Can I buy a small parcel of Woodland for around 13k? my mum's slowly going downhill and I want to give her a green space of her own, she loves birds and wildlife but a local farmer killed all her crow friends.

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Fit-Bedroom-7645@reddit

Realistically, do you need to own it? Plenty of countryside to enjoy without needing to buy it. Investigate your local area, find a nice spot and take her there, maybe bring some camping chairs and a picnic.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

I have mentioned this, but she's so traumatized from the farmer killing all her Crow friends that she'd made (they'd bring her gifts) that it's really sent her into a negative spiral, I hoped having her own (legal) green space she could try to befriend some animals again.

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Timely_Egg_6827@reddit

I understand that and it is horrible. I am wondering though if it might be worth contacting a sanctuary or reserve and seeing about access there. Land tends to be expensive even if just for hobby use.

https://www.woodlands.co.uk/buying-a-wood/north-wales/

https://www.northwaleswildlifetrust.org.uk/nature-reserves

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

It's just the transportation of my mum that'd be hard because she gets set off easily when going over a bump or something, that was why I wanted to buy a small plot and stick her a good hide up with what she needs then pick her up when needed, it does seem like the possibility of fly tipping/dumping could be a huge issue that I hadn't thought about

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Timely_Egg_6827@reddit

I did see something that might be perfect for £15k on rightmove but depends on where you are - I looked North Wales. Someone selling off part of very large garden so road and people around to monitor.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

13k is unfortunately my max, and like a few folks have said; I think the fees will be heavy so I'm not sure I actually have enough money now.

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wordsfromlee@reddit

But you don’t need to own the green space to do that.

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omniwrench-@reddit

Did you miss the bit where circumstances outside her control ruined her sanctuary?

It’s pretty clear OP wants his mum to own the next sanctuary.

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Brent_Goose@reddit

But wildlife comes and goes. It doesn't matter if she owns the woodland if the farm bordering it puts down poison.

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omniwrench-@reddit

It’s about degrees of control though isn’t it mate

Yeah you can’t control everything, but you can do more to be more secure.

We’re talking about an older lady with a degenerative condition who wants to find some peace and quiet, I don’t think it reflects well that you’re so keen to argue the toss about things

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Cheers

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omniwrench-@reddit

My pleasure mate.

Hope you can find a piece of peace for your mam.

If you find some potential sites and want a (semi) informed opinion, I’m a Landscape Architect, would be happy to answer any questions you might have about things or signpost you to useful resources as best I can (no charge obviously)

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Much appreciated, might just be giving you a shout if I get lucky with a parcel of land!

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Tequila-Tarn@reddit

That’s not normally how they kill crows.

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Jake_91_420@reddit

Would it be easier to get a pet? Even if you owned a small woodland, you wouldn't own the animals there and something could still easily happen to them elsewhere.

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littleboo2theboo@reddit

And you won't own any future wildlife

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JadedActivity5935@reddit

Hello ☺️I’m afraid that I know nothing about buying woodland, but I have MS and have a bunch of crow friends too. I just wanted to pop my head up and say I think what you’re trying to do for your Mum is lovely 🥰🥰. And I’m sorry to hear about her crow friends ☹️ xx Best of luck to you both xx

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Thanks

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yvieknievel@reddit

Me too! I understand concerns about privately owned woodland but to be for real it's all owned by private companies and the upper class anyway. I'd rather our woodlands were owned by real people who are actually going to be there and tend to it!

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Oh definitely, our woodland is going downhill with neglect, lack of funding and apathy from the nation

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tall-not-small@reddit

Depends on the area, you might get an acre or 2 if very lucky

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Sorry I completely forgot to add the area, she's based in Barmouth but I'm currently trying to get her to move back to Derbyshire as I'm her only family

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Randomfinn@reddit

Have you considered taking her on some narrowboat hires? Depending on where you go, lots of wildlife, once she is in everything is a flat surface and short distance to the toilet. You can make food aboard. And when you tire of one view you can move to another.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Funnily enough she's been telling me to help her buy a barge to live on but she doesn't understand she wouldn't be physically able to live that life style, and unfortunately I have bills to pay and a roof to keep so I can't be there all the time.

