My experience working at Signature Aviation and why it Sucks
Posted by Mr_J_Rod@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 107 comments
To preface this, I am a commercial pilot with an instrument rating. I had taken a break before doing my CFI/Multi and wanted to work the Ramp to network and talk to pilots who had gotten a job at low hours to see if there’s anything else out there other than CFI.
Fast forward, I’m two weeks in working and on the last day of my week I was talking to this very nice pilot, having a good conversation and asking him what he did for work?. His job interested and didn’t require an insane amount of flight hours and so I asked if they were hiring? and the pilot didn’t mind me talking to him or answering my questions.
Well apparently my co worker over heard me and got extremely offended and that I asked the pilot if they were hiring . Made it a big deal and his reasoning was that “he was training me” even though I already knew what I was doing and frankly didn’t need to be trained on the task at hand . He went straight to my boss and pretty much told on me and I got written up.
Never was I late once , never did my job wrong, worked with a smile on my face and gave hospitality to every guest that came through the ramp. But they draw the line at me talking to a fellow pilot about his job.
TLDR: if you want to work at signature to network, make sure your coworker isn’t a snitch .
Thiccfrogg0@reddit
If it makes you feel any better i got a ramp job for av flight or alliegent but they wouldnt really accept my availability and tried to have me commit to a 6 am start with split shifts and not even 20 hrs guaranteed a week. From where i live to the airport ever scheduled shift would have been 2 hrs of driving. 30 there back twice. And whatever hrs i signed would have been locked in for the next 4 months. I didnt go back
Murphy0317@reddit
Sure the pilot wasn’t annoyed and told the manager? 😂
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
100% sure he absolutely did not. Dude was chill and I didn’t take much of his time. Conversation was like 3 minutes long max😂🤙🏽
Rude_West_8967@reddit
Wait…. I don’t want to jeopardize your identity here but… your FBO isn’t in Missouri is it? Because I’m a low time corporate pilot who I had a nice convo with a line tech and he asked if my operation was hiring 🫢
ALTSCAP_ALTS_ALT@reddit
I am absolutely here for the tea lol
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
I’ll grab the popcorn for you buddy🍿!
Rangeexpert3@reddit
lol, the silence usually means yes.
TRex_N_Truex@reddit
I’m going to go against the grain here and tell you whoever snitched on you isn’t the only person pissed pff at you.
Background on that statement, I was a CFI, college degree, on a rocket to the regionals. Well, turns out instead I had to scramble in the years after the 08 financial crisis to stay in the industry. Got a job as a line guy at a mom and pop FBO. Found out if I did my job right and stayed positive, there were opportunities to one day be flying full time. Showed up everyday to do my job, made friends, kept my head down, did it for a couple years. Every day getting soaked in fuel, lav juice, grease, rain, snow, heat, wind, coffee, whatever, all of us on the line no matter our background did the work first and worried about everything else second.
About a year into the job there was a new line guy brought on, he had his commercial. We meet him and we find out very early on he’s a pilot first and a line guy second. Cool story bro, there’s actually three other pilots on the line service team that have been there a lot longer than you. This kid made sure we knew he’s only here temporarily because he’s going to be America’s Next Top Pilot. When we were all busting our ass on the line, he was just looking for a chance to bullshit with the transient pilots. Kid was brand new, thought he was getting the opportunity of a lifetime being able to network.
We absolutely resented him. He thought he was doing a great job, he was actually doing a severely average job based on his experience and line skill level. We always had other tasks to do, his next task was always to bullshit with the pilots. His attitude was this line work was beneath him because he was a pilot. He did his job when he had to, but the rest of the line department knew he didn’t think he was like the rest of us.
News flash, he’s just like the rest of us. Even the actual professional pilots saw it. Hate to say it but if you just started this job and you’re already showing people you got one foot out the door the first opportunity that comes, no one is going to like that. You say fellow pilot, nope, you’re a fellow line guy. You just don’t know it yet.
KITTYONFYRE@reddit
reading this I was like “well you have no idea how the interaction itself actually went, you know nothing about OP, but a good cautionary tale to be a good employee #1 (which the pilots will notice too!)”
and then OP replied and… ahhh… hmmm. yeah. not the humble attitude we want to see in aviation lol
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Just put the fries in the bag bro
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Sounds kinda personal buddy 🤷🏽♂️
TRex_N_Truex@reddit
Sounds like you don’t get it.
