A global food emergency: Why the closed Strait of Hormuz puts half the world’s calories at risk
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NorthStateGames@reddit
Learn to grow beans and start composting with worms.
Beans store easily but you need to learn how to cook them. Tons of things you can do with them.
Worm composting gives you great soil from your food scraps and gives you worm castings, which are incredible fertilizer. Once you get a colony of worms going, you can divide and grow more. (Always a protein source or you can fish with them too).
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
Can that be done in desert conditions (just curious, genuinely interested)? Thank you
zsepthenne@reddit
Look into garbanzo/chickpeas. I'm in CA where it get 100+ degrees and I was shocked to see there's garbanzos grown here. If you can find a crop report it'll help you know what grows well in your area. You'll also need to figure out your growing zone.
NorthStateGames@reddit
There are bean varietals that work in warmer conditions. I'd suggest looking into how South western native Americans grew their beans and what varietals they used.
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
I appreciate that, will investigate further. Do you know where to get the starter worms or did you just dig them up by you?
NorthStateGames@reddit
Sometimes big box stores sell them. Otherwise search for European Wrigglers. Plain Earth worms are good for your garden but not for composting. You want worms that specifically compost. And don't put composting worms in your garden, they can damage root structures.
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
Wow great to know, thank you!!
stu54@reddit
The US produces enough distillers dry grain alongside ethanol to feed 40% of Americans.
If we instead just milled and ate the feed corn we could feed every American.
volcus@reddit
Cows get fed the inedible by products of crops. For corn think cob, stem and leaves, which we as humans can't eat and would otherwise rot in the fields and release methane. And that is also 80% of the weight of the crop. We can only eat or turn into ethanol the corn kernels themselves, which is 20% of the crop by weight.
But I tell you what, I am quietly stocking up before panic starts to hit if this is not resolved in another month or so.
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
To be fair, we already do eat field (feed) corn. It is processed into foods like tortilla chips, cornmeal, and cereal. What do you propose we feed the cows and cars with? 😉 I am kidding, think I already know this is a vegan pitch. 🤔 My thoughts are that being flexible with the ways you get protein and other nutrients can really only position you in a better place as a prepper. Godspeed.
stu54@reddit
I'm not even a vegan. This is more a "do not panic" signal wrapped in anti-bacon.
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
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No_Branch_5083@reddit
So in terms of how to approach this from a prepping angle, I think it boils down to having as much food in stock as possible, learning to grow as much fruit and veg as possible, and keeping livestock like chickens if you have the room.
Anything else? I've gotten a little neurotic because the idea of my child going hungry makes me very anxious, so I've been progressively building our food supply for a few weeks now.
TeaPrimary1147@reddit
Parents will be very dangerous in the times to come. Those who had the basic decency, empathy for others and logic to remain childfree, take heed.
Eeny009@reddit
Basic decency for an animal of giving up on its primal biological imperative. Fascinating take.
TeaPrimary1147@reddit
Humans are a special animal in thatbwe have a prefontal cortex and executive functioning, meaning we should be able to plan ahead, to weigh the consequences of acting out of sheer instinct alone and consider the betterment of others. Sadly, the people who procreate because they want to, or think god told them to, or just becasue they can are populating this world en masse at this point. Which is why it's in the state that it is.
2quickdraw@reddit
It takes a smart person who's been paying attention for a long time to understand this.
TeaPrimary1147@reddit
Thank you, I agree. Most people just want to destroy anyone who points this out.
theroyalewithfromage@reddit
children are a choice to some. and a necessity for the world. insulting parents ain’t gonna get you anywhere. you’ll be thanking the next generation for making a better world than yours
TeaPrimary1147@reddit
Nope. Every generation kicks the can down the road and drops a ruined world, their generational trauma and perosnal insecurities on the shoulders of the next generation saying theyre gonna cure cancer and blah blah. ...how cone YOU didnt do all those things, hmm? The things YOUR PARENTS justified your existence with? Oh no, you just expected a trophy for living a mediocre life and then having co dom free sex and putting that responsibility onto someone else who did NOT als to be here just in time for the damn apocalypse. We're not curing anything, sitting back, watching it burn and keeping our legs closed. Like you should have
Conscious-War5920@reddit
Agreed, well said. I dont think the majority understand this until you read more, travel more and see the world for what it is. I barely understood the why till I started reading more philosophy and then it was cemented that I would never bring another life into this world. Hey if you are looking for reddit subs to belong in r/antinalism 2 is fairly welcoming sub.
adoradear@reddit
I grew up living all over the world. I have children. It’s frankly insulting of you to assume it’s people who are uneducated (btw my spouse is literally a philosopher) who decide to have children. There’s many reasons people decide to have children. There’s many reasons they decide not to. I don’t judge your choices for you, how DARE you insult me for mine!
2quickdraw@reddit
Don't take the comments so personally. It's pretty much understood that the discussion is about indiscriminate childbearing by people who shouldn't be having children because they can't ONE: give them a good life and TWO: they are really ignorant so they offer nothing by reproducing themselves incessantly, and generally make their children society's problem. There are also people who feel that they are so precious that they MUST reproduce themselves, that's a different story.
TeamRedundancyTeam@reddit
You seem to be trying to be insulted by someone who simply has a different worldview than you.
Conscious-War5920@reddit
No insult meant friend, I was just saying many people often dont pursue wanting to understand more, its good that you and your spouse did so with a background in philosophy. I apologize if I offended, but with my journey through understanding and seeing suffering in different countries and reading has made me realize it would be best to not procreate personally.
fing_delightful@reddit
You could get sterilized, and then you could have your legs however you're comfiest.
