Prime Minister Viktor Orban concedes defeat in Hungary election
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imunfair@reddit
It'll be interesting to see if the EU speed-runs its own destruction without his moderating touch, or if another leader will step up to play "the heel" and stop them from constantly screwing their own citizens for the sake of foreign influences.
Inprobamur@reddit
By him you mean Putin, right? From the leaked calls and documents to Lavrov it was pretty much confirmed that Orban's EU policy was dictated from Kremlin.
imunfair@reddit
No, I mean Orban refusing to gut the EU's energy security in a virtue-signalling contest like the other moronic EU leaders wanted to do.
They managed to shoot themselves in one foot and were mad Orban wouldn't let them do the other one too. I can't imagine how catastrophic it would have been if they'd been able to ram it through, the cost was already absurdly high with the items they did manage to sanction.
Inprobamur@reddit
You do realize that the cost to Russia would be similarly great, right? Gazprom is the main financer of the Russian state.
imunfair@reddit
Yeah, sanctions are mutually assured financial destruction, that's why it's the most idiotic move to try to use them against a massive commodity and energy supplier - they're only really effective against small nations that you can bully with your much larger economy.
Unfortunately politicians are unable to admit they're wrong, so after Biden's regime change didn't work they refused to pull the sanctions like they should have. And to this day the EU is still trying to pass more sanctions packages - because doing the same thing that hasn't worked the first 20+ times is always the obvious choice for a good strategic move.
Inprobamur@reddit
European economy seems to do just fine even with the current sanctions. I don't see why any sanctions should ever be lifted before the war ends.
imunfair@reddit
Sure if you don't look too closely at the industries it actually impacts, or the debt the states had to take on to subsidize it. Also initiating mutually assured financial destruction for a war that isn't your own is it's own special enhanced class of short-bus thinking. I have zero respect for any of the EU leaders, they all went along with it which means they either have no backbone or no foresight, and shouldn't be the leader of anything.
Inprobamur@reddit
It's very much our war. This war has caused all of the units that were stationed on the Estonian border and in Leningrad oblast and Kaliningrad to be wiped out. Russian influence operations in large parts of Europe have collapsed. Gazprom schemes that controlled entire nations through large-scale corruption schemes are now gone. The strategic benefits so far have been great a 10 years of economic pain is nothing compared to what have already been gained.
imunfair@reddit
That's a very Baltic assessment, not surprised.
Inprobamur@reddit
Why thank you.
imunfair@reddit
It wasn't a compliment, it was a comment on how blinded you guys are by your hate of Russia that you'll sacrifice anything to hurt them.
The only coherent thing you said was the defense spending, but it's still anemic and does not in any way reflect the narrative that Russia is a threat to the EU - even after four years of supposedly existential war you guys are basically sitting there with your thumb up your ass.
Dear-Indication-6673@reddit
Whoa, so narrowminded of Eastern Europeans to hate Russia who, check notes, attacked them for 300 years, signed a pact to partition them with Naxlzi Germany and send millions in Siberian gulags, and continued to provoke, threaten and attack us after USSR collapsr. Russophobia, right? How nice of the educated American to westplain to us peasants.
imunfair@reddit
Don't let me get in the way of your little Hatfields vs Mccoys feud where you're the mouse and the other side is the cat. Always a smart idea to agitate against a neighbor that could squish you without a second thought rather than making peace with them.
Dear-Indication-6673@reddit
Yes, yes, make peace and accept to be like Belarus. Glorious alcohol driven domestic violence Rusky Mir.
Inprobamur@reddit
From here on the ground it really does not feel like that, I have had two reservist exercises in the last 2 years under the new defense league home defense regions and the preparedness and seriousness they are taking these exercises has been massively different from during my service before the war. Even the amount of concrete being poured for prepared positions is rather impressive. Can't say much here, but Russians will be in a world of hurt if they ever cross the EU border. Our autonomous weapons and drones are now being deployed for battle testing to the Ukraine in the hundreds.
Findanniin@reddit
I'm sorry, let me get this straight...
