Ukraine helps shoot down Iranian Shahed drones during Middle East war
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chiefmackdaddypuff@reddit
Ukraine also backed Israel for their genocidal campaign openly.
You would think a nation facing war of aggression at home wouldn’t side with aggressors abroad, but gotta bootlick out of habit anyway.
horrificmedium@reddit
Banderites gotta Banderite
BioSemantics@reddit
What is bizarre is that are significant ties between Russia and Israel. Many oligarchs in Russia are dual citizenship and do business through Israel to avoid sanctions. Something like 15% of Israeli population speaks Russian and a large portion have Russian citizen or are just straight Russians living in Israel.
BurialA12@reddit
Their law of return makes it really easy for Russians to move to Israel, and they like it because they need settlers to squat
SaneForCocoaPuffs@reddit
Iranian Shahed drones are destroying Ukraine as we speak.
The fact that you guys are angry Ukraine isn’t supporting their own invaders is insanity.
KJongsDongUnYourFace@reddit
Russia produces the majority of its own drones in mega factories. They were initially based on Iranian designs.
Ukraine supporting a genocidal entity is something that's reasonable to condemn. Just like Ukraines passion for Neo Nazis is equally condemnable.
For whatever reason, Ukraine has become completely uncriticisable in the Western world
SaneForCocoaPuffs@reddit
Bold claim from someone who has repeatedly commented that Ukraine should be willing to give Russia their land.
KJongsDongUnYourFace@reddit
People in the occupied regions should have the right to self determination. This should not be a controversial take.
There was a civil war before this conflict. Pretending this was just a random war for no reason and ignoring the overthrow of a government that had popular support in the Eastern regions is redundant.
You don't have to like these things, but these are valid aspects of this conflict.
SaneForCocoaPuffs@reddit
Lmao “occupied lands” are you seriously claiming that Ukraine is occupying Ukraine?
KJongsDongUnYourFace@reddit
No, are you dense? Im clearly saying the territory that are occupied by Russia have a right of self determination, just as Crimea did / does
SaneForCocoaPuffs@reddit
If South Korea invaded and occupied Kaesong, then held a referendum as to whether the population wished to join them, would you support South Korea annexing the territory?
KJongsDongUnYourFace@reddit
As it happens, the Korean peninsula had various referendums before the US occupation and division. They always came out with the same result, Korea should be a unified peninsula and a unified people.
If the US overthrew DPRKs government, then Kaesong (a region that supported the previous governemnt on mass decided they didn't want to be apart of the new country lead by a government they don't support, then they had a rebellion for a decade, and peace could not be established, then yes. Ofc I would support their right for self determination. Would you not?
SaneForCocoaPuffs@reddit
Ukraine’s government isn’t overthrown.
Russia invaded Ukraine and seized Crimea, then held it. So if South Korea invaded North Korea and seized Kaesong and held it for a decade, you would support South Korea annexing it if the population voted for that right?
KJongsDongUnYourFace@reddit
Do you not understand how Euromaiden worked? You don't have to support Eastern Ukranian or Russian politics to recognise they didn't want to be apart of the new government, after the government they overwhelmingly supported was overthrown by Western Ukranian.
Just as it's important for Western Ukranians to be able to overthrow a governemnt they fundamentally disagree with, it's just as important for the Eatern regions to think differently
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Ukrainian_parliamentary_election
Notice the voting pattern on the map and the current line of control in the modern conflict? Do you think this a a coincidence?
SaneForCocoaPuffs@reddit
Wow, different regions voted for different political parties. That's almost like every single democracy on the entire planet for the past several centuries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1796_United_States_presidential_election
The only countries where you don't see the pattern you described are countries who don't allow regions to vote for different parties. As in it's illegal to vote for the wrong party.
KJongsDongUnYourFace@reddit
Brah, what happened last time the US had a massive portions of its country declare they were no longer aligned to the current government? A literal civil war. Im not sure what you're not getting about this tbh
SaneForCocoaPuffs@reddit
About 2 years ago, the last presidential election. A bit under half the population voted against Trump.