TeaPrimary1147@reddit
Already done and done. Not neccesary either since even without being sterilized I enjoyed sex and took the two seconds it takes to apply a condom to my partner so we wouldn't force someone else to exist here in hell.
loralailoralai@reddit
Sounds like you live in a pretty crappy place if it’s hell. Probably the place that voted in the idiot who’s caused this
TeaPrimary1147@reddit
Lol you are too short sighted. This evil is much greater than politics buddy. I am.Canadian. and the hell is earth
Conscious-War5920@reddit
Yeeeep, as someone who is childfree, I never expected others to think the same, but glad there are others. Biological survival of their child will pull the veneer of many in "polite" society.
No_Branch_5083@reddit
Yes, all the starving single people will just sit around and die I guess.
Big_Fortune_4574@reddit
I swear Reddit is home to some of the most toxic shit you don’t see anywhere else. Bravo
No_Branch_5083@reddit
There's nothing more tedious than the child free contingent who feel the need to constantly tell you how noble and virtuous they are.
No_Branch_5083@reddit
Hot take, edgelord. I hope you'll have the decency to look after yourself entirely as you age, I wouldn't want you to be relying on the labour of children that other people went to the trouble of raising.
drank_myself_sober@reddit
I said something similar to my father. He was asking why I prep. I told him about how some people take the lone wolf mentality, and stockpile all the 556 they can as they feel they can take from others. I explained how my preps set me up to provide for the family, but at the end of the day, at whatever cost, my child will not go hungry.
TeaPrimary1147@reddit
Yes, we know. You'd slit the throat of someone who made a better life choice than you since you operate on animal instinct and not higher brain functioning. We get it!
squeakycheetah@reddit
Glad I stayed childfree.
TeaPrimary1147@reddit
Thank you for caring about children! ❤️
ponytoaster@reddit
If it eases your anxiety at all, it's unlikely we will be genuinely out of food, it will just get more expensive and perhaps not have the wide range and access that's all. Most major countries have incredible capacity to create food in some way. For example in 2020 we couldn't get Jelly for a short period as in the UK we imported loads of ours from Portugal.
Prep for financial stability, and just buy your kids favourite shelf stable snacks more if they are made/imported outside your country or have a sale on.
There's always a war, there's always a threat to the chain, just another Tuesday for the most part. Don't let any of it consume you, but also don't let it pass you by and cause financial or access pain later!
Valuable_Option7843@reddit
Don’t forget a plan for clean water to cook with.
No_Branch_5083@reddit
Yeah, I've got loads of bottled water and at worst I could use the local brook with purification tablets.
CornDavis@reddit
A method of distillation would be very useful
cyanescens_burn@reddit
And fuel to cook with.
oneofyallfarted@reddit
Do you all think a huge shortage is coming soon? I just temporarily got laid off work so my money is tight and there’s no way for me to prep.
AllisViolet22@reddit
No one can give you a good answer without knowing where you live and your specific circumstances. Not everywhere is affected the same.
But note that you will generally get people leaning more towards the "yeah bad stuff is going to happen" crowd in this subreddit.
No_Branch_5083@reddit
I hope I'm being too cautious. Money is tight for us as well, and anything I spend on food is money I can't save for emergencies. Even just adding a few cheap cans of pulses to a shop helps build resilience.
ZixfromthaStix@reddit
Yes If you can’t spend, connect with your peers. Community is how you survive when society fails.
Squishy_Em@reddit
I was just reading about how in small spaces you can keep pigeons. They fly off during the day to forage and come home to roost. I've only just started to read about this
throwawayt44c@reddit
A solid plan to defend them, and get your neighbors a little plot to plowshare if they are food insecure.
New_Stats@reddit
I shop online and put 8 pounds of dried black beans in my cart last week. It was $9
When I finally bought everything in my cart today, it was $11
That's a 22.22% increase in one week for an incredibly cheap food.
UPdrafter906@reddit
Apples went up 40% on my wife last week in similar situation, Walmart or Meijer. iirc it changed from $1.00-$1.40ea < 12 hrs
GlitterLight@reddit
And realistically those beans were always likely in the country and ready to ship, so that’s not a supply issue. That’s profiteering
New_Stats@reddit
Realistically those beans were already at the store where I'm about to go pick them up.
Nothing changed except the price for me
Old-Introduction-337@reddit
What do you cook with those beans? I need a cheap staple in my rotations.
Daxx22@reddit
/r/EatCheapAndHealthy is a good companion sub here.
New_Stats@reddit
r/eatcheapandvegan is also very good, considering the price of meat and dairy lately
Big_Fortune_4574@reddit
Quesadillas are easy. Big bags of shredded cheese and tortillas keep well in the freezer
FormerNeighborhood80@reddit
How do you freeze tortillas? Flour or corn? Thanks.
Big_Fortune_4574@reddit
I freeze the big bags of flour tortillas from Costco. Right in the bag, nothing special
New_Stats@reddit
Oh my goodness, so much
My current favorite because it's cheap, delicious and full of so much good stuff like fiber and protein and a bunch of vitamins and minerals
black bean and sweet potato tacos
black bean brownies are crazy good, definitely try it
black bean, corn and avocado salad
Old-Introduction-337@reddit
Thanks
stu54@reddit
Once you get good at cooking beans you can add almost anything you want to them and come up with something palatable. Just salt pepper and cumin can get the job done.
Add a bit of butter, an onion, celery, some ketchup salsa or tomato sauce, any kind of meat, potatoes, capsicum sp...
Really getting the salt content right is the key.
GridDown55@reddit
Solid website, thanks!
PhiloLibrarian@reddit
Black bean brownies!!!
MediocreAddendum3631@reddit
damn the black bean brownies look pretty good gonna bookmark this thank you bro
New_Stats@reddit
They are super good
For a lower effort black bean brownie get a sodium free can of black beans, dump the whole thing into a blender and blend 2 minutes past smooth to get out all the lumps and the just mix it with a brownie mix and bake as usual
I've found Ghirardelli brownie mix - ultimate chocolate with a chocolate sauce packet inside the box works best
Don't add any eggs or oil, it doesn't need it
StarsFaithful@reddit
Thank you for the recipes!