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Randomfinn@reddit

If the barge is docked in a marina it would have shore power and easy access to water. You would also be able to hire someone at the marina to check in on her and keep her topped up, empty the toilet, carry the heavy gas cylinders; groceries and supplies can be delivered. Then, when you have time, you can take her out on the cut to see a bit of nature.

Have a look at cruising the cut on YouTube, he has several videos of people living aboard with disabilities.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

That's not a bad shout, if I could do the barge and marina for around 13k I can hopefully provide the yearly marina costs.

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Ochib@reddit

There is no chance that you would get a barge for £13k, you are looking at £70k plus for a barge.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Yeah not a chance of that happening, she got really into reading books about people living on barges and has an idealistic view, whereas I'm very much a realist.

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tia2181@reddit

Mobility wise it would be a nightmare imo, doing steps to board and offload is number one, small space for bathroom needs. Nightmare. Sorry to hear your mum is struggling, one of my aunts had MS; disabled for decades, and I have a chronic pain condition affecting my leg and hip so understand mobility and self care issues. Don't forget she will need DWP financial support, so a fixed address for that. Travelling to and from somewhere to enjoy woodland could be hard going on her.
Hope things progress slowly and simply for her.

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Brave_Reaction_4968@reddit

You can look on woodlands.co.uk for woods for sale. 13k wouldn't get you very far where I am, but you might be lucky.

That said, if her health is failing, I think you need to think very hard about whether the hassle of getting to woodlands, taking care of woodlands, is going to work for her, and you.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

That's the site that I've been checking, but unfortunately nothing viable has appeared yet.

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Biene2019@reddit

There is also a Facebook Group called Land and woodlands for sale UK. Worth a shot trying there maybe?

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Nice one I'll have a look

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lexx-ray@reddit

There is also a FB group called Women Owning Woodland. Lots of the women on there are willing to share or allow gentle use of their owned land. If you can't find somewhere to buy, maybe you can meet up with some owners local to you who would allow use of some private land.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Thanks I'll check it out

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_this_isnt_me_@reddit

You could try https://www.forests.co.uk/

I think they handle a lot of second sales - i.e. people who have bought from woodlands.co.uk and are selling it on. It can be slightly cheaper 🤞

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spammehere98@reddit

If you are convinced about purchasing try looking for other websites. You may find more options and better prices per acre. Some local agents will specialise in agricultural sales.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

That's what I'm on with now!

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Interesting_Eye1418@reddit

I also had my crow friends killed by the local farmer and my reaction was to buy myself a mynah bird. He has been amazing really full of life and very chatty. You might consider buying one for your mum.

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Subaruchick99@reddit

What a lovely thing to be doing for her ❤️

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Cheers, got a bit overwhelmed with all the comments so I can't reply to them all but thanks for everyone's input

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lkap28@reddit

My mum loves birds and I bought her a camera bird feeder last year - like a Ring doorbell, it records whenever any birds stop and eat the food laid out. She loves it and still checks it all the time. She’s lucky enough to have her own garden but I’m sure someone would be willing to let you set one up so your mum has a constant livestream! Could even pop over and put down bird seed etc.

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lkap28@reddit

Try asking in local facebook groups - there’ll be plenty of people with land (or even space at the bottom of a large garden) who would be more than happy to help!!

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lkap28@reddit

Not quite woodland but could you find an allotment patch somewhere semi-rural?

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PolarLocalCallingSvc@reddit

You can, yes, though you may need to search further afield.

The two big issues will be:

You'll have to deduct a bunch of fees from that like auction commission, conveyancing fees, etc.
Even freehold land can and does come with 'negative easements', which may restrict what can be done with the land. You can find this out from the deeds etc in the relevant land registry, but many are incomplete, and each request will cost you money. In this sense it depends what she wants to do with the land. Be aware though that some negative easements can cost money, e.g. maintaining a water supply for a nearby property. It's something to get proper advice on but obviously the more advice you get the less money you'll have for purchase.

Does she live close enough to something like a bird or animal sanctuary? If she's 'going downhill' then investing in property isn't usually a great option because of all the ancillary costs. An annual membership to a sanctuary might be a better option?

