Trip hop, acid jazz, big beat etc ... any love left for those 90's genres among older Brits ?

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Bellimars@reddit

Kruder and Dorfmeister's The K & D Sessions was re-released last year with an extra CD of material. I've never been so quick to fork over my money. One of the best albums out there.

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Luc1d_Dr3amer@reddit

Trip hop and Acid jazz yes, Big Beat not so much. That was very much of its time

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Clive_Trotter75@reddit

The Mo Wax Headz compilations are incredible, especially the first one. Many a hazy night spent listening to that.

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djcustardbear2@reddit

There are some great tunes that would have been classified as this in record shops back in the day.

for example - where would we file anything by Depth Charge now?

Big beat is probably the most derided genre but now most of those tunes would be reclassified as breaks or electro or something. I don't know, I'm old!!

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duanerenaud@reddit (OP)

Depth Charge I believe was an unsung innovator with breakbeats. Huge influence on the rave scene that you had over there in England.

But yeah, I'm old now also. And irrelevant...

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Japhet_Corncrake@reddit

I still enjoy stuff like Galliano, who I think were on Talkin' Loud rather than Acid Jazz, but it was a similar vibe.

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ValidGarry@reddit

I thought I was the only person left alive who even knew the Totally Wired compilations existed!

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Japhet_Corncrake@reddit

I've still got a few of them on LP. 10 is my favourite, I think.

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duanerenaud@reddit (OP)

Yes, I liked the same "trip hop" labels. Also Dorado, Fila Brazilia etc and the non UK downtempo stuff like Kruder & Dorfmeister, Kid Loco, DJ Cam...

I remember Nu skool breaks... it still feel old school by now. I believe it was faster, more electronic in nature, and more club oriented than big beat.

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duanerenaud@reddit (OP)

Yes, Gilles' Peterson label. Same vibe. They reformed btw.

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Silver-Advance5276@reddit

Still listen to Massive Attack a lot, Portishead occasionally.

Still listen to In pursuit of 13th Note by Galliano, they were one of the first bands I saw as a kid of about 15 in 1990 or so.

Heard Mother Earth on radio other day too.

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there is a band of (American) 11 year olds called the Graystones on YouTube doing a live cover of Glory Box.. (which is an odd song for an 11 year old girl to be singing.. I'm guessing they don't understand the lyrics)

The Graystones have since split into two rival bands, the other being The Turnarounds. Absolutely incredibly talented kids.

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Upper-Flatworm8784@reddit

I still listen to Massive Attack and Portishead quite a lot.

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alexmate84@reddit

I would add James Lavelle and David Holmes as well albeit a few years later. And although Australian, The Avalanches

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Weary-Carob3896@reddit

Mooircheeba too.

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Upper-Flatworm8784@reddit

Yes. I have a real soft spot for their Diggin a Watery Grave. Sometimes I play that track on repeat.

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Most_Life_1612@reddit

That great Chris Morris ambient comedy programme Blue Jam wouldn't have been the same without a bit of trip hop underneath and between the darker sketches.

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TooNeuroToBeABot@reddit

Aim, Skalple ,Midfield General, Mr Scruff, Air, RJD2, everyone’s mentioned them but Dummy is my favourite album and on Repeat.

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ConfidenceValuable57@reddit

Acid Jazz was pretty good, some great live bands, James Taylor Quartet, Courdaroy, Jamiroquai. Good club nights. Do i miss it it. Not really, but it stands up when i hear it.

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Southernbeekeeper@reddit

Yeah, I don't really know the names of genre in that sense so had to check out r/triphop but DJ Shadow's Endtroducing is one of my favourite albums. Portishead and massive attack are staples at home. I wouldn't have had a clue chemical brothers were classed as big beat, but again probably listen to them once a month.

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duanerenaud@reddit (OP)

Endtroducing is a masterpiece as is Dummy. Loved the MoWax label and the older Ninja Tune releases ... but alas some people were just taking the mick when I mentioned that I like trip hop at the time .... :(

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itsthesplund@reddit

It's just a shame so much Mo Wax isn't on streaming due to endless rights issues

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Southernbeekeeper@reddit

His last few albums have been great. He released a single with RTJ which was like the soundtrack to my summer about 10 years ago.

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duanerenaud@reddit (OP)

I've tried, but Shadow past Private Press isn't really for me.