Dunno what else to tell you. Told you a personal story from the other side of the fence but you got it all figured out already.
Nice work you did, you’re gonna go far kid.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Sure will.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
You’re just not that guy pal.
ATrainDerailReturns@reddit
Hi! Newsflash
Jobs don’t like it when you use that job to actively try and leave that job within the first month of starting.
Shocker
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Networking and actively trying to leave are two separate things
ATrainDerailReturns@reddit
Yeah and your story reads massively as trying to leave, not networking.
It’s called subtlety and decorum. This industry is about PROFESSIONALISM. If you applied for a CFI or airline job they would probably ask you “what does professionalism mean to you? Give me a good example of when you prioritized professionalism?”
I am sure you are smart enough to know the correct answer isn’t “while being trained for my new line worker gig I got accused of talking up a captain and asking if they would hire me.” So guess what, you weren’t demonstrating professionalism.
If I can give you some advice, this industry rewards people that admit to their mistakes and outlines how they can improve and makes strides to do better. People denying the mistakes, refusing to take accountability, and blaming their company on social media is like the exact opposite of what airlines want btw.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Sounds like a personal opinion there buddy
ATrainDerailReturns@reddit
Sounds like your bosses opinion there buddy
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Guess what
N9NE_@reddit
You seem like the textbook definition of a pilot that possesses a hazardous attitude and a lack of the ability to hear what you don’t want to hear
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Is having two huge testicles considered a hazardous attitude?
Swimming_Way_7372@reddit
Just keep it out of the eyes of your coworkers. They will be jealous because you have a way out and to many line guys, thats as far as they'll ever get. Its a fantastic place to network just don't make it so obvious or you'll become "that guy" and they will resent you.
nolaflygirl@reddit
Signature should've explained to you, when you were hired, that they frown on pilots conversing w/ clients re clients' jobs, openings, etc., & that if you do, you'll be written up.
Since they didn't, can you gingerly & politely approach your boss & ask him why that wasn't mentioned during hiring? I would. And, depending on the answer & the vibes you get from him, you might suggest that since you weren't informed of that policy...would he please consider "forgiving" that first mistake, i.e., delete the write-up & give you another chance, now that you're aware of the policy.
No employee should be written up/reprimanded for violating a policy of which they weren't informed. Unless there's an employee handbook, outlining the company's policies, that you were expected to read & didn't. If so, then that's on you.
Otherwise, you, as a new employee, have the right to expect that you will be FULLY informed of ALL the rules, policies, etc., at the time of employment & not be reprimanded, formally or otherwise, for a policy about which you knew nothing. And don't trust that snitch w/ anything ever!
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Realistically, it’s not a reasonable expectation of the company to frown upon their employees to network . Everyone uses a job like this (not necessarily aviation related) as a stepping stone. You get in , get what you need , you get out.
nolaflygirl@reddit
I agree. You might've misunderstood me. I didn't say that companies should frown on this. Nor did I say that you should've expected the company to frown on this. What I said was that since THIS company obviously does, that YOU, & ALL employees there, have a RIGHT to EXPECT that you will be FULLY informed of ALL of their policies. Not that they should have this policy. Since they DIDN'T inform you, they should "forgive" this first infraction & delete the write-up.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
I agree, we on the same page lol.
nolaflygirl@reddit
You might find this interesting: Although I wasn't an employee, I encountered a nasty guy at a well-known luxury FBO who abruptly told me to leave the lobby one afternoon while I was chatting w/ a pilot who was waiting for his plane to be topped off. The pilot & I had a lot in common as we had both trained at the same a/p & had had the same DPE!
I hadn't flown in, that day, which I have in the past, bc it's usually on my route. Rather, I had driven there to see the flight school owner upstairs, who was a mutual friend of the pilot I knew who ran the Aviation Camp nearby, where I had just picked up my teen. But the flight school owner had left early, so I went back downstairs to the lobby to leave, & that's when the pilot & I started chatting.
