Not really. The point of the quote is that modern generations have no great challenge to rise up to the occasion to, that can give them purpose.
There's been some, but the book aged fine. Nothing we have ever faced in our lives has ever come close to winning WW1 or overcoming the Great Depression.
The Great Depression was 100000000x superior to the current situation of most 1st world nations. No matter what statistics tell you or how great "GDP" or how low the "Unemployment Rate" is - most people are thugging it out, slutting it up, or working multiple minimum wage jobs for peanuts.
There is no overcoming the current economy because it's intended to wipe people out by design.
You have a point with WW1 however, but even then, I'd rather be in that time period than this one for sure.
Which was made as a consequence of the Great Depression to make sure they didn't suffer as much in hard times. Look up some depression-era recipes; I'm sure you agree most folks on welfare have it better.
I'm not saying the economy is doing well, just that this isn't anything close to the great depression. This isn't even as bad as 2008 other than the inflation, tbh. Heck, I was paying over $4/gal back in 2006.
They were boiling their shoes to soften the leather so they could eat it. They were selling their children to buy food to feed their other children.... you dimwit.
Whining about a spiritual struggle/lack of purpose still hits like silly string coming from the last generation who could nearly universally afford to buy houses for themselves.
The GFC and COVID have absolutely been monumental struggles for anybody under 35 and even some older than that. Not just financially, but socially and romantically as well.
The fact that the economy was good was the POINT. The whole thesis of durden's philosophy is that at the height of civilization, life is without purpose. Nowadays, we're past the peak, so obviously the message doesnt ring the same way, but it still holds true.
There's a concept in psychology called Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. It's a way of explaining how and why people prioritize certain needs; most people generally don't/can't expend energy thinking about higher-order things like meaning or spirituality when they can't satisfy the essentials (like hunger, shelter, health, and safety).
In the 21st century, Western society has mostly done away with collective caretaking. All of those basic needs must be met with money, plain and simple.
Telling people to think about more than just money when they're struggling to pay their bills is just ignorant.
This seems like you only wanting to project your own struggles onto others and the film, instead of realizing everyone has different issues. Re watch the movie and it will point this out to you in the first five minutes. "You don't have pain. You wanna see real pain? Visit the support group for guys with testicular cancer. Now that's pain"
Abuse, purposelessness, divorce, addiction, mental disorder, loneliness, can attack you no matter how much money you have.
Life isn't a video game. There's nothing wrong with having a bunch of stuff in a place you enjoy, but there's a reason why most of us naturally look up to people with great accomplishments and generally have a distasteful view of people addicted to consuming or hoarding things.
In the Narrator's case, if you remember the movie, he was a sad loner with an addiction to ordering furniture, who couldn't even cry without faking his problems.
It's been a long time since I saw the movie, but it came across as being that so-called societal failings were basically just an excuse for him to go full caveman. Which, sure, you can make a movie about that, but it doesn't say anything about modern society, it's just a character study about an unpleasant man. A biography of a cunt.
It's kind of like in Pink Floyd's The Wall, taking the album as a whole, it's clear that it isn't actually anti-authority (which is the surface-level interpretation of "We don't need no education"), rather it's pointing out that most people who call themselves anti-authority are just falling for a different scam. Except with Fight Club, I really am not sure if the director wants me to think the main guy is just having a pathetic chimpout that life won't hand him meaning on a platter. That's how it looks to me, at least.
He's not necessarily going "full-caveman" for the sake of it. He's spending the entire movie trying to restart from 0, and "finally hit rock bottom". Because to him that's the best way to build from. He spends most of the movie still not accepting his true-self, and can't come to terms with his feelings and emotions until the famous plot twist at the end. He (spoilers) needs to be somebody else because he can't possibly imagine himself with this woman he detests, and doesn't even realize he still sees beauty in her despite his disgust towards all her damage and flaws.
The fighting ia from all the lost men in the movie trying to find purpose, because the urge to fight exists despite them no longer having something to fight for. Then they realize it makes them feel good and they hold no animosity to each other from the fights, they're getting out all that aggression.
