I'm thinking of an upgrade, but...
Posted by TaienV@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 17 comments
I've currently got:
Ryzen 9 5900X (AM4 socket)
Nvidia RTX 3080
64GB DDR4 4266
All M.2 drives
When I search newegg for parts, I'm starting with the processor. And the first thing I notice using benchmark sites is that the theoretical "upgrade" to my processor (9900X) is only like 15% faster in benchmarks, but costs upwards of 500 bucks. So the only difference would seem to be the slot type, but not much actual processing benefit. Then because I have to get a different slot, I need a new mobo and memory. Is this all just a giant throwaway scam by processor companies to get us to further waste resources by requiring "upgrades" that are really just a different slot type?
I'd have no problem upgrading for this astronomical cost if there was real improvement in performance...but right now it seems like companies want me to buy the same exact product with a higher price tag on it because they've made the slot incompatible for no reason. Am I wrong in this feeling?
jhaluska@reddit
Nobody is forcing you to upgrade, I would just wait.
TaienV@reddit (OP)
I'm mostly worried about the gaming performance, but maybe I can just get a new graphics card and that will be enough.
jhaluska@reddit
I can't think of any games that your system wouldn't play, but yeah a GPU upgrade is always an option.
XiTzCriZx@reddit
What benchmark sites are you using? For gaming the 9900X isn't the cpu you'd want, it's the 9600X3D or 9800X3D which have some pretty large performance increases from the 5900X.
If you want to upgrade for productivity uses then you have to look up benchmarks specifically for the programs you use.
TaienV@reddit (OP)
userbenchmark and cpubenchmark, by all means give me a "best" recommendation
XiTzCriZx@reddit
The easiest comparison would be to look at video benchmarks where people test the CPU's with the same graphics cards in multiple games. Those sites base the performance purely off of synthetic benchmarks which don't translate well to real world performance.
This is a good example, though you'll want to check multiple videos to make sure the results are similar as there are sometimes testing differences.
Regular reviews of the 9800X3D (both videos and articles) often have benchmarks against older CPU's as well.
Gold-Load-362@reddit
The 7000 series only showed about a 15% IPC performance uplift over it's equivalent AM4 part. The 9000 series only added about another 15% on top of that.
It is why I am still on AM4. (Ryzen 9 5950, 128gb ram, WS-X570-ACE motherboard)
To move to the equivalent AM5 platform, it would have cost about $1500, and that was before the ramapocolypse, and assumes that I could find an AM5 board that could bifuricate my PCIe lanes.
Now, it would be closer to $3000; for a 30% IPC increase, that is simply insane.
TaienV@reddit (OP)
Yeah I'm not able to justify the cost-to-benefit ratio at this time, I mostly just need a faster graphics card but maybe I can run that on my current system.
running_wired@reddit
Congrats, you just found out Moore's Law is dead. Gone are the days of upgrading or doing complete rebuilds every 3-4 years and seeing massive performance improvements.
Generational improvements are much less now and really the only way to see big gains is to increase TDP.
TaienV@reddit (OP)
Bummer, good to know
New_Mix_2215@reddit
It should definitively be better then 15% in benchmarks. But it depends on workload. Honestly, check out x3d CPUs, they are sometimes really good. I changed from a 5900x to a 9800x3d in my main PC myself. Works amazing for the games i play, and really compiles anything i need to compile really well.
TaienV@reddit (OP)
roger, thanks
aragorn18@reddit
What are you using your computer for?
TaienV@reddit (OP)
Gaming, streaming, sometimes video editing and music composition using After Effects and FL Studio
4lbertGG@reddit
5900x is not good for gaming because it's two ccds with 6 cores each, I would change it for a 5800x3d or 5700x3d
prank_mark@reddit
There was actually a good reason to stop supporting AM4, and that's the introduction of DDR5 on AM5. And nobody is requiring you to upgrade from one of the best AM4 processors. And when you bought the 5900X it was already known that it would be the last AM4 generation.
Geek_Verve@reddit
You're in a good situation to hold off for the next generation of hardware. I just sold a system with a 3900X that was still gaming strong with my 3070ti.