All businesses must become a public 3rd space outside of business hours.
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It's weird that so much infrastructure is unavailable to people so much of the time so I propose that all commercial spaces become public space outside of their business hours in order to get any tax deductions at all. If we're subsidizing their business, we should benefit.
Gyms could become rave spaces. Bank lobbies can become boyb speak-easies. Sporting arenas can host team sports leagues. Any office space can host LAN parties. Etc. We need more places to play, and it's dumb to have so much shut down so frequently.
veryblocky@reddit
Unfortunately, a minority of people would end up ruining it for everyone. There are a small number of people who will just trash the place and cause a bunch of mess/damage.
ZestfullyStank@reddit
Bingo. It’s the mess left behind that prevents this. Even if everyone took all their trash with them, cleaned up spills, and reset the place to look just like it did beforehand (thy won’t, but since we are having crazy ideas), the bathrooms would still be covered in piss and shit.
FernShades@reddit
I can't wait for the 2:00 AM rave in the local tax auditor’s office. The vibes would be immaculate
unurbane@reddit
All businesses must…
I get the intent but we have property rights for a reason. Not everyone wants what you want. You need to convince city/county/state leadership that you need a 3rd space.
Own-Vermicelli4267@reddit
I think that’s the real idea here. Advocating for more third spaces by utilizing idle establishments in creative ways.
CalligrapherDizzy201@reddit
They already have third spaces, OP is too lazy to seek them out.
Advanced-Bag-7741@reddit
Most of Reddit doesn’t think property rights should exist
unurbane@reddit
I know. It’s sad people can’t put two and two together.
crazycatlady331@reddit
Who's responsible for the utility bills after hours? What about cleaning (which is often done outside of business hours)?
Own-Vermicelli4267@reddit
The organizer of said event
CalligrapherDizzy201@reddit
This isn’t crazy, it’s dumb.
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schmeckendeugler@reddit
I'll add this. It blows me away how, in huge cities, any abandoned building of any reasonable size stays abandoned.like, that's prime real estate.
Legal_Bed_1506@reddit
Most of the time, they aren’t actually abandoned, just unoccupied.
ExtremeMuffin@reddit
Who is responsible if someone gets hurt on the private property of this closed business? Who is responsible for setting up whatever thing is going to use that space? In your gym example who will move all the gym equipment out of the way and set up the equipment for the rave, then put it all back for the next morning when people come to work out?
How do you ensure security of the businesses products and information?
PoncingOffToBarnsley@reddit
Literally my first thought was "Who's going to eat the cost of repairs and cleanup when some squad of inconsiderate assholes wrecks the place?"
Quirky-Reputation-89@reddit
Shareholders.
undernopretextbro@reddit
What?
Malpraxiss@reddit
Most businesses are not owned by or have investment from shareholders.
The ones that do, no shareholder would agree to this and they all have amazing lawyers.
therealgunsquad@reddit
Most business aren't publicly traded and a ton dont have any investors besides the family that owns them. Even a lot of franchises and chains are basically family run businesses and all the franchise is, is a written agreement that certain things will be the same at all stores but the franchisee owns and operates the store pretty much all on their own.
UglyInThMorning@reddit
But have you considered that the answer is always to just get Reddit’s favorite villains to pay for stuff?
TedW@reddit
That's often the answer, but rarely what happens.
Quirky-Reputation-89@reddit
Such a law would have a dramatic effect on business models, ownership agreements, and other business regulations.
NiceTryAmanda@reddit
check the sub
ExtremeMuffin@reddit
Crazy ideas isn’t stupid ideas.
Brave_Speaker_8336@reddit
I don’t think most businesses are subsidized by taxes
dbelcher17@reddit
I don't think OP understands what a tax deduction is.
gameraturtle@reddit
And even if they were, I doubt OP is paying much of them.
gameraturtle@reddit
Why do I think you’re not subsidizing anyone’s business.
CptPimpslap@reddit
r/im14andthisisdeep
Afraid_Solution_3549@reddit
Such a great idea. When Old Navy stops taking customers at 9pm just leave the doors unlocked so losers can mill around the store until 2am. Nothing could go wrong.
cannonman1863@reddit
Judging by the comments here, that is a perfectly crazy idea.
wosmo@reddit
Gotta be honest, we'd just end up with a nightshift. If we had to let the public in while the business wasn't operating, the business just wouldn't stop operating.
Shawaii@reddit
Ooh. Do houses of whoreship too!
Big_Cassowary@reddit
Brothels?
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w3woody@reddit
Business spaces are owned by people.
So are houses. So are apartments. When you're gone at work, can I throw a party at your house? I swear up and down I won't steal anything or break anything...
dargmrx@reddit
That’s not the same though. If you have the same personal attachment to your workplace that you have to your home and you are just an employee, you have a very unhealthy mindset. The second use of an office is a matter of organisation and maybe insurance. With a home the emotional attachment is very different.
sharpshooter999@reddit
This is the dumbest thing I've seen on Reddit today, and I just watched a guy drive a nail through a power tool battery
BugRevolution@reddit
Was it a poor quality battery he kinda tossed around a bit on the ground afterwards?
Colonol-Panic@reddit
lol if I own my office and invest my money and energy there, why should I be forced to give it up other hours to people I don’t get to pick?
w3woody@reddit
Never been a small business owner, huh.
EqualSein@reddit
While this idea is nuts due to property damage and liability, I would like to see all business parking lots open to the public for free parking outside of business hours.
bangbangracer@reddit
So the insurance company should open up their offices for teens to hangout after 6pm? So many security issues there.
tricky_monster@reddit
Yeah, but they're probably well-insured.
StillShoddy628@reddit
Notoriously not, actually 😉
pakrat1967@reddit
How about we open your home to anyone when you're not there? Cuz what you're suggesting is about the same thing.
BeastyBaiter@reddit
Well, the idea is crazy, I will give it that. I can imagine how well things would go over in a dentist's office or an autobody shop. Seriously though, 3rd spaces are absolutely everywhere from parks to night clubs to car meets in random parkling lots to gyms and gun clubs. If you can't find somewhere to hang out with friends and meet other people, that's a you problem.
WirrkopfP@reddit
That's a security and data security nightmare!
TheMagicMrWaffle@reddit
They would essentially still be open in terms of operating costs. Maybe if a business has an even venue and they make enough money
Leading_Offer5995@reddit
Are you trying to get ants?
Because this is how you get ants.
SuperCyka@reddit
And roaches, and rats, and squatters that will never leave.
ThePlatinumPaul@reddit
Are you slow? Have you seen the aftermath of a rave? And what tax subsidies are you talking about? You know how much businesses pay in taxes?
People like you are the reason why monsters like Lenin, Kim, and Mao got into power. And then ironically are liquidated after their usefulness is over. It's also why us normals refuse to ever give up our guns.
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This comment went places
Calm down dude
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Enby_Rin@reddit
If my company was a 3rd space out of hours someone would definitely get killed or maimed. I work in a place with a lot of industrial machines that will easily injure or kill you if you misuse you. For some businesses I could see that working
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Extension_Future2942@reddit
The gym is already a public 3rd space. Churches shoild be open for more events because they are the places that are getting tax deductions