Part 141 to Part 61 for Instrument?
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Hey everyone, I just passed my PPL checkride at a Part 141 school and I’m planning to start instrument training soon. I’ve been thinking about switching to a Part 61 school to save on cost, but I’m not sure if that’s the best move.
Would it make more sense to switch to Part 61 for instrument, or should I stay at my current Part 141 school for instrument and maybe switch to Part 61 later for commercial? I’m trying to get an idea based on the requirements for Instruments with each program and what makes the most sense in my case.
Feel free to ask any additional questions!
part 141 school rates:
cessna 172 g1000 $245/hr + $75 instructing
no in house DPE
part 61 school rates:
cessna 172 $185/hr + $75 instructing
in house DPE available
Reputation_Many@reddit
Part 61 and never look back.
Also does school have a sim? Sims are excellent for teaching instrument flying skills. My school let us use the sim all we wanted for free. If the instructor was there they charged for instructor but once we were checked out on it we used it all the time. I like to learn at 1x speed initially then gradually go up to 4x speed, then when you’re in the real airplane it’s slowed down enough you don’t feel rushed.
Good luck
sa_film@reddit (OP)
the part 141 school has a nice sim, i honestly don’t think i saw a sim at the part 61. it didn’t cross my mind to even ask. maybe i need to find another part 61? I’m currently at Monarch Air at KGYI, was considering switching to Marcus Air at KHQZ
ReadyplayerParzival1@reddit
Generally cheaper is better. What avionics does the part 61 plane have? For instrument I would say it’s okay to spend a bit more for creature comforts like a gps and hsi
sa_film@reddit (OP)
it says they have the Garmin GTN 650. i honestly feel like i might have screwed myself a little by learning only on the g1000. do you guys think it’ll be a quick transition?
ReadyplayerParzival1@reddit
Things are just less centralized. You’ll get used to the new equipment pretty quick.
makgross@reddit
It’s getting real hard to find a 172 with steam and an actual AI. G5s are everywhere. Add in a WAAS GPS, and you’re just as capable as a G1000, except perhaps for an autopilot.
ReadyplayerParzival1@reddit
G5 is nice yeah. If it has a 650waas even batter
makgross@reddit
And sometimes I need to remind people that not all G1000 are WAAS equipped. A G5 plus GNS650 (all of those have WAAS) may very well be MORE capable. LPV capability is a massive game changer.
ltcterry@reddit
You’ve provided four numbers and proposing a change because on is cheaper. Are you sure which one is cheaper?
Assuming no flying except legit IR training or requirement, how much would each path cost through a practical test?
Before you make this decision, carry the math forward through Commercial.
And consider that Part 61 lets you make your resume more competitive than a cookie cutter 141 program.
One bit maybe cheaper or not does not drive the cheapest to the end goal. Don’t looking at the 5-meter target when the goal is 100 meters away.
sablerock7@reddit
Do you expect to get your ratings with fewer total hours at the 141 vs 61? If so, then it should be part of the calculus.
rFlyingTower@reddit
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Hey everyone, I just passed my PPL checkride at a Part 141 school and I’m planning to start instrument training soon. I’ve been thinking about switching to a Part 61 school to save on cost, but I’m not sure if that’s the best move.
Would it make more sense to switch to Part 61 for instrument, or should I stay at my current Part 141 school for instrument and maybe switch to Part 61 later for commercial? I’m trying to get an idea based on the requirements for Instruments with each program and what makes the most sense in my case.
Feel free to ask any additional questions!
part 141 school rates:
cessna 172 g1000 $245/hr + $75 instructing
no in house DPE
part 61 school rates:
cessna 172 $185/hr + $75 instructing
in house DPE available
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