ULPT request: people dumping waste around communal bins.
Posted by lavinialloyd@reddit | UnethicalLifeProTips | View on Reddit | 4 comments
basic summary, strangers as well as people in our apartment block are dumping waste / rubbish unbroken boxes etc around our communal bins.
the waste removal people then refuse to empty our bins and it builds up, leading to a fine from our management company to every flat. I resent having to pay fees for other people's shitty behaviour. it also means that I can barely ever put my own rubbish out and have had to ask family if I can use their bins.
multiple warnings get sent by management company, but people are shitty. one neighbour spent hours cleaning and breaking down boxes and put up a polite sign. it immediately got ripped in half.
key info
management company won't allow cameras (there's also no where to hide it or fix it to without it getting stolen day 1)
there's no option to have a key lock
a couple of my neighbours are nice and aren't doing it, so any advice can't make their lives miserable too
we live next to a garden area where shady people hang out. I know some of the mess is from them (they've literally shat in our garden before) but a lot of the rubbish is from fellow flat dwellers or neighbours/ fly tippers.
BillDauterive4@reddit
Don't pay the "fine" and talk to your neighbors about not paying it either. Trash is the rental company's problem, not yours. They can't prove you're the one littering so they have no grounds to charge you for the honor of not cleaning up someone else's mess.
Tweedldum@reddit
Have someone you know but doesn’t live there go around to every flat that uses the bins and offer a new trash service that has concierge and picks up the bags if you put them by your door. Tell them to leave the trash outside their door and then wait. Let them know the regular bins will be collected in the coming week or so. Maybe even print a flyer to make it believable about the property management switching services. See who’s piling it up and produces more than others. Take pictures. When nobody ever comes for the garbage watch the chaos ensue. Bonus points if the property management office is onsite and can get a whiff of it all in the halls. Even more bonus points if you manage to actually cancel their trash service so they have to figure out why they aren’t coming and rehire them.
They want to make problems for you, make it a bigger problem for them.
The property management company is responsible for maintaining the rubbish area if you have to pay for it as part of your rental agreement. Extra fees to everybody for specific tenants actions doesn’t sound legal.
You could threaten to sue civilly for fines that are being unfairly levied. Sometimes just the threat on a lawyers letterhead will make them reconsider.
There are ways for property management to deal with it like securing the bins in a shed that is locked and requires key fob entry. Anybody keying in can be looked up on the logs and any neighbor reporting the state of the bins being overloaded can help to pinpoint when it happened and who might be responsible. Additionally if they don’t have a large enough refuse disposal system it’s up to them to purchase more bins or a larger container to store it all.
Put pressure on the management. See if there’s anybody from the city or county that can pressure them with fines for poorly managed waste. If they are going to make you pay extra so should they.
Not being allowed cameras sounds wrong. If it’s on your property or in a public space then how is that not permissible? You could try putting out additional bins to help with the problem. Does your area allow trash burning? Might need to start doing that with your garbage, if allowed.
MeasurementBubbly350@reddit
My neighbor drops his thrash in front of my house all the time, but on the street, which is not mine. And he is a problematic criminal, just came to this sub to have some ideas.
Twitch-x@reddit
Move.
It will never end.