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Shoreditchstrangular@reddit

63 year old, still listen and buy a lot of trip hop

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feathersmcgraw24601@reddit

I follow the big beat manifesto. Big beats are the best, get high all the time.

Seriously though I think big beat gets derided because it's a terrible name and not a particularly well defined genre. If you want fun, dancy, not too serious music you can't go far wrong with Fat Boy Slim

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Outrageous-Arm1945@reddit

I lived in Brighton at that time, and that's almost the problem, it was almost more of a scene than a genre, id go to BBB if there was a hiphop DJ on the bill I liked, rather than to go to a Big Beat night.

It was almost a product of Brightons Student/Gay/Crusty gangs all getting mixed together. Wasn't the biggest fan at the time, was very much a DNB/Hiphop nerd at the time, but with an older, wiser head, look back on it fondly.

Hindsight is 20/20, but DJ Krash Slaughta at the old Concorde is far more memorable than the dozens of Dark Blacks I went to at the Zap.

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duanerenaud@reddit (OP)

I heard it was derided as "lager music". I agree, it's funky, bouncy, unserious music. It's not very sophisticated, much less than trip hop say, but still enjoyable in the right cinrcumstance.

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feathersmcgraw24601@reddit

Yeah agreed. Maybe it is lager music, but lager is great

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General-Minimum-1047@reddit

Portishead will never be surpassed, nothing anywhere near as interesting as trip hop around now either

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lucylucylane@reddit

Love trip hop never seems to age

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jasonbirder@reddit

I mean who doesn't love Big Beat & Trip Hop...

Love me some Massive Attack & Portishead (would we count Morcheeba as Trip Hop?)

And is there anyone that lived through the late 80's/'90s that didn't love Prodigy/Chemical Brothers etc?

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Fun-Yam2210@reddit

My teenage daughter likes Portishead - we listen together now ☺️

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CautiousAd5515@reddit

Still dabble with some trip hop.

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snapper1971@reddit

I listened to loads of acid-jazz and Bristol downtempo stuff for years. I'll come back to it, currently listening to a lot Japanese Hard Rock and metal.

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aspannerdarkly@reddit

I certainly do, but as a mere 41 year old I can’t speak for older Brits

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duanerenaud@reddit (OP)

I'm also 41 year "young" as it is. Which means I'm not anymore.

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slemsbury@reddit

Well those genres definitely sound of their time, but music has no expiry date. If something slapped when it came out, it still slaps now.

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Geezer-McGeezer@reddit

Still love my Acid Jazz ! Saw a lot of bands in the 90's. JTQ at the Pink Toothbrush being amongst the best.

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StillJustJones@reddit

I saw JTQ at the ‘brush! I think I saw them there twice.

I also used to go to the Acid Jazz nights at the Colchester arts centre.

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HippCelt@reddit

I'm more of a metal head but I've enjoyed Trip hop for those mellower moments and The Prodigy are epic.

What the chuff are the so called music-oriented Brits listening to be chatting such shit I wonder...mmm I might dig out the Ruby cd.

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duanerenaud@reddit (OP)

Apparently the term "trip hop" was controversial in your country, and when the 00's kicked in, many seemed to consider it as "passé" and undesirable. That's the experience I got from talking with a few people at least (I was gutted as in lvoe with trip hop at the time).

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StillJustJones@reddit

The people you spoke with were music snobs.

Brit pop, trip hop, amyl house and such were all genres that encapsulated a scene in a moment and were all quite ‘zeitgeisty’… the music press loved a bit of bandwagon jumping and often had a polarising take on scenes as they came in and out of fashion.

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Hot-Satisfaction19@reddit

yep, it was when it started to become more mainstream and poppy that the term came about so was looked down on a bit. trip hop often referred to the ones hanging on to the bandwagon rather than the pioneers. now it just refers to all of it. :)

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StillJustJones@reddit

Yes. I still listen to big beat, acid jazz, nu-funk, trip-hop, liquid D’n’B, jungle and such ‘old people’ music.

There’s DJ’s still plays these kind of tunes on BBC 6 music. Mary-Anne Hobbs, Gilles Peterson, Nemone and Craig Charles spring to mind.

I like labels like Ninja Tunes, Freestyle records, Jalepeno Records, Mo’ Wax, Disco Cakes, Bombstrikes and Tru Thoughts.