The vandalism-cult side plot isn't something the author is telling you to do, but it's just the culmination of the characters' desire to mock society. The Narrator tries to stop everything he's put in motion, and realizes after he becomes his true self that he's capable of being fulfilled and happy, even after all these economic hubs collapse in front of him, and he's lost his horde of treasure.
Millennials and gen z are going through the same shit it's just that Gen X was the first ones to experience the capitalist bullshit Boomers brought on us
Gen X said the same thing. People get into a disappeared population at some point not being young enough to write articles about and not old enough to have population control
As a millennial I'm fine with being left alone. Just let me live my next 30 or 40 years in relative comfort the water wars start, the sun gets too hot to even move, AI takes over 90% of all work and a few nuclear bombs are dropped. Thanks xoxo
There were 4 movies that released in 1999 about how office life is the worst kind of hell. This was a different and specific moment in American history. Office Space, American Beauty and The Matrix were the other 3 btw.
Bro the whole story is stupid af. You see a drunk guy fighting all by himself against some invisible enemy and you say to yourself 'yees, that's what I need let's go over there and join him'? Oh and later 'okay so the guy is completely crazy, talking to himself, to his other personality, and the group is planning some terrorist attacks in the city. How wonderful!' I honestly don't get the hype over this absurdity.
His life wasn't fucked up because of his economic situation. It was because he was a lonely insomniac with an addiction to ordering furniture, who couldn't even express his emotions to others without faking his woes. He was a fake person until meeting Marla and Tyler
No. It is amazing by comparison. People only notice life is good in comparison to when life is bad.
Also, if people do not have something to struggle against, something that makes them say, "Once I overcome this, things will be good." They can only sit and realize that life is not very good and the they have to create a struggle for themselves even if that struggle is how to get back to a more basic struggle.
First rule of Fight Club: do not talk about Fight Club.
Second rule of Fight Club: the first time you come to Fight Club, you have to strip naked and get on your hands and knees so Brad Pitt can oil you up, and then you have to run from the other members who try to catch you like trying to catch a greased pig, and the person who catches you gets to fuck your asshole first, followed by every other member. Then Brad Pitt sucks the loads out of your ruined hole with his mouth and spits them into yours and you have to swallow like the little slut that you are
Third rule of Fight Club: no gays; this is a straight man’s club
Its honestly just a lot of alternating between the gayest stuff in the world and affirming that Fight Club is a straight man’s club.
For example, the fourteenth rule of Fight Club is that men must be free of disease, except for the third Thursday of every month where we have “bug catching night” and on those nights, it’s encouraged that the dirtiest of dirty boys come to have a good time.
But rule fifteen of Fight Club is that men are expected to be strong in their devotion to God, and follow in the footsteps of the Lord.
When you think about it, terrorists and revolutionaries coming from cushy comfortable but bland backgrounds is actually pretty common, Lenin was the son of a high ranking bureaucrat, Che Guevara was a medicine student from a wealthy family in his country and even Bin Laden was the son of a Saudi billionaire.
The movie doesn't show Tyler actions and belief as something good. Quite opposite. He creates terrorist organisation that has everything that he hates (with exception if IKEA furniture): It's irony.
Living an easy life is deceptively depressing. Once you have no challenged you get depressed and anxious because you can't be confident in your capability to survive.
In return you have to show up to a glass box five days a week and suppress who you are while simultaneously competing with everyone there endlessly. We expect you to be neatly dressed, compliant and maintain a veneer of dedication as you die inside. You won’t be paid at first and will be paid poorly for a period after that.
Quit coping. If it was as easy as NEETs like to pretend they’d be doing it. Pouring your life force into something extractive so you can pay for a shiny cage is less enjoyable than someone who only sees the privilege might imagine.
It is funni but having no financial strain doesn't necessarily mean having an easy life in other areas
The trick is to always be striving for something
Not for me at least, my wife and I are traveling regularly, have two houses now, have a couple cats, awesome PC setups, are fit and healthy, and loving life. Some people just have lower levels of happiness than others frfr
Being comfortable isnt enough. As someone who was relatively comfortable for a decent portion of my life, I had brutal depression, I think from ennui.
