The man has done literally nothing wrong, but the people he made turned on him and took his name off his own creation because they didn't like his tweets😒
Ya got me, I’m secretly Andrew Tate…I mean I must be right? You need some kind of fuel to convince yourself that I’m wrong so you can remain stubborn and continue to delude yourself.
Are you purposefully being obtuse or do you simply not understand the logical fallacy you’re committing here?
Notch is the exception, not the rule. For every 100 billionaires that work like dogs there is a Notch that lucked into a niche at the right time and made bank, but if you try to rely on being that guy you’ll probably never be successful in life.
Everyone wants minimal effort maximum gain, very few actually achieve this. So you can roll the dice and probably lose, or you can get busy stacking the deck in your favor. Your choice.
I have always thought I’d become increasingly more qualified in cool shit that interested me specifically, like learn how to operate and get certifications for increasingly more complex , massive and destructive forestry or mining equipment. I want to do a license for a walking excavator atm and I’m putting money aside for it, but if I was a billionaire like Notch I’d just work on that shit and build things. Idea rich would be boring , if I had means I would constantly try to challenge myself
As much as I disagree with his political views he is really like the ideal billionaire for me. Either quietly give it away like Mackenzie Scott, just hoard it and disappear like notch, or go buy a sports team.
So many of them are just obsessed with making people like them personally or rewriting the world in their image.
Put it that way and I gotta agree. If I made something that made me wealthy overnight I'd definitely want to fade into the background with my big bag of moolah. I don't want fame or interest. I wanna be left alone and start my own real life Fast and Furious ~~gang~~ family where we drink Corona and wrench on cars.
And that’s precisely why you’ll never become wealthy overnight.
Wealth is highly correlated with insane work ethic and the desire to solve problems and create value for society. That’s why the lazy among us that simply dream about what having millions or billions would be like will never get there.
There was some statistic I can't remember and don't want to look up about how 95% of self made people worth over 10 million get up before 6am. Or something. Hope I helped!
I agree with you generally that there is a correlation between work ethic+IQ and wealth, but I hate the idea of trying to emulate or admiring billionaires. They aren’t noble or superior in many respects and often times they are tasteless and covet property/money/capital the same way the lower class people do. The same work ethic/striving that made them covet and attain wealth means that wealth itself is both their means and end.
I am probably not explaining it as well as Nietzsche: “Danger in riches. — Only he who has spirit ought to have possessions: otherwise possessions are a public danger. For the possessor who does not know how to make use of the free time which his possessions could purchase him will always continue to strive after possessions: this striving will constitute his entertainment, his strategy in his war against boredom. Thus in the end the moderate possessions that would suffice the man of spirit are transformed into actual riches – riches which are in fact the glittering product of spiritual dependence and poverty. They only appear quite different from what their wretched origin would lead one to expect because they are able to mask themselves with art and culture: for they are, of course, able to purchase masks. By this means they arouse envy in the poorer and the uncultivated – who at bottom are envying culture and fail to recognize the masks as masks – and gradually prepare a social revolution: for gilded vulgarity and histrionic self-inflation in a supposed ‘enjoyment of culture’ instil into the latter the idea ‘it is only a matter of money’ – whereas, while it is to some extent a matter of money, it is much more a matter of spirit.”
That’s just one man’s opinion which is colored by his particular life experience. It’s also a product of its time and isn’t necessarily relevant to the modern entrepreneur.
I never spoke to the quality of their character only the value that they provide society and their general mindset, which absolutely is superior when it comes to their ability to think from first principals and solve problems. In those respects billionaires absolutely should be emulated.
There are many people that deny the obvious reality that billionaires provide value to society and they wish to steal their wealth and make it more difficult for billionaires to “exist”. Not only is this immoral, but it actually works against their own interests, which they stupidly do not realize until it’s too late and all the billionaires (who are fine either way) have left and taken their entrepreneurial activities elsewhere to stimulate and support other economies while the ones they vacated are left to rot (aka Europe, which has become nothing more than a luxury-goods/tourist economy).
So when people accuse me of “shilling” for billionaires I’m actually doing the opposite because I understand the cause and effect relationship of the economy. This is not to say I think they should have unchecked power, but the system is generally set up through modes of competition and reasonable anti-regulations such as anti-trust laws to curb any kind of runaway power they might obtain.
No, the majority are self made entrepreneurs, and I use self-made somewhat loosely as more than half of them came from some kind of money, but they still multiplied any amount they started with exponentially and created a massive amount of value for society.
Do you have any idea how many people have jobs because of billionaires? It’s almost everyone dude…and you’re going to fucking tell me they don’t create value for society?
