Team Joel or Team Mike?

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fyukhyu@reddit

I'm a Mike Nelson guy, but i found the show in the mid 90s on comedy central/sci-fi.

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Lance_Operazole@reddit

I got into it when Mike was on it so always preferred him.

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Jo-6-pak@reddit

Both.. they each brought a little different vibes.

Both is a totally acceptable answer

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NoOutlandishness906@reddit

I liked Joel's sense of humor a bit more than Mike's. But they were both funny

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Team Mike, mostly because of the bullshit that Joel pulled and paved the way for mst3k being taken away from the rest of the team and replacing the creative writing force that made the original popular. Joel may have helped found the show, but Mike and the rest were what made it great.

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Justkeeptalking1985@reddit

Mike, but mainly because I was late to the show and Mike was first for me.

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ralph_deadbeet@reddit

I grew up with Joel and so that's where my heart is. But I celebrate all things MST3K, including Mike's run!

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KazzyChan25@reddit

Team Joel. I was obsessed with this show as a kid. I went to dance school with the daughter of the hairdresser for MST3K and she got me tickets when they did a live show here in Minneapolis. I got to see Joel and the crew live and it was one of the best experiences I’ve ever had as a kid.

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ralph_deadbeet@reddit

Color me jelly!

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ferfocsake@reddit

I don’t know how many of those shows they did, but I was likely also at that show in Minneapolis, and I can confirm that it awesome!

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FoppyRETURNS@reddit (OP)

Wow, cool!!

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Dog_Baseball@reddit

Mike

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PuzzleheadedAbies678@reddit

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JazzlikeAd1555@reddit

I’m going mike and it’s because of the post mst3k rifftrax stuff. That’s some of the best versions of the movies

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fermentedradical@reddit

Yup Mike for me, I'm a fan of the Sci-Fi era, and I think the Mike, Kevin, and Bill partnership is the best. Rifftrax is also superb.

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WendyPortledge@reddit

Rifftrax was the only acceptable way to watch Twilight and The Room.

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Primary-Strawberry-5@reddit

Ever just watch the last Twilight movie with no context? It’s fucking hilarious and insane

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FoppyRETURNS@reddit (OP)

I took my wife in the theaters for that one and slept the whole movie. Highly recommended. 10/10.

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skalix@reddit

Girlfriend at the time tried to get me to watch the second one, twice. Never slept so well!

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_TenDropChris@reddit

Team Mike. I didn't start watching the show regularly until it was on the Sci-Fi channel.

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macklin_sob@reddit

Joel. Specifically with Trace and Kevin as the bots.

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Kellzy1212@reddit

Jonah.

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Googatz@reddit

It’s a tough one but Joel, I do love Mike though, also watch out for snakes.

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Weak_Radish966@reddit

I love em both but I gotta go with Joel.

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dishwasher_mayhem@reddit

TV's Frank.

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FoppyRETURNS@reddit (OP)

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ScreenTricky4257@reddit

Back in the day that question would have gotten you banned from RATMM.

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Zeveroth1@reddit

Joel

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JustOnesAndZeros@reddit

Think about it, won't you? Thank you

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Accurate_Use_2432@reddit

Team Square Master!
"Put two squares together to form a rectangle. Now you're really working out."

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Accurate_Use_2432@reddit

Joel 4-Eva!

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circusgeek@reddit

Joel, but only by a smidge. Mike is awesome too.

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Turbulent_Tale6497@reddit

Team Tom Servo

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Pinkkorn69@reddit

Team I have no idea who either of them are lol

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noonesaidityet@reddit

Whichever is on the episode I'm watching at the time.

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ezrapoundcakes@reddit

Team Joike

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AluminumApe@reddit

The only right answer. Bet it would look great on a sweater, too!

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-Benpachi-@reddit

Joel all day. Gamera, Fugitive Alien, Master Ninja, all things Sandy Frank...it's not even close.

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FoppyRETURNS@reddit (OP)

GAMERA LOVES CHILDREN!!

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Funkopedia@reddit

I wonder if preference for Joel/Mike/Whoever the current captive is correlates with age (or something else)

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Duckbites@reddit

To use a common phrase in another fandom,"you never forget your first Doctor"

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mikeyb1@reddit

Funny story about that, my wife and I knew nothing about Dr. Who when we started watching it with Chris Eccleston's Doctor....his regeneration was incredibly fucking traumatic for us.

