Is an internal hard drive actually bad?
Posted by chara736278@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 20 comments
I don’t know if I should get a 256gb mvme for windows and just use the hard drive for my games or just buy a 1tb mvme?
FReeDuMB_or_DEATH@reddit
I have that exact set up with a HDD for games and I have no issues. There may be load times in the new Resident Evil but its not bad at all imo.
Primus_is_OK_I_guess@reddit
If you're playing any modern games, they will not function well on an HDD.
FReeDuMB_or_DEATH@reddit
This is very game dependent.
postsshortcomments@reddit
I use the 10-15GB rule. If the install size is under 10-15GB, it's perfectly fine on an HDD. Optimal? No, but definitely workable and you'll find most installs - especially indies - fall into that range.
10GB is about 10,240 MB. Realistically, only a fraction of that will load at any time anyways. With a 160MB read speed (7200 RPM drive), the max read speed for 10,240 MB is 64 seconds. Even if that adds a minute to the initial startup, it's probably all loaded to RAM anyways. If it's a 5GB load (let's say the game is divided into 2 equal zones), is about 32 seconds... and that often is pre-initialized or major assets like player models are one-time loads on startup.
There's really no reason to put any 1GB or less installs on an NVMe. Unless 6.4 seconds bothers you.
Given that 16GB of RAM is fairly standard, it's highly unlikely for 16GB to fetch at any given time. Things that load have to go somewhere and that's typically RAM or VRAM.
I never really thought about the math and threw an old HDD with some files I wanted access to into my build when it had only a 500GB SSD. I honestly thought it'd be fairly useless for gaming, but then I remembered that I used to install CS:GO to my HDD because there's little need to spawn into warmup rounds quicker.
Some 10GB games will be flawless. Some with mini-map teleportation will be a huge inconvenience. I remember Palia seemed a bit inconvenient especially 'cause it made friends wait. But it was mostly tolerable.
Pale_Height_1251@reddit
Just get 1TB SSD. I have a spinning disk in my PC as well as the SSD and it's uselessly slow.
Nobody should be getting spinning disks these days except for long term archival storage.
Yowomboo@reddit
Buy the biggest nvme ssd you can afford then buy a hdd for storage if you need it.
Pajer0king@reddit
Depends. If you are not " elitist", having an ssd for OS is enough. But there might be some games ( i noticed this on tarkov) where an ssd benefits the game. If you play single player games, you should be fine with an HDD.
Noxious89123@reddit
SSDs; Fast, silence, no wires. Expensive, limited maximum capacity options. (relatively speaking).
HDDs; Slow, noisy, wires. Cheap, huge maximum capacity options.
Many cases these days, being built to look good, have somewhat limited options for mounting 3.5" HDDs.
FrequentWay@reddit
Depends on the games.
Single player games with simple graphics - no problem
Single player games with lots of loading screens - SSD better off to minimize loading screens.
Complex multiplayer games with no loading screens - SSD recommended.
High end triple AAA games will definitely specify needing a NVME SSD.
Examples: WOW midnight, Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth,
Active_Literature539@reddit
Define “bad”. They are perfect for long term storage. They are sub-optimal for modern games, since they are much slower than SSDs, which are much slower than m.2s.
bandita07@reddit
No, it is fine. It is better internal. Store only videos photos and backups and put the daily used stufv on an ssd
Naerven@reddit
It's still just storage. It's also incredibly slow storage by modern standards. It is noticeable when loading old games. It can cause modern games to stutter.
lorenzoelmagnifico@reddit
Running modern games on spinning hard drives is not practical anymore. The game will stutter and be unplayable.
4lbertGG@reddit
maybe for old games that are 15gb or less HDDs are ok but for modern games you need a SSD
SignalButterscotch73@reddit
You want at least 500Gb for a modern os boot drive and a SATA SSD for games from the last decade.
HDDs are still the best choice for large capacity storage but not for running any kind of software that benefits from speed like games.
Elitefuture@reddit
I only use a harddrive for bulk storage, backup files, etc. I do not use it for anything I'm actively using. Games love to load things while you're playing, a harddrive would cause some games to stutter.
akshaysura@reddit
Once you taste the speed of SSD you cant go back. It will reduce your boot time to be <30 seconds.
and any read write operation(loading assets, copying) would be 3-5 times faster.
I will always recommend to go for a SSD. Also I would prefer to separate the boot drive and data drives so:
512GB SSD for OS, Software and Games
1TB HDD for data
Since now days many games are over 50-100GB I would recommend to have atleast 512 GB storage. Let us know what games you gonna play
also please note if it is not urgent, might as well wait as SSD prices are so fucking crazy at the moment. I have a 2TB SSD which I bought in 2024 Dec and today it's prices is almost triple.
cigr@reddit
Hard drives now are good for storage of things like music, photos, etc. At least use an SSD for games. My system has all three, NVME for the OS, an SSD for games and a larger hard drive for other storage.
Top-Handle4786@reddit
Depends on what you want to use it for.
Storage of important files? Nope, perfect fine.
Anything, literally ANYTHING else? Yea, lmao. Flash storage will blow a mechanical drive out of the water in terms of I/O and latency.
puchi2701@reddit
512gb ssd atleast the hdd is good for old games or things like that, movies, images