SquirrelyMcNutz@reddit
Black beans and rice is a traditional mix for them. Cook 'em in a broth of your choosing rather than water for more flavor. Maybe mix in some broccoli or a little bit of cheese sauce.
ShimmyShimmyYaw@reddit
Also as an app or for a party- Look up cowboy caviar. depends what ingredients you prefer but it can make great use of beans and cheap veggies- I’d be lying if I said I didn’t just eat that with chips for dinner a few times.
Vegetable-Board-5547@reddit
I'll soak them overnight with a little salt, and drain them off. Easier to cook.
Boil until tender. Either keep the water, or strain it.
From there, you can make vegetarian black bean chili. With the leftovers, you can make black bean nachos. Or blend them in a food processor for dip, or burritos, etc.
Keep them whole and eat with rice. Add to salads.
They are an excellent source of protein and fiber, but will also make you gassy.
New_Stats@reddit
Adding a bit of baking soda to the pot while they're cooking helps a lot. Rinsing then after soaking and after cooking also helps
And then there's always beno, it's a digestive enzyme that helps your gut digest the beans
Waytooboredforthis@reddit
Don't worry, that's the price from now on.
At least until the next global event that means a bump up in profits. So maybe a dozen days.
ZenorsMom@reddit
When I worked retail this is how they explained it to me. I have no idea how accurate it is but it's what they told me.
When they price their items they have to price for the replacement cost. If it will cost them more to replace it they will up the prices on what's in the store immediately.
Do they do the opposite and if the wholesale cost goes down, mark it down in the store immediately? LOL it never ever even came up because our costs never went down the entire time I worked there, but my guess would be no.
xXShunDugXx@reddit
I think this is going to be a huge part of the problem and will probably lead to more civil unrest like the arson. To me, it seems those that are enacting with plans did not plan on the people being this resistant. Now we definitely arent pushing back hard enough, but soon the ignorant will have no choice but to witness their choices or lack thereof
cyanescens_burn@reddit
If these prices don’t hit hard until after the midterms, and the dems sweep the midterms, they’ll blame it on the dems (without acknowledging that nearly 2 years of maga policies and actions lead to it).
Daxx22@reddit
Who knows what levers are left to pull to hide the fallout but that's still what, 5-6 months out? That's a lot of time for this train to go (further) off the rails.
JamesRawles@reddit
Increased food prices leads to civil unrest. The main generator of the Arab Spring.
Lower-Limit3695@reddit
The margins on beans have been pretty tight for farmers before the strait of hormuz closed, and since they need enough money to pay for the costs of next year's crop the wholesale price will need to be hiked up accordingly because of this crisis.
In all likelihood many small time farmers across the United States are going to be closing permanently and bought up by larger agri-corporatiibs.
What remains to be seen though is how much profit the middle men in the supply chain will be getting from all of this instability.
funke75@reddit
Depends, if other countries are willing to pay a higher price and there aren’t any governmental export restrictions the prices will be effected same as others.
goodguy847@reddit
Typical big box grocery stores have about 3 days worth of food on hand. Wholesale warehouses have another few days worth. Stores go dry extremely fast if they don’t restock.
homebrew_1@reddit
What site?
randylush@reddit
This is such an insignificantly small dataset that I’m not sure if you’re trolling or not.
If not, then no, your $9 beans does not mean global food prices have gone up 22.222222%
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
buys beans 😅 Can never have enough.
New_Stats@reddit
Lol you ain't joking
I have like 50 pounds of beans and lentils. Food insecurity is my biggest fear.
Daxx22@reddit
Similarly, stock up on dried spices/flavours. Rice/Beans/Lentils will keep you alive, but no need to make consuming it a chore as well!
cyanescens_burn@reddit
Get spices too.
I tried doing this thing, not sure I’d call it a challenge or what, but it was meant to get people in wealthy nations to understand what it’s like in the poorer half of the world. Basically you eat just like a cup of rice each day, nothing else. For a week.
The second week you can add some beans. Third week you can add a single spice.
I can tell you that when you are limited to rice, and later rice and beans, you really want some salt and spices.
WTFisThatSMell@reddit
https://imgur.com/a/8kAeYoO
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
🤣😂🤣
Leftoverofferings@reddit
I bought 8 big packs of toilet paper and stashed em. With supply chain problems on the horizon, I am not getting caught out again. You know when shelves start to empty, toilet paper will disappear.
majordashes@reddit
Yep. Everyone I buy a big package of tp at Costco, I remove one of the 4 packs and set it aside in my stash.
People who lived through the Great Depression had their quirks. I lived through Covid and have a toilet paper quirk.
New_Stats@reddit
Get a bidet. They're like 30 bucks and super easy to install in your existing toilet
You'll still need TP, just much less of it.
And worse comes to worse, you could technically use a washcloth to dry off with.
Girafferage@reddit
Ill be honest, maybe I have a weird butthole but I never saw a difference in TP amount used while using a bidet. Maybe I am completely inept at basic concepts though. Who is to say.
TeamRedundancyTeam@reddit
A bidet is one of the best things I've ever bought. Wish I'd done it ages ago. Feel nasty using public restrooms now, like a barbarian.
New_Stats@reddit
Yep, power washing your asshole is the height of sophistication.
throwawayt44c@reddit
Costco's jasmine rice went up $7 for the #25 bags.
Nachie@reddit
Wait, really? From what to what?
throwawayt44c@reddit
Wait it's $10 more now. It was $18 6 months ago and now its $28. It was $26 two days ago.
missbwith2boys@reddit
I want to say I paid $20 a bag a few weeks ago.
Girafferage@reddit
Its almost $30 now!?
Thats unsettling.