He & I were the ONLY people in the HUGE lobby which had several tables, comfy chairs & sofas, & provided free coffee & snacks to customers & those associated w/ the school upstairs. The pilot & I had a cup of coffee each, & my child -- a well-behaved older teen -- who just sat there listening to the pilot & me comparing our common experiences, also got a cup of coffee & a cookie.
IDK who this rude employee was -- someone from the ground crew -- maybe a supervisor -- but I assume...especially since I'm female & was there w/ a teen...that he just couldn't fathom that I was a pilot & a customer of theirs when I FLY in! I felt like saying, "Hey, Bud, I'm a pilot, & your customer, & had official business here today! What's your problem?!"
I regretted not getting his name, but his approach to me took the pilot & me by surprise, & after he told me to leave, he swung around too fast for me to respond or see his name. I thought about going up to the front desk & asking the receptionist, but the other pilot & I were winding up our chat anyway bc we both had to go. In fact, when this rude ramp agent came inside the lobby from the ramp area (not from the front door where cars are parked) & walked up to us, we had both already gotten up from our chairs, to leave.
I even wondered if the receptionist had reported me as a loiterer, thinking that I had just wandered in -- which would be very unusual for someone not intimately connected to aviation to even know about the FBO, much less know how to get to it unless they had business there.
If it happens again, especially if I'm there gassing up, I'm going to report it to the owner. I'm still annoyed by it as you can tell. I even considered emailing the FBO owner to suggest that he tell his employees not to assume that someone in the lobby doesn't have business there just bc they didn't taxi up!
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
You’re 100% in your right to tell that guy off! Thats the one thing about some of these people’s in these FBO’s they’re miserable and get their kicks on trying to take it out on you. Sorry that happen.
nolaflygirl@reddit
Thank you! Sorry for your experience too!
False_Measurement843@reddit
I always thought a sitcom about line guys would make for great TV. The drama, incompetence and the number of just crazy people make for unreal stories.
Unfortunately that's just what that job is like, do your time and get the hell out.
NoDistribution9217@reddit
100%! Worker at an FBO for 7 years, was a great time with all of us (including CSR’s) being college kids, became good friends, and it was like spending all day with good buddies rather than a shit job.
Signature bought them out, brought in the corporate style management, and it became a shit show. Everyone dropping like flies (including long time customers) and they had a serious retention problem. Went from hiring quality people to anyone with a pulse and no brains. Luckily one of my friends who I worked with during my time there got a 135 job and later hooked me up so I peaced out.
Now I’m at a 121 and get to fly into that same airport and have Signature fuel us up. I’ll catch up with the line guys and they all say how much they hate Signature!
False_Measurement843@reddit
Retention for line service is a pretty wide spread problem.
The place I worked attracted so many nut jobs- a combo of mental health and substance abuse issues. Ever seen anyone fall asleep towing an airplane? Ever have a coworker claim to be former Delta Force/SEAL/USAF para rescue/ business pilot depending on the day? Ever have a coworker get baked and fuel a cessna 421 with jet fuel resulting in a crash?
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
I know that’s right!😂🤙🏽
lil_layne@reddit
There’s a lot of reasons why Signature Aviation sucks, and your coworker is a loser for trying to get you in trouble because you asked people if they were hiring. With that being said, you should probably be more discreet about trying to network for other jobs while you are working a job that you started 2 weeks ago. There are not many employers that will like that. That is not exclusive to Signature Aviation.
EezyBake@reddit
Was gonna say the same thing. Network, do what you have to do, and get out.
But from an employer standpoint, they’re not gonna like it. Like they just hired you, they don’t want you to leave just yet
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Yea that’s fair
Anthem00@reddit
I think you are misguided here. You are hired to do your job. You might think it’s a stepping stone by networking and such. But you asking whether someone is hiring while doing your job reeks of your unprofessionalism. Yeah you can network and get contacts. And we all know how that works. But outright asking whether they are hiring while you are on the job - that’s crossing the line. I’m not in that space but can totally see you deserve yo be written up.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Idk if you can read. I did my job . And I’m 100% gonna move on to a better job in this economy 😂
N9NE_@reddit
If you’re so confident in your abilities why’re you not at a better job?
