
Connect_Use2528@reddit
If there was ever an applicable time for a piss disc under the door, this is it.
superlaffytaffy@reddit
Be careful. You might be the next star of a true crime documentary.
Some people are unhinged. Butttt.....
Sign him up for every junkmail magazine you can find, including Christian, do-gooder, and charity you can think of.
jueidu@reddit
Ethical and safe: Record everything. Call cops for every single incident. The second he doesn’t anything toward you: restraining order. Sue for distress, get your neighbors to join you in a group suit.
Unethical and unsafe: 1) Weed killer random parts of his lawn. There may or may not be sneaky ways to do this off camera, such as with cheap drones, hidden spray bottles as you walk by, freezing it and then walking by and accidentally spilling your “drink,” etc. 2) Send him anonymous cease and desist letters. Get however detailed you want to fuck with him: make up a fake law office name, create a website with a fake phone number and email (don’t register the website in your name!), and create a logo. Or use a real law office logo. Or make a fake one but no website. 3) Have his contact info, social media profile, or that of his family members, or anything like that? Start fucking with them all, using fake profiles. Pretend to be a lover form his past wanting to get in touch again - maybe he fathered a child a decade ago. Message his wife/partner that you found him on a dating app and know they’re together so wanted to warn her he’s a cheater. Heck, create the fake dating profile with his pictures form social media as “proof” you can send links too. 4) Know where he works? Leave reviews for the business that are vague about what specifically happened but mention him by name as the reason why you will never do business with them. Dont technically lie - just say “was considering [company] for [type of work] but after my experiences with [his name] we will NEVER do business here and will warn all of our friends and family not to, either! Unbelievable!” 5) If he ever parks outside of his garage, sabotage his car. A little bit of oil under the wiper blades will take AGES of hard word to stop streaking. Day-old boiled broccoli water in the hood vent will stink like rotten garbage forever. Paint thinner sprayed onto the paint. Tiny pebble in the valve stem cap for a slow leak. 6) With a little bit of money you can mail him stuff from Amazon and he’ll have no idea who it’s from. They have some weeeeeirdddd shit on Amazon. 1in plastic naked babies, dildos, offensive stickers regarding any subject bound to piss him off (politics, religion, use your imagination). 7) Anytime you talk with him or email him or communicate with him in any way, fuck with him. Call him the wrong name/never the same name twice. Look at his nose instead of in his eyes. Correct him about your name even when he gets it right. Like if he calls you John be like “it’s John, actually.” Tell him WILD but short things and then pretend you never said that, have no idea what he’s talking about. Gaslight him by denying reality - if he complains about a sound, you can’t hear it. If he compliments the weather, agree that the rain is bound to stop any day now. Give him weird complements like “oh I love your hair, what an interesting color!” or “where did you get your shirt? I’ve never seen anything like that before, I gotta tell my son about this, he’ll get a real kick out of it.” Does he have kids? Pretend you don’t know. Does he not have kids? Ask him how they are doing.
Don’t overdo it - these are just ideas, but using them all in a short window will be too obvious, be subtle for maximum fuckery.
FrequentPerception@reddit
Wellness check. Every. Single. Time.
inaSlomp@reddit
I know this is unethical life pro tips. BUT This sounds like someone in a spiral. Dude is not okay and needs help.
Especially now that dude has a gun.
This sounds like the backstory of somebody who snaps and goes on a killing spree of like 6 to 12 people.
I hope you find some good solutions that don't set them off.
Sorry_Option4711@reddit
Now I'm not a fan of red flag laws in general and believe they are often used unjustly and maliciously. That being said this seems to be 100% the reason these laws are on the books. If this applies to your state report him to the police so they can at the very least get the out of his possession.
Miserable_Drawer_556@reddit
That dude ain't right, or responsible.
Charlie24601@reddit
He threatened to shoot people in the head.
This is time to call the police.
10before15@reddit
Agreed
Over-Bug1501@reddit
Indeed
grasshoppa_80@reddit
And then piss disc around his door or car?
MrBannedFor0Reason@reddit
I mean if he has a habit of threatening to shoot people in the head it should be really easy to kill him in a manner that would appear legal. If you know with a reasonable amount of certainty that he will be armed at a given time, getting away with it should be as easy as pulling his gun from his waistband after he's down.
RiddyReddit333@reddit
Why even bother with this post. 100% report to police for these matters:
1) forwarding emails about mass shootings to people he doesn’t like in the community and praising the behavior
2) recently buying a handgun and threatening to shoot people in the head, most threats are directed at the older women who live here alone
3) parking closely to people so they can’t get into their cars or out of driveways
These are all intimidating threats and all are documented (well, #3, just take photos).
Terrible_Analysis_77@reddit
You don’t have to do anything unethical. Bill’s going to jail sooner or later for firearm threats.
scratchtheitch7@reddit
Start a YouTube channel called My Neighbour Bill. Record every little detail and upload it all.