AnOnlineHandle@reddit
Jasmine rice has gone up >4x in Australia since covid began prior to all this, and I'm really not sure what people will do if it keeps going up. Fairly sure the answer from the sheltered billionaires who've never gone through hardship and are causing or enabling all this is "just inherit more money."
NoTerm3078@reddit
Before Covid it was $7 for the whole 25 pounds.
Hesitation-Marx@reddit
Oooooof. Damn.
tdelamay@reddit
Beans shouldn't need nitrogen fertilizer. I know plenty of farmer that use 0 fertilizer on legumes. They can symbiosis with agrobacterium to fix nitrogen from the air.
Gygax_the_Goat@reddit
I grow legumes to put nitrogen BACK in the soil.
Compost em. The problem where i am is water 🙏
Relative-Tune85@reddit
I'm more interessed why you buy 8 pounds of dried beans every week?
New_Stats@reddit
I don't. I figured prices would skyrocket so I stocked up on shelf stable food. I bought like 40 pounds of beans/lentils/grains all together.
I'm confused why you didn't assume that people on a prepping website do prepping stuff. Seems pretty obvious
No_Possible_7108@reddit
They didn't buy beans twice, just added the beans to the cart last week and waited til now to purchase them.
Altho the idea of somebody diving into a pool of beans like Scrooge McDuck is amazing. Maybe I should buy some beans
ImightbeaMooCow@reddit
Where do you order these things online?
New_Stats@reddit
My grocery store
You could order them on Amazon or Walmart I suppose. Mine were one pound per bag
missbwith2boys@reddit
They could mean their local grocery store for an order pick up. Or maybe Azure Standard.
Freshndecay@reddit
Yea people will say Its only 2 dollars!
Percentages Lives Matter
New_Stats@reddit
I can't afford a 22% increase in my cheap as shit food
I but the cheap as shit food because it's cheap and I can barely afford my current grocery bill as it is!
Ugh this is a disaster
MistressLyda@reddit
It is at least spring. I hope that as many as possible gets some stuff in the ground if they can at least, heck, just turning a lawn into a potato or carrot field can do a decent difference.
reedmanisback@reddit
All I got is a 5 gallon bucket with dollar store potting soil in a windowless apartment. I MIGHT be able to buy a grow light, but money's tight. Idk what to grow in that thing.
2quickdraw@reddit
I have a 5-shelf unit off Amazon for my garden starts. I have four flat LED grow lights zip tied to the bottoms of the shelves. I have 10x20 trays that are made for greens or starts, and I have eight pots in each, two flats per shelf. I can grow baby to young greens in those. If you are inside you could grow spinach, arugula, lettuce, onions, radishes, broccoli greens, chard, kale, mustard, and multiple herbs. If I wanted to put something similar together today off Amazon from scratch it would cost me about $400 plus seeds, which I get in bulk. But if you kept sowing you would have a fairly decent ongowing supplemental food system going in a small vertical footprint.
If all you can manage is that one bucket, you can buy just a grow light BULB. The best thing to grow in a 5 gallon bucket is probably fast growing greens. You'd have to figure out what kinds you like and then look at how long it takes them to grow to a baby green size. There are grow lights available on Amazon that have three stalks so you could do three or more buckets. You'd have to look at the lights' footprint. You often need to have lights closer to the soil so the UV can start the seeds.
SuitableSport8762@reddit
Maybe try sprouting instead
Texuk1@reddit
Just to say, if your lawn has ever been treated with lawn chemicals you will struggle to dig and grow in it. They spoil the land. Your best option would be to remove the top 6-12 inches of soil dispose and buy in fresh soil from arable land plus compost. It will take probably 2 years to rebuild the soil structure and hopefully the herbicide is reduced. I know because the sections of my perennial border that used to be lawn really struggle and things don’t want to persist. Taken years to improve the soil.
Party_Row8480@reddit
Talked my ex and his wife into stocking up on heirloom seeds when Trump was inaugurated, we just planted maybe an eight of the seeds, and will be getting more done this month, after the last frost predicted date. Next, we're probably going to have to learn canning.
8Deer-JaguarClaw@reddit
I'm setting up my first raised bed garden right now. I've been doing small-scale container gardening for the last 6 years but wanted to scale up. This one is 8x4x2 (feet), so should be able to produce a decent amount of vegetables.
missbwith2boys@reddit
I tuck black beans (bush) everywhere I can. They’re perfect for the edges of those taller raised beds; just let them flop over the side. It’s easy to see when the pods are dry.
8Deer-JaguarClaw@reddit
Thanks! I will definitely look into this more. I've never tried growing beans, so maybe now is a good chance.
missbwith2boys@reddit
Oops didn’t answer your question! I bought black coco from territorial seed company a number of years ago but I save some to plant the next year, so at this point I guess they’re my own! 😂
missbwith2boys@reddit
It won’t exactly get you pounds of beans from each bush, but if you have a good sized raised bed garden, you’ll get some meals from them.
Magickarpet76@reddit
Hey, if you don’t mind me asking, what are you growing in the 8x4 garden?
I saw a tip earlier for that exact size using concrete block corners with the board grooves already in them so it doesn’t need fasteners and can be easily disassembled. It seemed like a good beginner setup.
8Deer-JaguarClaw@reddit
Not 100% sure about everything, but I know I'll be doing a few different types of tomatoes, cucumbers, a few types of hot peppers, onions, and eggplant. Also doing some pollinator attracting flowers. Probably throw in some herbs in the leftover space.
Magickarpet76@reddit
Nice! Don't forget greens. I’ve had some luck with Swiss chard in pots. Be careful with cucumbers, in my experience the cucumber beetles can be brutal at least in my area. Marigolds are good pollinators that also repel pests.
I am thinking Okra, peppers, onions, squash chard, spices, and maybe bush beans in mine. Possibly a separate 8x4 just for sweet potatoes since they take over.