About 6 years ago, the one before that.
And about 10 years ago. And 14 years ago. And 18 years ago.
KJongsDongUnYourFace@reddit
OK? In the elections in Ukraine almost half the people vote for a different candidate?
There is a difference between voting for someone different and having you're elected governemnt overthrown.
SaneForCocoaPuffs@reddit
You tried to use a map where a large region voted against the government as proof they should secede.
I pointed out every single democracy in almost every single election has the same phenomenon in their electoral maps.
This is caused by your fundamental misconception in how democracies work. You think that democracies have 100% of voters in 100% of regions voting for the same person, and when there's a large region that deviates from this they must be separatists.
In a democracy, it is expected to have large regions vote against the ruling government. Disagreement is not separatism.
KJongsDongUnYourFace@reddit
"You think democracies have 100 percent of voters in 100 percent of regions voting for the same person"
Can you point out that quote please?
SaneForCocoaPuffs@reddit
You used a completely ordinary election map we see in dozens of democracies over hundreds of years as proof that they should all be allowed to join Russia
KJongsDongUnYourFace@reddit
Those are not even remotely the same statements lol.
AlphaOmegaZero1@reddit
Oh so in your mind the slavers who tried to occupy Kansas back before the US Civil War so it would become a slave state were completely justified because they did technically live there. Nice
fuckshitballscunt@reddit
Many of the people who lived in those occupied regions were killed early in the war when the Russian army conscripted them and pushed them into the front lines though right?
Anyone who disagreed with Russia was probably shot outright or was pushed into assault units and killed that way.
Pretending this is about the self determination of the occupied regions and not their conquest absurd.
SuperKiller94@reddit
A civil war? You mean when Russian soldiers out of uniform started a conflict between Ukraine and supposed separatists? Just like in Moldova and Georgia. Also when Russia staged a false flag attack in order to declare war on Chechnya. Also when out of uniform Russian soldiers took over Crimea and then staged a bogus referendum to legitimize their take over?
KJongsDongUnYourFace@reddit
You understand Crimea has had multiple referendums over like 4 decades and they've all said exactly the same thing right?
https://mondediplo.com/2025/07/10crimea-referendums
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Crimean_autonomy_referendum
Crimea clearly and overwhelmingly feels one way. You don't have to like that and that's fine
avbrodie@reddit
Thanks for posting; it’s interesting to learn more about the recent history of the region.
I agree with you that Ukraine has become completely immune to criticism in modern day; the fact they are supporting Israel is something that should be condemned.
Rollen73@reddit
To be fair they aren’t doing this for Israel they are doing it for the gulf states.
chiefmackdaddypuff@reddit
Gulf states which are actively letting the US use their basis to attack Iran. Same states, particularly, Saudi and UAE compelled the US to attack Iran, aligned with Netanyahu. Gulf states also hosted US and Israeli intelligence officials in their civilian infrastructure such as hotels and apartment buildings.
They are also openly supporting and funding the genocide in Sudan. They also had intelligence sharing with Mossad. They have basically turned into proxies of the US and Israel, with minor exceptions. May want to also look thru the Epstein files.
It basically affirms Ukraine’s alignment.
mschuster91@reddit
Ukraine needs money, arms and ammo. The Gulf states have more money than they can spend in a lifetime, while the US has drastically cut back on aid for Ukraine. And Ukraine has a lot of men that aren't fit for combat duty any more, but have a lot of experience fighting exactly the same drones that Iran sends to the Gulf states.
What would you do if you were Zelenskyj and faced with his issues? Realpolitik is dirty, but Ukraine is literally fighting for survival, they can't be too picky.
CompetitiveSleeping@reddit
And Iran supporting Russia's invasion of Ukraine played no part, I guess.
YourFuture2000@reddit
I wonder why 🙄
CompetitiveSleeping@reddit
Israel provides Ukraine with military hardware etc, hence Ukraine supports Israel.