Anthem00@reddit
You may have done your job but you also overstepped the bounds of what you are allowed to be doing in your job. But it’s apparently that you just don’t get it. Asking someone else to get hired away is not acceptable in any working environment. But you don’t seem to understand that.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Ramp doesn’t pay enough for me to care
Rangeexpert3@reddit
You posted on reddit, which basically means you are going to get other people's opinions and possibly someone that says that were in the wrong. You can either take it as a life lesson when they try to give you one, or not care. In this case you did not do your job. Doing your job isn't just doing what you have to do and the scope stops there. Then if that were the case, you could do everything you should be doing and cuss out the customers too. You still did your job right?
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Calm down Jamal, don’t pull out the 9
Rangeexpert3@reddit
What's wrong with pulling out a 9 incher from subway? People have to eat you know.
Jaggent@reddit
Im still mid training (EASA) and have been on the ramp for a legacy for 4 years now, and I still dont know how to network with the pilots...
Idk, something tells me they dont want a rampie walking up to them going "hey im a pilot too can I get a job", I just dont know how to make it seem natural in the 2 minutes they are down here with me for the walkaround.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Im not familiar with EASA regulations but sometimes it’s just building your own experiences up to the minimums and getting pointed in the right direction . Light hearted small talk goes a long way and if you love to talk networking is easy
Jaggent@reddit
We dont have the 1500hr mins, once you have your CPL MEIR, ATPL written, MCC and UPRT, you can apply to the airlines (so mins are somewhere near the 250h mark, cant remember exactly).
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Awesome! Yea man just put yourself out there and don’t let anyone make you feel dumb for it! Start small and build up
Jaggent@reddit
Alright then, I will try my best! I just dont want to be "that guy" that just speaks with the pilots because he wants a easier way in, I do genuinely like those guys.
I have jumpseated in the flight deck a few times while non-revving and thats usually a good start because the question of "do you fly" always comes up from either the left or right seat, but hasnt really landed any connections so to speak because I was quite early in the process at that point.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Fair! I won’t talk to one that’s clearly busy but if they’re not and just hanging around I sometimes break the ice with a light joke like, “what’re the chances you taking me on a joy ride in this thing?” And go from there😂.
Jaggent@reddit
Hahahah thats a good one!
TuckNT340@reddit
He Snitched because either
A) he’s trying to network into a job
B) he’s jealous after watching plenty of others work line to get a pilot job- but knows that his current job is the top of his market.
Only place I like less than signature is Atlantic.
I’d rather mom and pop.. but not always an option.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Yea that’s what I think too
Rangeexpert3@reddit
Your coworker being a snitch has nothing to do with working at signature or not, you would have the same snitching situation no matter where you were working if that person was a snitch. This wouldn't be a signature specific situation. What I will say is that you have to look at this from both sides. It isn't always just about you. If you ran any company as a manager, owner, being an FBO, airlines, insert any job that requires at least some training as far as procedures go to learn how they do it their way. I'm pretty sure anybody wouldn't appreciate that. If you were at an interview and you told the person interviewing you that your goal was to get out of there as quick as possible. The next job that comes along you are gone, even if it means you aren't even done training yet and that you are here to network and talk to people coming through to get your next job ASAP. I'm pretty sure you would not even be considered for the job from that point forward. Plus its the companys, and training persons time used to interview you, schedule you, arrange training, then actually training you. Then to top it off, you didn't even have the consideration to not do any of this off the clock, off their property, or at a bare bare minimum not within earshot of your trainer? At that point it wouldn't matter how well you did your job.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Just put the fries in the bag
Rangeexpert3@reddit
Sounds like you dont want to try it because you know i'm right.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Guess what
Rangeexpert3@reddit
Chicken Butt
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
You beat me too it lol😂
Rangeexpert3@reddit
LMAO
Eastern-Milk-7121@reddit
A bit petty on their part for snitching on you but also I could be them also being frustrated that the petty are assigned to train is already looking to leave potentially and probably feels like a waste of time training you then. I’ve been on both ends of this but training someone who is asking about other jobs kind of does suck especially depending on the size of the ramp your work on they pull anyone who’s just more senior than you to train you. Which makes sense but usually those people have things setup for them at a certain stage and they probably are chilling though out the day or have their own work setup that works for them. All that being said it’s literally what you make of it. If you want to stay and make a career with them then take it seriously but you got all those ratings and a goal you want outside of the them so just ignore it.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Thats understandable, but he didn’t even have me a warning and went straight for my literal BOSS😂and It wasn’t like if I got offered a job I would take off my vest , throw it on the ground and fly the plane as soon as the job was offered.😂
Rangeexpert3@reddit
So you're telling me if you got offered a job flying that corporate plane but you had to start tomorrow, you wouldn't take it?