Just the same shit every day, nothing to do, nothing I cared about. Didn't realize what the issue was until I looked back. There's all kinds of media I think are about that feeling of pointlessness in life. At least it feels familiar to me.
we're in a darker age where people expect a worker to change his profession
Haha how nostalgic of you- 'worker' and 'professional' are millennial terms. Anybody coming of age now is expected to be an independent contractor in the gig economy and to be happy about it, damnit.
Because they don't actually work - they don't need to learn a new skill, they just blab about AI and hire people to do the actual work. And if they find something new to focus on, they simply hire new people to do the work.
Makes talking about "industry trends" and "Economic Shifts" extremely easy.
My experience of depression is lying in bed, jerking off too much, lowering my standards for personal hygiene, shortened attention span, reduced emotional impact (including from negative emotions, I had to pretend to be sad when my dog died because people would ask hard questions if I didn't react), and doing fuck all at uni/work. Speaking as someone on the edge of millenial/gen Z.
Whatever was happening in Fight Club looked more like actual schizophrenia than depression to me. Didn't like the movie in any case.
But the comfy office job was causing him pain. His job was catching insurance fraud, but in reality, it was more like denying people access to insurance. It was sociopathic by nature because if people had actual cause to insurance, his job was to deny it. He was agonizing over this fact, and how society has become twisted and warped.
Which is the current society we live in. Why does the current generation not have jobs? Why do the billionaires only want to hoard money and keep getting richer? Because everyone is morally bankrupt. The fact that he has a job of denying insurance claim has already shown how bad the current society is.
So in a sense, MC was fighting against capitalism, although extremely terrible execution. I need to specify that I do not think that he was doing it for a great cause, more because he was nihilistic and thought his life was meaningless.
I mean, Fight Club is a black comedy, really. The whole point is that Tyler is the narrators projection of what he wants to be. And what he wants to be is handsome and fucking the girl he wants to be with. He literally has to create an alter ego that he gets cucked by.
Its a story about how lonely and aimless young men can get suckered into believing false idols with simple ideologies and promises. They get to destroy but not create.
That's because back then the idea of living of what you like was a dream. Right now every dumbass can become a YouTuber, Twitch Streamer, Podcaster, TikTok Reeler, Only fans model etc....
Back then that type of job was soul crushing. Now even if you have a main job, you can do what you love as a side business and make a little money.
It's painful to me that working in an office is what some people dream of. We're meant for more than that, the guy is alone and goes to work every day in a dull office doing something he doesn't believe in, which is what depresses most Americans whether they know it or not.
Mental illness effects everyone from buisness and lawyers, to janitors and servers. They key is to treat everyone like equals. In the eyes of the club you are all the same. They inflict damage and chaos based on this principle, including people at the bottom not trying to better themselves.
“Cult classics” such as Fight Club were mostly consoomed on VHS well after the release. High schoolers do a lot of things they were not “allowed” to, but most parents let their high school aged kids watch R movies.
What I’m saying is my high school math competition team printed out shirts with a bar of pink soap on the front and some kid had cracked photoshop and made it say Math Club. Then on the back we wrote the eight rules of Math Club.
the reason gen z and millennials don't connect with the movie is because shortly after it's release all the problems the movie addressed were fixed. we as a society saw the film and became awoken ane then fixed everything.
These jobs aren't as rosy as this green text calls them out to be. Unless you are dealing with clients across different areas, and there is budget, you barely get to travel around. The OOP is definitely a freebie hogger
Fern-ando@reddit
The line of "we never suffer a war or economic crisis" aged extremely bad.
Mesarthim1349@reddit
Not really. The point of the quote is that modern generations have no great challenge to rise up to the occasion to, that can give them purpose.
There's been some, but the book aged fine. Nothing we have ever faced in our lives has ever come close to winning WW1 or overcoming the Great Depression.
NanoYohaneTSU@reddit
The Great Depression was 100000000x superior to the current situation of most 1st world nations. No matter what statistics tell you or how great "GDP" or how low the "Unemployment Rate" is - most people are thugging it out, slutting it up, or working multiple minimum wage jobs for peanuts.
