I just realized that Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and Nirvana are to today’s kids as Led Zeppelin, The Doors, and Black Sabbath was for us
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DoctorFenix@reddit
You are 10-15 years off, dude.
All those bands peaks were in the mid 70s.
A 20 year gap.
20 years from the 90s gets you to the 2010s
It is currently 2026 and The Killers and White Stripes are the bands that would represent the Classic Rock to Grunge Rock time difference.
D34N2@reddit
Yep. Grunge is The Beatles for today’s kids.
MyNEWthrowaway031789@reddit
Oooof.
72scott72@reddit
Go earlier. Grunge is today’s oldies.
eggs_erroneous@reddit
They wouldn't be going to "The Enchantment Under the Sea" dance, they'd be going to Lollapalooza or something.
Phoniceau@reddit
WHAT!!!!! How is this even possible? Seriously I don’t think the world is so different between now and 1996 - but damn it was crazy different between 1985 and 1955…😵💫
D34N2@reddit
This is entirely true. The 60s, 70s and 80s were crazy decades of huge social and cultural movements, and the 90s were the perfect endpiece to that glorious era in modern history. In comparison, the last two decades have been entirely focused on technology changes, with very little culture movements going on at all.
HechicerosOrb@reddit
Gotta disagree w “very little culture movement” America went super right and we’re all addicted to phones. Some huge huge changes that seem to be destroying the country
D34N2@reddit
Eh, I meant musically. But of course it's an opinionated topic.
Wiggles_Is_My_Boy@reddit
It does feel like there haven’t been any seismic shifts in music since rap reached full maturity as a genre in the 1990s. (EDM, maybe??) All the big changes since then seem more tied to how we discover/listen to music, rather than what we’re actually listening to.
Num10ck@reddit
kpop and mumbling
D34N2@reddit
Kpop is just overproduced idol music ripped off from pop musical stylings of the past. It's not overly original or artistic.
Num10ck@reddit
overproduction and rehashing is a seismic shift
ReadyAimTranspire@reddit
I agree. I remember when I was a kid feeling like the music of the past seeming so dated and so wildly different than modern music I was listening to at the time.
And when I hear new rap, pop, rock etc. I don't feel that same level of disconnection.
HechicerosOrb@reddit
Ah gotcha my bad, typing before contesting
BlueSnaggleTooth359@reddit
the total smartphone/socialmedia/online everything of the 2010s I'd say could count but yeah the big shifts were the 50s rise of teen culture and rock and the 60s/early 70s cultural and civil rights revolutions and then end 70s/80s modern pop culture and new tech/digital revolutions
TwistedBrother@reddit
But like in 1985 we had a Commodore 64, Apple II and a Sinclair spectrum.
The world was completely different in the 80s in ways that are memory holed. In 55 or 85 you had land lines. And a clock. And that was how you coordinated.
No email, no web, no social media, no cell phones.
DazzlingBullfrog9@reddit
Nooooo
Taskerst@reddit
“What’s a rerun?”- the 2026 kid going back to 1996
TwistingEcho@reddit
Boring movie, they'd probably say worth it and call it a day.
WestEndLifer@reddit
Why would you say this? Why!?!?!??!
h4nd@reddit
There’s more time between now and Smells Like Teen Spirit than between Smells Like Teen Spirit and Love Me Do.
I_kwote_TheOffice@reddit
Ooh! I like this game! There’s more time between our births and today than between World War 2 and our births.
Auyan@reddit
TheREALBaldRider@reddit
So, closer to WWIII than WWII, got it.
chocki305@reddit
My age hit me when I realized I was playing a game that is older then the adult I was teaming up with.
I was playing that game, when he was born.
BlueSnaggleTooth359@reddit
quiet you
IdesofMarchHair@reddit
I don’t like this game at all!
DazzlingBullfrog9@reddit
Oh I don't like you at all.
TheEighthTower@reddit
Damn.
SonOfSparda1984@reddit
bjkidder@reddit
Whogotthebutton@reddit
Thanks for this... I needed to feel this old today!!
Brewmeister83@reddit
espressocycle@reddit
Seven more years. It's as old as Heartbreak Hotel or Memories are Made of This by Dean Martin.
illprobablyeditthis@reddit
BlueSnaggleTooth359@reddit
I believe you are most incorrect sir.
That's not true. That's IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's even worse for me since my music wasn't even Smells Like but more like Don't Stop Believing, Pour Some Sugar On Me, Hit Me With You Best Shot 😢😐😆
SatoshisBits@reddit
Gonna_do_this_again@reddit
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Noisechild@reddit
Fuuuuuuck!
RoundTheBend6@reddit
That's so weird.
drgath@reddit
imhereforthevotes@reddit
Dude, that's fucked up.
Dr-McLuvin@reddit
Love me don’t
Sea-Day9742@reddit
Not even that, more like Buddy Holly or Chuck Berry.
ailish@reddit
espressocycle@reddit
Not even. It's Elvis.
ActuallyAlexander@reddit
Now now, you’re not really old until you realize the Beatles are to today’s kids what Bing Crosby was to 90s kids
TheDukeofArgyll@reddit
Oh god
Makeshift5@reddit
You fucking asshole
Eephusblue@reddit
Man that puts it into perspective
ConspiracyParadox@reddit
Sonofabitch!
Due_Character1233@reddit
That's why late 90s early 2000 clothes are coming back in fashion.
maui_greenthumb@reddit
16 y/o nephew wears JNCOs. So cool
Unique-Arugula@reddit
Are they still as big around as they used to be? I never saw them until I was in college and our Dean's hs-aged son had some that he would always wear when he came on campus. He could fit his two brothers in them, one per pant leg.
maui_greenthumb@reddit
They are vintage. The kid went to a vintage fair and got his parents to pay $100 for ratty old '90s jncos
Unique-Arugula@reddit
I'm so curious - did it still smell like vintage Axe body spray? My (monopoly)money is on "yes."