MistressLyda@reddit
Woo! And look into sprouting for the winter if you have not already. As long as you have clean water to rinse with, 1 lb of peas or mung beans can churn out a lot of fresh delicious greens. My general ratio tends to be around 1 lb dry peas turning into 5-10 lb pea shoots, depending on how long I let them grow. Low calorie food, but for the more chunky of us, that is a feature, not a glitch, and the enzyme and vitamin profile is really damn nice.
8Deer-JaguarClaw@reddit
Yeah, I'm looking forward to doing winter vegetables this year as well.
Big_Fortune_4574@reddit
I have like a whole production chain going lol. Lentils, mustard, broccoli, and mung beans on my kitchen counter.
loralailoralai@reddit
‘Global food emergency’ it’s autumn in half the world.
funke75@reddit
An acre of potatoes is enough to feed 3 people for a year calorie wise.
GreatPlainsFarmer@reddit
Farmers were disking up fields of potatoes last fall, because the cold storage facilities were already packed full.
And people are planting potatoes in their yards.
funke75@reddit
i'm considering it myself.
Hesitation-Marx@reddit
I just pulled my cold stratified seeds out yesterday and got them into soil, and the sun chokes have been planted in a (tightly contained) raised bed.
Onlyroad4adrifter@reddit
we are expanding our garden this year the grass is getting high in areas where the yard is. I use the grass as mulch to keep weeds out and reintroduce nitrogen in the soil. Neighbors hate me for it but I really dont care.
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
Just a reminder for those who love their pets: Set aside extra for them too.
Futureacct@reddit
I’ve got at least 7 months worth of canned cat food right now. How much do you think we need?
2quickdraw@reddit
I have a year for my dogs. If they'd eat more eggs I'd have more until the quail feed tuns out. Same with the rabbits, but they can transition to more garden greens and hay if I can still get it, otherwise they can have some of the grains and legumes I have stocked, but I might have to call them down..
IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE@reddit
No one knows exactly, it’s a shitshow.
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
I can't speak for anyone else but we are trying to get a year together but our dog is on an expensive prescription diet (of course 😮💨) so just doing the best we can. The dry food is a bit cheaper BUT it can go stale, so it's a balance. I'm getting a case of cans a payday and 6 lbs of dry every other payday until we just can't do it anymore.
He's such a little doll (coonhound) and came to us having had a really really rough start to life, and is highly allergic to poultry, which they put in EVERYTHING. Pet food companies often include chicken components like fat, by-products, or meal without explicitly listing "chicken" as a main ingredient, which has been a nightmare to navigate and is how we landed on prescription food (hydrolyzed, kills all the allergens). Sorry I realize that's more than you asked for lol 😆
No_Possible_7108@reddit
I feel so bad for your pup knowing how nuts my dogs go for chicken!
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
You know it's weird! He started not wanting to eat at all (before we realized what was happening)... HE knew it would give him a tummy ache/diarrhea etc. Started associating the smell of chicken with a bad time.
No_Possible_7108@reddit
Poor thing!
Please give him some extra scratches for me :)
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
AD_Grrrl@reddit
Oof.
throwawayt44c@reddit
Start mixing in rice with their food now to get them used to it.
ZixfromthaStix@reddit
This only works if you still have rice long term. If there’s no delivery, there’s no new rice, and it’s too complex to garden
I’d sooner consider raw meat diet, at least if you hunt you can feed yourself and pets off one kill.
TeamRedundancyTeam@reddit
If we are at the point people need to hunt to survive we are beyond fucked already. Almost no country has enough wildlife area to even begin to sustain that. Food animals would run out and we'd have massive ecological collapse as a result.
Texuk1@reddit
Prepping is ultimately about the short duration panic buying / supply problems. Any collapse scenario where countries have population wide reduction in calories will result in with collapse and anarchy or government control over food. In a rationing situation in a European country hoarding food will likely become illegal. None is actually prepping for that scenario because in SHTF it’s just anarchy.
GreatPlainsFarmer@reddit
At the moment, Arkansas farmers are sitting with huge bins full of rice that they can’t sell because there’s no market for it.
Preppers really should be getting together with them.
ZixfromthaStix@reddit
My group leader is friends with a neighbor that owns a 200 acre pine farm complete with fish pond, creek, meat animals and 35 types of crop in SMALLER fields.
I just hope when the order comes to move, I can make it there.
GreatPlainsFarmer@reddit
And that they let you in!
ZixfromthaStix@reddit
ROFL that would definitely suck. Driving 6 hours through panic and checkpoints, just to get turned away… 😅
I'm lucky enough to be part of the founding group for our site, so my "in" is pretty solid, but the anxiety is still real. My "calming mantra" lately has been building offline infrastructure. I'm currently wiping my tower PC rig to serve as a local server running Kiwix and a lightweight offline LLM (Ollama) so the group has a "local Google" if/when the grid goes.
To the point about being let in: I think the best security anyone can have is a marketable skill. The lead has prioritized recruiting people who can actually build (electricians, construction pros, and even culinary experts (my wife is our designated baker)). But at the end of the day my lead has also said he simply just needs people that can follow basic orders. Pretty low bar all things considered, one I have faith my peers can meet.
Pro tip: If you're looking for power solutions, look into smart washers with direct drive motors. They are surprisingly easy to hack into DIY micro hydroelectric turbines if you have a creek. Even a rough setup can pull enough juice for a fridge and lights.
Stay safe out there. The nervous energy is real 😩, and staying busy with these projects is the only thing keeping me sane right now.
throwawayt44c@reddit
I'm at the point where it's more beneficial for me to spend on food that I grow myself.
AD_Grrrl@reddit
Oh man. Well. I live in an apartment, so stocking up is going to get a little creative. :\
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
Search this sub for "apartment" and also YouTube for "apartment prepping" - good stuff there. Best of luck.
karl4319@reddit
I cashed out a large portion of my saving to expand my garden by an insane amount. Got several upgrades planned too to be able to grow things year round. Should be able to get a couple hundred pounds this year between squash, beans, canned tomatoes, potatoes, and berries.