ElPayador@reddit
You will be gone flying and he will be there in the ramp looking at the sky and hearing you on the radio saying Goodbye 👋
hellswaters@reddit
Or if you really want to rub it in. Fly into the FBO and be 'that pilot'. Not in a rush then want everything just before departure. Or the worst I saw, plane left out overnight in snow. Takes hangar to melt it. Then the "snow was melting unevenly" so wanted the plane turned around in the hangar (we have a snow room for a reason). Or ask to cold soak the hangar. So some ultra specific catering order.
Or fly in and take the high road and act like nothing happened. But they will remember and that's probably the sweetest revenge.
scofnerf@reddit
Love when pilots ask me to turn their jet around to melt the frost off the other wing 😂.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Facts!
Eastern-Milk-7121@reddit
True, some people just be tripping
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Right!😂
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Also, working on the ramp as a pilot is like working at a McDonald’s except the only redeemable part is networking.
Eastern-Milk-7121@reddit
Ramp is pretty fun though not going to lie.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
It is
WntrWltr@reddit
FWIW I started as a line service tech at one of the big three while getting my A&P, and I now work for them as an aircraft maintenance manager on a Gulfstream. It's possible to play the game and get to where you want to be but you have to play their game...
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
True🤙🏽🔥
RuthlessGravy@reddit
What other FBOs are at your field or nearby fields? Signature might get the most traffic, but I typically view it as the lowest quality FBO with the most transient, non-local customers. The Signature is like that gas station right off the highway exit. The local FBO will be like the coffee shop downtown. Less traffic but probably more local and tight-knit.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
I wish there was another cause I heard a Ma and Pa FBO is usually the way to go.
scofnerf@reddit
In all industries, I typically favor mom and pop over corporate. I stumbled into a job running the line at a small FBO in a desirable mountain destination. Tiny infrastructure, eccentric clientele. No high vis, no wing walkers. Just me standing around in my jeans and flannel, hanging out with owner/operators, billionaires, and GA cowboys.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Based🤙🏽🔥
two_minutes_out@reddit
This is so true. The unfortunate part of this equation is that Signature is the “Fox Books” of the aviation world. Corporate, pilot rewards, usually new (ish) facilities and being a nationwide brand means it’s recognized. This typically eventuality puts the mom and pop FBO’s out of service.
I never use signature unless there’s no other option. Sadly when there’s no other option, we reluctantly use signature.
I love a good “grandparents house from the 70’s” FBO. The people are always 10/10 and the facilities, while dated, are almost always clean. Even if you do have to flush the pink toilet from the 1950’s twice ha. There are still some gems out there but you have to search for them. Triple points if they have T shirts for sale.
Whenever the day comes and I’m done flying and “retired” I always thought that running a small local FBO on a small field would be such a kickass retirement gig.
That is if the world doesn’t nuke itself in the next 40 years and we still have GA. :/
RuthlessGravy@reddit
I work for a large 91K operator, and I much prefer the local or small chain FBOs rather than the big ones. To hell with Tailwins, you'll get much more friendly and prompt service from the small FBOs.
two_minutes_out@reddit
💯💯💯
redditburner_5000@reddit
Sound like a good general life lesson.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Sure was 😂
_FROOT_LOOPS_@reddit
This is unfortunately just how ~10-20% of ramp rats are, signature or otherwise. I made some pretty good friends at my old fbo job, commiserating about our coworkers who sucked in a very similar way.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
It’s funny because a separate egotistical coworker who was a student pilot, she tried to tell me “did you really expect to work here just to get a pilot job?” And I looked at her like she was just retarded because that’s exactly how a lot of pilots find a job😂
320sim@reddit
To be honest, she’s not crazy. It’s a great place to meet people, but it’s definitely not a magical place where there’s just jobs going around. I’ve yet to meet anyone who found a low time job on a newly minted commercial cert by working at an FBO.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
She actually is cause I got pilots that are willing to give me recommendations to join their part 91 operation😂 it’s a good place to network it’s just the moral of the story is to be very discreet when doing so because your coworkers are not your friends
MundaneHovercraft876@reddit
You’re going to say that signature sucks because of one guy?
