Is there a way to get ATIS for non D-ATIS airports?
Posted by Jayhickey@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 34 comments
I fly out of a smaller Class D that doesn't have D-ATIS. I'd love to check ATIS before driving to the airport, but my only options are calling the phone line or waiting until I'm in radio range.
I know I can get the weather from METAR, but it's delayed and I'm also after the operational stuff: which runway they're using, approaches in use, any NOTAMs or remarks. That's the part I can't get without calling or tuning in.
ForeFlight and the ATIS App only cover major airports. Is there anything out there that covers the smaller fields? Or do we all just call the number?
dylanm312@reddit
Nope. Phone or radio are your only options for non D-ATIS airports.
Maybe you could try the airport website lol, but that wouldn’t be an official source I don’t think
randombrain@reddit
At least at my airport, radio is the only option. The phone number is for the ASOS and the ASOS only, not for the voice recording we make of the weather observation plus all the other information that makes an ATIS what it is. We don't have a phone number that you can call and listen to a recording of our voice.
Do other airports have that?
CharlieFoxtrot000@reddit
Yes, many do. A cursory, non-complete check of airports in the western US: LAX, SAN, LAS, RNO, SLC, SMF, OAK, SJC, FAT, BFL, SNA, PDX, EUG, RDM, GEG, SEA, DEN, COS, MSO, BZN, JAC, PIH, IDA, ABQ, FFZ, and RYN all have phone numbers for an ATIS listed in the A/FD. In fact, more of the airports that I checked had one than those that did not, and several that did not have one for the ATIS did have one for the AWOS/ASOS like yours.
randombrain@reddit
For the most part those airports all have D-ATIS which means you don't need to call a number, the D-ATIS is already available long-line. I'm not talking about them.
I only see an ASOS number for FAT, no ATIS number. BFL has an ATIS number listed but when I called I got the "number has been disconnected."
EUG has a human voice recording, though, so there's the concept proven! Thank you!
dylanm312@reddit
I fly out of RHV which has the ATIS recording available via phone. The field actually does not have an AWOS/ASOS, so after hours all you hear is “Reid Hillview tower suspended operations at 2200 local. The common traffic advisory frequency and pilot controlled lighting are available on 119.8. Reid Hillview tower will resume operations at 0700 local.”
FBoondoggle@reddit
My home drome CCR has phone atis. I almost always use it in preference to the radio with engine running on departure.
prex10@reddit
https://atis.info
I guess no one knows the FAA has a website...
Wedge_Donovan@reddit
OP is asking about smaller airports that don't have D-ATIS
prex10@reddit
I read and continue to read their comment as they don't have the ability to read D ATIS via text
ltcterry@reddit
“Text” in this case I think is “written on a screen” rather than “text message.”
Think ForeFlight not Apple Message.
Perfect_Insurance_26@reddit
What's wrong with calling the station?
otterbarks@reddit
Nope, you just call the number.
The only exception I know of is KTRK. They installed the D-ATIS equipment, but the FAA won't let the connect it to the D-ATIS system... but you can still get it from their website.
Outside of that, Foreflight has been rolling out a proprietary thing called "T-ATIS" at some smaller airports, where they have a radio receiver nearby to pick up the ATIS feed, then have AI try to transcribe it. It makes plenty of errors and shouldn't be trusted - but you can at least play the original audio clip.
BagOfMoneyNoChange@reddit
ATIS INFORMATION MANCY. ACCLIMATED WEATHER OBFUSCATION ZERO ONE FIVE ZERO HULU. WINDS ZERO FORTY AT NINETY, OVERBLAST THIRTEEN MILES, VISIBILITY 500 IN FUCK YOU, ALTERNATOR THREE ZERO ONE ZERO
djd565@reddit
Mancy? You of all people.
dodexahedron@reddit
Be careful! Jesus, the helium!
Stevethepinkeagle@reddit
Why would the FAA not certify this??
BagOfMoneyNoChange@reddit
Look how they massacred my boy!
Wedge_Donovan@reddit
Does LiveATC.net have a feed for your airport?
RaiseTheDed@reddit
Nope. That's what a D-ATIS allows: digital format ATIS that can be transmitted textually.
Swimming_Way_7372@reddit
T -ATIS on Foreflight has now allowed non D-ATIS airports to transmit the info via audio and textually. Hopefully it makes its way to more and more airports.
Frankenplane@reddit
and hopefully without any more AI slops. The ones we heard about a couple weeks ago were pretty bad from a safety perspective.
RequirementLive1755@reddit
I've been double checking them against what is actually reporting on the frequency and it's been pretty spot on.
Couple small errors, but nothing near safety related. Still would definitely take it with a grain of salt.
f1racer328@reddit
What airports have that?
travbert@reddit
KSTC doesn't advertise D-ATIS on their approach charts but if you request it in the FMGC it appears they do actually have it. Weird edge case, I'm sure, as they only have 1 gate. Idk why they'd need D-ATIS but I'm glad they have it!
bmichaelhughes@reddit
Looks like your question has been answered, but a tip I often use is texting FLTSVC (358-782). It will send you the nearest available METAR for your requested field. It would be great if they could add ATIS capabilities.
Fancy_o_lucas@reddit
Didn’t ForeFlight start doing ATIS transcriptions in the app? Other than that, no.
Swimming_Way_7372@reddit
Yes. Some airports are showing T-ATIS now and it has changed the game IMO.
PlasticDiscussion590@reddit
There is no reason for this to be down voted.
It does exist and works well more than it doesn’t. But you’ll need cell signal or Starlink to get it.
Swimming_Way_7372@reddit
Unfortunately there is a perfectly good reason for it to be downvoted, and that reason is because r/flying. Its expected around here.
Rainebowraine123@reddit
Most airports on LiveATC have an ATIS feed
Rainebowraine123@reddit
The METAR is updated just as often as the ATIS...
randombrain@reddit
The ATIS can change as many times as it needs to in on hour while the METAR remains constant. Change of runway in use, change of approach in use, airport closure, new NOTAM, removed NOTAM, "clearance delivery is open," "clearance delivery is closed," whatever.
The time mentioned in the ATIS is the time of the weather observation, so all of those different intra-hour ATISes will have the same time (because the WX observation didn't change). The only distinguished will be a new code letter for each one.
M3blockchain@reddit
LiveATC.net works for some class d
rFlyingTower@reddit
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I fly out of a smaller Class D that doesn't have D-ATIS. I'd love to check ATIS before driving to the airport, but my only options are calling the phone line or waiting until I'm in radio range.
I know I can get the weather from METAR, but it's delayed and I'm also after the operational stuff: which runway they're using, approaches in use, any NOTAMs or remarks. That's the part I can't get without calling or tuning in.
ForeFlight and the ATIS App only cover major airports. Is there anything out there that covers the smaller fields? Or do we all just call the number?
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