Quick Fix: Hyundai Has Announced the Solution for the 2026 Palisade’s Rear-Seat Recall
Posted by Spidermankarttour@reddit | cars | View on Reddit | 51 comments
Ponie-Stark@reddit
Changed to press and hold operation of the button. Isn’t it a manual folding seats better, safer, faster? I feel bad for people who bought this car and thought they’re getting a luxury auto folding feature.
Ziakel@reddit
This applies to the higher trims. I’d preferred manual seats in my 26 calligraphy. Less things to break. Less thing to kill a child.
tiagojpg@reddit
Sometimes I wish I had Electric seats with memory settings for me and the wife, but then I remember my friend on his E46 and it breaking all the time. He ended up having to adjust it every time but slooooowly.
Plus, my wife and I basically have the same driving position, I just feel like she’d adjust it more to her liking - once she starts to drive more…
Ziakel@reddit
Drivers memory setting and powered seats are def convenient.
Rear 2nd and 3rd row powered seats we can do without.
trackdaybruh@reddit
I never liked the electric folding seats, they take forever. Especially in a two door coupe where I’m just standing there waiting for the seat to move so I can sit in the back lmao
mada447@reddit
What two door coupe has electronic folding rear seats?
uberdosage@reddit
Its electronic front seats to get access to the back. My c class coupe would spend FORVER just slowly brrrrrrrr moving forward
MrReadilyUnready@reddit
It's an OTA update to the existing firmware.
gluten_heimer@reddit
Personally I have never once wished my rear seats folded down electronically. If I’m loading something big into the back, manual seats are faster.
an_actual_lawyer@reddit
Electric is great if you’re carrying a kid and bike trying to operate the seats.
The real problem is the failure to install simple safety mechanisms. It was as easy as incident a plastic tear that fails at x resistance.
dqrules11@reddit
In reality auto folding are worse than manual. Takes much longer than the quick release versions that just fall.
Small_Ad_4808@reddit
Honestly feels like a classic case of overengineering. A simple manual system might not be flashy, but it’s more predictable and less likely to fail in edge cases like this. Sometimes “basic” is actually better engineering.
techtimee@reddit
Utterly bonkers that you can such a massive and experienced vehicle manufacturer yet do something like this. Wasn't it JEEP who had an issue with a parking brake or something too with their rotary shifter, and ended up with that Star Trek actor being killed?
People are nuts. Truly. This is why I appreciate modern Ford for all their recalls.
Stomasz@reddit
It was Jeep, but it was that the shifter was self centering, so after selecting a gear or park it always went back to the middle position and if you didn’t look down to see what the indicator light showed you could think your in park when you aren’t.
RequirementLeading12@reddit
Hilarious how fast Hyundai and Kia ruined all the goodwill they had been building up in recent years lol
peaked-at-7@reddit
I still don't understand how or why the seat folds with enough force to harm, let alone kill, a child in the first place.
darti_me@reddit
There's likely a design failure/oversight on the gearbox. The gearbox should either physically fail when encountering an unusual resistance (person) AND sent a signal (either electric or mechanical signal) to cut power to the motor.
metengrinwi@reddit
Same. I thought the button usually just released a catch and the seat moved by a spring force?
mymomisyourfather@reddit
nope, its electric and quite forceful at that. There are videos from car reviewers that show it, its basically a mini hydraulic press in action
metengrinwi@reddit
I guess I’m just saying what I’ve seen on GM cars, etc. I guess the difference must be you have to use your arm (horrors!!) to raise the seat in the spring type of mechanism. The motor type will raise and lower it, so the person never needs to engage their bicep.
Major-Ant4600@reddit
From the article:
mada447@reddit
Lmao the software download should be available regardless if you have the subscription or not.
MangoAtrocity@reddit
A load cell in the seat seems like such a cheap feature. I can’t imagine skipping it. Occupancy sensors feel like a gimme
Ziakel@reddit
mymomisyourfather@reddit
That seems like proper fix, but its baffling to me that this was not part of the original software package.
Abuse testing is a real thing, and this should 100% have been caught before production.
watduhdamhell@reddit
I mean I don't know if I would call it a proper fix.
A proper fix would be fitting motors with mechanical torque limiters or torque limit switches on the motor that, upon activation, cause the seat to go backwards (as it does in all of my X5 seats, for example).
This is a software fix that removed automatic functionality as a bandaid for deciding to go with cheaper motors. Not a proper fix at all, just a band aid imo.
mymomisyourfather@reddit
In the above quote it says that the logic is changed to detect something in the seat and stop the tilting. That to me seems like a proper solution.