MeatMan7780@reddit
JNCOs are the same styles from the 90s... but they're like $250 now... I remember in the 90s I had to buy them myself, because mom 'wasn't spending $50 on stupid ugly pants'...
I got a job at 15 and bought my own at the mall. When I came home with my first pair my mom said I couldn't wear them.
I just said, "you only said YOU weren't spending $50 on stupid ugly pants... but i spent my own money on stupid ugly pants... it would be a waste of money if I didn't wear them". She was so defeated she didn't know what to do.
Bless you mom for teaching me that MY money is MINE... and I can do what I want!
ReadyAimTranspire@reddit
Yup my cousin's kids are wearing baggy jeans and I'm like "hey I used to dress like you in HS" lol
drgath@reddit
I was at the Santa Cruz Boardwalk this last week. OMG, so many 90s band shirts by people who weren’t alive in the 90s. No hate. Love seeing it. Just really puts things into perspective.
Due_Character1233@reddit
I like it I'm suddenly fashionable again.
Ambitious_Toe_4357@reddit
Fuck, aim older.than I want to be.
DishRelative5853@reddit
Morrison died in 1971. The Doors peaked in 1968.
DoctorFenix@reddit
Ok. So 20 years from then gets you to 1988… the first Nine Inch Nails and Jane’s Addiction albums.
Alt rock still falling right in that timeframe.
DishRelative5853@reddit
Cool.
boomerdt@reddit
As expected and as I would want it.
GramercyPlace@reddit
The big difference is that music was evolving so much in the era that Led Zeppelin etc were recording. Not much has changed since the late 90’s early 2000’s. Most things just sound derivative these days. Whereas the gap between Led Zeppelin and New Wave or even punk sounds enormous.
Ok-Brick6831@reddit
I was having a version of this conversation with my wife…I was wondering, we have the classic rock era, the new wave era, the grunge era, but then what? It’s like there’s really been nothing groundbreaking for some time. 😔
GramercyPlace@reddit
I feel like the last real change was that fusion of rock and electronic that happened with bands like Radiohead in the late 90’s. After that it just feels like some pastiche sub genre (ie chillwave) that doesn’t really break new ground. I am willing to accept that we are just old but I don’t see the evidence.
Ok-Brick6831@reddit
🤔 😔
imhereforthevotes@reddit
This makes some sense to me.
absentlyric@reddit
Honestly I'm kind of glad, early 2000s emo/screamo/metalcore was my jam in college, it's nice to see it make a comeback with the younger generation.
Holiday-Tie-574@reddit
Whew
madogvelkor@reddit
The Doors, Zepplin, Pink Floyd --- for kids today those are like The Ink Spots, Benny Goodman, Duke Ellington, and Glen Miller were for kids in the 1980s.
Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Fats Domino, and Buddy Holly are to kids today like ragtime and marching band music was to kids in the 80s.
uncertia@reddit
This hurts me deeply as The Killers and White Stripes came out towards the tail end of my “keeping up with all the new cool music” phase in my life 😭
I still listen to new music but I’m not nearly to the level I was at from about 1994 to 2006 or so
DisastrousExistance@reddit
Go back to the start of The White Stripes.. some awesome raw shit there.. I luv ‘em, but they sold out after a decade or so to commercialism, shit was still phenomenal but .. Jacky’s solo stuff since then is f*n lit 🔥
HorrFrek@reddit
God damn, I remember the first I heard Godsmack come on the local classic rock station, I aged 20 years in a minute.
flockitup@reddit
I hope you step in a pile of dog poop for pointing this out, have a mediocre day sir.
ReadyAimTranspire@reddit
That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me this year.
slowdownyoucrazy@reddit
I don’t know if that’s quite how this stuff ages anymore. Neverending tours and Spotify means it’s all available now. That might be why there hasn’t been a new popular music genre since Napster (I mean an actual new, popular sound/form like rap, rock, or jazz). Maybe I’m too out of touch to even hear it. When I turn on the radio, it feels like even the new music is remaking and remixing the past. I don’t even know if I’m complaining about it. I like a lot of it. It feels as if the whole world is listening mostly to the past. It’s like we all turned around at the same time.
I think maybe a lot of the hot topic and Walmart t-shirts of old bands are for us to buy for our kids. Nostalgia waves are predictable and prodded, and it seems like those stores/sections are moving even further back in time. I see young people around town wearing all sorts of old-timey stuff
ReadyAimTranspire@reddit
I honestly think that music has hit a sort of evolutionary roadblock.
The reason music changed so much from, say the beginning of the 20th century to the 50's was because of the tech and instrument changes...the introduction of the electric guitar and bass, amplification tech, etc.
That continued through the 90's but by the late 90's the tech of music had roughly formed what we have now. Obviously there has been advancements but we haven't seen any wild changes in standard instrumentation in a long time.
TakingYourHand@reddit
The Doors were the '60's Zeppelin formed in '69, but was made up of all-stars from the 60's.
DoctorFenix@reddit
Fine. So go 20 years from 68 or 69.
You know what that gets you?
The first studio albums by Nine Inch Nails, Faith No More, and Jane’s Addiction.
That’s still a hell of a lot closer to the peak of alternative rock than anything else.
I stand by my 20 year gap comment.
TakingYourHand@reddit
30 years
AntonChekov1@reddit
What?
TakingYourHand@reddit
What part needs clarification.
AntonChekov1@reddit
The Doors were the Led Zeppelin of the 60's? Never heard that before. And Led Zeppelin was made of 60's all stars? Really?
