False FAA Hotline Report — Seeking Advice & Similar Experiences
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I received my 1st class medical August 2024 and reported all of my medical information on MedExpress and to my AME. Prior to submitting my MedExpress, my now ex, who is also a pilot, told me not to disclose anything. I didn’t go with their advice and disclosed everything. I received my Blue Ribbon file which gave more details regarding the report and it was clearly my ex due to timing, probable cause, knowing my detailed medical information, and being very bitter after the breakup.
In February I received a letter requesting more information stating a hotline report was made stating I had a disqualifying and unreported heart condition. Fortunately, I kept detailed records and screenshots of my MedXPress submission, which clearly show that I did disclose this condition. I received my Blue Ribbon file which gave more details regarding the report and it was clearly my ex due to timing, probable cause, knowing my detailed medical information, and being very bitter after the breakup.
In March, I received a letter to Voluntarily Surrender my medical. I’ve worked closely with my doctors and legal counsel to ensure that all documentation is complete, accurate, and submitted to the FAA.
I was just about to complete my CPL when this happened, so this has been incredibly frustrating and discouraging. From what I’ve been told, the current FAA review timeline can range anywhere from 8 months to 2+ years.
That said, I do feel cautiously optimistic. I’ve completed all requested testing, my documentation reflects that my condition is stable, and everything has been submitted in full. I’m hoping this may help my case be resolved on the shorter end of the timeline and potentially result in a special issuance rather than a denial, but I understand that ultimately it’s up to the FAA’s review process.
I’m trying to stay proactive both in continuing my aviation path where possible and figuring out employment in the meantime but the uncertainty has been tough.
My questions:
• Has anyone here dealt with an FAA hotline report specifically?
• If so, what was it for? What was your timeline? What was the end result?
• Did it impact your timeline compared to a normal medical deferral?
• Is there anything that helped move your case along faster?
• Any general advice for navigating this process?
• Are there any repercussions for submitting false hotline reports? I am all for aviation safety but I think is unfair to be able to submit false reports to try to ruin someone’s career.
I’d really appreciate hearing others’ experiences whether good or bad. Thanks in advance! :)
(TLDR: Reported all medical info on my FAA application → ex filed a hotline report claiming I didn’t → FAA requested more info, then I “voluntarily” surrendered my medical → all documentation/tests now submitted and show I’m stable → working with an attorney and hoping for a special issuance, but facing an 8 month–2 year timeline. Looking for others’ experiences with hotline reports and any advice.)
YokeMeDaddy@reddit
I’m the veteran of 3 false hotline reports. Those who know who I am probably can infer where a couple of them came from. The first time was terrifying, but over time they became a nothing burger, and I’m still flying.
In my case one was at the FSDO level and two were at the Aeromedical level. All resolved within a couple months and I never was grounded in the process.
I have two bits of advice for you from what I’ve learned. Firstly, you can submit documents via email to your regional flight surgeon’s office. It’s sometimes the fastest way as opposed to having to mail things in or go through your AME. If you have received a letter asking for more information, call the regional flight surgeons office and from there upload anything that needs uploading.
Second. If you’ve submitted absolutely everything and there’s nothing else for you to submit, contact your senator and congressman’s office. Specifically you’re looking for “Help with a Federal Agency” and sometimes is under “Constituent Services”. They can reach out to the FAA on your behalf, and when they do, it will cause your file to be prioritized. After all is said and done, you should hopefully have your new medical issued (and this case closed) within a week of you contacting your senator’s office for assistance.
This really won’t be a huge deal for you. Send me a message if you need help. I’ve navigated this a bit too many times and now am helping other people with the same thing.
yourlocalFSDO@reddit
Fancy seeing you here, what happened to your IG? Ole Chippy take you down? TFAYD
YokeMeDaddy@reddit
Wasn’t good ole Chippy believe it or not. Moreso enough people figured out who I was in real life that I decided to take a break for a bit until I’m off probation at my destination airline.