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Thanks that's good information, this is the sort of thing I need to educate myself on.

As for the money, it's hers to spend as she pleases, I'm not looking to get anything for myself (just not in debt).

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PolarLocalCallingSvc@reddit

Sorry to be clear on the money front I wasn't suggesting you were trying to get money out of her - I was merely thinking that if her interest is wildlife then the money might be better spent on sanctuaries than the hassle and expensive which comes with maintaining woodland. She could even spend the money going on trips abroad to see more exotic wildlife etc. It obviously depends what her health situation actually is but, without being morbid, if you expect it to be fairly short term then I think a cruise, safari, or just trips (UK or abroad) to see different wildlife might give her a better experience than buying woodland.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Unfortunately her health and muscles wouldn't allow her to sit to travel for too long, that was my first idea.

No sorry the housing situation is something separate, she's been evicted into accomodation that isn't fit for her needs but the council aren't doing anything about it, so along side finding her a piece of land, I'm also in the process of looking for a property we can live in together.

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PolarLocalCallingSvc@reddit

I understand mate.

I am also wondering in that case about sort of multi point journeys to see wildlife.

My mum is an electric wheelchair user. She can in theory manage a few steps on crutches but it's very hard work for her, and certain gradients and things are riskier. What I tend to do with her is break up long distance trips into more manageable chunks. So if I were to take her from north Wales where she lives to the west coast of Scotland to see the whales, we might take a couple of days to do it (she's ok on trains actually which makes things easier).

I'm not against your woodland plan by the way, it might be the right option for you! I just wanted to set some expectations that of you've got £13k to spend you won't get £13k of woodland. If you want affordable woodland then I expect but don't know that SW or the far NW of Scotland may be your option. There may also be some affordable stuff in the Flow Country in the far NE of Scotland. The trade off here is that if you don't live nearby then the travel cost will set you back. But from your mum's point of view if she owns the land she can have a caravan there as long as she wants basically. There's diverse wildlife up here because it's not so affected by urban lifestyle like lights and motor vehicles. It's quiet, peaceful, and on both sides of the mainland you get decent marine wildlife.

I just don't know exactly what you'd get for £13k minus fees. Might be something to speak to a woodland estate agent about (yes they exist!)

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Brilliant info, yeah we've done journeys before but she struggles to travel anymore because any bumps on the journey send her into a lot of pain.

I've asked around where she lives in Barmouth but no one seems to want or is able to help her unfortunately.

Aye the fees and all that stuff is what I need to learn, worries about some unscrupulous person having us over.

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TsundokuAfficionado@reddit

How about a campervan? I have arthritis and being able to pull over every couple of hours and lie down for a bit or have a nap makes longer journeys much easier. Also lumbar and coccyx cushions. Depending on the configuration she could possibly see the wildlife from the bed, too, instead of sitting in a tent or hide.

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PolarLocalCallingSvc@reddit

In Barmouth I shouldn't think you'd have to move too far to get some cheap woodland.

I would be cautious of the national park authority covered land just because they have more restrictions and while I know a lot of them from growing up in north Wales I can see someone kicking up a fuss one day and the NPA siding against your mum (maybe for good or bad reason, but that's another matter).

A bit more into 'the valleys' not far away and you might get something reasonable.

Sadly I'm not surprised regarding people helping out but I also can't blame them. Would you give over a £10k piece of land on the hope that it's donated back in a will? Probably not! If she really just wants somewhere for her caravan though I reckon you will find a farmer or landowner around there to do it. The cheapest way will be literally knocking on doors, and offering to pay for the contract draft. Otherwise like I said earlier it'll probably cost a whack in land registry document requests.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Thanks for the parks advice, as for the money i'd be paying the owner by bank transfer, working class miners family so no point in doing a Will as we've got nowt.

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PolarLocalCallingSvc@reddit

Ooh err yes but a will contains more than just who this woodland goes to. I'm not saying you definitely need a will but if we're talking palliative care then I would suggest a chat with Age Concern or CAB for your mother. There's more than you think to consider, including, and again this is a bit morbid, life or death decisions.