Most, if not all, functions are software driven nowadays and that is not necessarily bad. Your steering is software driven, the complete engine only runs because of software, same for the gearbox. And there's no need for mechanical torque limiters if a motor current can be read out and acted upon.
watduhdamhell@reddit
It's literally my job to use software to program industrial machinery. So I think you're confused and preaching to the choir here.
How do you think the software detects a person in the seat? Magic? What I said was interlocking button functionality to the switch is not a solution- that a limit switch is the only way you're going to tell the software the motor is loading up and to back up. That or a amp/overload sensor.
I missed that they indeed make it stop if a person is present now. Not sure how though.
owleaf@reddit
“But you’re just paying an extra $50k for the BMW badge” they say. Lol
costafilh0@reddit
Great cars. If your kids don't die, they are great!
opeth_close@reddit
You need their dumb subscription to do the OTA update lol. Clown auto maker
Morbidly_Off_Piste@reddit
Quick Fix: Dump it at Carvana and buy a Toyota or Lexus.
If they overlooked something this obvious, what other, even more deadly, engineering mistakes have come from Hyundai and Kia?
GadgetChachajii@reddit
Quick fix” is the most reassuring and slightly terrifying phrase when it comes to car recalls.
DoGooderMcDoogles@reddit
Has anyone tested other brands? I feel like other 3 row vehicles suffer from the same issue.
hehechibby@reddit
Toyota GH/Lexus TX seems to stop when it senses something and returns back up.
someone even tested it with a pillow and it stopped
yanman@reddit
Just being pedantic, but only the Lexus has the electric folding seats. The GH seats are manual.
Alive_Internet@reddit
My understanding is that the Hyundai/Kia version is different in that it doesn’t have a sensor to stop the seats if someone is sitting there. I can’t imagine this happening with an American brand given the strict safety regulations in the US.
Hnry_Dvd_Thr_Awy@reddit
You lack imagination.
DoGooderMcDoogles@reddit
I had a Chrysler Pacifica and was able to crush unopened cans of sodas in the seat.
Ziakel@reddit
Check out u/euvnairb comment on this same thread lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/s/R6nrZaypeG
euvnairb@reddit
My cousins and I rented a Jeep Wagoneer for a long road trip. Me not being familiar with the car, I decided to press a few buttons to see what they did and try to access the third row. One of the buttons caused the third row to fold, but unfortunately my cousin was already sitting in of the spots and the seats started to fold in on him. I tried pressing the buttons again to get it to stop, but nothing I pressed worked, so my cousin in a panic had to clear the seats before they completely folded in on him. Super terrible, unintuitive design. It’s something we laughed about at the time, but I would never put children in that car.
lostboyz@reddit
It should have over-current detection that acts as obstacle detection, hard to say what exactly happened there. Regardless, I guarantee you every OEM is reviewing their 3rd row strategies and I wouldn't be surprised if others release OTAs or even recalls to make improvements.
TheDirtDude117@reddit
Remember Hyundai is killing it! As long as IT was a child...
eggdropk@reddit
It’s almost as if they performed zero real-world testing. Too busy coming up with another mid-mid-cycle redesign, I guess.
CorrectCombination11@reddit
Go fast and break things. Have to compete in order to dominate.
SouthLoop_Sunday@reddit
Break things, i.e., break children.
SnowDucks1985@reddit
Really unfortunate for the Telluride owners
True_Go_Blue@reddit
MY27 has barely hit the lot so not a huge volume impacted.
SnowDucks1985@reddit
I’m glad that is the case, in my mind I was just thinking about the existing owners who made affected under the recall.
I could imagine how freighting it would feel to not know whether your passengers were going to get crushed at any moment. And to still not have a permanent recall fix available. And that’s not even discussing other calls hitting the Telluride such as airbags, fire risks, power front seats, etc.
True_Go_Blue@reddit
Yea it’s made me second guess any trim that has the feature. There are other manufacturers probably double checking their implementation as well
Prize-Meat7508@reddit
Some seat folding schemes I've seen in the past in minivans and SUVs really are cumbersome as hell, so I can see how someone might think automating it is a good thing. I forget what vehicle it was (it was my gf's at the time), but I remember I had trouble getting it into place and pushing it flat, and I'm not a small guy.
All that said, if the mechanical aspects are designed well enough, it shouldn't need automation. The "fix" looks like it forces you to be there with eyes on the space. IOW, the same you would do if it were a manual fold.