Won't be enough to be completely independent, but it should go a long way in saving for now on.
QuantumWizard-314@reddit
Do you have any advice on growing a garden? I'm in UK. I want to grow stuff which is quick, easy, filling and nutritious
karl4319@reddit
Location is the first and most important. What growing zone are you? Are there any restrictions from local authorities? What is the orientation of the area you want to grow? How much space do you have? Are you able to grow in ground or restricted to containers and raised beds?
After figuring out what you can grow, think of what you want to grow. I don't particularly like cucumbers, so I don't grow them. I do like strawberries, so I grow those.
Herbs, leafy greens, tomatoes, peppers, onions, and garlic is fairly standard. I grow beans, squash, and potatoes as well as several fruiting bushes in addition. I don't have the room for corn or I would grow that as well.
Grow vertically by using vertical planters, vining things, tall plants, and hydroponic towers to maximize space.
For ease of storage and nutrition, you can't go wrong with beans. Specifically scarlett runner, rattlesnake, Cherokee trail of tears for pole beans and dragon breath for bush beans. Potatoes, garlic, onions, and winter squash also store very easy. Greens and berries are easy if you freeze them too.
MakePandasMateAgain@reddit
Impressed you can grow canned tomatoes 😮
missbwith2boys@reddit
😂 I’m sure they mean varieties of tomatoes suitable for canning.
GlitterLight@reddit
Similar here. I’ve got 4x the amount of seeds propagating that I would usually have this time of year.
No_Possible_7108@reddit
If things somehow don't get that bad that you need all of the food, I bet it would be pretty easy to recoup the money you put into your garden by selling your extras to people in your area too
BaseConnect1420@reddit
When will the people of the US remove this president to stop the world from turning into a catastrophe?
cyanescens_burn@reddit
What ideas do you have for them to do though? Keep on mind the country has an extensive ai mass surveillance network that has all internet and phone traffic running through chokepoints to screen for dissidents, programs to mess with would be dissidents (modern COINTELPRO), laws that allow blackbagging, and militarized police forces in every county.
Strakiz@reddit
Just pointing out, the longer you wait, the worse it gets. For all people on earth and the planet.
And there is a life without having to broadcast every whimsical thought on internet. A life without using phones, mails or even oldfashioned letters.
Known-Web8456@reddit
You think Trump is the only reason we keep endlessly staging coups in other countries? It has been going on since before he was born. He is just the latest fall guy after senile ice cream cone man. He is literally a "reality" tv personality.
cyanescens_burn@reddit
Nope. It’s the machinations of oligarchs going back to the Industrial Revolution. They got freaked out by the labor movements of the early 20th century and started colluding to keep the masses divided and get as many as they could to be against labor organizing, regulation on big business and finance, and taxing the very wealthy.
In the 60s or so they started with the culture war stuff, which was thought up as a way to get people to vote against pro-labor parties by tying them to progressive causes. Hell, they even got a number of causes that the churches used to support (stuff in the “help the poor/your neighbors” category) to be labeled as progressive and got the churches against it. Wildly successful for them. Phylis Schlafly was the architect of the culture war, worth reading up on her (or listen to the behind the bastards episodes on her)
Anyway, check out the docuseries The Family to see how they got big business/oligarchs aligned with religion (or more accurately oligarchs used religion to further their goals, under the guise of religion), and started influencing politics behind the scenes. It’s a real life case of shadowy figures nudging things along for over 100 years.
Known-Web8456@reddit
Preaching to the choir, Bruv. Politics are just a distraction from the true power players.
bokehtoast@reddit
Americans will never sacrifice whatever comforts they still afford. Far more wealthy people will have to be far worse off. They still think voting in this "democracy" will save us. People are ignoring what's happening to keep on with daily life as if it's not. It's really disconcerting as someone that isn't able to do that.
No_Possible_7108@reddit
It's that propaganda that we are the best country in the world and nothing really truly bad will happen to the country because Murica. Even within the last month or two I have seen people on Reddit arguing that "we may be having a bit of trouble but at least we are still better than your country because we are the greatest in the world".
It is so exhausting
YellowCabbageCollard@reddit
Bulk buy and store food but also grow food. You don't have to have raised beds or pots. It's actually more complicated to do than just digging up the dirt with a shovel. It costs more to buy cheap bagged dirt and requires more water and extra nutrients to keep them happy.
My elderly mother just went in our garden my two little girls and harvested butter lettuce and radishes to take home with her. And she's dropping hints incessantly about romano beans and how she can't find them anywhere and how much she loves them. And I reassured her that I bought two kinds of romano bean seeds and plant to plant them.
It makes me feel good and truly secure to be able to grow food for my family like this. The more any of us grow the more secure we all are. Gardening does not have to be expensive. People didn't use to buy $5 plants and bags of fill dirt. Sure, some of those things can be nice but it's truly not necessary most of the time.
Gold_Bat_114@reddit
Look up keyhole gardens for inexpensive ways to set up the garden and add more soil nutrients for essentially free.
No_Branch_5083@reddit
Gardening can be an almost absurdly efficient hobby and means of producing food. Save seeds from the plants you grow, now you've got infinite seeds. Grow runners from strawberries, now one strawberry is dozens. Compost your own food waste and use that to enrich the soil, or grow green manure which is pretty cheap. Or, if you're lucky, compost horse or chicken manure and bedding into black gold.
I have turned my garden into a perennial food forest filled with fruit and edible herbs, and I have an allotment where I'm learning how to grow staple crops.
No_Direction6688@reddit
Even in a global food emergency we know these Titans of Industry will never starve, Donald Trump, Bi-Bi Netanyahu, Vladimir Putin, Peter Thiel, and Elon Musk.