GenghisConnieChung@reddit
Prior to Led Zeppelin Jimmy Page was in The Yardbirds among other bands, and was also a very seasoned and sought after session musician by the time Zeppelin formed.
What’s crazy to me is how fast bands put out albums back then. Zeppelin’s first 2 albums were both released in 1969 (I & Ii in January and October respectively.) III came out in October of 1970, IV was released in November of 1971.
The Doors put out 6 studio albums between 1967 - 1971 also with their first 2 coming in the same year.
TakingYourHand@reddit
Jim Morrison died in 1971. They formed in '65 and their peak was '68-70.
Zeppelin was superbly popular and playing amphitheaters in the U.S. in 1968. And yes, Zeppelin was a supergroup and original toured as "The New Yardbirds."
scronide@reddit
Led Zeppelin wasn't a supergroup. Jimmy Page was the only notable member at the time. The others were still basically session musicians.
Fordfff@reddit
Their sentence is missing a comma after 60's.
hamburgler26@reddit
I did the math on this and it blew my mind, kinda in not the best way. But wild to think about.
Big77Ben2@reddit
Exactly.
matty25@reddit
Unsubscribe
throwaway5882300@reddit
You're spot on. In 2009, my buddy was at some small music venue when he saw a kid putting up flyers looking for a bass player. He asked them what they played and the kid said "we cover a lot of classic rock, like Nirvana and Green Day"
Taskerst@reddit
I was talking to a bartender a couple of months ago and she was saying that her uncle was a huge fan of the White Stripes. I thought that’s cool, an older guy who stays current. That’s when I remembered they broke up 15 years ago. I asked how old her uncle was and he’s two years younger than me.
bottlebowling@reddit
I'm going to ask you politely, yet firmly, to fuck off.
dowker1@reddit
"I'm into classic rock like Arcade Fire"
RoundTheBend6@reddit
Ugh... I died a little when classic rock radio started playing 90s stuff.
goat_penis_souffle@reddit
On the plus side, those stuffy classical music stations are gonna be lit when they start playing doowop.
MrBobSaget@reddit
Dude I remember literally 10-15 years ago my little cousin who was 16 at the time telling me he was into classic rock and I was like nice! So like zeppelin and shit? And he was like what? No like fall out boy and Green Day. And on that day I died inside.
GenghisConnieChung@reddit
A few years ago I had a kid at the dispensary tell me he listened to all kinds of classic rock like Nirvana… ☠️
Slowmaha@reddit
Omg
THExIMPLIKATION@reddit
I'll always remember driving to work one morning listening to the classic rock station and they played TOOL
FGFlips@reddit
You really didn't have to do that to me haha
_Xee@reddit
Your math is off. The 90s were like 10 years ago, tops.
BlueSnaggleTooth359@reddit
Exactly.
I got almost 800 on SAT in math.
And by my calculation 1999 was 5 years 3 months and 10 days ago.
OutrageForSale@reddit
The thing is, the context doesn’t really matter. Most kids put it all in the same compartment of “this is old music from before I was born”.
Same with movies. My kids can’t tell the difference between Old School and Back to School. They’re both just old movies to them.
They don’t fully grasp the timeline. I’m sure that will change as they get into their teens and have a sense of history.
Stereo-soundS@reddit
This is Xennials. Not Millenials or Genx.
Sorry chief OP is dead on.
Eastern-Joke-7537@reddit
Man. That’s the band I thought of too.
Radiohead is great.
Good bridge between the eras in rock or pop music or whatever they call it now.
Longbeach_strangler@reddit
The Strokes are that now. This is It. And our 25 years ago.
Ultimatesims@reddit
Yeah, but that came out when I was in college which wasn’t that long ago…oh oh no…
Ultimatesims@reddit
Yeah but bands like The Shins and Black Keys are all brand new right? Oh oh no…
Phoniceau@reddit
O…m…g….
FoppyRETURNS@reddit
👆👆👆💀
gurnard@reddit
Elephant was one of the last new releases I bought on CD. Just bought a 20th anniversary vinyl. Still not sure how I feel about that.
GenghisConnieChung@reddit
I find it hard to believe that The Doors peaked in the mid 70’s considering Jim Morrison died in ‘71.
DoctorFenix@reddit
I can go back and change it to “early to mid 70s” if you want.
The sentiment remains the same.
Damnation77@reddit
Liar! Why are you lying!?
TrixieBastard@reddit
Oceanbreeze871@reddit
Yeah but this generation is super into the 80s and 90s. It’s familiar to now but pre internet.
Bookish45_F@reddit
2AMBeautiful@reddit
I hate you for this
Azuras_Star8@reddit
Get off my lawn.
redcurrantevents@reddit
godDAMMIT
minneapocalypse@reddit
You’re Clueless 😆
MrNice1983@reddit
I feel like we actually went deep with those classic bands though back in the day…. A lot of these kids just wear the shirts and dont know anything about the music.. and that’s cool too no hate but that was a death sentence in the 90s haha.. this is my experience anyway as a middle school teacher
omnes1lere@reddit
Way off dude
Sea-Day9742@reddit
Those grunge bands are even older now than Zeppelin and Sabbath were at the peak of the grunge era.
Nirvana’s Bleach was released 37 years ago, when it was released Led Zeppelin 1 was only out for 20 years.
meltintothesea@reddit
Sinatra, Elvis, BB King…
sofatruck@reddit
Smells like Teen Spirit is the same distance from my kids birth year as fucking Rock around the Clock was to my own. Jesus.
Thereal_maxpowers@reddit
Except two out of three aren’t nearly as cool.