Then the guys who came after me last year will await a special punishment. Two of the three are already no factor at this point (one was banned from Instagram and fired from his airport job, the other lost his medical), but the remaining guy who picked a fight with me is a rabid dog that needs to be subdued.
Once he’s no longer a threat to me, my page, or my career, it’ll be safe to return. I know I sound a bit extreme, but he’s tried to get me fired from my current job, got my friends at his (now previous) airline drug tested as an intimidation tactic, spread some untrue rumors about me around, and a bunch of other nasty stuff. He’d stop at nothing. But he will one day mess up badly enough to where he will lose everything, and it will all be his own doing. When that happens, I’ll be back and safely stick up for the community again.
hawker1172@reddit
Wonder if the person who reported you lost his medical…
YokeMeDaddy@reddit
I think it was his best friend (and butt buddy) who did. The fact that 2.5 weeks later he lost his medical after them reporting me for mine was karma doing its thing.
hawker1172@reddit
Hilarious. Pawlot life
YokeMeDaddy@reddit
focus baby
NecessaryPositive236@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much for your response! I’m so sorry you’ve been through this 3 times!! Mines on the Aeromedical Level and was 30 pages of documentation so apparently it had to be mailed in. That’s great news that yours were resolved so quickly! How long was your Aeromedical case open? My attorney requested an extension and the FAA denied it. My doctor works 3 days a month so I could only get an appointment on the last day of my timeline and couldn’t get the documentation in time, resulting in me getting grounded :(
I would love to talk to you more about contacting congressmen and senators. Every single thing that was requested was sent in together so I think this would be the next best step. What did you say when you contacted them? Was it via phone, email, or mail? How long did you wait until contacting them? Hearing your cases were closed so quickly gives me hope! Thank you so much for your help!! :)
Ok-Selection4206@reddit
Also, are you the one submitting or have you hired an Aero Medical Advisor? Most pilot unions have one on retainer for medical issues but they work with anyone. I was waiting 3 mos after my AME submitted for me without a word from the FAA, when another pilot suggested I talk to our union Doctor. After signing the release he called me back in 2-3 hours telling me I was going to be denied because of failing a required test I didn't know about. He then told me exactly what I needed to do to satisfy the FAA. ( he previously was the head of the FAA Aero Medical) I rescheduled the test and resubmited and received my medical 30 days later.
NecessaryPositive236@reddit (OP)
Yeah I’m still in flight school so no union unfortunately but my attorney personally submitted my documents to the regional office. Congratulations on getting your case resolved quickly though!
YokeMeDaddy@reddit
Doesn’t appear he’s at an airline where he’s got a union with an aeromedical committee that can help. Since he mentioned he was waiting to get his commercial cert, I think he’s still GA.
The good news is I happen to be the de facto aeromedical guy on my company’s union, and so I’m willing to help OP out with whatever tribal knowledge I can give to get his case moved up. The only thing I can’t help him with is access to AMAS, but it doesn’t seem like that would be needed here.
YokeMeDaddy@reddit
My case wasn’t open too long, I uploaded everything I could within the timeline they requested so I was able to get back up and running pretty quickly without being grounded.
Call your regional flight surgeons office ASAP. You can liaise with them directly. Don’t know if they’d give an extension at this point but you certainly can upload documents to them via email in PDF format and they can upload it to Oklahoma City for any future uploads. That way no more sending things in.
Since you’ve already gone the route of sending in what’s required, look up the two senators for your state, and your congressperson for your address. On all of their websites, look up their constituent services link, and you want to click “Help with a Federal Agency” or whatever is similarly titled. Fill out their privacy release form and send everything in. Within a couple days they will contact the FAA on your behalf and prioritize the case.
Given it’s at the point where you’ve uploaded everything in and all they have to do is make a decision, it should be a slam dunk and you’d be approved then and there with a new medical sent to you, and an authorization letter with instructions on complying with your special issuance for future medicals.