There is no overcoming the current economy because it's intended to wipe people out by design.
You have a point with WW1 however, but even then, I'd rather be in that time period than this one for sure.
racinreaver@reddit
When was the last time you stood in a bread line?
NanoYohaneTSU@reddit
I never have as I am very fortunate. 33% of Americans are on welfare, however.
racinreaver@reddit
Which was made as a consequence of the Great Depression to make sure they didn't suffer as much in hard times. Look up some depression-era recipes; I'm sure you agree most folks on welfare have it better.
NanoYohaneTSU@reddit
You asked about breadlines.
We have 33% of Americans waiting in welfare lines and you think the economy is currently better.
That's not how it works.
If the economy was good then there would barely be any welfare at all.
racinreaver@reddit
I'm not saying the economy is doing well, just that this isn't anything close to the great depression. This isn't even as bad as 2008 other than the inflation, tbh. Heck, I was paying over $4/gal back in 2006.
thoughtbludgeon@reddit
They were boiling their shoes to soften the leather so they could eat it. They were selling their children to buy food to feed their other children.... you dimwit.
NanoYohaneTSU@reddit
And other things you can make up!
ChadPowers200_@reddit
>The Great Depression was 100000000x superior to the current situation
alright thats enough of the internet for me today. enjoy your super computer in your pocket and all you can eat chinese buffets big boy
headphase@reddit
Whining about a spiritual struggle/lack of purpose still hits like silly string coming from the last generation who could nearly universally afford to buy houses for themselves.
The GFC and COVID have absolutely been monumental struggles for anybody under 35 and even some older than that. Not just financially, but socially and romantically as well.
CornginaFlegemark@reddit
The fact that the economy was good was the POINT. The whole thesis of durden's philosophy is that at the height of civilization, life is without purpose. Nowadays, we're past the peak, so obviously the message doesnt ring the same way, but it still holds true.
Mesarthim1349@reddit
Are you not able to conceive of confronting personal problems in life other than financial problems?
headphase@reddit
There's a concept in psychology called Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. It's a way of explaining how and why people prioritize certain needs; most people generally don't/can't expend energy thinking about higher-order things like meaning or spirituality when they can't satisfy the essentials (like hunger, shelter, health, and safety).
In the 21st century, Western society has mostly done away with collective caretaking. All of those basic needs must be met with money, plain and simple.
Telling people to think about more than just money when they're struggling to pay their bills is just ignorant.
Mesarthim1349@reddit
This seems like you only wanting to project your own struggles onto others and the film, instead of realizing everyone has different issues. Re watch the movie and it will point this out to you in the first five minutes. "You don't have pain. You wanna see real pain? Visit the support group for guys with testicular cancer. Now that's pain"
Abuse, purposelessness, divorce, addiction, mental disorder, loneliness, can attack you no matter how much money you have.
PrrrromotionGiven1@reddit
Better to be an NPC in a comfy sim game than an NPC in a dystopian drama
Fight Club is shit
t. Gen Z by most definitions I've seen
Mesarthim1349@reddit
Life isn't a video game. There's nothing wrong with having a bunch of stuff in a place you enjoy, but there's a reason why most of us naturally look up to people with great accomplishments and generally have a distasteful view of people addicted to consuming or hoarding things.
In the Narrator's case, if you remember the movie, he was a sad loner with an addiction to ordering furniture, who couldn't even cry without faking his problems.
PrrrromotionGiven1@reddit
It's been a long time since I saw the movie, but it came across as being that so-called societal failings were basically just an excuse for him to go full caveman. Which, sure, you can make a movie about that, but it doesn't say anything about modern society, it's just a character study about an unpleasant man. A biography of a cunt.
It's kind of like in Pink Floyd's The Wall, taking the album as a whole, it's clear that it isn't actually anti-authority (which is the surface-level interpretation of "We don't need no education"), rather it's pointing out that most people who call themselves anti-authority are just falling for a different scam. Except with Fight Club, I really am not sure if the director wants me to think the main guy is just having a pathetic chimpout that life won't hand him meaning on a platter. That's how it looks to me, at least.