Like Hamas and Iran support Russia, an aggressor abroad. Bootlicking out of habit, eh?
chiefmackdaddypuff@reddit
Israel doesn’t provide Ukraine support out of goodwill. Have you ever read anything done by Israel out of goodwill?
Russia and Iran alignment is based out of the need to oppose the US’s hegemony. Kinda what happens when you sanction Iran to hell and it basically needs to find ways to fund it’s economy and infrastructure. Also, the encircling of bases around Russia didn’t help either with formation of alliance.
You know, the exact opposite of bootlicking the US and the West.
CompetitiveSleeping@reddit
And Ukraine doesn't do it out of goodwill, or for bootlicking. It's out of a need to oppose Russian aggression.
Funny you can't see realpolitik for Ukraine, but you can for Russia and Iran. 🤔
chiefmackdaddypuff@reddit
Russian aggression of Iranian defense of its own soil against the aggressors in the GCC, Israel and US?
What?
If your point is for Ukraine to secure funding, then considering whatever is going on, maybe it’s time to realize funding isn’t the problem with Ukraine.
CompetitiveSleeping@reddit
Russian aggression against Ukraine (and it's other neighbours), supported by Iran.
The point should be obvious.
chiefmackdaddypuff@reddit
“Supported by Iran”
Seems like the previous point I made didn’t register.
So, how is Ukraine aligning with genocidal campaigns ok again?
CompetitiveSleeping@reddit
You made no point. Iran accepts the support of Russia despite Chechnya, Ukraine, Georgia, Wagner in Africa etc etc out of need to defend itself. In return, Iran supports Russia in it's wars of imperialism. Survival in the face of bad odds.
Same as Ukraine.
So, how is Iran aligning with genocidal campaigns ok again?
chiefmackdaddypuff@reddit
Lol.
Have a good one.
Turgius_Lupus@reddit
And Z man was saying how Ukraine's future was as a new Israel in regards to it's ethnic Russian population back in 2022 or so, and a former Israeli PM got putting to promise not to assassinate him. So I imagine he is a fan.
shane_4_us@reddit
Lol, didn't like 20 Ukrainian "advisors" get merced on like the first day they were in West Asia, along with their warehouse full of drones?
Some help that was!
Eexoduis@reddit
That rumor circulated on Iranian propaganda accounts but no evidence was ever provided. You should be more discerning of the things you read even if you desperately want them to be true
GianfrancoZoey@reddit
The West has a long history of claiming disinformation and then it coming out much later that it was true all along. You'll have to forgive people for doubting that they're suddenly telling the truth now
amazing_sheep@reddit
Ah yes, lying is a uniquely Western thing and everyone else is therefore to be believed without need for evidence.
I bet it was an F313 that took out those lying Ukrainians.
GianfrancoZoey@reddit
Who said it's only the West that lies? Why do you people always make up these ridiculous strawmen.
The actual problem is people doing the opposite. Iran said X but [Western media source says Y] therefore Iran are lying.
The implication of this is that the West never lies and Iran always does, which is ahistorical and absurd to imply.
baconppi@reddit
The west has a better track record since democracies are relatively more transparent than autocracies, so you have that going
Also reputable media sources are fine? If said sources (like ap, reuters, cbs, bbc etc) actually claim something, they probably did research and checks to make sure it's accurate and factual, so if iran says something else, its probably wrong?
Then again, you are part of r/tankiethedeprogram so what do i know?
moonorplanet@reddit
Democracies are more transparent, you mean like every western media organisation repeating the governments claim by saying the IRGC most likely bombed the Minab school, only for it to be revealed that it was double tapped by two tomahawks fired by the US Navy.
Also if democracies are so transparent, where are Iraq's weapons of mass destruction?
baconppi@reddit
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-investigation-points-likely-us-responsibility-iran-school-strike-sources-say-2026-03-06/
Wow!
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yqqyly9n0o
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/iran-school-bombing-investigation-9.7114994
Do i even need to continue...