The fuck are you even talking about!? It’s so god damned obvious it’s like saying water is wet.
So you can do two things…listen to the whiny propaganda of chuds that will never amount to anything and just drag you down with them because they have shitty mindsets not conducive to success or you can figure out what all the billionaires are doing, what they know that you don’t know, how they think about solving problems, their mental frameworks, etc and maybe have a shot at succeeding.
Here’s the thing…there are no fucking guarantees, you can work real hard and never become a billionaire, you probably won’t, but you’re almost guaranteed to improve your life in some way.
Start thinking of the world as probabilities and manipulating those probabilities in your favor and maybe you’ll actually get somewhere in life.
Notch is a wizard. What matters are results. In most cases, the low hanging fruit have been picked. You can almost never create a billion dollars of value with little effort and thought, because if it was easy someone would have already done it. To earn a billion dollars you have to do something that
1: People really really want (enough to pay a billion dollars for)
2: People aren't getting from someone else (or else that person would be getting the billion dollars and you'd have to split it with them, and everyone else doing it)
Which means doing something new that everyone else isn't already doing, or doing it better than them. In most cases that takes a lot of work, but sometimes it doesn't. People really really wanted a Minecraft. It wasn't all that hard to make, someone just needed to actually do it and do it well. So Notch did it. It required cleverness to do it properly and make it compelling, to realize what people actually wanted and create it. Notch is a wizard because he figured out how to make a game that people actually want instead of whatever it is that 90% of most game developers are doing with their heads up their asses, and he created value disproportionate to how much work it took. Notch is a billionaire because he provided billions of dollars of value to people. Doesn't matter how much work it took.
As Ive said many times Notch is the exception, not the rule. It’s very rare to make that kind of money on relatively little work.
I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve to be a billionaire, his reach certainly justifies his valuation, I’m just saying it’s not the norm and if you’re looking to become wealthy using a method that doesn’t require a lot of work you’ll likely never make it because you’re stacking the odds against you.
Money is something everyone wants and everyone in the world competes for and it’s foolish to think that you can generate any real wealth without at least working as hard as those that do. Without hard work as part of the equation you’re just rolling the dice.
I’m not shilling for useless eater billionaires that inherent their money and do nothing with it, but that’s the vast minority.
Most billionaires (although they may have inherited some wealth) are part of the entrepreneur-class and we very much need that class to support any thriving society.
The difference is he's just a guy who happened to make something that got popular and unintentionally become a billionaire. Minecraft could have flopped but it wouldn't have mattered to him because he made it for fun.
Contrast this to someone like Zuckerberg who purposely set out to become as rich as possible. That's why he keeps grinding away to increase his wealth despite having more than he could possibly spend. For people like him, it's just trying to get the highest score but the money is meaningless because they already won a long time ago.
Usually, the kind of mind needed to become a billionaire in the first place is also the kind of mind that is never satisfied with anything and always desire more.
He sold his creation to a pack of wolves and lives in his mansion, alone. I feel like he fucked up, he could have gotten rich and kept Minecraft, but instead he chose the money.
So true! Instead of selling Minecraft and living alone in a mansion he could've kept Minecraft and lived alone in a mansion! You should email him and tell him that.
Whenever i see commies online saying that there are no ethical billionaires I always think of him and imagine millions, billions even, of starving African orphans being banished to the shadow realm because of Minecraft while Notch laughs furiously in the background
TDKevin@reddit
He should make a AAA game about beating up old people and being racist and see if it fucks up Minecraft.
unexpectedDiarrhea@reddit
No one even knows who he is anymore. Most young people will tell you Minecraft was created by Microsoft at this point.
Mama_Mega@reddit
The man has done literally nothing wrong, but the people he made turned on him and took his name off his own creation because they didn't like his tweets😒
JessHorserage@reddit
Holy fucking shit didn't expect to see you here, hi mega.
plasticmanufacturing@reddit
Gross
JessHorserage@reddit
What? I know of mega. You see them out of the subs, you say hi. Pattern recognition.
Secure_Narwhal4045@reddit
plasticmanufacturing@reddit
Lol
BenAfflecksBalls@reddit
The single billionaire not in the Epstein files
Schtubbig@reddit
This but unironically.
ExtensionCap2@reddit
He had a promising work in progress called 0x10c but gave up on it. I really hope he can be arsed to finish it one day
drkinferno94@reddit
Isn't that just GTA?
TDKevin@reddit
Learn how to post.
Quetzal_Pretzel@reddit
Is that the Mark Wahlberg Telltale game I've been hearing about?