Mesarthim1349@reddit
He's not necessarily going "full-caveman" for the sake of it. He's spending the entire movie trying to restart from 0, and "finally hit rock bottom". Because to him that's the best way to build from. He spends most of the movie still not accepting his true-self, and can't come to terms with his feelings and emotions until the famous plot twist at the end. He (spoilers) needs to be somebody else because he can't possibly imagine himself with this woman he detests, and doesn't even realize he still sees beauty in her despite his disgust towards all her damage and flaws.
The fighting ia from all the lost men in the movie trying to find purpose, because the urge to fight exists despite them no longer having something to fight for. Then they realize it makes them feel good and they hold no animosity to each other from the fights, they're getting out all that aggression.
The vandalism-cult side plot isn't something the author is telling you to do, but it's just the culmination of the characters' desire to mock society. The Narrator tries to stop everything he's put in motion, and realizes after he becomes his true self that he's capable of being fulfilled and happy, even after all these economic hubs collapse in front of him, and he's lost his horde of treasure.
SeingaltUNo@reddit
Oh yea? Try sending a rocket into space in Factorio.
beingmemybrownpants@reddit
Millennials and gen z are going through the same shit it's just that Gen X was the first ones to experience the capitalist bullshit Boomers brought on us
Null_Error7@reddit
Half of Gen X are basically boomers
beingmemybrownpants@reddit
You are not wrong. 😑
ufailowell@reddit
Shit didn't Gen Z vote right wing?
the_baldest_monk@reddit
Nah they didn't, gen x are by far the most rightwing in any western country
Mean_Introduction543@reddit
Gen X remember things being better under Reagan. Not sure they realise Reagan is why things are worse now
Null_Error7@reddit
Not the same thing
thermitethrowaway@reddit
And half of Gen Z are basically Gen X therefore a quarter of Gen Z are basically Boomers.
Source: Mathematics
Null_Error7@reddit
Just like the rest of society you forgot about millennials
ufailowell@reddit
Gen X said the same thing. People get into a disappeared population at some point not being young enough to write articles about and not old enough to have population control
thermitethrowaway@reddit
I prefer to think of them as Internet GenX
jsm85@reddit
Hey fuck you. I vote
Shoddy_Pie6514@reddit
As a millennial I'm fine with being left alone. Just let me live my next 30 or 40 years in relative comfort the water wars start, the sun gets too hot to even move, AI takes over 90% of all work and a few nuclear bombs are dropped. Thanks xoxo
ThatWasMean_@reddit
There were 4 movies that released in 1999 about how office life is the worst kind of hell. This was a different and specific moment in American history. Office Space, American Beauty and The Matrix were the other 3 btw.
markymark886@reddit
Remember Tyler was cool and fighting is fun
Fr3dd03@reddit
Bro the whole story is stupid af. You see a drunk guy fighting all by himself against some invisible enemy and you say to yourself 'yees, that's what I need let's go over there and join him'? Oh and later 'okay so the guy is completely crazy, talking to himself, to his other personality, and the group is planning some terrorist attacks in the city. How wonderful!' I honestly don't get the hype over this absurdity.
Mesarthim1349@reddit
Another day, another Anon misses the message from a movie that tries its best to make the message as obvious as possible
Zermist@reddit
back then the economy was much better than today, so the writers that wrote the movie actually thought his situation was fucked up
Mesarthim1349@reddit
His life wasn't fucked up because of his economic situation. It was because he was a lonely insomniac with an addiction to ordering furniture, who couldn't even express his emotions to others without faking his woes. He was a fake person until meeting Marla and Tyler
Tacobreathkiller@reddit
No. It is amazing by comparison. People only notice life is good in comparison to when life is bad.
Also, if people do not have something to struggle against, something that makes them say, "Once I overcome this, things will be good." They can only sit and realize that life is not very good and the they have to create a struggle for themselves even if that struggle is how to get back to a more basic struggle.
