My genuine theory is that the first people started making memes out of it satirically and they happened to reach the crowd who hasn’t even seen the movie and thought the memes were genuine.
Take a pause and honestly ask yourself if the average American conservative would enjoy American psycho. How many conservatives do you think are kicking back with the kids and cheering on Patrick Bateman killing an unsuspecting woman? I can promise you that a sizable chunk wouldn’t even watch it based on the title alone.
American Psycho and The Boys are the worst examples of the phenomenon of predominantly leftist audiences talking to each other about how little conservatives understand some media. There are no conservatives in the conversation. Your mental model of conservatives is so divorced from reality that you think that the average Republican is cheering on Homelander as he fantasizes about mulching a crowd or throwing a guy in an oven.
The only people, left or right, that “idolize” these characters with any degree of sincerity are off their meds or 13 year old boys with unrestricted access to the internet. Hate conservatives all you want for policy or whatever, but pretending that they uniformly have the media literacy of a toddler is just pathetic.
Apparently the book starship troopers it’s based on is pure lunatic shit. Verhoven, director of the movie, thought the book was hilarious and ridiculous.
The book is great and Verhoven’s attempt to satirize it almost completely flops. The actual objectionable policies in the film are
Restrictions on who is allowed to have children
Questionable due process
Pro military propaganda for children
None of these elements are in the book.
Verhoven mistook militarism for fascism. The main character joins the military and thus the book is very focused on his coming of age within the Mobile Infantry, but the Federation has a volunteer-only military that is justified by the extremely aggressive and intelligent alien race attacking them.
Shockingly, multiple elements from the book that are cited as arguments that the Federation is not fascist actually made it into the film. There is a clear divide between private and public life, the military “recruiters” actually dissuade people from joining, and there is clear accountability for failures in leadership.
It's not really lunatic shit. It is fundamentally a book set in a libertarian militarized society where you have to serve in the military to participate in government and the story implies this is good and works, but that's not weird by any standard in science fiction. Nor is writing of war from the perspective of a soldier who grows as a person rather than simply being traumatized. It just pissed off people, almost none of whom have ever experienced combat. A lot of his other works are much weirder, as is a lot of science fiction(see, Asimov's Foundation series for a great example of something weirder that is huge and widely beloved).
Really it's just considered in poor taste to write something that echoes Storm of Steel rather than All's Quiet On The Western Front
It is fundamentally a book set in a libertarian militarized society where you have to serve in the military to participate in government and the story implies this is good and works
Well yeah. There are plenty of democracies today with mandatory military service; Starship Troopers is just a more libertarian version of that, where it's fine if you don't want to sign up, you just can't vote. The other thing that's different from the movie is that the military goes out of its way to discourage you from joining; the military recruiter plays up his injuries, there's a cooling off period after sign up, and there's basically no penalty for desertion during training.
The film was originally meant to be an entirely separate IP, called 'Bug Hunt' IIRC. The studio bought the rights to Heinlein's book because "famous book title make people buy more tickets!". Then thy got Verhoeven involved, because he was an up and coming satirical director (and "famous director make people buy more tickets!"). Verhoeven refused to even read the book, deciding that it must be some form of cryptofascist propaganda and decided to use the film to make fun of it - most likely because he grew up in Nazi occupied Netherlands during WW2, and kind of had a 'thing' about militaristic societies.
Bar the title, a few of the characters names, and the general idea of 'future space society, where Service Guarantees Citizenship, fighting space bugs' the film has nothing to do with the book.
It's a book about libertarian society requiring public service (but just military) to attention citizen, IE, the right to vote. All other rights were already given.
Vehoeven didn't even read the book. He was making his own slop and needed to pin it to a known IP in order to get his shit made.