You're... a fan of Orban for blocking aid to Ukraine at the European level... while simultaneously giving the above poster shit for not doing more to help Ukraine?
Buddy, we're not the US. The EU isn't 'your federal government'. This is very much our war. The strategic shift away from the US is happening, but it's happening slowly. There's valid criticism to be directed at the EU for this. By its very nature, it's a slow machine comprised of many parts occasionally moving in opposite directions - but it is moving.
Time will tell how Orban's defeat will play out for the machinery, but in what seems like a super dark timeline (look no further than your white house), permit us some hope that things are looking up for the unity of the continent.
aneq@reddit
This guy is obviously a Russian with american flair. Don’t bother
imunfair@reddit
I'm not sure how you misread whatever comment you're referring to so completely.
VladimiroPudding@reddit
I don't know if you followed the news in the last two weeks, but Orban was the embodiment of foreign influence little bitch. He even called his foreign master "the big lion" lmao.
imunfair@reddit
Couldn't care less, doesn't make his actions any less smart both domestically and for the EU at large.
aneq@reddit
Then stop talking shit about things you don’t care about and are extremely uneducated about. Thanks.
The thing you don’t understand is people are happy about Orban being gone primarily because he’s a confirmed traitor that was working for Russia. This is treason and it trumps everything else:
imunfair@reddit
Your moral crusade has no place in geopolitics, kindly take it to one of the pro-Ukrainian subreddits and stop trying to burden people talking about facts with your emotional baggage.
aneq@reddit
It’s not a moral crusade.
The facts are Russia is openly hostile, threatens us with aggression, flies in illegal immigrants and unleashes them on our borders (well not anymore because we built a wall and let them die on the border).
Orban reports to Putin and is subordinate to him. He’s literally a foreign agent who is on record with saying that he wants to be „the little mouse to the Russian lion”.
People in government being agents of an openly hostile foreign power are the definition of treason.
imunfair@reddit
You can stop with the silly "the EU is next" Ukrainian talking points, it isn't fooling anyone when the EU's actions don't back up the supposed threat. And anyone who knows Putin knew at the start it was only meant to extract funds from the EU.
Socraman@reddit
Shut up troll, go back to your cave you disgusting yankee.
-The_Guy_@reddit
MAGA will be the next to fall.
imunfair@reddit
I don't see how that has anything to do with what I said, but yes, likely the Republicans will lose hard in the midterms given Trump's incompetent and chaotic behavior.
-The_Guy_@reddit
Or an and Trump are very deeply connected. It’s an obvious correlation.
Britstuckinamerica@reddit
Luckily, Cambodia enjoyed Pol Pot's moderating touch for years
sakezaf123@reddit
That's hilarious, Orban was weakening the EU, and bending over for any and all foreign influence willing to pay him. In the last decade he made hungary take loans from russia, china, israel, uae, and pocketed all of it to build castles for him and his oligarchs, and make his children billionaires.
rodgee@reddit
In my eyes that makes him a better man than I thought he was! Let's see what strings he'll pull behind the scenes before we get too excited at his departure.
Mal_Dun@reddit
The guy is 62 years old now. Maybe he just will go into a nice retirement with loads of money in a big villa ... I also could see that a lot of his party members asked him nicely to leave after that fiasco.
So I don't know if he not just genuinely just gave up.
ZohomEtirho@reddit
I feel like we got this victory too easily.
I don't know what they might be planning, but these fuckers still have a whole month to fuck things up.
This is the worst possible outcome for Orbán because his opponent will now have super-majority, which enabled Orbán to be a literal dictator for almost a decade. I just don't see how he would let power like this out of his grasp this easily.
VladimiroPudding@reddit
Not to be the naysayer here, but my best guess is that Fidesz came to terms with the incoming landslide and cooked some deal with Tisza. Not very in the realm of conspiracy theory, given that Magyar was with Fidesz just 2 years ago. I wouldn't expect an outrageous deal either, something like "bro, let us move our assets outside of Hungary in peace during these 30 days and don't investigate us that hard".
SuspecM@reddit
At this point, fidesz is busy shredding everything they can to make sure the next administration has as little evidence as possible to conduct fair trials.