FlatOutUseless@reddit
I think the goal is to cause famines in less white counties. I wish I was exaggerating.
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
I think, it's a broader category. "Them against Us," collectively as a whole. Trump's grinchy economic advisor Kevin Hassett calls us "human capital stock." We are cattle and they see themselves as cattlemen.
sovietarmyfan@reddit
I hate the fact that some supermarkets will use this as an excuse to raise prices of products even if the supply of such products is not impacted.
nightofthebunny@reddit
For the last three years I’ve been agonizing over the weight I gained and how despite every diet plan tried, nothing would budge it. Now I’m thinking God had a plan for me.
Daxx22@reddit
Drumph would absolutely try to claim this as "solving" the obesity crisis.
Big_Fortune_4574@reddit
No diets for me, I’ve taken up the bear strategy. It’ll just be famine instead of winter
Gotherapizeyoself@reddit
😂😂😂 same!!!
WolfMuted1171@reddit
I chose the worst fucking time to bulk
JamesRawles@reddit
Mac?
mediocre_remnants@reddit
Bulking and cutting is horrible for your health so maybe it's for the best!
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
Now is better than tomorrow. We all have to start where we are.
2BlueZebras@reddit
Bulk in fall/winter, cut in spring/summer.
lover_of_pistachios@reddit
On a side note, it will be great for people to start their cuts for summer
Thoth-long-bill@reddit
Yep.
davesr25@reddit
indeed.
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
Corn meal is really cheap still. Pan brand 2 pounds under $3. Purchase limit on the yellow in the one I ordered so I will just order it as often as possible. (The article says corn is fixing to get spendier.)
51 Creative Ways To Use That Bag Of Cornmeal In Your Cupboard
cyanescens_burn@reddit
I got into masa harina during the early pandemic. I’d seen the stuff coming out of China in like December and January and started stocking up food (we had no idea how bad it might get, and those images being snuck through the great firewall were very concerning).
Get a nice cast iron tortilla press. Once you get your recipe down you can easily make some awesome tortillas from scratch.
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
PS Do you use the masa harina in any other ways?
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
Yes!!! Some homemade tortillas make a great vehicle for the kinds of foods we keep for emergencies (lentils, beans, rice, etc). Don't forget some hot sauce. 😉
StarsFaithful@reddit
Thank you for that link!
Loud_Flatworm_4146@reddit
We need a flare for “We’re not gonna make, are we? People, I mean.”
That line and Arnold’s line after it come to my mind every now and then. And I haven’t seen T2 for many years.
cyanescens_burn@reddit
Some will. Like folks living agrarian lives in the Amazon or remote islands in the pacific.
Some models I’ve seen for MAD scenarios show the southern hemisphere doing better as far as radioactive fall out.
Oh, and the billionaires in the bunkers in New Zealand (or at least their security staff will, after they get sick of the spoiled brat ordering them around when money isn’t real anymore).
litreofstarlight@reddit
'It's in your nature to destroy yourselves.' For anyone not familiar with the quote.
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
hermitsociety@reddit
I can’t see the article (paywall) - can anyone share it?
MamaMayhem74@reddit
The global energy crisis caused by the closure of the Strait of Hormuz is only the beginning of the economic cost of the war with Iran.
I study how institutions affect businesses and supply chains, and I expect food prices to rise next, with high prices lasting even after whatever point hostilities end.
Along with about 20% of the world’s crude oil trade and a similar share of the world’s liquefied natural gas shipments, shipping traffic through the strait also carries roughly a third of internationally traded fertilizer, which is key to bountiful crops around the world.
Modern agriculture depends on precise timing of delivering nutrients to plants. When fertilizer arrives late or becomes too expensive to buy in sufficient quantities, farmers are left to either reduce the amount they use, plant fewer crops or switch to crops that need less fertilizer. Each option reduces overall productivity, cutting supplies of basic foods, feed for livestock and key ingredients used in a wide range of food products.
Ultimately, with corn prices rising, summer barbecues may taste a bit different or cost more. Corn on the cob may not be cheap, nor will corn-fed beef. In addition, many store-bought condiments, soft drinks and other food products are made with high-fructose corn syrup and will also cost more.
Farmers have hard decisions to make about what crops to plant and how much of each. RJ Sangosti/MediaNews Group/The Denver Post via Getty Images
3 main crops, 3 nutrients needed
Three staple crops – corn, wheat and rice – supply more than half of the world’s dietary calories.
To maximize production, those crops need three main nutrients: nitrogen, phosphate and potassium. Nitrogen helps plants grow. Phosphorus helps transport energy within plant cells and is critical for early root growth and the formation of seeds and fruit. Potassium helps plants conserve water and boosts protein content.
The closure of the Strait of Hormuz has reduced the supply and increased the cost of all three.
Natural gas, which determines 70% to 90% of the cost of producing nitrogen fertilizer, has seen a 20% drop in production due to the war and price increases up to 70%. To preserve its own supplies, Russia has suspended exports of ammonium nitrate, another nitrogen source for fertilizer.
In a similar effort, China, the world’s largest phosphate producer, has blocked phosphate exports, removing 25% of the global supply.
Potash, the potassium-rich component of fertilizers, has also been in short supply in recent years, in part because of economic sanctions on Belarus and Russia, which are major potash producers.
As a consequence, fertilizer prices have risen globally. In the U.S., some fertilizers rose more than 40% in just one month after the war’s start in late February 2026. https://www.youtube.com/embed/PkNWSogQzAM?wmode=transparent&start=0 An American farmer talks about the cost of fertilizer amid the war in Iran.
Affecting farmers first
Cereal plants absorb the vast majority of their nitrogen needs during their early growth. Applying fertilizer later in the growth cycle is less effective.
Reducing nitrogen application by 10% to 15%, or delaying application by two to four weeks, can reduce corn yields by 10% to 25%.