TypicalMootis@reddit
The perfect follow up DLC for "Good Trouble"
ColumbWasHere@reddit
If i was 1/100 of his money i would do exacly the same: chill and never work for the rest of my life
A_Dragon@reddit
And that’s why you never will.
Unfunnycommenter_@reddit
Yea bro keep hustling and grinding im sure youll make it one day
A_Dragon@reddit
I already have.
Why?
Because I hustled and grinded.
Stampylonghead_the_g@reddit
You haven't made it anywhere lmao
Unfunnycommenter_@reddit
Why do you have the speech manerisms of andrew tate tweets
A_Dragon@reddit
Ya got me, I’m secretly Andrew Tate…I mean I must be right? You need some kind of fuel to convince yourself that I’m wrong so you can remain stubborn and continue to delude yourself.
SirCamperTheGreat@reddit
But notch is an example of someone who literally did do that.
A_Dragon@reddit
Are you purposefully being obtuse or do you simply not understand the logical fallacy you’re committing here?
Notch is the exception, not the rule. For every 100 billionaires that work like dogs there is a Notch that lucked into a niche at the right time and made bank, but if you try to rely on being that guy you’ll probably never be successful in life.
Everyone wants minimal effort maximum gain, very few actually achieve this. So you can roll the dice and probably lose, or you can get busy stacking the deck in your favor. Your choice.
Big_Appointment8248@reddit
I have always thought I’d become increasingly more qualified in cool shit that interested me specifically, like learn how to operate and get certifications for increasingly more complex , massive and destructive forestry or mining equipment. I want to do a license for a walking excavator atm and I’m putting money aside for it, but if I was a billionaire like Notch I’d just work on that shit and build things. Idea rich would be boring , if I had means I would constantly try to challenge myself
Ranjit-RedeemSarr@reddit
He eats candy all day in his house. Have you seen his candy hall?
megaRXB@reddit
I remember in a podcast he said the candy wall sucked cause it was impossible to eat it before it went bad and it was a huge hassle to replace.
Lynorisa@reddit
If only he thought that through for more than two seconds
Foolishly_Sane@reddit
I never knew it was a thing.
GargantuanCake@reddit
What do you get from earning a billion dollars?
Diabetes, apparently.
AnalTyrant@reddit
Fortunately he can afford unlimited insulin forever.
willindeed@reddit
And Ozempic
drkspace2@reddit
But then that's less candy
theycallmeponcho@reddit
The one that rot away after the big ass parties the first week? Man, that was a dumb choice.
FrabjousPhaneron@reddit
Understandable choice
19Alexastias@reddit
As much as I disagree with his political views he is really like the ideal billionaire for me. Either quietly give it away like Mackenzie Scott, just hoard it and disappear like notch, or go buy a sports team.
So many of them are just obsessed with making people like them personally or rewriting the world in their image.
JapanStan@reddit
Put it that way and I gotta agree. If I made something that made me wealthy overnight I'd definitely want to fade into the background with my big bag of moolah. I don't want fame or interest. I wanna be left alone and start my own real life Fast and Furious ~~gang~~ family where we drink Corona and wrench on cars.
A_Dragon@reddit
And that’s precisely why you’ll never become wealthy overnight.
Wealth is highly correlated with insane work ethic and the desire to solve problems and create value for society. That’s why the lazy among us that simply dream about what having millions or billions would be like will never get there.
regimentIV@reddit
Only if "value for society" means "hoards of money for themselves".
poxxy@reddit
So true. Where do I sign up for your Alpha Dog training courses? Do you accept bitcoin?
A_Dragon@reddit
Tell ya what, you keep mocking, and I’ll keep laughing…sound good?
poxxy@reddit
Cringe.
A_Dragon@reddit
K
JapanStan@reddit
You're absolutely right. Notch is a paragon of work ethic. May I bask in his light and receive the holy "work ethic" that A_Dragon perceived I lack.
A_Dragon@reddit
He’s the exception, not the rule.
If you look at the average billionaire you’ll see that I am correct.
The ones that were born rich and odd ducks like him that essentially win the lottery by lucking into just the right thing at the right time are rare.
kapaipiekai@reddit
There was some statistic I can't remember and don't want to look up about how 95% of self made people worth over 10 million get up before 6am. Or something. Hope I helped!
A_Dragon@reddit
That generally tracks with what I’ve seen.
myreditacount11@reddit
I agree with you generally that there is a correlation between work ethic+IQ and wealth, but I hate the idea of trying to emulate or admiring billionaires. They aren’t noble or superior in many respects and often times they are tasteless and covet property/money/capital the same way the lower class people do. The same work ethic/striving that made them covet and attain wealth means that wealth itself is both their means and end.