The final episode will be epic
frederichenrylt@reddit
Send a variety of these every so often with a mysterious note like "I know what you did" and then a few weeks later "this reminded me of you" https://dicksbymail.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoqI2B_Kpu5t41TTe4J1KGxh_dkazX45zc9dzKQCMpMQ0srGqQHg
HandshakeOfCO@reddit
Gunshot triangulation ears are only accurate to dozens of feet. Next time Bill is out, fire your gun up in the air several times, then call in to say you heard gunshots and there’s a deranged man walking around.
Make sure to wear gloves at least, preferably a full protective suit (like spray painters use), and ditch the suit outside.
idfkjack@reddit
Wtf is wrong with you??? BLANKS!! For blanks into the air. Where tf do you think bullets go when fired up into the air??? You think they just disappear??? I really hope that you aren't a gun owner.
HandshakeOfCO@reddit
The detectors can hear the difference between live rounds and blanks.
Also maybe check the subreddit you’re in lol
idfkjack@reddit
Yeah, it's unethical tips, not ILLEGAL tips....
HandshakeOfCO@reddit
Obviously I’m not actually going to fire a gun straight up into the air. That would be idiotic.
You must be new here so let me spell it out: all the tips on here are illegal. Piss discs will land you on a sexual predator liar. Every other “tip” on here is illegal.
Stupidity has no limits, so I guess it needs to be said:
DO NOT DO ANY OF THE SHIT IN THIS SUB IN REAL LIFE.
Jesus fuck I bet you’re fun at parties. Touch grass.
_AJK_@reddit
I suggest going into your local PD and ask to speak to a detective. Let them know about the firearms and threats. Give them the names of the people you believe he had threatened. My guess is them at they will interview many of your neighbors before Bill is invited over to the station to have a chat.
vinraven@reddit
Everyone he has threatened should get a Restraining Order against him.
A 300 foot order would mean he couldn’t live in the same complex as the people he’s been threatening.
Funkynipple@reddit
He threatened to kill people. The right thing to do would be to call the police and ask them to 51/50 this guy.
Unique_Anywhere5735@reddit
It can be done in numerous ways that I'm sure people in this thread will provide. I'm told such things are best when they cannot be traced back to you, though of course I have no way of knowing this for myself.
Apprehensive_Hat8986@reddit
Record it and have him arrested for uttering credible threats. Don't waste time fucking around with ULPTs.
bionicallyironic@reddit
Man, I LOVE to be petty and come up with shit to do to deserving assholes, but guns and directly threatening violence are above this sub’s pay grade. Please contact the police. Gather any evidence you can: witness statements with dates and times; copies of the forwarded emails with his comments; and take photos whenever he blocks in a car. Part of me wants to say call in a tow but I don’t know if that might trigger an outburst.
I’d also report this to the HOA. I’m sure they’re aware but make it a formal complaint so it’s on record. He’s trying to use bureaucracy to get his way but that goes both ways. Your state might have open carry laws and whatnot, but if he’s been sending emails praising gun violence to other residents AND he’s threatening to shoot folks, his behavior is worthy of notation on record. That way, should he sue, those reports would also help the HOA’s case and/or countersuit.
Be safe and don’t engage. Try to be a good neighbor where possible and escort the elderly women to their cars or doors; he might be less likely to engage if there’s a witness. Maybe some of your other neighbors could help the ladies as well. I really hope this has a good resolution.
Afraid_Baseball_3962@reddit
Depending on the state, there may be red flag laws that could force him to surrender his gun(s) to law enforcement.
BusyBullet@reddit
I was going to say this.
Thanks for beating me to it.
Definitely look into that.
crowislanddive@reddit
This is above our pay grade
I_live_once@reddit
With all the information provided, it's better to proceed ethically without exposing yourself to this lunatic. Do not try piss disc ideas and get shot in the head. The goal is to stay alive.
Yakker65@reddit
Sounds like someone needs a welfare check…
anfilco@reddit
This sounds like it's in legal territory. Compile a list of everything (actually illegal, not just irritating or unhinged) he's done and file a report. Back up the fact that you feel threatened with evidence of previous ill intent (mass shooting emails, etc). Those might not be crimes on their own but can establish a pattern of behavior. Get the people who were threatened to file as well.
Depending on your area, the cops might not be able to do much with a neighborhood dispute, but they usually can with threats of violence. Document everything going forward
EatCrud@reddit
If I told you what to do, I would be breaking several r/UnethicalLifeProTips Rules and be banned. I wish I could help, but my hands are tied.
HommeMusical@reddit
Probably they'd be a bad idea too. Escalating with an armed crazy person is a bad idea because you have more to lose than they do.
I feel everyone relentlessly calling the police over and over is the way here.
HommeMusical@reddit
I want to make a metacomment here - you posters here are all right people!