Producing less corn and wheat reduces not only food available for humans but also food for livestock. Increased fertilizer costs and reduced grain supplies increase the price of raising livestock, making meat and animal products more expensive.
When feed costs become unsustainable, farmers may be forced to kill or sell off the breeding cows and sows that represent the future of the food supply. In the U.S., a combination of persistent drought and high costs in 2022 forced producers to kill 13.3% of the national beef cow herd, the highest proportion ever. As a result, the U.S. beef cattle inventory shrank to its lowest level since 1962, a problem that restricts beef supplies for years.
Ultimately, the costs are passed to consumers. In 2012, when a historic Midwest drought slashed corn yields by 13%, it triggered a surge in feed prices, and U.S. poultry prices rose 20%.
The cost of feeding chickens contributes to the cost of their meat. Edwin Remsberg/VWPics/Universal Images Group via Getty Images
cont'd below
MamaMayhem74@reddit
More money can’t fix this problem
In mid-March 2026, the U.S. fertilizer supply was around 75% of normal levels. That’s right at the beginning of the time when Corn Belt farmers typically prepare their soil for planting, including the first applications of fertilizer. Subsequent fertilizer applications typically come from mid-April to early May and between late May and mid-June.
Farmers who fear not being able to optimize their corn yields may decide to plant less corn or switch crops and plant soybeans, which need less fertilizer. Either would reduce the corn supply.
Government loan guarantees and aid packages may help farmers cover higher costs, but they cannot address timing if enough fertilizer simply isn’t available when it is needed.
Hitting home
American consumers aren’t facing the gas and food shortages or power outages other countries are seeing from the war, but they will be hit in the pocketbook. U.S. prices for gas and jet fuel are already climbing. The effects on the food supply take longer to appear, but they are coming.
Even when crops are bountiful in the U.S., consumers are not immune to global economic forces. A smaller 2026 crop, with rising demand for livestock feed in some of the most populous countries, including China and India, will put pressure on global corn prices, affecting everyone regardless of their nationality.
In March 2026, the U.S. Department of Agriculture used data from before the Iran war to project a 3.1% average increase for all food prices.
The question for consumers is how much of the rise in corn prices will be passed to the consumer, and how fast.
USDA research shows that the speed and extent of changes in food prices vary widely by food category and the level of processing involved in making the food. Other factors also play a role, such as inventory levels, perishability and market competition. When farm prices change, wholesale prices usually adjust within the first month, but retail prices often take longer – sometimes two to four months.
Corn tortilla prices rise relatively quickly when corn prices increase. Christina House/Los Angeles Times via Getty Images
Corn tortillas and other relatively lightly processed corn foods are more likely to show price responses within a few months after corn prices increase. Adjustments to cereals or poultry prices will take a little longer. Changes in the cost of livestock products such as beef will take longer, because there are more steps between the purchase of feed corn and the sale of the meat to consumers.
Other indirect costs, related to the cost of fuel and packaging, tend to hit later. Producers often absorb the price increases in the short term, but some increases are already in the works. For instance, transport companies are adding fuel surcharges on freight shipments.
Food price hikes hit low-income households harder than high-income households, because people with lower incomes spend larger shares of their money on food and housing. For these households, even relatively affordable proteins, such as chicken, may become harder to purchase regularly.
Farm workers in Sudan begin to harvest sorghum. Tariq Ishaq Musa/Xinhua via Getty Images
A global food emergency
The cost and availability of fertilizer will affect the whole world. More than 300 million people worldwide already do not have enough food. The U.N. World Food Program predicts an additional 45 million could join them by the end of 2026 if the conflict in the Middle East continues into the middle of the year.
Crop yields in India and Brazil in 2026 are expected to be lower than normal. East African farmers struggled to afford fertilizer even before the crisis and will likely have to make do with even less.
These problems may seem removed for most Americans, but food prices are global in nature, and people in the U.S. will soon face these additional costs of the war.
Aya S. Chacar, Professor of International Business, Florida International University
This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article.
GreatPlainsFarmer@reddit
US farmers are holding a record amount of corn in storage, according to the quarterly stocks report at the end of March.
Food grade corn contracts for 2026 had pretty low premiums compared to the last few years. I wouldn’t worry about a shortage of corn tortillas anytime soon.
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
Just a reminder for any families who have a gluten free member: Grab some alternative flours NOW and keep in fridge or freezer as long as possible. Many, if not most, gluten-free flours are derived from crops that are not grown in large quantities in every country, or they are processed in international facilities. Many specialized flours and starches are imported into the US.
No_Possible_7108@reddit
Regarding the missing 'global' flare, maybe it should be added given the state of gestures wildly
frenchburner@reddit
There’s an idea for “new flair”.
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
🤣😂🤣💯
Motor-Ad8989@reddit
We could stand to lose some calories. Not the little ones, of course. But even some of them.
No_Possible_7108@reddit
And how about the millions upon millions that are just barely surviving already?
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
Supplement article [A global food emergency: Why the closed Strait of Hormuz puts half the world's calories at risk
https://ground.news/article/a-global-food-emergency-why-the-closed-strait-of-hormuz-puts-half-the-worlds-calories-at-risk?utm_source=mobile-app&utm_medium=newsroom-share](https://ground.news/article/a-global-food-emergency-why-the-closed-strait-of-hormuz-puts-half-the-worlds-calories-at-risk?utm_source=mobile-app&utm_medium=newsroom-share)
CanadianBushCamper@reddit
Let us buy fert from Russia again
xXShunDugXx@reddit
I wouldn't be suprised if thats already being planned out
uselessandexpensive@reddit
Wouldn't be surprised if that was the plan from the beginning.
Special_Library_766@reddit (OP)
CarPhoneRonnie@reddit
be dropping lbs faster than Wegovy bitches
Conscious-War5920@reddit
Lol this cracked me up. 😅😆
Broad-Lobster7470@reddit
We are so fucked