I hope you sort it all out mate. It's a difficult position to be in but millions others in the UK will be in a similar position this year alone and there's plenty of support out there. Make use of it.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Cheers

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Away-Ad4393@reddit

If you do decide to go ahead and buy some land please make sure you have insurance in case someone trespasses and has a fall or hurts themselves. My father had a small piece of woodland and someone fell over the gate trying to get in and then tried to blame the land owner ( father) luckily he had insurance and that paid his legal fees to fight it.

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PolarLocalCallingSvc@reddit

I have to ask a couple of things on this:

What country was this in?
Did your dad build or maintain the gate?

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Away-Ad4393@reddit

England. He bought the gate which was a 5 bar farm gate to replace an old rotten one, the gate and gateway was all part of his property.

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PolarLocalCallingSvc@reddit

So next two questions haha

Was this part of a PRoW or access land?
Did he get third party liability insurance cover for this purchase?

The reason for question 2 here is that it's a common pitfall of land purchasers not to get third party liability insurance for land they own and then it's really difficult to sort out in their favour, even if the walker or cyclist or whoever was just daft!

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Away-Ad4393@reddit

His land was not PRoW or access land and I’m sorry but all I know about the insurance is that he was insured by NFU.

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PolarLocalCallingSvc@reddit

I'm not sure then but I do work with farmers and they generally take out third party liability insurance which covers them for incidents on fences and stiles. It is a bit different up here in Scotland but my guess is he didn't have third party liability cover and while I appreciate the claims of walkers and farmers, if you own land that is a responsibility.

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Away-Ad4393@reddit

I agree re OP, owning woodland is not as straightforward as it may seem.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Good point.

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whatatwit@reddit

By coincidence I just happened to read this story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgmexkw8923o

I looked up the chartered surveyor for you https://www.jonathan-wallis.co.uk and looked through his land sales.

Perhaps, he knows something up his way that would fit the bill.

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Scuba_Ted@reddit

This kind of lad goes for £5k an acre and up to huge amounts.

The best thing to do would be to phone the local agents (estate agents and land agents). They might well know if something.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Sorry I don't quite understand the first bit

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behemuffin@reddit

They mean land. This kind of land (ie woodland) starts at around £5k per acre and goes up to huge prices.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Yeah I've just seen some for 98k!

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LiliWenFach@reddit

I had a look at a plot for sale near me (in north Wales) in case it would be suitable, and that led me into looking for other woods in Wales, as property/land seems to be cheaper here than in England.

The average seems to be about 15k per acre. The downside is that every plot I've seen for sale is 2+ acres.

I know your mum doesn't like farmers, but they might be your best bet. My dad and his friends used to run a shoot. (Your mum probably wouldn't like my dad either. ) Farmers/landowners would let them use woodland for free, so long as they maintained it. The areas that were no good for grazing were theirs to use - huge swathes of woodland. Maybe someone might offer something similar for your mum - an acre on an estate, as long as she doesn't erect a dwelling?

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Sure-Butterscotch290@reddit

It would be worth reaching out to the woodland trust or your local wildlife trust and see if there are any woodlands or other green spaces near you. They may be owned or managed by the charities and they may have programmes to help people have better access to green spaces. They may well have hides (BTO or WWT definitely do on a lot of sites) and are often protected and have rangers etc and shooting is not allowed. Most conservation charities will have engagement officers who would love to help your mum out! If you need any help trying to find suitable places, please DM me, but here are a few places to try

https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/ https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/wildlife-trusts

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BonnieH1@reddit

I'm sorry to hear about your mum and the lack of concern from the council.

How about looking for a wood / wildlife project near you.

This is one I'm familiar with, but it's too far away from North Wales to make it possible to visit regularly.

https://www.thewhitelandsproject.co.uk/

There's an RSPB group in North Wales. Maybe they would be worth contacting to see if there are places your mum could visit.

https://group.rspb.org.uk/northwales/

Sending my very best wishes to you and your mum! I hope she is able to find some new feathered friends.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Thanks

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Inevitable-Debt4312@reddit

Perhaps you could arrange with a farmer to allow you both to visit?