And then David Tennant became *our* Doctor, anyway.

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milkymaniac@reddit

Some of us did not get turned onto it until Mike. It was a different world before widespread internet.

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MlsterFlster@reddit

Team Mike, all the way. Joel had some GREAT episodes. But Mike is the standout host.

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Ingonyama70@reddit

Honestly? Respect to Joel for inventing the concept but the Mike era really perfected it.

It's also a certain degree of bias since something about Joel's voice feels bad to listen to. (It's not his fault, I have mild autism)

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lookatthisface@reddit

Mike was funnier 🤷🏻‍♀️

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guyako@reddit

Considering the show wouldn’t exist without Joel (as the show’s creator), isn’t he the only right answer?

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VesDoppelganger@reddit

Team Mads, sirs.

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WeenisPeiner@reddit

Did anyone watch the show Other Space when it was on Yahoo? It was really funny and stared Joel as fittingly the ship Janitor and Trace Beaulieu as fittingly the ship robot.

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squarebodynewb@reddit

Why not conner?

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UndoxxableOhioan@reddit

Joel is great, but I prefer Mike’s jokes. Also, Space Mutiny and Lazerblast are my favorite episodes

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Livid_Accountant1241@reddit

Joel had the best episodes, but I find Mike to be more consistently funny.

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BillyDMountain@reddit

Mike but for me it's really about the bots.

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EvenLettuce6638@reddit

Girls, you're both pretty.

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majorjoe23@reddit

Team MST3K

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ethnicvegetable@reddit

I remember this fight on livejournal. I liked Joel's awkwardness but Mike was also fun. Jonah was fantastic.

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AZbitchmaster@reddit

Joel. He had a certain melancholy about him that could only be attributed to a man trapped in space.

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_MadGasser@reddit

Never heard of either of these clowns.

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Glittering-Stuff-599@reddit

Oh that’s no problem. Here is a quick explanation:

In the not-too-distant future --

Next Sunday A.D. --

There was a guy named Joel

Not too different from you or me

He worked at Gizmonic Institute

Just another face in a red jumpsuit

He did a good job cleaning up the place

But his bosses didn't like him

So they shot him into space

We'll send him cheesy movies

The worst we can find (la-la-la)

He'll have to sit and watch them all

And we'll monitor his mind (la-la-la)

Now keep in mind Joel can't control

Where the movies begin or end (la-la-la)

Because he used those special parts

To make his robot friends

Robot Roll Call: (All right, let's go!)

Cambot! (Pan left!)

Gypsy! (Hi, girl!)

Tom Servo! (What a cool guy!)

Croooow! (He's a wisecracker.)

If you're wondering how he eats and breathes

And other science facts (la la la)

Then repeat to yourself, "It's just a show

I should really just relax

For Mystery Science Theater 3000!"

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Glittering-Stuff-599@reddit

Joel is the reason the show exists. We wouldn’t have it without him.

When Joel left it was hard for me, it’s my favorite show ever. Of course I learned to like Mike and laughed along with his episodes.

Now that I’m older and understand more why Joel left I am glad he did. Of his heart was no longer in it then having him just phone it in would have ruined the magic of the show and we could have lost it much earlier.

I’m on both teams.

Joel gave us the best show ever.

Mike helped keep it alive.

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WendyPortledge@reddit

Honestly, I love Joel, but Mike is my preferred captive

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Old_Pitch_6849@reddit

I have tried to watch episodes with Mike, can’t do it. Just feels off.

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georgecm12@reddit

Which is interesting, because Mike was the head writer for most of the Joel episodes, so it's Mike's material being delivered by Joel.

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Old_Pitch_6849@reddit

I just like the delivery of Joel. Still do when I rewatch.

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WendyPortledge@reddit

I saw all Mike’s before I saw Joel so maybe that’s why he fits better for me.

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trevorawright@reddit

I love Joel’s stuff. Really great episodes in his run but also I loved the Sci-fi Years of season 8/9. Mike had some classics in there too.

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firesmarter@reddit

The Jonah stuff was really good, I was pleasantly surprised

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WendyPortledge@reddit

I was happy to be a Kickstarter backer for that return!

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Suspicious-Yard4205@reddit

I was introduced to the series with Mike, but I have grown to appreciate Joel just as much. Jonah actually did pretty well for himself too.

