GA Pre-Flight Planning
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How do you actually make your go/no-go decision before a flight?
I've been flying GA (as well as military) for a while and noticed almost everyone does it differently - some have a system, most just 'feel it out'.
Curious what the community actually does. Is there a structured process you follow, or is it mostly experience and gut?
Mundane-Reality-7770@reddit
Personal minimums contract. Takes out the guesswork.
At least that works for local to short xc
Mountain-Captain-396@reddit
What about when it is time to expand your minimums?
Mundane-Reality-7770@reddit
New contract. Revisit every checkride.
poser765@reddit
Hey so a piggy back question…
Where are people getting their weather briefings these days? Are most still using wx-brief, duats (is that even still a thing, or something else?
flyghu@reddit
A $25/yr subscription to Windy is money well spent. It's not the only weather I check, but it's the one I use most often. There are great layers to it and you can get skew-t charts in the app.
poser765@reddit
Cool. I’ll check it out. Thanks.
CaptMcMooney@reddit
weather channel first for big picture then 1800wxbrief.com
check it again on the efb before takeoff if anything is questionable. will call if things are a bit difficult. honestly, at this point if i feel i have to call, i'm 90% not going
RyzOnReddit@reddit
ForeFlight + Windy and/or Gramet generally.
TxAggieMike@reddit
DUATS does not exist anymore.
Many will go to 1800WXBRIEF.com.
Some will call the human briefer.
Many will do the briefing through their EFB such as ForeFlight.
poser765@reddit
Perfect. Thanks.
West_Read_8698@reddit
“If this flight is seen on paper/reviewed for an accident, am I going to be seen as liable?”
nolaflygirl@reddit
The Ouija Board.
CluelessPilot1971@reddit
I used a D&D dice set.
-burnr-@reddit
Magic 8 Ball people rise up!!!
nolaflygirl@reddit
LOVE the Magic 8 Ball!
jeevacation_gmail@reddit
Chance cube gang checking in.
CaptMcMooney@reddit
follow the same mental steps every flight
pave/imsafe
weather, are we okay, within my minimums.
flight plan, notams, etc...
aircraft,
wallet, do i really want to pay for this trip
the wallet step has to be last, while you're at the airport keys in hand, if you ever think about it before leaving home, it's never worth it
14Three8@reddit
For a local flight, if there’s any particularly nasty wx or wind. The gliders I tow stop flying far before the Pawnee.
For a longer XC, I call a briefer the night before and get a picture then. Wind forecast above demo xwind, convective activity that I can’t get around on a single tank of gas, etc. that’s where jdugrment comes in.
Also helping me, I imagine Juan Browne commentating like it’s one of his incident reviews.
threeleafcloverspy@reddit
There are obvious no-gos, so I don’t think we’re talking about that.
On the borderline cases I like to limit myself to one thing I’m uncomfortable with. So if it’s at the top end of my comfort zone on wind, then I’m not going to go to a brand new airport. If I want to play around with a new tool (got a Sentry recently, or trying something new on ForeFlight) then I want a super easy flight where I’m comfortable with everything I’m doing. If I have an important meeting after my scheduled flight, I don’t want to do a longer trip where Im more likely to have delays or end up rushed.
It’s easy to say you shouldn’t fly if you’re uncomfortable but there really is a reality that you don’t improve if you don’t push yourself.
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BZ2USvets81@reddit
That's a good thought process. Thank you for sharing.
BagOfMoneyNoChange@reddit
For long flights, I keep an eye on the prog charts on the days leading up to it. If they prog charts don't look conducive to a successful outcome, or having to stop, I'll adjust my strategic plan.
Otherwise, I just take a peek at the radar and METARs/TAFs along my route before driving to the airport.
mirassou3416@reddit
This, I review weather starting a few days before the trip and adjust accordingly. There have been times when it's iffy and I've just decided to drive. I can recall one of those. We were flying back from PVD to HEF with an overnight at ISP. The morning of the flight from ISP there was a low pressure system sitting south of Long Island but everything from New Jersey southward was fine. I could have flown north and west around it and I was on an IFR flight plan.
I preflighted, started up, had clearance and called ground ready to taxi. I thought for a moment, called ground, shut down at the FBO and drove. Flew back commercially on the weekend and had a beautiful flight home.
SimilarTranslator264@reddit
If where I’m going is better then were I am, I’m going.
-burnr-@reddit
Check wxx. Above minimums = go.
Kemerd@reddit
Try this ForeFlight course, it will revolutionize your planning
https://youtu.be/a61fznC69aU?si=qRQ_R-J-nufv3p2Z
It should be very structured, checking weather. Have you gotten your IFR yet? Once you do, how you flight plan will go up a level.
vintageripstik@reddit
This includes some information on FAA recommended practices: https://youtu.be/6pmuprjAscg?si=3o-XwO27nrwSh3eP
twistenstein@reddit
Kind of hard to type out a catch-all ADM decision.
If the winds are less than 40kts, and the nothing is outside the aircraft limitations, then I send it.
BrtFrkwr@reddit
When it starts sounding like an accident report, I don't go.
DanThePilot_Mann@reddit
I just default to go. Nothing bad has happened to me yet, so why not.
DisregardLogan@reddit
ADM tells campfire stories about bro
jet-setting@reddit
FRAT tools are what we try to teach to students, and how to use that objective approach towards risk assessment and mitigation.
A user here shared an app they created for this and I think its great
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/pilot-minima/id6756037844
The FAA also has a tool that is OK at least for understanding the concept.
https://explore.dot.gov/t/FAA/views/FRATTOOL/FRATTool?%3Aembed=y&%3Aiid=1
__joel_t@reddit
For me this morning, it was three strikes: 1. Forecast strong gusting cross-winds at my home airport (near max demonstrated) 2. Forecast MVFR at my destination 3. Would have been the furthest I've flown from my home airport
Competitive-Ask5157@reddit
I make the weather go/no go call well before I waste time driving to the airport.
Random61504@reddit
Nothing worse than getting to the airport, preflighting the plane, ready to go, then realizing it isn't good weather and now you gotta tie it back up and drive all the way back home...
Mundane-Reality-7770@reddit
Personal minimums contract. Takes out the guesswork.
At least that works for local to short xc
Due-Letterhead6372@reddit
For a local area flight I'll just check the TAF. For an XC I'll get a weather briefing and make a decision based on what I see.
rFlyingTower@reddit
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How do you actually make your go/no-go decision before a flight?
I've been flying GA (as well as military) for a while and noticed almost everyone does it differently - some have a system, most just 'feel it out'.
Curious what the community actually does. Is there a structured process you follow, or is it mostly experience and gut?
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