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Ideally but the local people around my village have been less than helpful & I wouldn't know where else to start looking for farmers with woodland

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Pristine_Health_2076@reddit

Where are you based? I know some very helpful and lovely people in the Bath area that care take some woodland. I’ve not spoken to them in a long time but if helpful I’d be happy to try and put you guys in touch.

One of the caretakers has a loved one with MS, they’d be understanding.

Odds are slim it’s the right area for you but just in case x

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Bath is a bit far but thank you for the offer

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Inevitable-Debt4312@reddit

Maybe Rural Minds or The Farming Community Network could help?

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rohepey@reddit

Not sure which part of Derbyshire you live in, but these 1.5 acres for £10k seem to be within your budget:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/173054495

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Yeah no worries, these always end up way out of my price range but thanks for looking

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Zounds90@reddit

Are you near a wwt centre? They're lovely.

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TehTac@reddit

How about you both joining the RSPB? I had a quick search and there are a few RSPB reserves there that are accessible, have wheelchair-friendly trails (some provide chairs) and so on. It could be a nice regular day out for the two of you, a spot of lunch and then a couple of hours on the reserve watching the birds

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

That's a nice idea, I'll check the locations if they're close to her

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herne_hunted@reddit

RSPB will also send her a monthly magazine to keep her in touch with what's happening. If you want more involvement they will happily take a donation to sponsor and support anything from a nestbox to a bench to a whole nature reserve.

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Few_Wolf_4634@reddit

Is she still in north wales? There’s a great one just by Conwy.

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JeffSergeant@reddit

Be aware there are other costs involved. You need liability insurance in case someone injures themselves on your land, and fly tipping is an epidemic right now; if someone dumps a lorry load of rubbish on your land not only are you on the hook for cleaning it up, just think how much of an impact that might have on your mum too.

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rohepey@reddit

I'm sorry about your mum.

Of course you can buy woodland. Very kind and thoughtful of you!

You can also build a shelter or shed, e.g., to store goods necessary to manage your woodland:

https://www.woodlands.co.uk/owning-a-wood/woodlands-and-planning-legislation/

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phatboi23@reddit

"store tools and material necessary to manage your woodland":

it's the running joke if me and my mate buy land together...

in the shed is just a pair of "tools" lol

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Thanks, I've been having a look this morning and it's seems that what I want to do would be fully legal, got a decent old military style tarp/tent that I can set her up with drinks/food/clothes/meds etc

Nothing permenant, apart from bird/bat/bee boxes I'd fix for her

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nightfire_83@reddit

Another for woodlands.com, or what ever it is. Could you not ask about, of anyone has any land or woods/copses/etc, and you rent a section for the remainder of her time, and can do as you both wish? Put a small tourer caravan there for day use only (cough cough)??

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Yeah this is what I wanted to do but I'm awful at networking & slightly worried about someone having me over a barrel because of how in depth these things can be

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nightfire_83@reddit

Just ask, and don't commit to anything if you're not happy.

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Potential_Coast8072@reddit

No, this probably isn't a realistic ambition.

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julialoveslush@reddit

I feel awful saying this, but please be aware if your mum passes on it’s yet another thing you will have to deal with. I agree with taking her somewhere instead.

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kalendral_42@reddit

If you want to get an overview of what it’s like to buy a patch of woodland from the council Sandi Toksvig did a TV series in the last couple of years about buying a patch of woodland. Her aim was to get it returned to a wild state/wild habitat for local animals/birds so not all of it would be relevant but it might give you some idea of what’s involved

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ToManyTabsOpen@reddit

Contact Land agents in your specific area, the stuff you see online(woodlands) is the stuff that couldn't be sold offline.

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JohnCasey3306@reddit

My dad bought a patch of woodland (approx 2.5 acres -- ~70m x ~150m) in 2010 for around £20k (East Sussex).

Significantly, no development permitted -- land with development potential is of course priced accordingly!

Another significant point though, even as the freehold owner, there are all sorts of limitations written into the ownership -- he's not allowed to add permanent or temporary facilities (including collecting rain water); no permanent or temporary structures (can't build a simple shed); and nobody is allowed to camp there.