Technical-Weekend598@reddit (OP)
No one will ever be as cool as LZ
shrikelet@reddit
Mate, grunge is to modern kids as Little Richard was to us... it just didn't last as long as he did.
rodw@reddit
Grunge lasted all of like 4 years - and to pedant, consisted of maybe 4 bands - at its core. In light of that the extent to which grunge is perceived is the definitive/signature '90s sound (for white music?) is a little weird.
I mean, I'm not necessarily advocating for any of these to unseat grunge, but big beat, 3rd wave ska, maybe swing, nu metal, whatever genre those boy bands like NSYNC/Backstreet Boys/etc are considered, etc. may have each lasted as long or longer than grunge, and were roughly as big of a scene by band-count (if not fan count). And some of those genres may even be more influential that grunge in the long run.
But I'm not sure if there has ever been a singular music scene that blew up the way grunge did ~91-93. "Explosive" does begin to cover it. Nevermind was released at the end of September 1991, debuting at ~#150 on Billboard. By early January 1992 - barely 90 days later - it was unseating Michael Jackson for the #1 spot.
By 92/94 marketers were trying to shoehorn everyone from Smashing Pumpkins to the Cranberries into grunge. It was f-ing crazy
A_Thorny_Petal@reddit
The term 'grunge' as a marketing thing.
All of those bands where on their second, third or fourth album by the time they got big in the early 90s.
That sound just wasn't mainstream, but there was certainly something vibrant happening in indie rock at the time, moving towards a heavier sound but melodic sound. The Smithereens really don't get enough credit in aftersight - I blame their slick big label 80's rock production values.
UltraMegaOK, Bleach, GlueyPorchTreatments, TouchmeI'msick and a bunch of other core 'Grunge' albums where all released by 1988-1989.
It just took a few years for the marketing people to all agree on a name for what was going on with all the independent rock labels that had sprung up all over the country and specifically the seattle/oregon scene.
So yeah maybe the name was a marketing term around for a short time, but by 1994 most of the 'grunge' bands had been around for 6-8 years and back in 1988 where known to people into indie rock and had dedicated regional and small national fanbases before the 1990s. Remember Nirvana was hoping to sell 100,000 records with Nevermind and have a Sonic Youth sized successful career - that takes some pre-existing fan base at least (hence the SubPop Singles Club).
When I saw Nirvana in 89 the club was packed full and we where on the opposite coast. Word of mouth was a thing. To give you an idea of what a different world that concert was the first time teenage me ever saw a girl with a tattoo on the back of her neck - people with piercings and tattoos where still firmly in the camp of being viewed as spooky weirdos and dirtbag hippies. The malls where still selling shit like Milli Vanilli and Motley Crue to teenagers and the entire indie rock scene was still largely a subculture of musicians, music nerds, artists and college radio heads trying their hardest to succeed artistically without being viewed as a 'sell out'.
Source :80's/90's hipster, SubPop Singles Club member, Melvins fan, etc.
NoBot-RussiaBad@reddit
You saw Nirvana in '89? Faahhhhhhhkkkk.....
Who was drumming? Chad Channing?
A_Thorny_Petal@reddit
dude, I have no idea, We didn't know what any of the BAND looked like, we'd never seen a picture of Nirvana that didn't have hair in their faces - all 2 of the pictures we'd ever seen, I think one of them was on the back if the Sliver/Dive Single or maybe the Blew EP? I didn't recognize them when I saw them year later and I'd already SEEN them, lol. You couldn't have seen the difference between any of them from the rest of the crowd at their show, frankly. Kris stands out because he's really tall, and Dave Grohl was just that 'bouncy spazy drummer kid' from The Scream.
Morsexier@reddit
And not to mention, having seen them for the first time opening for the Weezer Blue album tour I think, the Dinosaur BBQ album being like the inspiration for a ton of grunge sound.
I just realized I typed Dino BBQ, we're so fucking old I have to go google what the hell Im talking about now.
A_Thorny_Petal@reddit
mmm as much as i'm overall sorta 'meh' on Dinosaur Jr album to album, Mascis has such a great guitar tone and sense of how to produce without overproducing his sound that affected a lot of his peers.
Morsexier@reddit
Yea I didn't really enjoy the album enough to have more than 1-2 songs into my rotation, and I guess Weezer isn't Grunge its more alternative but it was eye opening to read that Cobain specifically cited that album as an influence on their sound.
A_Thorny_Petal@reddit
yeah but Weezer springs up in the wake of indies gone to majors that Grunge spawns, while Weezer isn't easily labelled a 'grunge' band they are genuinely an indie rock band from that same era. Jawbox and a lot of the Discord bands fall into a similar category. Are they the same kind of heavy (well sometimes theya re) as a lot of what people think of as 'grunge', no. BUT are they part of the same musical era and generation, absolutely.
Note : People shit on it because it's post-discord and on a major but fucking 'for your own special sweetheart' by Jawbox is one of the best, most underrated rock albums of that era. If it had come out a few years before the major labels and marketing had circled the wagons and decided what was in the 'grunge' camp and what wasn't it would've certainly be considered in the vein as any of those bands no matter how much they wanted to claim it was a specifically 'Seattle' thing, it was more widespread than that, Seattle just had a really great local scene, a core vein of talent that supported each other, and they lead the way for other bands from the same musical ilk in chicago, dc, san francisco, dc, southwest, etc... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBlLW5a_XZg
ReadyAimTranspire@reddit
This was a huge reason that grunge seemingly took the world by storm. It was such a massive aesthetic and cultural overhaul from hair metal, pop and pop rock that had dominated the airwaves at the time.
I had been listening to punk for a couple years at that point but I remember the Nevermind release, it was enormous.
A_Thorny_Petal@reddit
I think it's because indie rock at that point had sort of absorbed elements of all the different subcultures and fused them.