NecessaryPositive236@reddit (OP)
Thank you SO much for all that information!! I will definitely do all of that ASAP. Can I message you if anything else comes up? I really appreciate your help & advice :)
YokeMeDaddy@reddit
Absolutely. Send me a message anytime.
SRM_Thornfoot@reddit
Since she is a pilot, she needs to lose her flying privileges forever. I know I don’t ever want that attitude in my cockpit.
unfortunatetourista@reddit
The ex is a dude.
SRM_Thornfoot@reddit
Thanks, I did not see that in the post but I changed it.
NecessaryPositive236@reddit (OP)
I’m impressed you gathered that but that is correct!
NecessaryPositive236@reddit (OP)
I really hope that is the case. A malicious, angry, impulsive, and frankly evil pilot is not one I’d want to trust my life with either and I know for a fact airlines wouldn’t tolerate that behavior. Perhaps this will be a delayed karma situation
One-Cauliflower-8770@reddit
Can you FOIA them and then Sue for damages and defamation ?
Mobe-E-Duck@reddit
Did your ex know you did not hide your medical info? If so they’ve filed a false report with malicious intent. Extremely actionable. You may be a kind, charitable type but I personally would consider suing. False medical / hotline reports have derailed careers and there should be zero tolerance.
NecessaryPositive236@reddit (OP)
They were with me when I filled out my form and I did tell them I disclosed it. I fully agree that there needs to be consequences for malicious actions like this. What exactly would I be able to sue? Defamation? Perjury? I don’t know what this would fall under.
Mobe-E-Duck@reddit
Filing a false report. 18 USC 1001. Having done so knowingly and with clear intention to cause harm means it then falls under many civil violations potentially.
shrunkenhead041@reddit
Kids, read and learn, don't get involved with crazy. Run.
80KnotsV1Rotate@reddit
And yet, they still keep marrying the flight attendants.
NecessaryPositive236@reddit (OP)
The ex in question here is a male pilot … turns out anyone can be crazy and go feral after a breakup 🤷♀️
Early-Jellyfish3926@reddit
During flight training in the 90s, a roommate found my prescribed painkillers in the bathroom, left over from oral surgery, and reported me to the FAA for taking narcotics. Thankfully, my other roommate immediately tipped me off. On my AME's advice, I stopped flying and contacted the FAA proactively. A few weeks later they confirmed by phone it was a "nuisance" report and cleared me to keep flying, followed up with a letter. It set my training back about a month. The self-appointed safety inspector had to find a new place to live.
Patient_Honey5483@reddit
One way to expedite the process is to get in front of a FAA decision maker in person. I have heard of this happening at EAA Airventure, but maybe the FAA Medical folks also attend Sun n Fun (which is in a few days). It is worth a shot. Take hard copies of everything with you for them to review on site. I have heard stories of folks (who had been waiting months for a response) having their information reviewed and their medicals issued onsite at the air show. Best of luck to you and so sorry this happened.
5m3ff@reddit
Lawyer up honestly
NecessaryPositive236@reddit (OP)
I did right away. My attorney has been super helpful but now that everything is submitted they’re saying that’s all I can do. At 3+ months they say I can contact a Congressman and ask them to speed up the review process and it allegedly may help. Has anyone done that? Or any other advice to expedite?
YokeMeDaddy@reddit
No need to wait 3 months to contact a congressman. I got mine involved the day after I submitted all my docs on my most recent nuisance complaint. I received my new authorization letter before the weekend started that very week.
This being said I had another nuisance complaint in 2023 that I didn’t involve my congressman for, and had a turnaround time of about 2 months. They said they prioritized airline guys who were actively flying over GA.
sr15enjoyer@reddit
Friend of mine was falsely reported for rape, got fired from his dream airline. Rip
Throwawayyacc22@reddit
Absolutely terrible to hear, false accusations of rape should be punished severely, when a false accusation like that is made, it waters down actual accusations that happened and now everyone is more skeptical, sorry about your friend, that’s extremely tough and entirely unfair.
