Sources of fat? | TheaterFire

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Derfel60@reddit

You cant really stockpile fat long term because it goes rancid. Realistically you need to raise animals or grow nuts.

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Hobby_Homebrew@reddit

Nuts made me think of almond butter. it used to be part of the USDA free food program like the welfare cheese.

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Wondering if you can forage nuts? We forage from mature black walnut and hickory trees in our area and have planted chestnuts and hazelnuts ourselves, though it’ll be a few more years before we can harvest from the ones we’ve planted. Sunflower seeds have natural fat, and so do spicebush berries, and we grow those too.

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Derfel60@reddit

Well yes foraging too, though its less reliable. My point really was that you cant just buy a big jar of fat and put it in the cupboard for just in case like you can with other things.

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sevenredwrens@reddit

Totally! I was agreeing with you. We are always looking for sustainable ways to acquire things, especially for stuff we can’t store long term.

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Hefty-Squirrel-6800@reddit

You can buy canned tallow on Amazon. I keep lamb tallow on hand to eat and also as a base for bullet lube and chamber grease for my blackpowder revolvers. To make bullet lube, you melt 50/50 beeswax and tallow. Yes, black powder revolvers and long guns are part of my preps. I literally make everything needed to shoot them.

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neonopoop@reddit

Fishing gear for fresh fish from hopefully clean water.

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4Yk9gop@reddit

Most fish in North America are stocked. If SHTF, the supply (both natural and stocked) would be depleated extremely quickly.

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neonopoop@reddit

Ok boss

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Ryan_e3p@reddit

"Hopefully clean water" is the kicker here. If things get so bad where people are needing to fish for food or whatnot, the environmental protections and water cleanup plants are likely long gone as well. Dams aren't going to be controlled, meaning rivers will flood or run dry much more often. People will be using rivers and streams for dumping waste (human waste, specifically), and using it to bathe in as well. These sorts of activities can be far-reaching, affecting waters miles, several dozen miles, downriver.

Where I live in northern CT, every summer it is almost routine that we get warnings to not swim in or eat fish pulled from the CT river due to several towns up north in MA dumping literally millions of gallons of raw sewage (human waste, used toilet paper, and other things flushed down the toilet). Just three towns accounted for over 500 million gallons of wastewater dumped into the CT river in 2024.

If that happens in good times, what will happen in bad times is likely to be far worse.

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JRHLowdown3@reddit

Yes. Every dunskie up river will be pooping in or near the water, plus failure of systems like you mentioned.

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marlowe_caard@reddit

I think coconut oil has the longest shelf life. We bought a very large container of coconut oil about seven years ago and has yet to go rancid. You can store other oils for a few years safely for the most part, if you just rotate your stock and use the oldest oil first and keep replacing it, then you should be covered for a while.

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daringnovelist@reddit

You can get canned tallow and ghee (clarified butter) but I don’t know how long it lasts while still sealed. I do know that all fats last quite a long time if frozen. I have lard that I’ve used after a couple of years.

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bodybyxbox@reddit

Canned ghee is shelf stable indefinitely iirc. I raise ducks and their skin is very fatty and they are (relatively) easy animals to raise and you get eggs.

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daringnovelist@reddit

Ooo, duck fat!

(BTW - for those who may not know - ghee is from butter. Poultry fat is schmaltz. And delicious!)

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gonyere@reddit

I just used a pint of lard for tamales (and I know there's a couple more I the freezer, buried...) that has to be at least 5-8+ years old. It's been a LONG time since we bought a pig...

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FunNectarine6906@reddit

If kept cool, sealed, and away from the light.. coconut oil, beef tallow, and lard will last for years.

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juancarlospaco@reddit

Whale meat.

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Nvogt752@reddit

I also have a family member on a medical keto diet for epilepsy. I'd recommend coconut oil, MCT oil, ghee, canned coconut milk, Vienna sausages, canned tuna/chicken paired with mayo, canned ham, canned beef, peanut butter, low carb jelly,almonds/almond flour, pecans, macadamia nuts, freeze dried eggs, freeze dried beef, freeze dried pork, canned green beans, canned fruit in water, keto compliant chocolate, stevia or Monk fruit, electrolyte powder, a way to measure ketones, and glucose tablets or gel (in case of high ketones).

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Ok_Exchange342@reddit

My son as epilepsy and I have always worried how we could manage it, I know about the Keto diet; why do you believe you need access to extra fat?

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JRHLowdown3@reddit

You might want to check out Mugwort-

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RedBullPilot@reddit

Once upon a time high fat keto diet was the only treatment for both childhood epilepsy and Type I diabetes, so in a SHTF scenario, this might be the only option for some folks

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Involuntary-Expert@reddit

Fat is one of the hardest things to acquire in nature, and it's an absolutely vital nutrient. It stores well, but is generally heavy/bulky and takes of space.