Don't get fooled, the only reason a false flag operation didn't happen was because most of them were found out ahead of time (big props to the serbian authorities for immediately coming out and saying that the bombs they found had nothing to do with Ukraine by the way) and I'm sure that European secret service had a lot of hands in the rumored operation that was supposed to happen in Budapest.
Don't get me wrong, it was primarily a W by the Hungarian people but there was a very hard war going on behind the scenes to give us the opportunity to be able to get that W across the finish line.
Herteity@reddit
He spread so much propaganda he started to believe his own words and got disonnected from reality. (Especially when he is only surrounded by yes-man) He also tried to use campaign strategies that would've only been effective 50 years ago in a soviet country.
In the end he got so far disconnected from the current reality that he alienated even some of his own voters.
I could detail it further but let me tell you, he didn't just "let the piwer out of his grasp", some of his moves actively sabotaged himself especially in the last month of his campaign.
Pyrhan@reddit
Still, I'm surprised he didn't go out screaming that the election was rigged, that he refused to recognize the legitimacy of the results, etc.
Like Trump and Bolsonaro both did, at one point...
Historical_Mad1917@reddit
If the results were closer, perhaps he would’ve. But he can’t, when the flawed system he designed himself to boost his own party, turned against him (Hungarian election system heavily boosts parties with 50%+ support). It’s such a landslide that it was impossible to claim it was rigged. Seems Orban isn’t dumb.
ivosaurus@reddit
He has personal connections with probably 80% of Hungary's administrative apparatus, and 70% of Hungary's media, and enough wealth to just live out his years in luxury on a tropical island somewhere should he so please. So I'm hoping he'll just go do that.
Lucius_Furius@reddit
They can modify the constitution and make it so that their people stay in power indefinitely.
winterborn@reddit
While this will hopefully be a good change, the fact that he lost does not mean that he won’t have power to continue controlling the country from behind the scenes.
Wackypunjabimuttley@reddit
The victor is a former party member of orbans party itself.
Strawbuddy@reddit
So he probably wont be too keen on investigating corruption under Orban then? Is he like the Gerald Ford of Hungary or something?
Pick_Scotland1@reddit
He broke from orban due to corruption
maporita@reddit
He's also pro EU and Ukraine and anti Putin.
Lowered12@reddit
What are you talking about lmao
This guy is not pro Ukraine he opposes hungary sending aid to ukraine or them joining EU But yeah he is pro EU so i doubt he will block anything and EU will just make it that hungary wont have to contribute to loans fot Ukraine
bxzidff@reddit
If he at least doesn't sabotage the efforts of other members that is improvement
historicusXIII@reddit
Hungary upgrades from Slovakia to Czechia, but they're not Poland yet.
Illiander@reddit
That's still an improvement, right?
historicusXIII@reddit
It is
PoppingPillls@reddit
Yeah, he'd be a moron not to investigate orban and magyar. That's alone could set his party up politically as that's an incredibly popular move to make and what most Hungarians would likely support.
Britstuckinamerica@reddit
Magyar just said he'll establish a National Wealth Recovery Administration, whose job it is to investigate Orban/Fidesz/his cronies. Excellent stuff
SongFeisty8759@reddit
I'm cautiously optimistic.
zkrooky@reddit
Wait, whose corruption? His or Orban's?
Careless-Caramel-997@reddit
Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/once-inspired-by-orban-hungarys-peter-magyar-unseats-him-landmark-election-2026-04-12/
seatux@reddit
Funny seeing people named Malaysia outside of the country but never in it.
Pick_Scotland1@reddit
Orban
Kaymish_@reddit
He must be corrupt beyond all imagination if he was too corrupt for Orban.
Champagne_of_piss@reddit
You got it twisted. Fidesz corruption was so rampant, magyar had enough.
He's still relatively right wing, but he's not a euroskeptic and has signaled cooperation with the EU on almost every front.
Furthermore he's committed in his victory speech to investigate and prosecute fidesz corruption and crimes.