Sounds like just that guy sucks.
I can see why the manager had to write you up if you’re actively trying to find a new job when they just hired you but Id make it clear to your coworker you guys are not friends lol
MundaneHovercraft876@reddit
u/mr_j_rod is there a reason you deleted your reply to me
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
I didn’t?
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Yes 👁️👄👁️ And your opinion is that of a retarded hooker banging her head on signatures fat cock.
JerryWagz@reddit
It’s all good man. It’s a line job and doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
You’re such a chad
slamchowda27@reddit
I’m finding this might just be par for the course. I work at an FBO in northwestern New England and the managerial team is appalled that myself and the other pilots working there as line techs don’t want to be lifers and are looking at pilot jobs.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
Right!😂
BagOfMoneyNoChange@reddit
"Hmm ok. I quit."
OrionX3@reddit
Not a fan of signature in general but this is more one guy’s ego than signature.
I did line work at a mom and pop FBO and I mean the pat was horrific but I really enjoyed the work and met a lot of awesome folks. Also gave me some skills I didn’t know I’d need, but when I got hired for my corporate job they said my line experience was one reason why. Since we do all our own dueling and tug operations
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
That’s so baller🤙🏽
GoobScoob@reddit
I don’t want people risking their jobs just to chat with me but it’s usually a highlight of my trip whenever I encounter some enthusiastic and motivated new pilot. Don’t let some cranky coworker ruin that for you, but don’t get fired either.
Mr_J_Rod@reddit (OP)
That’s fair!, and I love talking to pilots , can’t wait to get back in the skies brother 🤙🏽
Persistent_Phoenix19@reddit
I worked at what was Jet Aviation (now Atlantic) at IAD after college and my supervisor counseled because “you were standing in an unprofessional manner and being too friendly with pilots.” I’m sorry, but aren’t we supposed to be friendly as “Customer Service Representatives??”
0621Hertz@reddit
From the point of view of an asshole supervisor, there is a difference between being “friendly” and being “chummy.”
While yes you’re supposed to be nice to your customers, you’re also not supposed to speak to anyone in a sense to initiate conversation unless you’re spoken to first.
This is “the help” protocol and unfortunately supervisors at Atlantic/Signature view their ramp crew this way.
Persistent_Phoenix19@reddit
100%! We did the “welcome to Jet!” speech when people walked in but, as someone who knows aviation and is extroverted, found it easy to talk to people. I kept it professional, always, but my read of the situation 12 years on is that she had been there (in 2014) for like 5 or 6 years and I think felt threatened by someone straight out of college who knew the industry better than she did and was trying to put me in my place, so to speak.
0621Hertz@reddit
That person sucks.
Persistent_Phoenix19@reddit
They were not my favorite supervisor, but you know what? Having had the opportunity to supervise and mentor several people out of undergrad over the last 2-3 years, my guess is that some of the things I dealt with, she was dealing with as well. I still find her reasoning ridiculous, but so are some recent graduates I’ve met lol.
rFlyingTower@reddit
This is a copy of the original post body for posterity:
To preface this, I am a commercial pilot with an instrument rating. I had taken a break before doing my CFI/Multi and wanted to work the Ramp to network and talk to pilots who had gotten a job at low hours to see if there’s anything else out there other than CFI.
Fast forward, I’m two weeks in working and on the last day of my week I was talking to this very nice pilot, having a good conversation and asking him what he did for work?. His job interested and didn’t require an insane amount of flight hours and so I asked if they were hiring? and the pilot didn’t mind me talking to him or answering my questions.
Well apparently my co worker over heard me and got extremely offended and that I asked the pilot if they were hiring . Made it a big deal and his reasoning was that “he was training me” even though I already knew what I was doing and frankly didn’t need to be trained on the task at hand . He went straight to my boss and pretty much told on me and I got written up.
Never was I late once , never did my job wrong, worked with a smile on my face and gave hospitality to every guest that came through the ramp. But they draw the line at me talking to a fellow pilot about his job.
TLDR: if you want to work at signature to network, make sure your coworker isn’t a snitch .
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