There are plenty of shelf stable fat sources. Tallow, Clarified Butter, Crisco, Lard. One that people overlook a lot is Peanut Butter. Very high in fat and calories, stores for forever, everyone loves it. I'd also recommend corn beef hash or something of that nature. It's surprisingly tasty, it's hugely calorie dense, it stores very well and it's a great source of fat, protein and carbs.

As for renewable sources of fat there are a few options depending on your set up. If you're in the position to have large animals, obviously milk cows or goats are awesome. If you can only have small animals you could make due with chicken's and rabbits. Eggs are high in fat but more importantly making chicken stock by boiling the bones is extremely effective. Rabbit is the same way, they're even less fatty but are compact, easy to care for and feed, reproduce enthusiastically and you can make bone broth with the carcass for your fats. If you can't have animals at all, try your hand at gardening high fat vegetables. Specifically legumes like Peanuts. Peanuts are a heart crop that grows well in a variety of environments and will keep you stocked on oil, fat and peanut butter. Alternatively, sunflowers are very easy to grow and harvest, and eating the seeds is an inefficient but reliable source of natural fat. Hope this helps!

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Ra_a_@reddit

Peanut butter doesn’t store forever. Does it?

Really ?

Preppers are concerned about r/StopEatingSeedOils also though

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JRHLowdown3@reddit

No, standard store bought not dehydrated peanut butter will NOT store forever.

After about a year you will see separation, you can stir it a bit. A little past that it tastes like shit. And I'm a guy that regularly eats 20-30 year old LTS food, so the "taste" thing to me is nothing as sensitive as most folks.

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Opheliattack@reddit

I don’t think any prepper in a situation is going to turn down resources for any reason other than allergies... I’ve knocked out 90% of plastic in my life and don’t consume any seedoils. If things are bad and I cum across a jug of rapeseed oil I’m bringing that bad boy back with a hop in my step..

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Involuntary-Expert@reddit

Safely sealed and in a dry place, Peanut butter is edible WELL past its expiration date.

While processed seed oils are looked down upon (idk man, do your own research) sunflower seeds are so rich in oil that all you have to do to get it is blend them and squeeze it out, similar to olives.

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Rachaelmm1995@reddit

Grow sunflowers 🌻

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i-eat-b33s@reddit

Is dehydrated butter an option?

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TheoreticalCall@reddit

I recently opened jar of expeller pressed coconut oil that I bought around 15 years ago, it's just as good as when I bought it. It's been stored indoors at room temps between 60-85F.

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HarpyCelaeno@reddit

There’s a certain kind of coconut oil that has the best shelf life of all fats. I just ordered some.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07H2P73TN?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

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HarpyCelaeno@reddit

Oops. Just found out I ordered the wrong kind. Fractionated , unrefined coconut oil is what I need. Guess I’ll use this stuff for baking and frying

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MerelyMortalModeling@reddit

In the short term you can store oil or tallow.

Longer term I'd grow flax or sunflowers. Both have decent yields from a modest home plot and with a press.

Both are pretty easy to grow and most importantly it's easy to collect and store the seeds for the next year. Flax yield linen fiber if your interested in that and crushed sunflower seed can be added to bread and other foods for protein or used for animal feed.

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bippy404@reddit

Ghee.

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zorionek0@reddit

Did you know it comes in a spray can?

They call it Ghee Wiz.

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YourHighness1087@reddit

Fish oil, avocado oil, beef tallow, whole butter, heavy cream, whipping cream.

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musthavecheapguitars@reddit

Black walnut trees produce tons of walnuts. You can't really cook with walnut oil, though, because it has a low smoke point. Hazelnut oil, however, can be used as a cooking oil.

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sevenredwrens@reddit

Hickory oil too!

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Potential-March-1384@reddit

Crisco lasts 2 years unopened, longer than that you need other options, as others have said.

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owlbehome@reddit

Came here to say powdered butter. Winco strategically put some cans over by the bulk beans and rice and I totally bit. I’d never heard of such a thing before but I feel a lot more prepared after having shelled out $30 bucks for a huge can with a supposedly 10 year shelf life.

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blazo811@reddit

I keep a lot of peanut butter on hand. Lots of fat/fiber/(incomplete) protein. Pretty decent shelf life. We eat a lot of it, so I just cycle through it quite easily.

Coconut oil is pretty good too. I use it for cooking on occasion and also as an ingredient in my homemade deodorant, but I don't go through that much so have a number of expired jars sitting around. Should be fine to keep my pits in check for quite some time.

I also keep a lot of canned sardines packed in olive oil, which I also consume regularly.

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Ra_a_@reddit

Peanut butter dates-out pretty quickly though

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Mule_Wagon_777@reddit

Canned tuna in oil will last quite awhile, and I think you can get other fish in oil.

You can stock extra vegetable oil but you'll need to rotate it.

There is freeze-dried powdered butter but it's much lower in fat than fresh butter.

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TwiLuv@reddit

Also, look at the studies on a ketosis diet for epileptics, understanding the medical process, what is recommended will eliminate errors.

Early medical studies on keto diets were specifically reporting on efficacy for diabetics AND epileptics.

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