Tens of thousands rally at megaconcert to vote out Hungary's Orbán
Posted by Naurgul@reddit | anime_titties | View on Reddit | 37 comments
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cmrd_msr@reddit
I daresay organizing such a large-scale event costs a pretty penny.
It would be interesting to know who paid for it all. And from what money.
There's reason to believe it wasn't the Hungarians or the Hungarians.
MarderFucher@reddit
That's a whole lot of insecurity and loaded question, ain't it russkie?
But for your info, it was organized by the Civic Resistance Movement, a non-profit org made up by various artists and public persons. The artists all played for free, the equipment was paid by donations.
Also, does it matter? Do you think the ~300 thousand attendees were all paid actors, and if so, when can I expect my cheque?
cmrd_msr@reddit
I'm only interested in the organization.
I have a rough idea of what it takes to organize a massive rock festival for several hundred thousand people.
The cost of organizing, say, "Nashestvie" is no secret.
MarderFucher@reddit
It's not a festival. It was a one-off free event, audiovisual equipment probably costed a few million euros to rent. There weren't even any stalls.
arcalumis@reddit
Getting rid of wannabe dictators tends to be something artists do for free.
cmrd_msr@reddit
Is the beer, food, toilet facilities, and waste disposal also free? You Europeans are like children in some ways.
arcalumis@reddit
Russia
"You Europeans".
It doesn't cost millions to rent a port a potty. And why it's important I don't understand. Any organization that works against people like Orban are worth their cost.
cmrd_msr@reddit
What's crucial here is whether the group is Hungarian or foreign.
In the latter case, it's "election interference." A crime against sovereignty.
Make-TFT-Fun-Again@reddit
In that case Orban should have been put in jail long ago.
arcalumis@reddit
Having an event is election interference?
cmrd_msr@reddit
The day before the election and against one of the candidates? Definitely yes.
arcalumis@reddit
Not really no. They aren't interfering with anything.
FeistyGate8784@reddit
Here in the states people do rallies like this all the time. Usually paid by people who like the campaign/candidate.
Make-TFT-Fun-Again@reddit
It’s a lot cheaper when you don’t have to pay people to attend
cmrd_msr@reddit
Not really. The main costs are precisely those of organizing the presence of people on the site (they need to be fed, watered, cleaned up after, excuse me, crap, provided with medical care, which, with such a large number of people, someone will undoubtedly need, and ensuring their safety (from each other and from external ill-wishers).
dust-ranger@reddit
Are you implying the food vendors show up and give away food for free?
Make-TFT-Fun-Again@reddit
Orban has the entire media under lockdown and reportedly spend 1.5 billion HUF on billboards alone- with both public funds and russian “donations”.
But suddenly bro is suspicious when the largest opposition movement in decades can get a 1-day concert together.
Clearly foreign meddling. 🧐 unacceptable!
VladimiroPudding@reddit
We can talk about how many euros was received to fund this concert only before we conduct an investigation how his money Fidesz people and related people got from Russian operatives during all these years, let alone investigate years of messages between the foreign ministry and Lavrov, for starters.
You know, there is an investigation backlog. First solve the backlog, then we can get to investigate this concert.
Chipay@reddit
What reasons are there to believe it wasn't Hungary/Hungarians?
And do we consider that to be an issue? In 2023 Orbán's government received over €10bln of EU grants and subsidies, it's only fitting for a healthy democracy that the opposition receives similar financial support, no?
polymute@reddit
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simplexrofl@reddit
Do you think Russian money would have helped fund a pro-Orban rally of the same size?
cmrd_msr@reddit
I have no idea.
I never thought about interfering in the elections of other countries.
simplexrofl@reddit
What a great non-answer. Glad to see you're willing to turn your astute observation skills inward.
VladimiroPudding@reddit
It was obviously sponsored by Ukrainian infiltrated big money Soros people disguised as Peter Magyar clones.
Obligatory /s because this is Reddit.
ThatHeckinFox@reddit
It'd cost a lot if it was at some venue, but this was on a public square.
And even if it was sponsored by someone foreign opposing orbán, well, anything is better than Putin's buttplug, so sponsor away, lizard people!
MarderFucher@reddit
It was amazing. For a few weeks now at least, with all the demonstrations, Tisza's social media dominance, constant government scandals and exposés, the atmosphere is one where it feels like I can grab with certainity, its totally over for Orbán and Fidesz, this is their last days.
People are just fed up, there's lot of anger but also hope and pride. Fidesz looks pathetic and borderline sad, they know it too its done deal.
marvin_bender@reddit
I'm glad to hear it but surprised that the Russians + Maga haven't dominated social media. Over here in Romania they absolutely control most of it.
MarderFucher@reddit
Since around 2019 his own homegrown caste of influencers and groups, using HUF billions in embezzled public money spent on social media advertising gave them unhindered domination over social media. They never needed a foreign bot/troll army as they made their own.
But their game got stale, and as an ex-Fidesz member Magyar knows exactly how to fight back. The tides started to turn in 2024 and by now, Fidesz' politicans and influencer posts were being noticably behind in engagement. Today I go to any Orbán or Szijjártó posts and at least 50% are laugh reacts. They had a lead for years, but lost it.
They've tried this absurd digital army shit in 2025 by recruiting volunteers to spread copypaste messages and help boost engagement but since its mostly technically illiterate old people that joined the movement, it was a stillbirth attempt.
VladimiroPudding@reddit
It seems Fidesz decided to control only media that impact their electoral hubs, which are mainly villages and rural areas. Hungarian traditional media has been famously controlled by Orbán's friends, for years. Then, they skewed electoral districts to give way more power to these areas.
marvin_bender@reddit
Yeah but TikTok achieved massive penetration in rural Romania and they were able to use it very successfully for propaganda.
dust-ranger@reddit
Nobody deserves to be vassals to criminals. I have hope for Hungary.
Jazzlike_Figure_2271@reddit
The only people who are not vassals to criminals are criminals.
Chipay@reddit
Bro, henchmen are literally criminals that are vassals to criminals.
CantaloupeComplex209@reddit
I think they meant that people that don't submit to corrupt leadership get suppressed or arrested, leaving only the "vassals to to criminals".
VladimiroPudding@reddit
There are only two questions remaining: 1. If Tisza is going to get the supermajortiy to undo the layers upon layers of shit to the democracy system in Hungary (judges, gerrymandering, etc). If not, their government will be difficult if a bunch of Fidesz sycophants remain in their seats; 2. If powers-that-be (Russian thugs and Orbán's shenanigans) will operate large scale located vote fraud and vote suppression. Aka messing with votes from ethnic Hungarians from nearby countries, making difficulties for people to go voting on Tisza hubs like Budapest.
I wish luck to Hungarians (and, to extent, the Europe Union) tomorrow.
GoodSelective@reddit
Hopefully Orban is immediately put on trial and sentenced to death, with execution being carried out immediately.
OGLikeablefellow@reddit
I for one loved how Vance went to endorse Orban and couldn't even get Trump to answer his phone for him, lol