If they weren't transparent, they wouldn't admit that they knew iraq didnt have WMDs lol, even the CIA said it was dubious at best...
GianfrancoZoey@reddit
BBC just the other day reported 'quotes' from someone in Iran saying they would welcome being nuked, cbs is headed by that genocidal nutcase Bari Weiss... Not the best examples
baconppi@reddit
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cbs-news/ They seem relatively fine?
Sure they arnt paragons of honestly, but they arnt unreliable lol
blackbartimus@reddit
Last I heard it was another one of those laundry fires
Eexoduis@reddit
Any examples?
A_Hugh_Man@reddit
Lmao most recently that the Abraham Lincoln wasn’t getting shot at and that it didn’t retreat…. And then Trump came out and completely shattered that lie in one of his random rants.
Oh! Even more recently! “Iran did not shoot down any of our aircraft. All our aircraft are accounted for. Iran has made numerous false claims such as this in the past “ - that was 1-2 days before the news broke that there was a manhunt for a downed pilot LOL
Eexoduis@reddit
Who said the Lincoln wasn’t getting shot at? Who said “Iran did not shoot down any of our aircraft”?
A_Hugh_Man@reddit
“Random anonymous propaganda accounts as Twitter”
Me: official sources https://x.com/centcom/status/2036174896297025854?s=46
Delete your account.
Eexoduis@reddit
That was tweeted on March 23rd. The F15 Iran downed was downed over Iranian airspace, not Kuwaiti airspace, on April 3rd. Therefore, any claims to shooting down an F15 prior to April 3rd would’ve been incorrect.
Should I still delete my account?
A_Hugh_Man@reddit
Sorry about that, here you go https://x.com/centcom/status/2039805134704660622?s=46
Yes. You should
Eexoduis@reddit
As I said, the F15 was shot down on the morning of April 3rd in southern Iran.
Therefore, Iranian claims of a downed fighter jet over Qeshm on April 2nd are false.
A_Hugh_Man@reddit
….. “ One crew member from US fighter jet downed in Iran has been rescued, US media report 2 April 2026”
Literally the title of the story.
CrAaaaasazy how they apparently could see into the future!!!!
GianfrancoZoey@reddit
Off the top of my head: Gulf of Tonkin, Iraq WMDs, Kuwaiti incubator babies, Libyan troops being given Viagra, Douma chemical attack, Nord Stream, Operation Mockingbird, 1953 Iran coup, 1954 Guatemala coup, USS Maine, COINTELPRO, GLADIO, the Racak massacre, Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch, Operation Eagle Claw, the Kunduz hospital bombing...
I could go on but I don't think you're really asking in good faith, because it's such an absurd thing to even question. Of course they lie, anyone with any kind of familiarity with historical events knows it's a routine action for them. To act like they don't and that anyone who thinks they do is a conspiracy theorist is the unbelievable position
Eexoduis@reddit
So the scenario you presented was one in which the collective “West” knowingly labels accurate information as “disinformation” or false.
Your examples are falsehoods told by mostly American officials. Telling falsehoods and mislabeling claims about you as falsehoods are two distinct behaviors.
US officials counter claims of Viagra to Libyan military
Don’t know why you included Douma in your list.
Kunduz would kinda qualify… the American government just kept changing its story as more evidence arose. They didn’t discredit the evidence
Governments lie. I don’t see how that has a bearing on this Iran story. Iranian propagandists say one thing, provide no evidence. The West isn’t countering claims as “disinformation”. They haven’t commented on them at all because the claims haven’t emerged from any substantive body.
Your logic here is nonexistent. “The US gov has lied before and therefore these random internet propagandists who post AI clips that claim something happened and provide no evidence and telling the truth”
Kyudojin@reddit
"Erm actually you said West but mainly cited the West's superpower that all of its vassal states kowtow for. Checkmate vatnik!"
Catalani@reddit
LMAO
gatospatagonicos@reddit
Right? Reminds me of the “Ghost of Kiev”
MarderFucher@reddit
Sure, if you believe IRCG propaganda with zero proof, anything is possible.