I was perfectly primed to be really into bands like Nirvana, Tad, the Melvins, Soundgarden, the Jesus Lizard, etc. because I was a kid that listened to the Misfits AND Black Sabbath AND Metallica,Slayer AND the Dead Kennedys AND early REM/Smiths...
so heavy melodic music with more of a 'fuck it' working class blue collar attitude towards fashion but an inarguably anti-racist, pro-feminist, and artistic aesthetic was right in the pocket. Punk and metal kids where already mostly broke working class kids buying generic clothes and cutting labels off of other things because "i don't want to be an ad". Combat boots and army surplus were durable, cheap and warm, and you could hack the fuck out of them, sew patches on them, spray paint them, cut into them, and no one cared, not even your parents, generally. So any of the 'freaks' could show up at an early Nirvana, Melvins, etc show and feel accepted. Mohawks, hippies, artschool kids and dudes with long hair in Iron Maiden t-shirts where all equally welcome and fit in to that unnamed early 'grunge' scene. It's the reason it all melted into 'alternative' for the a&r reps and marketing teams.
icecoldbobsicle@reddit
Yes, but no... imo. Led zep and Sabbath are the led zep and Sabbath to those generations, heck if they want they can enjoy even older music, like 50s or 30s or classical.
Bookofdrewsus@reddit
Tool is the zoomer Pink Floyd
_undercover_brotha@reddit
We always knew that is how they'd end up. A glorious psychedelic rock legend just like PF.
PM_ME_YOUR_GREENERY@reddit
James Maynard Keenan is overrated.
Super_Tradition_99@reddit
Well fuck..
So_HauserAspen@reddit
They're playing my jams!
Remembers I am the grocery store
LineImpossible3958@reddit
When I was a kid I was super into classic rock. By 6th grade I was way into Zeppelin, AC/DC, etc. I liked new music too, but I devoured classic rock because I grew up with it, my parents played it all the time. So I don’t get kids who don’t look at the past. Who consider old “bad”. I was never one of those kids, I was always interested in what came before, to a point.
xAlice_Liddell@reddit
Marty went back in time 30 years to 1955. You didn’t
Needed_Seeded_81@reddit
Yeah last week marked 32 years since Cobain died and that made me feel old. OP isn't helping and neither are the comments lol.
BilingualClothes27@reddit
And now I feel ancient
absentlyric@reddit
Nah, that stuff is considered "dadrock" now.
Im seeing more kids getting back into the emo/screamo/metalcore scene now. Hawthorne Heights, Underoath, At The Drive In, Panic At The Disco, etc are starting to come back...and Im all for it.
niccia@reddit
It’s all classic rock now. Time is weird man.
Dannimaru@reddit
I hear Foo Fighters and Green Day at the grocery store now. Feels bad man.
Terakahn@reddit
I love it personally. It's nice that the stores I shop at play music I like.
DudeCanNotAbide@reddit
I keep hearing Live Forever by Oasis every time I go to Kroger. I'm like, "Sweet!" Then I'm like, "Oh no!"
ReadyAimTranspire@reddit
I was at Target a couple years ago and Jimmy Eat World "The Middle" started playing
I knew at the point that I was officially old af
DungPedalerDDSEsq@reddit
They fucking love our shit!
Deftones are definitely in the mix, and NOFX...
I got a lot of faith in these ones.
Weird_Squirrel_8382@reddit
I discovered The Doors through GTA San Andreas. And my son discovered Nirvana by going through my old CD binder he found at Granny's house.
muffsnake@reddit
As a gen-x, Black Sabbath is my Black Sabbath.
CherryCherry5@reddit
cries
Feral_Sheep_@reddit
The way I feel about the Rolling Stones is the same way my kids are going to feel about Nine Inch Nails.
So I should stop giving my mom such a hard time.
hungryforstink@reddit
“well, yes!”
Alternative-Wish-441@reddit
Was looking for this quote and am not disappointed.
the_ballmer_peak@reddit
My Mom took me to see the Rolling Stones live when I was 13. They were already an old-ass classic rock band.
That was 30 years ago and they're still touring.
Eastern-Joke-7537@reddit
Same here.
The VooDoo Lounge Tour!
Good stuff!
Wish I still had that tye dye t shirt!
Nicotheintern1@reddit
Immediately heard Travis Birkenstock and would have been very disappointed to see it not posted.
laziestmarxist@reddit
Just make sure to save your su cide attempts for after first period
DidIReallySayDat@reddit
Odd thing though, NIN is still considered hard rock, where as rolling stones back in the day we thought was easy listening.
imhereforthevotes@reddit
Both rock.
AmateurExpert__@reddit
Picked up my son from school with the windows down and Pearl Jam (Jeremy) playing, and realised that it would be the same as my dad picking me up in 1986 with Glenn Miller blasting..
PaintingNouns@reddit
I was just laughing with my bff that us in high school being absolutely OBSESSED with Hot Rocks and the Rolling Stones, is the same for my daughter, exactly 30 years our junior, currently asking me for grunge playlists. Both were the high school music of our parents.
What I can’t figure is what changed before that. My kid also listens to the Stones, the Beatles, in addition to new wave and the Smiths and everything up until today. I guarantee my mom wasn’t about to listen to music from 1940 in high school. It’s very odd to me that we hit something in the mid-60s music wise and we still listen to all of it.
bananabastard@reddit
Yea. 20 years ago mass production fashion stores were selling Rolling Stones and The Ramones t-shirts to millions of kids who didn't know who they were. Now Nirvana are that t shirt.
suptenwaverly@reddit
Get off my lawn!