I am probably not explaining it as well as Nietzsche: “Danger in riches. — Only he who has spirit ought to have possessions: otherwise possessions are a public danger. For the possessor who does not know how to make use of the free time which his possessions could purchase him will always continue to strive after possessions: this striving will constitute his entertainment, his strategy in his war against boredom. Thus in the end the moderate possessions that would suffice the man of spirit are transformed into actual riches – riches which are in fact the glittering product of spiritual dependence and poverty. They only appear quite different from what their wretched origin would lead one to expect because they are able to mask themselves with art and culture: for they are, of course, able to purchase masks. By this means they arouse envy in the poorer and the uncultivated – who at bottom are envying culture and fail to recognize the masks as masks – and gradually prepare a social revolution: for gilded vulgarity and histrionic self-inflation in a supposed ‘enjoyment of culture’ instil into the latter the idea ‘it is only a matter of money’ – whereas, while it is to some extent a matter of money, it is much more a matter of spirit.”
A_Dragon@reddit
That’s just one man’s opinion which is colored by his particular life experience. It’s also a product of its time and isn’t necessarily relevant to the modern entrepreneur.
I never spoke to the quality of their character only the value that they provide society and their general mindset, which absolutely is superior when it comes to their ability to think from first principals and solve problems. In those respects billionaires absolutely should be emulated.
There are many people that deny the obvious reality that billionaires provide value to society and they wish to steal their wealth and make it more difficult for billionaires to “exist”. Not only is this immoral, but it actually works against their own interests, which they stupidly do not realize until it’s too late and all the billionaires (who are fine either way) have left and taken their entrepreneurial activities elsewhere to stimulate and support other economies while the ones they vacated are left to rot (aka Europe, which has become nothing more than a luxury-goods/tourist economy).
So when people accuse me of “shilling” for billionaires I’m actually doing the opposite because I understand the cause and effect relationship of the economy. This is not to say I think they should have unchecked power, but the system is generally set up through modes of competition and reasonable anti-regulations such as anti-trust laws to curb any kind of runaway power they might obtain.
ThrowFar_Far_Away@reddit
You do realise you are writing this comment on a post about Notch right?
A_Dragon@reddit
Nope.
Notch is again, the exception, not the rule. He did indeed get lucky by doing exactly the right thing at the right time.
But the majority of the billionaires are workhorses.
ThrowFar_Far_Away@reddit
The majority of billionaires are lucky or inherited.
A_Dragon@reddit
No, the majority are self made entrepreneurs, and I use self-made somewhat loosely as more than half of them came from some kind of money, but they still multiplied any amount they started with exponentially and created a massive amount of value for society.
Do you have any idea how many people have jobs because of billionaires? It’s almost everyone dude…and you’re going to fucking tell me they don’t create value for society?
The fuck are you even talking about!? It’s so god damned obvious it’s like saying water is wet.
So you can do two things…listen to the whiny propaganda of chuds that will never amount to anything and just drag you down with them because they have shitty mindsets not conducive to success or you can figure out what all the billionaires are doing, what they know that you don’t know, how they think about solving problems, their mental frameworks, etc and maybe have a shot at succeeding.
Here’s the thing…there are no fucking guarantees, you can work real hard and never become a billionaire, you probably won’t, but you’re almost guaranteed to improve your life in some way.
Start thinking of the world as probabilities and manipulating those probabilities in your favor and maybe you’ll actually get somewhere in life.
46516481168158431985@reddit
Yes, if one guy buys up all the companies then he created all the jobs. What kind of clown reasoning is this.
A_Dragon@reddit
Yeah that’s all billionaires do, they just buy up other companies.
The only clown here is you and your inability to see past that big clown nose of yours.
46516481168158431985@reddit
They might not have started that way but yeah thats pretty much it. They just leech.
A_Dragon@reddit
You clearly have a poor understanding of reality. There’s no point in my continuing this “discussion”.
hh26@reddit
Notch is a wizard. What matters are results. In most cases, the low hanging fruit have been picked. You can almost never create a billion dollars of value with little effort and thought, because if it was easy someone would have already done it. To earn a billion dollars you have to do something that
1: People really really want (enough to pay a billion dollars for)
2: People aren't getting from someone else (or else that person would be getting the billion dollars and you'd have to split it with them, and everyone else doing it)
Which means doing something new that everyone else isn't already doing, or doing it better than them. In most cases that takes a lot of work, but sometimes it doesn't. People really really wanted a Minecraft. It wasn't all that hard to make, someone just needed to actually do it and do it well. So Notch did it. It required cleverness to do it properly and make it compelling, to realize what people actually wanted and create it. Notch is a wizard because he figured out how to make a game that people actually want instead of whatever it is that 90% of most game developers are doing with their heads up their asses, and he created value disproportionate to how much work it took. Notch is a billionaire because he provided billions of dollars of value to people. Doesn't matter how much work it took.