I still listen to the old stuff…. But there’s also plenty of fantastic new music being released on these labels.

Just this morning I was listening to some old Mr Scruff followed by a recent (and very fun) Tru Thoughts compilation.

I would say the people you spoke to who felt this music was ‘cringe’ were of a different generation and likely had tastes that led them on another path…. (possibly guitar music or if it was 20 years ago they were likely into nu-folk and loved that ‘stomp, clap, hey’ shite that spawned Mumford and sons, Laura Marling and what have you).

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zen_bastrd@reddit

Stick on radio 6 music all played regularly

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Intelligent-Mud-1039@reddit

My 22 year old daughter's first vinyl album is Dummy by Portishead. We have huge overlap in musical taste. Lots of Bristol stuff playing when she's home...

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ValidGarry@reddit

Good dad skills there.

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terryjuicelawson@reddit

Trip hop I thought was well regarded, but it was short lived with only a few bands as part of it (Massive Attack, Tricky and Portishead mainly) so maybe it was cringe if that style was trying to be copied a decade later. Big Beat I liked but sort of ran out of ideas I think, Fatboy Slim moved away from that sort of sound after his first couple of albums. It mostly described a sound that came from all over rather than any coherent movement (outside a couple of club nights I think?).

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ValidGarry@reddit

6Music just had a day of 1991 music to celebrate Massive Attack releasing Blue Lines 35 years ago. It was a delight.

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Comprehensive_Cow_13@reddit

That was a great day, but being reminded it was 35 years ago was less great!

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Hot-Satisfaction19@reddit

it was the title trip hop that was cringey. now it has become accepted but at the time was derivative as more poppy acts jumped on the bandwagon. tricky, massive attack and portishead are timeless.

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spinners_888@reddit

Yes I still do regularly, particularly Mo Wax and DJ Shadow. I love to listen to anything with breakbeats.

It was derided in the 2000s because the name was made up by a journalist and mostly considered 90s music even thought it was often used for BGM in shows like Top Gear and Ninja Tune didn't change direction till the late 2000s. The title was cringe at the time but honestly there's no better way of describing downtempo music with and influenced by (lazy) hip hop beats.

I mostly listen to NTS these days and there's a tag for trip hop (or search in genre). Only cool people listen to NTS! 😎

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Salt_Bison7839@reddit

I still listen to Anti-Theft Device by Mix Master Mike now again.

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Over-Bug1501@reddit

There was quite a crossover at the same time with ambient techno, such as the orb. I think weed culture played a big part along with the afterparties post rave.

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duanerenaud@reddit (OP)

I remember The Orb, Future Sound of London, Irresistible Force and so on. Although I wasn't old enough at the time of the ambient stuff to have "experienced" it, nor was in the right place.

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Over-Bug1501@reddit

Little fluffy clouds is still one of the most evocative tunes for me!

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BocaSeniorsWsM@reddit

Oh bloody hell yes.

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Own-Pen3465@reddit

Absolutely that music still holds up

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VR_SamUK@reddit

Some of the shite people listen to doesn’t warrant them an opinion but at the same time life’s too short. Mo Wax. DJ Shadow. DJ Food. Coldcut. Kruder & Dorfmeister. Tricky. Portishead. Lo-fidelity Allstars. Leftfield. Chemical Brothers. Cut la Roc. Depthcharge. The Wiseguys. Propellerheads. All classics.

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duanerenaud@reddit (OP)

You nailed it. All of those were my musical upbringing in my late teens and early 20s (you can add Warp and LTJ Bukem's brand of atmospheric drum n bass tp that), probably 5 to 10 years too late.

It was also the first time that I connected with the wider British culture, and for this French lad at the time, that meant a lot. I still believe the Brits were the most muscially relevant nation at the time.

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MountainDapper167@reddit

Loved all of those genres except Big Beat, which was fine but there was better dance music around at the time.

I was very much into Mother Earth, Galiano, Massive Attack, Portishead, Red Snapper, Nightmares on Wax, Brand New Heavies. Not all necessarily Acid Jazz or trip-hop, but all that sort of vibe. I'd put the first Jamiriquai album in the same sort of area.

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duanerenaud@reddit (OP)

I'd describe all the bands you've cited as either trip hop (or downtempo) or acid jazz, yes.