LasyKuuga@reddit
Thats why I relate to Tyler instead. Because I am definetly as handsome and jackked as prime Brad Pitt
southern_boy@reddit
Implying current BP isn't prime? 🤔
Section8firearms@reddit
Prime Brad acted in movies. Current Brad just shows up.
fuckitsayit@reddit
Because they dont make movies anymore
blaqsupaman@reddit
When he shaves the dead rat off his face he still basically looks like he did 20 years ago.
white_equatorial@reddit
thr33beggars@reddit
First rule of Fight Club: do not talk about Fight Club.
Second rule of Fight Club: the first time you come to Fight Club, you have to strip naked and get on your hands and knees so Brad Pitt can oil you up, and then you have to run from the other members who try to catch you like trying to catch a greased pig, and the person who catches you gets to fuck your asshole first, followed by every other member. Then Brad Pitt sucks the loads out of your ruined hole with his mouth and spits them into yours and you have to swallow like the little slut that you are
Third rule of Fight Club: no gays; this is a straight man’s club
daddyDAUA@reddit
I'm absolutely throbbing to know the other 26 rules of fight club
thr33beggars@reddit
Its honestly just a lot of alternating between the gayest stuff in the world and affirming that Fight Club is a straight man’s club.
For example, the fourteenth rule of Fight Club is that men must be free of disease, except for the third Thursday of every month where we have “bug catching night” and on those nights, it’s encouraged that the dirtiest of dirty boys come to have a good time.
But rule fifteen of Fight Club is that men are expected to be strong in their devotion to God, and follow in the footsteps of the Lord.
blippie@reddit
Reading those rules posted, you could swap "Fight Club" to "Republican Party" and no one would raise a eyebrow.
Big-Cantaloupe-4746@reddit
VirtualPantsu@reddit
You should absolutely start making greentext posts on 4chan I see potential in you
daddyDAUA@reddit
Sold me with "...in you."
Pyrimo@reddit
Ah, I see Fight Club also plays 'Pin the Weasel'
HamBlamBlam@reddit
Really takes me back to summer camp
StormOfFatRichards@reddit
Fight Ranch really rocks
Matiwapo@reddit
Spunge14@reddit
or dude was just schizophrenic are you regarded
Brief-Luck-6254@reddit
When you think about it, terrorists and revolutionaries coming from cushy comfortable but bland backgrounds is actually pretty common, Lenin was the son of a high ranking bureaucrat, Che Guevara was a medicine student from a wealthy family in his country and even Bin Laden was the son of a Saudi billionaire.
theGaido@reddit
I beleive he hasn't seen this movie.
The movie doesn't show Tyler actions and belief as something good. Quite opposite. He creates terrorist organisation that has everything that he hates (with exception if IKEA furniture): It's irony.
I_deleted@reddit
A gay author’s satirical take on toxic masculinity has become a touchstone for edgelord incels everywhere.
THATS IRONY
Mean_Introduction543@reddit
Don’t forget American psycho.
A female directors take on a gay authors book which has become the other touchstone,
whirling_cynic@reddit
Way to completely miss the point of the movie.
Dear-Carrot-6369@reddit
Point of the movie was to show you that it isn’t gay to think Brad Pitt is sexy
iSailor@reddit
Living an easy life is deceptively depressing. Once you have no challenged you get depressed and anxious because you can't be confident in your capability to survive.
TheFieryMoth@reddit
I don't believe you. Wire me $3000 every month so I can see if it's true.
Homunkulus@reddit
In return you have to show up to a glass box five days a week and suppress who you are while simultaneously competing with everyone there endlessly. We expect you to be neatly dressed, compliant and maintain a veneer of dedication as you die inside. You won’t be paid at first and will be paid poorly for a period after that.
Quit coping. If it was as easy as NEETs like to pretend they’d be doing it. Pouring your life force into something extractive so you can pay for a shiny cage is less enjoyable than someone who only sees the privilege might imagine.
