The B-50B No. 47-118 with a Track Landing Gear, tested in 1949 to 1950
Posted by Xeelee1123@reddit | WeirdWings | View on Reddit | 67 comments
Posted by Xeelee1123@reddit | WeirdWings | View on Reddit | 67 comments
RugbyEdd@reddit
So it's technically a flying halftrack?
agha0013@reddit
they tried these on the B-36 as well.
Insanely complex pile of hardware that didn't help tremendously, just way more bits and pieces to break.
Rooilia@reddit
Looks very heavy in comparison too.
Sha77eredSpiri7@reddit
Believe it or not, the tracked gear were actually LIGHTER compared to traditional tires! The ones on the B-36 were atleast, not sure how similar they are to the ones on the B-50B
Muted_Will_2131@reddit
Is the track itself lighter, or the entire system with rollers, levers, and shock absorbers? I highly doubt the latter. Besides, at high speeds, the track tends to form a ring (you can't fool physics), which means it will experience significant tensile stress.
pumpkinfarts23@reddit
The entire system. B-36 had single giant rubber tires that were very heavy.
Modern multi wheel landing gear, like on a widebody airliner, have a lot more in common with the track gear than the single giant wheel of the B-36.
Muted_Will_2131@reddit
I specifically Googled it... Yeah, it's a crazy idea with one giant wheel. But it was close to a prototype...
joeljaeggli@reddit
The b36 had the largest single aircraft tire
PowerOfEternity@reddit
I wonder how the tracks would have handled a stiff crosswind landing. My brain is telling me it would kick the belt right off.
critical_patch@reddit
I preferred the original design where the B-36 just had one massive tire 10 feet tall on each main
agha0013@reddit
That design was the worst though. Looked great but was terrible for operations.
critical_patch@reddit
Peacemaker-tire, Peacemaker-tire 10 feet tall weighs a fucking ton Runways beware, runways beware He’s landing, he’s landing, he’s landing
Luknron@reddit
But have you considered that it looks metal as fuck?
an_older_meme@reddit
There is that.
agha0013@reddit
yes, and so does the runway when it's got components scattered all over it.
Quadtbighs@reddit
Is this AI upscaled?
someguyfromsk@reddit
I can see why you would consider that for less than ideal landing strips, but my god that is a complicated solution.
Affectionate-Yak5280@reddit
Yeah you'd think skids or skis would spread the load the same with less complexity. Just replace the skids every 1 - 4 landings or something...
Sentient-burgerV2@reddit
Ai upscale?
trynared@reddit
Yep. Actual footage is grainy black-and-white.
https://youtu.be/Ef8J5k0O0WU
Ote-Kringralnick@reddit
That's not even bad resolution, they should have just kept the original
neat_klingon@reddit
But the original doesn't have that bitchin' music under it!
ryanidsteel@reddit
I felt that too. The close up video of the tracks sure looks upscaled
TeddyBinks@reddit
Kinda looks like it was upscaled to me, yes.
Evening-Ad5765@reddit
What’s the benefit of tracks v tires on an airplane?
Ornery_Year_9870@reddit
Just post the original footage instead of this AI slop.
ElvisDumbledore@reddit
Seems like more and bigger wheels would be just as effective and alot simpler. imo.
RandoDude124@reddit
I didn’t complete an engineering beyond freshman year of community college, but that looks like a mechanical nightmare
wthulhu@reddit
Im shocked it worked as well as it did. Half expected it to tear itself apart
ElvisDumbledore@reddit
Same. 100% would have expected it to explode on impact.
Strygan@reddit
Tracks at these speeds… maintenance should be no joke
alaskafish@reddit
So what was the reasoning behind this?
It just seems needlessly complicated, for what? Being able to land softer runways with heavier planes?