Willing_Crazy699@reddit
Grunge is today's wax candy lips
jaycutlerdgaf@reddit
I was thinking about this recently, and it made me feel old as dirt.
ffphier@reddit
My teen girls like early 90s bands. I overheard their friends talking about Stone Temple Pilots and Alice In Chains the other day. My girls were also fighting over my Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin CDs. I know one is really into MCR and Weezer. It doesn’t seem to matter how old a band is to them. However, they will never admit to me that they listen to same music I do unless they want a CD or see a band. I think it’s really weird that they are into CDs since the ones they want are mostly available on Apple Music. I can understand wanting vinyl, but I don’t get the love these kids have for CDs.
lastchance14@reddit
Do the Forrest Gump math!!
vankirk@reddit
New Music Friday on Spotify and Foo Fighters is down near the bottom.
elvisap@reddit
My kids think I'm cool because I listen to classic bands like Korn and Deftones.
spazilator@reddit
Two of my daughter’s favorite bands are The Cure and Deftones. Proud papa right here 🥲
TurdFerguson2OOO@reddit
My 9yr old knows Weezer's blue album front to back 😢
ReadyAimTranspire@reddit
I love that! One of my all time albums, I knew every note, every drum hit, every harmony of that album. I was obsessed with it, so good.
hipdisaster@reddit
The distance between 1980 and today is the same as the distance 1934 and 1980 😬
misterguyyy@reddit
I have teenagers and Deftones, KoRn, Sublime, Weezer, and Radiohead the names I’m hearing most often, either in their friend groups or on TikTok.
Beabadoobee even name dropped Pavement/Stephen Malkmus and I thought I’d never hear them mentioned again.
ReadyAimTranspire@reddit
Weezer's Blue Album is in my top 20 albums of my life for sure, I love that album deeply
spazilator@reddit
Good music is timeless. Sometimes it just take a bit for everyone to remember how good it was
bratikzs@reddit
We carpool the kids to school in the morning. They mentioned someone wearing a Band Tshirt has to know at least 10 songs by the artist - kids today are shaming each other for wearing shirts of bands they know nothing about. Whew!
That is to say, at least we could name the songs.
ReadyAimTranspire@reddit
Kinda lame that they sell Ramones shirts at Walmart.
Not gatekeeping, kids should listen to and rock The Ramones! But I feel like buying a Ramones t-shirt should be a little more intentional, ya know?
Not just "oh it was at Walmart and looked cool I don't know who they are though"
Deranged-Pickle@reddit
You're forgetting Alice In Chains
Sea2Chi@reddit
A couple years ago I was telling a coworker about how my brother saw Soundgarden open for Nirvana and the Screaming Trees at a small town community center in the late 80s before they all got huge and that there were only about 50 people at the show. She looked at me for a second and said "I wasn't even born then and don't know most of those bands."
WayneS1980@reddit
Goes for cars too, my daughter said she wanted a classic car, I assumed 50’s/60’s American car, nope she’s thinking 90’s Japanese…
Acrobatic-Dot-6273@reddit
My car is officially a classic now. 1996 civic ex coupe.
CatchAlarming6860@reddit
I had a dental hygienist mention “oldies music” and I instantly felt ancient when she meant 70s lol
BasvanS@reddit
Kids hurt you. It’s what they do.
Smitch250@reddit
Your just realizing this? I realized this in highschool. Congrats!
LeadershipIll60@reddit
opendefication@reddit
Really, like most eras, it has a lot to do with the radio friendly middle ground. Some eras like the late 60's, early 70's lucked out with a solid radio Playlist. Same could be said for the late 80's, early 90's. These quality times are rare, they tend to stick to your bones a bit better, and cross generations because they hang around longer. I remember seeing Slayer and Parliament at the same festival, likely an early Lollapalooza or something. Neither ever had a "radio friendly" vibe, but this shit was mixed right in with the grugiest one hit wonders in constant rotation. Looking back, it seems like half a dozen good bands. In reality, it was a much broader scene. Youngsters kinda catch the highlights like I did, dipping my toes into the heavy rock genre in the 80's. Lots of Zepellin and Sabbath.
Great68@reddit
I was hit in the face with this reality a little while ago, when I took our new 20 year old Co-op student to a site visit for a project that was in a remote small town. There was a record shop in this town and he asked if we could stop in there and have a look, I said sure.
In the shop I was looking for Jimi Hendrix records to round out my collection, he was looking at Radiohead.
TakingYourHand@reddit
1995 to them, is 1965 us.
1965 to them is 1935 to us.
We had Classic Rock. They have Grunge.
We had jazz and blues. They have Classic rock.
BadassSasquatch@reddit
This is categorically false. I mean, it isn't, but there's no way I am this old. I don't feel that old. I certainly don't act like it.
Darkspiff73@reddit
So there’s going to be a weird period of a few years where Classic Rock will make a huge comeback with teenagers and random bands will pop up and burn out quickly mimicking that sound?
Like our swing period with bands like Squirrel Nut Zippers and Cherry Poppin’ Daddies?
rekt_ralf@reddit
We kinda already had this. Greta Von Fleet were that ‘new retro band’
-DementedAvenger-@reddit
No nononononooooooo
MrBobSaget@reddit
My brain literally can’t make sense of this
BasvanS@reddit
Your brain is getting too old.
munchonsomegrindage@reddit
I was watching a Gen Z reaction video where they were referring to Nirvana and the like as classic rock. Instantly turned me into Private Ryan.
bfrankiehankie@reddit
Rage Against the Machine is as old to my kids as Led Zeppelin was to me.
CarfDarko@reddit
For me its Dio, Uriah Heep, Queen and Bowie ;)
Slammajadingdong69@reddit
Who’s STP and AiC then?