Pick_Scotland1@reddit
No it was due to orbans corruption
SirStupidity@reddit
Corruption investigation is the red herring. We need to so if he gives power back to the Hungarian institution over his own power, bringing more balance to the Hungarian democracy over his own power. Corruption investigations could be used to get rid of Orban and take power for himself.
VladimiroPudding@reddit
The biggest thing of his campaign was Fidesz corruption and capture of state media.
Like, it is as if this guy has only one job.
Herteity@reddit
He needs to investigate it or he'd lose all his credibility. He is even setting up an anti-corruption branch in the government to abide by EU laws
Lazy_Membership1849@reddit
well they are more Pro EU though
DeepState_Auditor@reddit
Orban has what trump is trying to do in the USA.
A bunch of politically aligned media moguls
Dirkdeking@reddit
Trump has fox
blendertricks@reddit
And CBS. And a number of others started just to support Trump and the alt right.
DeepState_Auditor@reddit
Orban has a lot more
Champagne_of_piss@reddit
Trying to do? I'd say he's all but succeeded.
permissionBRICK@reddit
The important bit is they gained a super majority so they can just replace most of orbans puppets in various positions by force
A_Casual_NPC@reddit
About god damn time. Hungary has been blocking over 100 billion euro in loans to Ukraine. Finally getting that support to them might not directly win them the war, but its a much needed step in the right direction
TheGuy839@reddit
Now slovakia will block
saracenraider@reddit
Isn’t it possible to now overrule one dissenting vote? They couldn’t before as it was Hungary and Slovakia
0xFF0000@reddit
Yep, it will be possible to do that. Unless Bulgaria. We shall see.
Lucius_Furius@reddit
Fico can be bought, and he is less secure in his seat than Orban was. He is an opportunist for sure, but does not have the support Orban had.
VladimiroPudding@reddit
Yeah, ain't Fico in his seat by a tiny margin and Slovaks are slowly getting pissed at him?
Plus, I think the landslide of today sent a good message to the likes in Slovakia, Czechia.
Catalani@reddit
Who cares about the actual Hungarians, what really matters is 100B+ finally going to the meatgrinder lmao
Practical-Pea-1205@reddit
If you're concerned about the lives of Ukrainians say that to Putin. Putin started the war. He literally told George Bush Ukraine is an artificial state. The war has never been about NATO. https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/12/25/8013350/
vplatt@reddit
Lol.. "Artificial"? As if they aren't all "artificial". What a dumbass.
A_Casual_NPC@reddit
Just cause im glad ukraine might now actually get the support they need and deserve, doesnt mean I dont care about the Hungarians. Those are your words, not mine.
Catalani@reddit
It just sounded so hilarious to me that your first reaction had nothing to do with hungary or hungarians, but churning more billions to your deadend proxy war.
milton117@reddit
Good. An aggressor state is being punished.
BurialA12@reddit
So that was the Iran war, punishing them
pythonic_dude@reddit
Reflecting upon it, it's really fucked up that my first thought was "huh, gotta give it to him, he actually conceded without any charades". What kind of fucking miserable world we turned ours into.
aneq@reddit
To be fair, they definitely tried to cheat - over 80% of all mail in votes are for Orban while the in person voting is overwhelmingly pro TISZA (but somewhat in the same proportion everywhere).
How does a party and that just won the supermajority only get 10% of mail in ballots? This suggests election fraud.
SuspecM@reddit
The funny part is that even with this much and blatant cheating, tisza still hit 2/3s majority. The only thing the cheating prevented was losing more face by not losing even harder.
ThatHeckinFox@reddit
It was always like this. Don't let the anomalously calm 2000s and 2010s fool you.
VladimiroPudding@reddit
Yeah, the bar is low, and each new day is getting lower.
I mean, some of the Epistein Clique (namely Bannon and Thiel) were all jolly molly to the fact they were succeeding in driving the US and countries in Europe towards Christian Nationalistic Fascism. Bannon especially is kinda nonchalant about it.
BabylonianWeeb@reddit (OP)
Russia, United states, China and Israel are crying right now for losing their favorite puppet in Europe. Congrats hungary, hopefully Turey will be next and CHP takes over.