NF-104@reddit
Lowering runway contact pressure, first tried on the B-36. The original XB-36 main landing gear was a singular huge tire (preserved at the USAF museum), so heavy that only 4 airports in the US could support it. This led to trying a similar tracked MLG and eventually a two-axle MLG bogie.XB-36 track MLG
LightningFerret04@reddit
Those tires are almost as tall as Bigfoot 5’s which is insane
Syrdon@reddit
They're all of ten inches short of the Bigfoot 5 tires. They're also a foot narrower. 110 x 36 vs 120 x 48.
You'd notice the width difference even if they weren't side by side, but I honestly don't think you'd notice the height difference if they weren't next to each other.
bigloser42@reddit
So you are telling me that donks have almost caught up to the rim size of the B-36? What a world we live in.
LefsaMadMuppet@reddit
Especially for the B-36, the runways had to be extra thick to handle the weight. The original B-36 ha a single tire for each main wheel, they had to switch to four tires to address the issues.
digger250@reddit
Holy crap! Look at that wheel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKKbCp7ZWBc&t=145s
DESTRUCTI0NAT0R@reddit
Lol that's hilarious. I've seen one up close in person but this is hilarious how much of a giant blob at that distance they are.
DrShockola@reddit
It's amazing to see in person how large it truly is
Legitimate-Sky-6820@reddit
A yes, the famed b36 bomb wheels. Its wild they where even able to build those things.
kryptopeg@reddit
Precisely, gives you a lot more options on the strips available and where you can taxi/park. The thinking was that if/when a war breaks out, you wouldn't always have the luxury of big, well-prepared airfields with solid ground. It was a trial to see if they could gain more choice/flexibility in combat.
alaskafish@reddit
Sometimes my genius is almost frightening
RatherGoodDog@reddit
Or put metal plates under the wheels on the parking stands?
getdownheavy@reddit
Kind of like tundra tires, but for really big planes.
Imagine how much the US Military would love to be less dependent on airfields
n1elkyfan@reddit
That was the exact reason for why they tried it.
NoDoze-@reddit
Im curious how they managed the heat generated?
Northern_Wyven_63@reddit
ok, maintenance-wise this is a nightmare and likely dosent give too much benefit. but this is cool af
UmbraPenumbra@reddit
Warhammer tech
YearPractical5840@reddit
Aren't those stripped Sherman tanks?
Electrical_Report458@reddit
Is that Boeing Field?
Uranium-Sandwich657@reddit
r/MortalEngines vibes
RedditVirumCurialem@reddit
People are too negative, this is actually perfect for those occasions when you need to bring your strategic bomber with you on your camping trip.
Rooilia@reddit
Ah, the soft ground problem, i see.
SeeMarkFly@reddit
Trump could have used that last week.
HKTLE@reddit
Awesome
killer_marsupial@reddit
What was the purpose of that mini centerline trailing wheel?
recumbent_mike@reddit
Airspeed indicator for when you're on the ground
LightningGeek@reddit
It's most likely a ground speed indicator. Air speed indicators will work regardless of whether you are on the ground or not.
zoinkability@reddit
Maybe helped the tracks pivot if the airplane was landing at an angle? Just spitballing here.
LightningGeek@reddit
According to one caption on this, it seems like it was part of the test measuring equipment.
Most likely it would be measuring the actual ground speed of the aircraft. If you used the regular aircrafts probes, then you would only get air speed information, which would not be as useful, or as accurate.
nochinzilch@reddit
Another oddity like this is the 737-200, which has an optional gravel kit for landing on rougher strips. They still use them in Canada and Alaska.
Cautious_Buffalo6563@reddit
“You know what would be better than a single wheel or a pair of wheels on each landing gear? A super lot of wheels wrapped in a super knobby rubber track.”
Taptrick@reddit
That first shot is Thunderbirds type of stuff. I thought it was one of Brain’s machine rolling out if 2.
Xeelee1123@reddit (OP)
Source: https://youtu.be/KheAAAV748c
Source: https://www.tinker.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/1919691/history-of-aircraft-track-landing-gear/
Rooilia@reddit
Looks like having less break power too.
PE1NUT@reddit
Lots of break power, less brake power.