MinosML@reddit
It is funni but having no financial strain doesn't necessarily mean having an easy life in other areas The trick is to always be striving for something
The_Shittiest_Meme@reddit
maybe if you have no fucking hobbies
My_Nama_Jeff1@reddit
Not for me at least, my wife and I are traveling regularly, have two houses now, have a couple cats, awesome PC setups, are fit and healthy, and loving life. Some people just have lower levels of happiness than others frfr
Jay_T_Demi@reddit
How are you supposed to relate? I don't know, how do you feel about setting warehouses on fire using toilet paper?
Fight Club is very relatable right now.
cleverkid@reddit
This post is what happens when a person raised on superhero movies actually sees a decent film for once.
Coakis@reddit
Anon didn't live through the 90's. Things were so prosperous that yuppies started reconsidering the materialism of their existence.
If Anon watched Office Space he'd get a clearer picture of what it really meant.
hornwalker@reddit
It’s almost like the point of the film/book was that a nice house, money, and just mindless consumerism doesn’t create a meaningful life.
MechaWASP@reddit
Being comfortable isnt enough. As someone who was relatively comfortable for a decent portion of my life, I had brutal depression, I think from ennui.
Just the same shit every day, nothing to do, nothing I cared about. Didn't realize what the issue was until I looked back. There's all kinds of media I think are about that feeling of pointlessness in life. At least it feels familiar to me.
Baers89@reddit
I’ve felt this for a while. People complaining about office jobs and I’m like bro, you’re allowed to sit down.
samyruno@reddit
Wasn't his job to refuse medical insurance for poor people or something like that.
Pwc9Z@reddit
It's okay though, the comfy, well-paying office jobs are getting eliminated
Limp-Temperature1783@reddit
I mean, there is global crisis and possibly famine on the horizon, so office workers aka useless freeloaders aren't exactly sensible to keep.
oni_no_onii-chan@reddit
those jobs were the last remnants of fordist production. we can't understand why people didn't like them anymore because we passed that age.
we're in a darker age where people expect a worker to change his profession in the same speed an investor shifts his money to different sectors.
Sure_Locksmith_2027@reddit
Are you familiar with Dodge v Ford by chance?
I think it was the start of the end.
headphase@reddit
Haha how nostalgic of you- 'worker' and 'professional' are millennial terms. Anybody coming of age now is expected to be an independent contractor in the gig economy and to be happy about it, damnit.
ufailowell@reddit
I'm a young millennial and I didn't get out of "Independent" contractor hell until year 5 or something as an engineer.
Lazarous86@reddit
I'm stealing that last line. That's a prefect explanation of how disconnected some of these podcast tech bros are on this subject.
Objective-Lawyer5428@reddit
Because they don't actually work - they don't need to learn a new skill, they just blab about AI and hire people to do the actual work. And if they find something new to focus on, they simply hire new people to do the work.
Makes talking about "industry trends" and "Economic Shifts" extremely easy.
SoupaMayo@reddit
Millennials and Gen Z also know what depression is, wtf
PrrrromotionGiven1@reddit
My experience of depression is lying in bed, jerking off too much, lowering my standards for personal hygiene, shortened attention span, reduced emotional impact (including from negative emotions, I had to pretend to be sad when my dog died because people would ask hard questions if I didn't react), and doing fuck all at uni/work. Speaking as someone on the edge of millenial/gen Z.
Whatever was happening in Fight Club looked more like actual schizophrenia than depression to me. Didn't like the movie in any case.
Knightmare_CCI@reddit
I feel... startlingly called out by that list. And probably need to do quite a bit of self reflection.
Yeseylon@reddit
I mean, if you finish it you learn it's literally >!multiple personalities!<
majoshi@reddit
oofieoofty@reddit
It bothers me that he is so pressed over a woman who is clearly toxic
Yeseylon@reddit
I can fix her.
(Jokes aside, I'm pretty sure she's less toxic and more broken.)
DarkGamer@reddit
Money != meaning
Neix19365@reddit
But the comfy office job was causing him pain. His job was catching insurance fraud, but in reality, it was more like denying people access to insurance. It was sociopathic by nature because if people had actual cause to insurance, his job was to deny it. He was agonizing over this fact, and how society has become twisted and warped.