Cosmonaught_42@reddit
Uhhh yeah no. Way off. Like by a decade and a half for most kids.
nullmatar420@reddit
Back when NIN and Janes Addiction toured together, a local independent paper brought up that was alot like people in the 90s going to see bands like Foghat and Foreigner touring together and fuck them for that. In many ways, they were right, but still, uncalled for.
Different-Local4284@reddit
Overrated radioslop lmao if they only knew
Big77Ben2@reddit
Was just talking to my 11 yr old son yesterday about kids wearing nirvana shirts.
Responsible_Meat66@reddit
Not even close.
CakeRobot365@reddit
Just now? They've been on classic rock stations for over a decade. Lol
Comfortable-Pea-1312@reddit
We were obsessed with the 60s though. JFK, psychedelic rock/ Motown and weed. What a time 🥰
_Ethel_Beavers@reddit
I am sitting here reading this whilst wearing an Alice in Chains concert Tee. (It's from the Dirt album tour, which I attended at the Cotillion Ballroom in 1993.) God I'm old.
PleaseDontBanMe82@reddit
Those bands are grandpa rock, not dad rock.
Epicardiectomist@reddit
KEEP GOING
They're more like Screamin' Jay Hawkins to the yout's today.
Royal-Pen3516@reddit
You could also be a Phish fan like me… and when you tell the people around you at a show that your first Phish show was in 1994, their eyes get big and they say, “I wasn’t even born yet”. They think it’s cool and want to know all about what it was like back then. And I just feel old AF
ObligationJumpy6415@reddit
Man, yesterday a clip of Antiques Roadshow popped up on our YouTube feed with a woman showing her Pearl Jam posters. Ugghhh LOL
cash77cash@reddit
Those bands are more like The Temptations, The (early) Beatles, Beach Boys now.
Block444Universe@reddit
The Doors are every generation’s the Doors
Verum2020@reddit
Some psychologist figured the music you listened to at young ages imprints on you as "the best." For some of us it was what's now classic rock. For some it's polka music or boy bands.
WickedKoala@reddit
You forgot Alice In Chains, who's sound wouldn't exist without Black Sabbath. The other's aren't even remotely close.
Some-Bullfrog-4768@reddit
The most popular band at my high school in the late 90s was The Beatles.
BlueSnaggleTooth359@reddit
In the late 80s for first wave Gen X:
"I've Had The Time Of My Life" and "Forever Young"(s) (which is a wild one since a song of this title was a hit three different times in the 80s and twice for the same version! Rod Stewart, Laura Branigan and Alphaville; hell the 80s also had the only year in which a song with the exact same name hit #1 more than once, 1984 with Jump by Van Halen and Jump by The Pointer Sisters!) seemed among the most popular songs to end HS yearbook videos with.
"Stairway To Heaven" seemed a fairly popular Junior or Senior Prom Song pick!
"Here I Go Again" was a fairly popular song of the year choice.
Favorite singers/bands top 3 or 5 choices often seemed to be from a mix of like: Led Zeppelin, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Van Halen, Phil Collins, Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen, Whitney Houston, Pat Benatar, Bon Jovi, Whitesnake, U2, Def Leppard, Journey
The Beatles were still popular and there was always a kids or two at any school who'd even mostly just listen to The Beatles (and it wasn't taken as weird or anything). Not that people really listened to it a lot but people also like stuff like The Supremes and from all the 70s/80s movies/commercials featuring songs from the 50s/60s we were familiar with plenty. Of course this latter paragraphs would hold for Xennials too from what I saw. Mostly familiar with the same 70s/80s movies and same 80s commercials.
Professional_Suit278@reddit
Those bands, among other popular 90’s bands are considered “Dad rock” now.
vikmaychib@reddit
The question is when WAP will become the equivalent to Bohemian Rhapsody?
BlueSnaggleTooth359@reddit
never
PercentageRoutine310@reddit
We had a closer gap from 1992-1994 with those classic rock bands mentioned than the gap we have from the Grunge era. A 32 year substraction from 1994 would be 1962.
I trip out more when I realize we are now older than most of the TV sitcom dads we grew up watching. Ed O’Neill started Married… with Children at age 41. Katey Sagal was only 33. I was watching an episode of Just the Ten of Us. In an episode, they mention their mother, Elizabeth, is 37. She’s 37 with 8 children. And her daughters were calling her pretty old.
BlueSnaggleTooth359@reddit
Historical Images?!?!
Puzzleheaded_Race_90@reddit
This hurts, deeply. Don't do that again, please 😆
tenro5@reddit
All of those are for me
x650r@reddit
As others have pointed out, your math is wrong. You have to go back to the mid 50’s for the equivalent timeframe. Elvis, Dean Martin, Fats Domino. Kids listening to the 80’s today would have been like us listening to Vera Lynn or Glen Miller.
mrossm@reddit
I used to think to grocery stores only played music for old people but now its all bangers from my childhood
hiphophippie1@reddit
My 17 year old sons favorite band is Stone Temple Pilots.
Roland-Of-Eld-19@reddit
Nirvana Nevermind was in 1991, 35 years ago.... and then 35 years before THAT Elvis debuted Hound Dog in 1956!
LAffaire-est-Ketchup@reddit
The 90s was only 10 years ago
ItsDarwinMan82@reddit
OP, I’m insulted Alice In Chains is not in your post.
tider06@reddit
I work with 2 20 year olds who have never even heard the name Clint Eastwood. Never heard of the movie Tommy Boy.
They were born 5 years AFTER 9/11. They have no concept of a non-digital world. I have never felt so old, though not upset by it.
Time marches on, my friends.
MrIrvington@reddit
Off to the assisted living center I go....