Irr3sponsibl3@reddit
Orban was a friend to Israel, but so are most European politicians. Orban promoted Chinese interests in Europe which is a little more rare but a lot of European countries want Chinese investment. Russia is the biggest loser but even then Russian oil and natural gas are going to become more appealing as the Iran situation deteriorates. I don't really know what the US got out of Orban. He endorsed Trump I guess. America's biggest European puppet is either the UK or Germany.
elihu@reddit
I don't speak for our leadership, but for what it's worth I'm definitely not crying about it.
VladimiroPudding@reddit
Man, if AKP loses I will donate the soul of my firstborn or something.
SOHONEYSAME@reddit
I prefer Erdogan.
ChampionshipNo3072@reddit
So,you are saying that Russia, US, China and Israel depended on Hungary, and now they are fucked?
sakezaf123@reddit
That's an exaggeration, but Orbàn's whole job was basically to pave the way for their agenda in the EU, and do everything he could to block a unified EU stance against them.
ChampionshipNo3072@reddit
You are in for a big surprise when other countries in the EU tell Ukraine to fuck off
And that includes Magyarorszag...
Inprobamur@reddit
Magyar avowed to be anti-Russia, that by itself is a big blow to Russian influence operations in the EU.
sakezaf123@reddit
That's hilarious, because the tisza party polled it's members last year during their primaries about support for ukraine, and an overwhelming majority were in support of it. The fact of the matter is, about 70% of people in most EU countries sees the value in supporting ukraine, your lot are just a loud minority.
Firecracker048@reddit
Pro Russia people are very upset over this one.
If Ergodan ever gives up power that would be something
Ready_Spread_3667@reddit
Hehe Facists let me just vote you out
OreoSpeedwaggon@reddit
On one hand, I want to say, "good riddance," but on the other hand, it doesn't feel like much is going to change with Hungary as a result, and it sounds like Orban will still be quite active behind the scenes. Nevertheless, this is still a good step toward a better direction.
aneq@reddit
Orban trying to be „the little mouse to the Russian lion” (his own words) and his foreign minister having a speed dial to Sergei Lavrov and briefing him on everything that was talked about on EU meetings is treason. This is literally treason.
Even if policy doesn’t change much, an obstructionist traitorous russian dog being out of power is a good thing.
ivosaurus@reddit
Not trying to constantly cuck Europe on just merely fucking helping Ukraine while it's being invaded will be a nice change of pace, to speak only of one aspect.
Pepper_Klutzy@reddit
Magyar will probably have a 2/3 majority in the Hungarian parliament. This means he can undo all the changes done by Orban. If he’s honest about his election promises it will change everything for Hungary and the EU. He can ensure Orban never wins agains.
Kiboune@reddit
Finally, no more news with this clown
foothepepe@reddit
Amateur.
In Serbia you import people and give them ID's or citizenships along with voting instructions, bribe, intimidate, beat or kill people from the opposition. Then you prefill the vote papers, disrupt places where you would likely lose, and annul the places where you lose.
At the end, you announce victory whatever the results, and dare EU to say something.
EU is ofc deadly afraid of any non status quo, and filled with corrupt businessmen and politicians that would fight hard for this inside-out-switzerland where they can launder their money and leach the workforce, so they just nod and address you a "president whose win is disputed" for a day or two.
Orban, I am so disappointed. Youuuuu plonker.
Inprobamur@reddit
Considering that most Fidesz voters are old rural folk and the capital streets were full of the opposition 2/3 majority voters, that could have ended poorly for Fidesz.
sakezaf123@reddit
You can't do that when the opposition is such an overwhelming majority. Orban went from a 2/3s majority, to barely getting a thind of the votes, and less than a third of the seats due to the winner takes all system they set up to stay in power.
mournthologist@reddit
I thought that there was zero chance there would be fair elections. Real L for the board of peace or whatever. Rizzless JD Vance showing up to campaign really sealed his fate.
VladimiroPudding@reddit
Supermajority incoming!!
Man, Orbán already packed his shit to Moscow some weeks ago lol better fleeing fast otherwise his ass will be roasted.