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BloodyPaleMoonlight@reddit

My heart is big enough for both of them.

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DrMcJedi@reddit

Joel. I was there for the KTMA days…

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love_is_an_action@reddit

Joel, and it’s not even close.

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roundbadge2@reddit

Three or so years ago, I'd have said Joel all day. I've come around on Mike quite a bit.

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ThomasGuycott@reddit

Mike is great, but Joel’s tenure was my first exposure to the show and will always be my favorite.

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shadowlarx@reddit

I like them both. Why must the internet make me choose between things I love?

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lueur-d-espoir@reddit

I'll watch all of it tbh

If anyone cares, The Time Travelers is free on YouTube and it's one of the most hilarious episodes I've watched.

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chromix@reddit

I love them both. I give them credit for episodes like they're war-time generals or something. So like, Joel gave us Mitchell, but Mike gave us the many names of David Ryder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFHlJ2voJHY

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bassman314@reddit

Yes.... Just Yes....

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TVsRob@reddit

Joel ... because without Joel, there's no Team Mike.

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RalphMacchio404@reddit

Joel

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Wolfmanu_Ginobili@reddit

One of my bucket list items was fulfilled when I was hired to create concept art for the Netflix run. Joel is a lovely human, and I offer no hesitation to say he's one of the exceptions to the don't meet your heroes rule.

I will always love MST3k, and I even got to make some of it! Life is weird.

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FoppyRETURNS@reddit (OP)

Legend.

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Just_Ducky1945@reddit

Joel all the way

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georgecm12@reddit

Mike, definitely.

One reason, but not the only one: the host segments got so much weirder and funnier when he took over, because he removed the rule that the host segments have to tie into the movie being watched.

One of the funnier host segments that Joel did was the "Pina Colada Song" rant, and that was only because he relaxed the movie tie-in rule for that movie (421, Monster-A-Go-Go) because the movie was so thin that they couldn't come up with any good host segments that tied into the movie.

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nanneryeeter@reddit

Wasn't it Mike that broke the Hubble?

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ZombyAnna@reddit

I am just Team MST3K...

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BK_0000@reddit

Joike.

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NYGiants181@reddit

I go with the guy who created it

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SweetCosmicPope@reddit

I love both but Mike was always funnier to me. I also liked both Jonah and Emily but Jonah was by far my least favorite. Emily is pretty good.

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jimmythesaint83@reddit

Joel all the way. Mike was good in the theater but he was too happy to really carry the story. (and just to whinge: Jonah Ray is unwatchable in the reboot🤦🏻‍♂️)

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St3llarEcho1@reddit

Team Joel. Mike is funny but Joel had that sleepy midwestern charm like he just woke up from a nap and decided to roast a movie. That's the energy I want in my life.

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kiggitykbomb@reddit

I like Joel’s style and he might be the more talented comedian, but the Mike run of the show has some of the best episodes.

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ConflagWex@reddit

TBH I've only seen a few and they were all Mike, so Team Mike

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parasitk@reddit

Joel forever, but Mike did eventually grow on me. My friend group was very upset when Mike first joined - we had to warm up to him.

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Juls_Santana@reddit

I dont know who that 2nd guy is

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nvmls@reddit

I like them both!

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slothbuddy@reddit

I've said this 100 times and I'll say it again: Joel is better with the bots (outside the theater) and Mike is funnier (better) in the theater. Joel is also better IRL for what that's worth.

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LacklusteHero@reddit

I came on board with Mike, so that's where my allegiances will always lie, but some of my favorite episodes (Warrior of the Lost World in particular) are Joel episodes.

TL;DR: please don't make me choose.

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Fun-Preparation-4253@reddit

I used to be team Mike, but knowing how he turned out really shaped my view of how he was.... and really, Joel really nailed the vibe of the whole presentation.

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amiableviking@reddit

I’m curious what you mean 🤔

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bellaphile@reddit

Mike is a conservative Christian. His Wikipedia used to have a quote about him being a proud Republican but I think that’s changed to a quote about him being very religious

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FoppyRETURNS@reddit (OP)

That's... His opinion man.

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NoirDraak42@reddit

Team Crow forever!

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TheActualDonKnotts@reddit

Both. The way I would explain MST3K to friends when trying to get them to watch it was that Joel would find a joke in the scene and Mike would make a joke out of the scene. Both were great and totally different.

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