Joggingmusic@reddit
If you have a teenage son or daughter, you’re quite aware. Oh the awareness.
heresmytwopence@reddit
Pearl Jam, Nirvana and Soundgarden are to them what Elvis, Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee Lewis, etc were to us. The Drifters' 1956 cover of White Christmas sung by Kevin in Home Alone was 34 years old when the movie came out.
mhopkins1420@reddit
I just turned my cousins kid onto Primus cause we got too many puppies
RedLily08@reddit
Who cares? That's fine. That's how time works
Environmental_Sail54@reddit
Yesterday a kid asked me what I liked listening to in my headphones. I said classic rock, not thinking about Zep or Queen, but thinking he fully understood I meant Soundgarden, STP, Nirvana.
Living_Young1996@reddit
I've heard all of those bands on the Oldies station
CalvinDehaze@reddit
I remember going to shows in the 90’s and sometimes there would be some guy with a long salt and pepper pony tail and a beer gut talking about how he saw Zeppelin in 71’. I always vowed never to be that guy when I grew up!
I mean, I don’t have the pony tail and I say that I saw Nirvana in 93’, so I didn’t turn into that guy!
sllh81@reddit
Where do the Stone Temple Pilots fall into the scheme of things?
A_Thorny_Petal@reddit
Corporate bandwagon 'Grunge' created by marketing execs? There's a reason every other band called them the "Stone Pimple Toilets" at the '92 (or '93) dollop of losers (lollapalooza).
Longbeach_strangler@reddit
The Strokes Is this it was released 25 years ago.
A_Thorny_Petal@reddit
Hey you know what? FUCK YOU PAL.
IanDetroit@reddit
I was a HUGE fan of the Doors in the mid to late 90’s. Like, I talked about them so much and that era. I work at a college, when I see students with pink Nirvana shirts on or talking to me about Sublime I’m like is this what I looked like to my parents generation?! Oh no…
arcxjo@reddit
No they aren't, because that second set were good.
False_Grape1326@reddit
Mildly interesting sidebar my college room mate was the personal assistant of mr Vedder (why am I being pseudo discreet idk sorry) anyways it was really fun to be adjacent for a handful of years
MaestroLogical@reddit
What is more shocking to me is how the legends we thought of as being timeless, are quickly being forgotten.
Ask a 16 year old who Elvis is.
bemerick@reddit
time has squished a lot with regard to this stuff as advancements in recording quality have made most albums sound like they could have been made in any era.
Routine-Employment71@reddit
This post currently has 311 upvotes.
laziestmarxist@reddit
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JUST1N0@reddit
Our music is on the classic rock station. And 80s music is on the oldies station. If you need me I’ll be in the nursing home.
InitialKoala@reddit
fuzzybad@reddit
I was there... 3,000 years ago
AntonChekov1@reddit
Just-a-Guy-4242@reddit
I’m like the crypt keeper!
Occams_AK47@reddit
I hear them all (including AIC) on the classic rock station now.
Shit's crazy.
eatsleepdive@reddit
https://i.redd.it/0ao6zlo3qaug1.gif
-mudflaps-@reddit
TrustAffectionate966@reddit
I was thinking BEFORE Led Zep and Black Sabbath. It would be closer to Jimmy Hendrix, Janis Joplin, The Doors, and bands and artists featured in Woodstock.
🧉🦄
Technical-Weekend598@reddit (OP)
LZ, doors, and BS were all active at the time of Woodstock. In fact, more bands played in Atlantic City the next weekend after Woodstock, including LZ
BathAutomatic6972@reddit
One of the things I was hoping would happen and some of those younger kids picking up a guitar or drums or really starting to revisit that style developing a new rock style. Maybe I’m just fogey and not listening to new music.
Technical-Weekend598@reddit (OP)
In el Segundo the other weekend there was a chili cookoff. They had bands perform. One of them was a group of junior high kids, and they only played 90’s covers
Technical-Weekend598@reddit (OP)
It’s actually happening. I have a few kids (I’m a teacher) that play drums, bass, guitar. I show them stuff and they get into it
bulbishNYC@reddit
Back that thang up song was 27 years ago. When it came out in 1999 Stairway to heaven was same age - 27 years old.
Dr-McLuvin@reddit
You forgot Alice In Chains and STP
Technical-Weekend598@reddit (OP)
I left out a bunch of bands, both 70’s and 90’s
primabelladonna35@reddit
My knees cracked when I read this.
trinicron@reddit
Pass the Ibuprofen brother
Appropriate-Neck-585@reddit
Dannimaru@reddit
I actually enjoy the former more than the latter.
BulimicMosquitos@reddit
I was listening to all of them at 12. I’m hoping, but highly doubt it’s the norm for kids nowadays to check out and appreciate the previous generation’s tunes.
Technical-Weekend598@reddit (OP)
I’m a high school teacher and dad to a college freshman. Thanks to tik tok, they’re rediscovering grunge
Notredamus1@reddit
HedyHarlowe@reddit
I was 27 when I heard the chilli peppers on the ‘old timer’ radio station. I was horrified.
Still think Pearl Jam’s unplugged was the best though
thenoid42@reddit
Not even close bud.
smoke2957@reddit
Oof that truth hurts
instant_ramen_chef@reddit
Agreed.
I remember being like 14, i used to hang out at a friends garage with his 30-something uncles. We talked about music. One of the uncles gave me a csssette tape with bands like Humble Pie, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, and Jethro Tull. I thought it was the coolest shit id ever heard. Of course, I was smoking mad weed back then.
Background-Manager87@reddit
Nope. Don't like that 😂
CFeatsleepsexrepeat@reddit
Shoosh now, why you gotta remind us of our ages hmmmm???
lowercasenameofmine@reddit
😲😑 damn you