Red Hat Relocates its Chinese engineering team to India
Posted by TheTwelveYearOld@reddit | linux | View on Reddit | 26 comments
Posted by TheTwelveYearOld@reddit | linux | View on Reddit | 26 comments
natermer@reddit
The parent article from The Register is quite a bit more informative. Chances are reasonably high that it is political. It mentions how Microsoft was forced to leave China after it was realized that some of the Azure engineers on projects for the USA Department of Defense where from China.
One of the reasons Redhat is Redhat is because they put extra work into getting certifications and approvals so that you can use Linux in sensitive environments. It isn't just a issue of software configuration, but they actually have to pay for the certifications and go through and get approvals. Which means you can use them in a lot of places were you can't just use something like Debian.
I don't know a lot of how this works, but it seems that Redhat and Redhat Openshift has been approved for use in various USA "Gov Clouds" in AWS and Azure. And, I am guessing, that the USA Federal government is getting a bit more paranoid about people working on government infrastructure that happen to be working from inside China.
s0ul_invictus@reddit
Moving the team to India doesn't increase security at all..
einar77@reddit
To be fair, "unauthorized flows of information" from the USA to China have been a thing for the past decade (I remember a particularly egregious scandal in some university).
blackcain@reddit
I wonder where that will leave companies like Intel. Who has a lot of groups in China.
Microsoft and others will need to start thinking about what Europe is going to do because that's where the real danger is.
Geo-politics has started changing how countries perceive, US tech companies.
einar77@reddit
Also the opposite is true. But even if there are tensions, I don't think it's even remotely close to what the Chinese government does. Distrust is one thing, but in the Chinese case, it's far beyond that.
blackcain@reddit
You should see how Peter Thiel helped bring about Brexit through Palantir.
einar77@reddit
That's nowhere close to what the CCP does, sorry. (Assuming bona fide that it is true) Not even the same league.
But we're getting OT.
Natural_Night9957@reddit
Nah, you're just showing your bias. The current campaign in the ME shows how much EVIL the US is.
einar77@reddit
Sorry, not dealing with this.
Natural_Night9957@reddit
Okay, go away. From the ME as well.
natermer@reddit
Probably depends on corporate structure. If Intel can demonstrate that they are unrelated subsidiaries then they can probable keep them on.
The whole situation is very unfortunate. Company I worked at lost some of their best employees because of sanctions in Ukrainian wars. It isn't like they had any choice in the matter, so it sucks for everybody.
blackcain@reddit
Yep.. I have direct experience with that situation too.
FortuneIIIPick@reddit
> Geo-politics has started changing how countries perceive, US tech companies.
Only for those who are severely left leaning. China was never trusted in the first place.
blackcain@reddit
Even China depends on U.S. firms for tech.
TheTwelveYearOld@reddit (OP)
I tried posting with The Register article but the subreddit blocks it.
natermer@reddit
For some reason lots of people think that "The Register" is unreliable because they are snarky.
I don't understand it because out of "Tech Journalism" out there The Register is one of those places that are still worth half a damn. The vast majority out there is pure hot garbage and that was BEFORE they could use LLMs to write most of their content.
Rexeclik@reddit
Yeah... sadly, as long as companies keep chasing "eternal positive revenue", this won't stop.
They just keep cutting... fewer people, lower salaries, worse quality, hoping automation (AI today) fills the gap. There are limits of that approach, at some point they'll hit those limits, but even then, I am not convinced they'll actually learn from it.
Linuksoid@reddit
Relocating to India? That's bad news bears for code quality....
No_Insurance_6436@reddit
Every company is doing it now.
structured_duck@reddit
They are going from worse to the worst!
80kman@reddit
Well IBM is moving most of its jobs to India, so Redhat doing that isn't a surprise.
AlexGubia@reddit
We are dammed then. When you change to indian devs you know a disaster is coming.
BenL90@reddit
Well... lay off happen always, so never trust your employeer, always have a backup plan, always network, keep yourself up to date in the Industries, there are no stability... even your boss convince you, always be convinced in yourself, the future is in your own hand!
Never EVER hand it over!
Kevin_Kofler@reddit
"Relocates" as in "fires everyone in China and forces their team in India to do the fired people's work in addition to the one the team was already doing", it seems.
BashfulMelon@reddit
Holy shit, I think I remember this website. Let's see what they were posting 20 years ago...
Wow, this Slackware user seems troubled. Some things never change.
Check out those comments.
Pretty sure I saw this person posting in the linux_gaming subreddit yesterday.
bengringo2@reddit
I didn’t realize Red Hat had a Chinese team. I just figured Kylin there wouldn’t be much room for others.