NecessaryPositive236@reddit (OP)
Ugh that really sucks! :( did they investigate the claim? Is he still able to fly elsewhere?
YokeMeDaddy@reddit
Reported to the FAA or his own airline?
usd2bfast@reddit
OP has a medical condition that requires a SI but didn’t have a SI? And OP has an ex that reported him on the hotline regarding that condition? What was the condition? Over the last 20 years I’ve had 2 pilots have to take drug tests because an ex called, or had someone else call, the hotline and claim drug use, cocaine in both instances. Both pilots were going thru custody battles with their ex’s, both of the ex’s were FAs who knew the system, and both pilots were quickly cleared and told not to sweat it.
NecessaryPositive236@reddit (OP)
The condition is sinus tachycardia and is very mild and controlled with medication. Both of those factors were disclosed to my AME and I was issued my 1st class medical day of. It’s a shame ex’s can be so bitter and want to ruin careers over hurt feelings. I’m glad both those pilots got cleared though!
Ok-Selection4206@reddit
Truthfully, it's a little surprising that your AME was able to issue for that. It usually requires some testing with an EP (Electophysiologist Cardiologist)....( ask me how I know) to determine the extent and all the results forwarded to OKC for review. It can take a while.
ltcterry@reddit
Sue the ex. For list lifetime earnings. Get a deposition that explains the lie.
Or you can call the hotline too. Though I would discourage that.
NecessaryPositive236@reddit (OP)
I would absolutely love to take him down. I just can’t afford any more attorney fees rn🤦♀️ I do love those ideas though! I appreciate the good luck wishes
rFlyingTower@reddit
This is a copy of the original post body for posterity:
I received my 1st class medical August 2024 and reported all of my medical information on MedExpress and to my AME. Prior to submitting my MedExpress, my now ex, who is also a pilot, told me not to disclose anything. I didn’t go with their advice and disclosed everything. I received my Blue Ribbon file which gave more details regarding the report and it was clearly my ex due to timing, probable cause, knowing my detailed medical information, and being very bitter after the breakup.
In February I received a letter requesting more information stating a hotline report was made stating I had a disqualifying and unreported heart condition. Fortunately, I kept detailed records and screenshots of my MedXPress submission, which clearly show that I did disclose this condition. I received my Blue Ribbon file which gave more details regarding the report and it was clearly my ex due to timing, probable cause, knowing my detailed medical information, and being very bitter after the breakup.
In March, I received a letter to Voluntarily Surrender my medical. I’ve worked closely with my doctors and legal counsel to ensure that all documentation is complete, accurate, and submitted to the FAA.
I was just about to complete my CPL when this happened, so this has been incredibly frustrating and discouraging. From what I’ve been told, the current FAA review timeline can range anywhere from 8 months to 2+ years.
That said, I do feel cautiously optimistic. I’ve completed all requested testing, my documentation reflects that my condition is stable, and everything has been submitted in full. I’m hoping this may help my case be resolved on the shorter end of the timeline and potentially result in a special issuance rather than a denial, but I understand that ultimately it’s up to the FAA’s review process.
I’m trying to stay proactive both in continuing my aviation path where possible and figuring out employment in the meantime but the uncertainty has been tough.
My questions:
I’d really appreciate hearing others’ experiences whether good or bad. Thanks in advance! :)
(TLDR: Reported all medical info on my FAA application → ex filed a hotline report claiming I didn’t → FAA requested more info, then I “voluntarily” surrendered my medical → all documentation/tests now submitted and show I’m stable → working with an attorney and hoping for a special issuance, but facing an 8 month–2 year timeline. Looking for others’ experiences with hotline reports and any advice.)
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