Almost everyone took this seriously and said, "This is beyond silly pranks." Which is the right answer.
Well done!
OldGeekWeirdo@reddit
Not sure where you're at, but that's illegal and unless you have cops too busy chasing bigger crooks, they'll take an interest in this.
Diligent_Owl_1896@reddit
Nails under tyres. Easy.
Haggis_HotPocket@reddit
Most restraining orders Carry a distance from you clause. With luck, maybe he can be prohibited from entering his own home?
DoallthenKnit2relax@reddit
IANAL, but since the HIA Board showed you what he said/wrote to them about you and your wife you may have grounds for a slander and/or libel suit against him.
Equivalent-Tree-9915@reddit
I have this neighbor. If his threats are in writing, contact the police. Mine was charged with just disorderly conduct, but the fact that he drinks like a fish, and has this hanging over him, because of course he didn't accept the summons, he can't drink and drive because he will automatically be incarcerated. We've been asked to drop the charges, and I said it was the only thing keeping him from killing someone on the road. Ours is batshit crazy, we also got him on trespassing and had him fined for other offenses totalling over $1.2k. You have to out bully the bully. It's the only way to deal with them.
AdhesivenessOwn8111@reddit
if there is an actual heard threat of gun violence, report to the police and they can investigate and take his gun. Get it on video so you can get a restraining order for yourself and anyone else whom he has threatened. Or please don't smear vaseline on his door handle(s) in the middle of the night provided there are no cameras around just to piss him off
catcon13@reddit
Look into whether your state allows gun violence restraining orders with the cops. If the guy has been threatening to shoot people, he's definitely a danger to others and you may be able to get his guns taken away and have him flagged in the DOJ system to prevent him buying any other guns or ammunition.
Zomgzombehz@reddit
Possibly Red Flag laws.
catcon13@reddit
Same thing. They're known as GVRO's or ERPO's (Extreme Risk Protection Orders) but the generic term is Red flag laws
PharmGbruh@reddit
Couple a well placed piss disks oughta do it
typical_mistakes@reddit
If you have access to empty 9mm shell casings, distribute some around the sidewalks and landscaping between where he parks and his front door. Do it very discreetly. Everyone will just know he's responsible, and further conjecture about what bizarre shit he's up to this time.
glorywesst@reddit
Diabolical, and easy.
Bratchan@reddit
Camera if you see him record him... Call adult services on him... Sounds like he lost his rocker.
But unethical... Send him anonymous letters saying he is being too loud and the FBI has been around. People like you and him can't be found. Be super vague about it all. And send him another like a couple weeks later of he does cut it out. Send random picture of ai photo of him be like dude FBI guy took this of you man.
glorywesst@reddit
I like your use of AI in this instance.
FaithlessnessJust243@reddit
Have you honestly thought about getting a restraining order against this guy… one of the responses to a restraining order is he has to surrender his guns!…. The guy is harassing lots of people in your neighborhood!
Human-Contribution16@reddit
He is a clear threat for violent terroristic behavior. Take all you have to the FBI
gotchafaint@reddit
Is he older? He may be suffering cognitive decline/early dementia, which makes some people mean as sin.
meddit_rod@reddit
Allies are good, and the HOA already has history with him. Team up with them, or with individuals on the committee if they don't want to act officially.
Maybe each of his direct neighbors could put a camera pointing at him. Outdoor cameras are pretty cheap now, and fakes are even cheaper.
Floodlights pointed toward his bedroom would be pretty uncomfortable.
Take a couple of his tire valve covers, glue a lentil or other very small thing inside them. Add a drop of black paint. When dry, put them back. He'll be chasing slow leaks that a tire repair place won't find. With some luck, he'll switch the valve covers around when he stops for air, so it'll keep happening to different tires.
Afraid_Baseball_3962@reddit
Working with the HOA... The enemy of your enemy might be someone you can work with (for now).
DuckyDoodleDandy@reddit
OP, if Bill put in writing that he wants to shoot people, or you can get the people who witnessed it to swear a statement, you might be able to get the police involved. The summary from above could be a good start to get the authorities attention. (Minus your desire to tick him off.)
I’m sure he needs therapy and similar help, but first, he needs to be disarmed. Prevent him harming others first.
Galavantinggoblin@reddit
I’m sorry but why are you positing here and not posting to the police?
This man can’t bother you if he’s in jail
slipperytornado@reddit
You need to call the cops. And then fuck his dad.
Ok-Faithlessness7812@reddit
Set up a “what the heck is this crazy dude doing now” account on insta and post clips. maybe he’ll get embarrassed.
EnvironmentCareful71@reddit
Fuck his dad.
More_Bigger@reddit
Im not allowed to discuss how id hypothetically handle someone pointing a gun at my neighbors due to Reddit TOS.
Glum_Improvement7283@reddit
He sounds like a teal danger to the community. Definitely needs repeatedly reported to police for every single incident. Wtf