Same as houses, the legal constraints will be different from one plot to the next -- but check out what limitations exist before making the purchases, especially since you have a specific use in mind.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Thanks

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eyesonly456@reddit

About an acre depends on location you might find something

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

I've been looking online around Derbyshire but I'm honestly out of my depth as I've never owned anything, I still rent my flat.

I was hoping to find some gracious farmer who'd part with 1/4 acre of woodland but I only seem to find larger areas for sale

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eyesonly456@reddit

Yeah you will struggle with farmers doing it. Let me take a look and see if I can find something or at least a little land and you plant your own

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

I would greatly appreciate that, feel free to DM me on here.

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eyesonly456@reddit

So looking at all the places we use, land seems to be the better bet for you. Derbyshire doesn't have many woodlands available for sale. There are 4 acres of land that's 48k I've seen benefits of that is carbon offset and there are companies that will pay you to plant it up. Other ways I would do it,is on Rightmove some auction house have awkward pieces of land for sale that might suit you So it's going to depend on how much work and how much you want to spend

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Work wise it doesn't phase me, I'm a RHS certified Horti and I've done some forestry work in the past, I'd be happy to barter work for a discount.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Good idea on the rightmove land parcels though.

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Bloatville@reddit

Yes I was just about to jump in and suggest going on rightmove & adding the 'land' filter.

I had a peep at Derbyshire and there was a couple of spots for just under £20k, but anything cheaper wasn't countryside plots unfortunately.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Thanks for the group link

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eyesonly456@reddit

There are community groups that will come do some of the work with you, just so they can get the experience for themselves so worth looking around. I think with your experience you buy land and then it could be a nice little income over the years as well as filling your original goals

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Aye, that's a good plan, I've been involved in a few charity schemes and worked at a few residential homes/assisted accomodations.

Just finding the land what's that quote "build it and they will come"?

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eyesonly456@reddit

Keep me posted on how you get on, I'm only in stoke so happy to come give a day or two to help out

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Nice one!

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apple_kicks@reddit

More south wales but i have seen fields and orchards for sale on right move type sites before

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ServerLost@reddit

Might be better off coming to an arrangent with somebody who owns grounds near you. If you live next to famers land is at a premium.

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Dull_Hawk9416@reddit

Is there any farms close by with woodland? If so approach the farmer, explain the situation and ask if you could rent some woodland. This might be more affordable

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BraveLordWilloughby@reddit

Why not get her a National Trust membership? She can sit around all day if she wants to.

But, In answer to your question, you probably could get a small patch of commercially useless land for £13-thousand. It'll be small, rough, probably somewhere in deepest darkest North Wales would have the best prices.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

The travel to and fro different National Trust sites could potentially make her worse and she's not the most social person, much prefers her own company.

Thanks for the idea though

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funnystuff79@reddit

To help you out I've been looking for residential caravan parks where they've worked with nature, rather than parking caravans in a field, it's a struggle.

I know of a community place near London that's full of individual homes and caravans. Mostly wooded, great community. Issue is it's a friendly nudist place, so trying to find something similar that isn't nudist.

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

That's a great idea, I've not found anywhere like that around here.

Not the nudity, reckon that'd add a few years to her though!

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funnystuff79@reddit

Honestly it's not a big deal 🤣. Once you realise no-one else cares what you look like

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rice_fish_and_eggs@reddit

Yeah, we bought 3.5 acres of woodland a few years ago. Cost a lot more than £13k though. You can put a shepherds hut or something mobile on it but you cant live on it for more than 28 days per year or something like that. It's definitely worth doing if you want to get into woodland craft but I doubt you'll make any animal friends. They tend to come out at night and your presence will disturb them.

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Easy-Equal@reddit

https://www.woodlands.co.uk/

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L-0-T-H-0-S@reddit

Most of the woodland in North Wales woodlands listed by specialized agents in Wales start closer to £30,000–£50,000 for 2–5 acres. It's a nice idea, but you can fine woodland virtually anywhere, you don't have to buy it, just seek permission for your mother to visit it while she's able.

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Fit-Replacement-551@reddit

Really sorry about that. I hope and pray you find the perfect place you are looking for

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Insomniacbychoice90@reddit (OP)

Thanks

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