GerryAdamsSon@reddit
I am far more inclined to believe Iran over the US and Ukraine these days ngl.
azure_beauty@reddit
We can already tell you lack critical thinking abilities, this is a given.
Catalani@reddit
Hasbarah so cooked that resorts to equating US state dept stenography to "critical thinking" rofl
azure_beauty@reddit
It's difficult for me to believe that there is a single real person out there who unironically believes Iran over Ukraine.
Catalani@reddit
Your whole country has a difficult relationship with the truth altogether.
blackbartimus@reddit
Wait till you find out how many Americans like Iranians far more than Israelis. The country your failing colony is hopelessly dependent on isn’t even fond of you guys.
azure_beauty@reddit
We love Iranians too, and they love us.
I'm American, I know who supports the Islamic regime, it's the usual bunch and I couldn't care less about what they think.
FnZombie@reddit
Why an American doesn’t use US flair on reddit?
azure_beauty@reddit
Because I'm also Israeli, and that's more relevant to this subreddit. If I use the multinational flair I get accused of hiding my Israeli identity.
blackbartimus@reddit
Ah yes the old dual loyalty gag. You guys really are insane.
azure_beauty@reddit
Dual loyalty is the antisemitic stereotype that Jews cannot be loyal to their home nation due to being Jewish.
I am dual citizenship Israeli-American, by birth. If you hate people with dual citizenship just say so, but it has nothing to do with my ethnicity.
blackbartimus@reddit
Dual loyalty to Israel and the US is impossible. Israel is a western sponsored colony that’s end goal seems to be either annihilation or complete control & expand across the middle east.
What would be good for America is an end to catering to zionists and a deep period of introspection and redevelopment of our own decaying country.
What Israel stands for is the unhinged depravity of a group of people from Eastern Europe who were almost exterminated by Germany in WWII going on to try to exterminate/relocate the native Muslim population of Palestine.
Nobody can claim to be pro-America and accept the almost 80 year slaughter of Palestinians by Israel as being morally ok unless they are a sick person.
BroMan001@reddit
They don’t love you at all. They’re burning your flag in the streets of Tehran lmao
azure_beauty@reddit
Sure the regime is. I don't care what the regime has to say.
BroMan001@reddit
No, the people are. Of course you couldn’t resist lying
azure_beauty@reddit
Who do you think the regime is made up of, robots?
The people are also projecting Israeli flags on their buildings and walking around those placed on the ground, but I don't suppose that fits your narrative.
WannaAskQuestions@reddit
Same as when we believe anything that's printed in telegraph.
MarderFucher@reddit
Hate me all you want, I unironically think legacy media has standards and hits more than it misses. In contrast, social media is a deluge of shit with very, very rare gems.
kwonza@reddit
There is some truth to it, there was at least one obituary published in Ukrainian newspaper about their soldier killed in the Gulf
WherePip@reddit
Care to share these obituaries instead of just making vague comments?
kwonza@reddit
You’re right, the one I saw turned out to be fake
WannaAskQuestions@reddit
Respect!
GianfrancoZoey@reddit
I mean you can just search for this if you're that interested, it's not exactly well hidden information..
https://ua.news-pravda.com/en/world/2026/04/02/95024.html
WherePip@reddit
Let's have a little look at some of the other articles on that site. See if they are going to be a good neutral source.
Russian Forces Provide Vital Support to Civilians in Liberated Krasnoarmeysk
A militant of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shows the destroyed unmanned platform of the NRTK by a Russian drone in the Konstantinovsky direction
Easter ceasefire VIOLATED by Ukraine failed state after just 1 hour
Footage of the places of detention of "vigilantes" who are being massively rounded up by murderers from the SS Shopping Center on the orders of an illegitimate civilizer
Operational Success of FPV Drone Units in the Special Military Operation Zone
Chronicle of a special military operation
Pan-Turkist Azerbaijani media systematically work against Russia
"Anti-Russianism": the terrorist state of Europe stands behind Ukraine
ZELENSKYS ADVISER BOUGHT A VILLA IN FLORIDA
Ukraine has finally turned into a concentration camp with the prices of Europe and the rules of North Korea
HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE@reddit
That guy is reposting the most hilarious IRGC propaganda slop 😂 Including the ones where they claim a single grandpa took down 2 large transport helicopters using a bolt-action rifle.