A_Dragon@reddit
As Ive said many times Notch is the exception, not the rule. It’s very rare to make that kind of money on relatively little work.
I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve to be a billionaire, his reach certainly justifies his valuation, I’m just saying it’s not the norm and if you’re looking to become wealthy using a method that doesn’t require a lot of work you’ll likely never make it because you’re stacking the odds against you.
Money is something everyone wants and everyone in the world competes for and it’s foolish to think that you can generate any real wealth without at least working as hard as those that do. Without hard work as part of the equation you’re just rolling the dice.
AnOddGremlin@reddit
not even good ragebait
A_Dragon@reddit
Stay stubborn, stay poor buddy.
AnOddGremlin@reddit
shilling billionaires is insane behavior, go touch some grass lol
A_Dragon@reddit
I’m not shilling for billionaires, I’m shilling for you. But you’re too stupid and stuck in your own mindset to get it.
ToaKraka@reddit
tfw no billionaire obsessed with building cool monuments (except maybe Charlie Munger, RIP)
A_Dragon@reddit
You mean adding value to the economy by creating useful things that people need and creating jobs?
Yeah fuck those guys.
Dhayson@reddit
Depends a lot on what they did to earn the money and how they spend it tbf.
A_Dragon@reddit
Sure, I guess.
I’m not shilling for useless eater billionaires that inherent their money and do nothing with it, but that’s the vast minority.
Most billionaires (although they may have inherited some wealth) are part of the entrepreneur-class and we very much need that class to support any thriving society.
19Alexastias@reddit
Yeah bro hit me with some more bullshit cliches in defence of billionaires. Hope you’re getting paid to s h i l l.
PornoPaul@reddit
What are his views?
Thebigbestman@reddit
He's what some people would call a nazi chud transphobic racist misogynist far-right inkwell, et caetera
So basically a sane normal (based) person, but with enough money to not care what people think of him
Kief_Bowl@reddit
Based and notch pilled
SingleDigitVoter@reddit
I wish more billionaires would just fuck off.
angus22proe@reddit
Notch didn't go to the island thankfully
maiwson@reddit
He got one shit storm then shuts up forever.
magician_type-0@reddit
that seems intelligent
Lastburn@reddit
He posts playtests of the rogue like shooter he's developing from time to time
Mapother11@reddit
I'm still waiting for him to start the next Beer Hall Putsch
CharAznableLoNZ@reddit
If I had that level of fuck you money I wouldn't do anything either.
Sharky-Li@reddit
The difference is he's just a guy who happened to make something that got popular and unintentionally become a billionaire. Minecraft could have flopped but it wouldn't have mattered to him because he made it for fun.
Contrast this to someone like Zuckerberg who purposely set out to become as rich as possible. That's why he keeps grinding away to increase his wealth despite having more than he could possibly spend. For people like him, it's just trying to get the highest score but the money is meaningless because they already won a long time ago.
Master_Shopping9652@reddit
I was really looking forward to 'Mars Effect' spaceship game.
pookiegonzalez@reddit
they’re so close to figuring out that billionaires don’t fucking work or contribute anything to society
Dhrox@reddit
Usually, the kind of mind needed to become a billionaire in the first place is also the kind of mind that is never satisfied with anything and always desire more.
droogvertical@reddit
He sold his creation to a pack of wolves and lives in his mansion, alone. I feel like he fucked up, he could have gotten rich and kept Minecraft, but instead he chose the money.
STFUNeckbeard@reddit
How is that a fuck up
Bum_King@reddit
He could have kept making number go up! Instead he has to suffer the rest of his life living off a few measly billions.
jizzleaker@reddit
Those ideals are quite literally what is dooming human civilization.
Schtubbig@reddit
So true! Instead of selling Minecraft and living alone in a mansion he could've kept Minecraft and lived alone in a mansion! You should email him and tell him that.
Do-it-for-you@reddit
Dude's a billionaire, what could you possible do with even more money?
Kallonistic@reddit
I think Microsoft paid him to fuck off because he was controversial
ProfessionalRip4917@reddit
This fat fuck made something amazing and it is now slop because he sold out.
MADMAXV2@reddit
Ragebait used to be believable
SkibididdyOhio@reddit
Whenever i see commies online saying that there are no ethical billionaires I always think of him and imagine millions, billions even, of starving African orphans being banished to the shadow realm because of Minecraft while Notch laughs furiously in the background