Which is the current society we live in. Why does the current generation not have jobs? Why do the billionaires only want to hoard money and keep getting richer? Because everyone is morally bankrupt. The fact that he has a job of denying insurance claim has already shown how bad the current society is.
So in a sense, MC was fighting against capitalism, although extremely terrible execution. I need to specify that I do not think that he was doing it for a great cause, more because he was nihilistic and thought his life was meaningless.
GunstarGreen@reddit
I mean, Fight Club is a black comedy, really. The whole point is that Tyler is the narrators projection of what he wants to be. And what he wants to be is handsome and fucking the girl he wants to be with. He literally has to create an alter ego that he gets cucked by.
Its a story about how lonely and aimless young men can get suckered into believing false idols with simple ideologies and promises. They get to destroy but not create.
Wiinterfang@reddit
That's because back then the idea of living of what you like was a dream. Right now every dumbass can become a YouTuber, Twitch Streamer, Podcaster, TikTok Reeler, Only fans model etc....
Back then that type of job was soul crushing. Now even if you have a main job, you can do what you love as a side business and make a little money.
tesseracts@reddit
It shouldn’t be this hard to understand movies about money not always making people happy.
Super_Raccoon_2890@reddit
It's painful to me that working in an office is what some people dream of. We're meant for more than that, the guy is alone and goes to work every day in a dull office doing something he doesn't believe in, which is what depresses most Americans whether they know it or not.
Coolcricri3@reddit
Fake: reality as we know it Gay: need I say more?
Zestymonserellastick@reddit
Mental illness effects everyone from buisness and lawyers, to janitors and servers. They key is to treat everyone like equals. In the eyes of the club you are all the same. They inflict damage and chaos based on this principle, including people at the bottom not trying to better themselves.
TectonicTechnomancer@reddit
Alas, my sovereign mind is again under attack by this psychological operation.
drtij_dzienz@reddit
This movie was mostly consoomed by elder millennials I thought
Bloodhoven_aka_Loner@reddit
"elder millenials" were barely old enough to be allowed to watch the movie when it released, lmao
drtij_dzienz@reddit
“Cult classics” such as Fight Club were mostly consoomed on VHS well after the release. High schoolers do a lot of things they were not “allowed” to, but most parents let their high school aged kids watch R movies.
What I’m saying is my high school math competition team printed out shirts with a bar of pink soap on the front and some kid had cracked photoshop and made it say Math Club. Then on the back we wrote the eight rules of Math Club.
ktsb@reddit
the reason gen z and millennials don't connect with the movie is because shortly after it's release all the problems the movie addressed were fixed. we as a society saw the film and became awoken ane then fixed everything.
MarthUTilt@reddit
Why would you need to sympathize with a main character to enjoy a story?
OnionTaster@reddit
In current ages you work shitty job and the fun part is coming to the place you live (your parents house) and watching youtube
Boris7939@reddit
A well paying office job is definitely not going to stop anyone from getting depressed.
H78U43@reddit
Based and Corpo brainwashed
Bloodhoven_aka_Loner@reddit
Anon either deliberatel misses the point or is plain ret4rded.
Kallonistic@reddit
Yea I never understood Gen X's hatred for cushy office jobs
Danjou667@reddit
We cant talk about it.
white_equatorial@reddit
Gen Z ers want the free shit man. They don't want the hands on work.
WoolooOfWallStreet@reddit
Gen Z ers DO want the work, but these jobs are impossible to get into now
white_equatorial@reddit
These jobs aren't as rosy as this green text calls them out to be. Unless you are dealing with clients across different areas, and there is budget, you barely get to travel around. The OOP is definitely a freebie hogger
floydianvergil@reddit
You're a freebie slobber gobber logger
white_equatorial@reddit
I'm the chief logger in Harambestan.
googlin@reddit
Xennial here, fuck you, the world (and especially the US currently) is a hearty bowl of diarrhea stew (now with chunks!)
white_equatorial@reddit
Will that strengthen my gut microbiome?
harshdeep_ent@reddit