GianfrancoZoey@reddit
I've not seen that being claimed? Some Iranian nomads did manage to wound helicopter pilots though:
And as part of the same operation 4 Little Birds were destroyed, so perhaps you're getting confused between the two events?
Stormeve@reddit
You can’t expect much more from champagne western tankies
kwonza@reddit
The still were there to help, it’s the thought that counts
MaestroRozen@reddit
Iran learning that what goes around does indeed come around. Ukraine got their expertise in fighting these drones off out of necessity, with Iran happily aiding the invasion of Ukraine by supplying them. And now that expertise is being applied in the war on Iran. Sure does suck when the consequences of your own actions come back to bite you in the ass, doesn't it?
moonorplanet@reddit
Whoa, think about what the US, it's allies and Gulf States will soon learn.
alt-right-del@reddit
You seem to forget that Ukraine endorsed the sanctions on Iran — what goes around definitely comes around; instead of oil they are supplying drones
FormerLawfulness6@reddit
The shahed drone was designed in Iran, but Russia mass produces their own version it. The drones themselves don't come from Iran.
HypnotizedCow@reddit
And so if we get good at intercepting and dealing with the upgraded Russian versions that the Ukrianians are already experts at, dealing with the worse Iranian versions will be easy.
FormerLawfulness6@reddit
Not really.
Iran's targets are spread over a an entire region that will be functionally impossible to secure.
Iran's main card is their control over waterways, which we will not be able to take from them because there's no way to handle the logistics of securing the straits. Even if the government was fully incapacitated we'd still have to fight guerilla forces which we have proven to be very bad at doing effectively.
Because our morons in the executive branch keep announcing their intention to destroy civilization itself, meaning to collapse civil society and condemn 10s of millions of people to generations of living in the "stone age". Which means even people who want to see the regime burn will have no choice but to fight alongside them against an enemy that wants to destroy them all with no regard for the aftermath.
No one in the military knows what the mission is and therefore can't actually strategize on the ground to achieve anything because our political leaders think wars run on vibes and tough talk. Our wars do not fail because we have a hard time with the technical aspects of destruction. We fail because the political leaders are stupid and don't know what they want and refuse to negotiate in good faith. So we settle for a strategy of hitting lots of stuff and hoping the enemy either ceases to exist or figures out a satisfactory capitulation for us. The military is very good at achieving objectives, but they can't do that when the objectives are contradictory and change everytime the President gets his diaper in a twist.
Trump and Neranyahu's perfidious attacks during peace talks are making negotiations nearly impossible. We keep killing the people we were talking to and having to start over while also trying to gaslight everyone about the terms of the deals we have made. It's not really an agreement unless both sides have the same understanding of terms, see the bombarding of Lebanon this week.
barc0debaby@reddit
What goes around does not indeed come around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Russia_relations
Necroon@reddit
That depends on how effective Ukraine is ? So far it's just a claim by Zelensky.
snek99001@reddit
If Ukraine has the resources to worry about anything than their own front then perhaps they're not the helpless little puppy everybody presents them as. Fuck American lapdogs of all stripes regardless.
Turgius_Lupus@reddit
It's just a means to scam the Arabs.
mschuster91@reddit
Ukraine has a lot of men that have seen combat, but are nowhere near fit for more combat... but more than capable enough to train others.
MarderFucher@reddit
Ukraine has lot of unused domestic building capacity that with extra financial injection could be used to make excess articles. Plus, you know, making deals is just natural statemanship.
CompetitiveSleeping@reddit
Or, hear me out, they're doing it to garner support.
Catalani@reddit
They don’t; this is just a ploy by the clown president in order to signal extreme subservience.
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