Going for my first type. Any tips?
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Hey guys 1900 TT 250 multi pilot over here. As the title states, I’ll start my first type rating training in 2 weeks to fly the Learjet 31A. Any tips?
Thanks!
TheCattyWompus@reddit
I haven't flown the 31, but I do fly the 35 which is the same type rating. The 35 is a small rocket and I've heard the 31 is even more so. Congrats!
I'm assuming they gave you material to study beforehand. Prioritize knowing the memory items and limitations cold, it's an expectation that you will know them going in. Write them down even if you were provided flashcards, this will help you actually commit them to memory. Chair fly all of your emergency procedures so they become muscle memory. Get your flows down. Also make sure you have a basic understanding of the systems - I wouldn't get too caught up in the little nuances of them as this will be explained in depth in the classroom, but be able to give a general explanation of how things work. Go in prepared, do what they say, and enjoy your new type!
thereal_bettycrocker@reddit
The biggest piece of advice the chief pilot gave me and my class when I got my first type, it's just an airplane. Push and the ground gets bigger, pull and the ground gets smaller, get too slow you stall, too fast you might rip a wing off. Don't let the systems overwhelm you, it's impossible to know and memorize everything. Cooperate and graduate as others have said, the real learning happens when you actually start flying the plane.
Number1innovation@reddit
Memorize the CAE/FSI flash cards, any company callouts, and memory items before showing up then it'll be easy!
DragonofLightning@reddit
Just got my LJ31A SIC type at SIMCOM Orlando a few months ago. DMs are open and happy to assist if you have any questions. Like everyone said in here, cooperate to graduate and have the memory items/limitations down pat.
Tall_Sherbert7375@reddit
Come in with limitations and memory items already memorized or very close to memorized. Pay attention in ground school. You’ll be surprised how much you learn just from being in the classroom for 8 hours a day for 2 weeks.
In the sims listen to the instructor about tips/locations to look for on the circle to land, such as a building and for timing for how long you should turn and to what heading for the circle (JFK or MEM).
Study with your sim partner. Do flashcards with limitations and memory items once in the morning when you first wake up and first think before going to bed. You’ll be shocked at how fast you’ll be able to recite the answer after seeing/hearing 1/3 of the question.
The last few days before your checkride don’t cram. Just review limitations and memory items 2x a day like I stated above. Have some beers and good food.
If you follow what CAE/FSI says you’ll be golden, I promise.
Diligent_Digiridoo@reddit
Just do exactly what they say. Don’t try to study ahead and be a genius
For memory items/limitations flash cards make it super easy. I’d bring supplies to make those.
Other than that just show up w a positive attitude willing to learn and you’ll be golden. You’re gonna be overwhelmed by how much faster you’re going at first but you’ll be fiiiiiiine
TemporaryAmbassador1@reddit
Do: fly good
Don’t: suck
AIRdomination@reddit
All type rating checkrides are the same. Identical.
You need to know the following, stone cold: • Memory Items • Flows • Limitations • Callouts
You get those down, you will do fine.
buzzliteyear22@reddit
Knowing the Memory items and limitations before you get to school helps immensely!! I got my first type rating this past October. When they turn the fire hose on at school, try not to get overwhelmed (like I did lol) the main things are the plain things (memory items and limitations) the rest you’ll really learn out on the line. Congratulations!!
AviatorDave@reddit
Before you get there, memorize limitations, emergency procedures, and what every light on the annunciator panel means. Flash cards help A LOT. Especially if you make your own. It helps with the memorization. Everything else you will learn in class. At the end of each day, go over the systems you learned that day and hit up the flash cards again. By the time you get to the oral, you’ll have everything down.
I got about 1000 hours in the 31. It’s a good plane, but it’s still an old school Lear that try’s to kill you so you gotta stay on top of it. Overall it will make you a better pilot with the experience. Have fun!
PlaneShenaniganz@reddit
Learn as much as possible before you show up.
Are they issuing you study materials/an airplane manual/etc.?
If so:
Study limitations and memory items every day. You should show up with these memorized at the absolute bare minimum.
Study every system. Go one by one. Take notes. Turn off your phone and remove all distractions. If you finish, go through them again.
If you have all the limitations and memory items memorized and have gone through systems twice, start looking through your normal profiles, callouts, checklists, flows, etc.
Flightle@reddit
Limitations and memory items are things that are under your control and are usually non-negotiable in the oral. Otherwise, do exactly what they teach you and remember that their procedures in the sim may differ from what you’ve done or will do at another company but you’ll learn them and perform them. In other words, cooperate to graduate.
Flimsy-Ad-858@reddit
Do exactly what they tell you. They're not there for trick you, you're a customer.
Congratulations on making it to the jet world.
Sad-Improvement-2031@reddit
Know the limitations well enough to apply them while busy. I went to random metars and thought ok what anti ice is required, am i within xw limits etc.
Also for practicing flows and such i played clash royale while going through them and that helped them stick much better than just reading them out loud
ce402@reddit
31 is a simple jet, and very forgiving unlike most Lears. But it’s an older design that predates many current features that make pilot’s lives easier.
Hopefully they’ll send you training materials before hand, but the big ones will be limitations and memory items. If you’re training at simcom, they don’t do triggers and flows, but read and do or do-verify checklists.
The big one with legacy learjets is the annunciator panel. Know what every one of those lights means. Many of them have multiple meanings if you’re on the ground or in the air, steady or flashing, and some even have different meanings if they present in combination with another light.
First type is a lot, but don’t forget to relax and get exercise at the hotel, and only study materials l you’re being given. And ask questions.
davisre114@reddit
Lear Jets are some of the best flying airplanes out there though they are a bit touchy. The 31a specifically is a beauty. Wherever you go Cae or FSI theyre all usually really chill. Pay attention, you get flash cards for your memory items and limitations, if someone at your company has some I would grab them, thats about all you need or can do before you go.
FL060@reddit
Nothing too specific! Primacy rules, you don't want to have to unlearn something in that 3 week period.
I would review the more advanced systems part of the PHAK just to have an idea of the terminology used.
UNDR08@reddit
Cooperate graduate. They’ll tell you everything you need to know.
rFlyingTower@reddit
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Hey guys 1900 TT 250 multi pilot over here. As the title states, I’ll start my first type rating training in 2 weeks to fly the Learjet 31A. Any tips?
Thanks!
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