The whole point of the bugs looking like bugs is that it’s really easy to be pro-oorah military when they’re fighting something that isn’t human and you don’t believe they deserve anything other than deaths. It’s just real dictatorships don’t have bugs, they have people they want you to see as bugs.
yeah but you see the problem is one is human beings and one is bugs. if they wanted to make that point the black mirror episode did a much better job of it. they’re not even humanoid they’re giant creatures that are only here to kill us and steal our land. ironically that reflects much more poorly on the people that the bugs are supposed to represent (like when people you’d demons or monsters as placeholders for black people in media)
The bugs are absolutely not here to 'kill us and steal our land.' In the movies, the asteroid is never actually confirmed to come from Klendathu, and it's Colonial settlers that expand onto the bug worlds rather than the other way around.
I mean there are some subtleties to the films militaristic culture that the sequels (not worth watching) missed the mark on horribly.
You had the news reporting live from the front line showing the horrors of the war. During the sign-up process, "the mobile infantry made me the man I am today". The dangers were clearly showcased to the main characters before they joined.
That’s because it was a bad satire. They pumped up the propaganda but made the enemy genuinely harrowing enough that it almost seemed justified. Probably didn’t help that said director admitted to never reading the book.
Typical intellectual redditor thinking that it takes a big brain (like theirs!) to understand subtle satire in films like Starship Troopers and American Psycho. Also thinking that the "groups which hate gays and woman", whoever they are, have to hate everything gays or women make.
Would you believe it if i told you that there's any number of skinheads out there who like American History X? And it's not because they can't figure out what the message of this movie is supposed to be.
American Psycho and Joker are both movies the average chud loves and its not because they want to be like the protagonist. It's because they feel about aspect of themselves is being represented by the character on screen. With American Psycho they might feel like Bateman they wear a mask to fit in with society, that they are putting on an act to be liked and respected, that they in some ways are hiding their true selves. Maybe its how Bateman is never really truely scene by anyone and only ever seen at a surface level, or how Bateman is just clawing desperately for status because he wants to be seen as better than others in someway(why he gets so hung up over those business cards, or hates Paul Allen).
There is also just the aspect the movie is really good.
Now its also possible that chuds may hate women or gays for ascribed patterns of behaviors. Things more based on action and less on identity. Kind of like how some women who have been raped may just hate men altogether after the experience because now in her head men do that, but she may still love things created by men because there is separation from creator and creation.
I don't think i ever heard anyone sincerely say that Patrick Bateman is an inspirational figure to them. Who are these people, and where can we look at them?
Maybe someone out there likes the suits he wears, or his hair style, maybe they repeat his morning routine or whatever, but no one thinks that he is a cool person, it's not a thing. The movie never presents him as possessing the kind of personal qualities that people respect and admire, regardless of whether they "get the sarcasm" or not.
Not sure why you're being downvoted - shallow reference pools, maybe? Someone might find a battering ram subtle if they had previously known only of trebuchets.
I can't tell whether or not you're trolling, but just in case this isn't a woosh: Subtleis not the same as complex. A knife is simple, a main battle tank is not. The determination of which of these two things is subtle shall be left as an exercise for the reader.
It's more likely than you think. I shit you not, half of the goddamn comments on this post have me feeling like I'm reading the rick and morty copypasta.
Wait a minute, isn't there a good chance that most of the plot is just a figment of Bateman's psychosis in both the book and the movie? And it was written by a gay man?
After careful analysis, I conclude this work is fake and gay.
I am in fact serious. One of the strongest forces in the universe is wishful thinking. The more someone wants something to be true, the easier it is to fall for obvious lies or completely miss subtext. Kinda how sex scams and "you won a million dollar, just give me your credit card details" scams work. Many such cases.
And American Psycho isn't even the worst film in the same decade for chuds to miss the obvious meaning and look only at the surface level.
Chuds love this delusion in particular. Being Patrick Bateman, getting away with murder, having nice things, having a niche obsession(Huey Lewis and the news).
I thought it would be obvious that chuds don't go "well, this guy is obviously phony and delusional" but instead the chuds go "this guy is just like me fr fr"
funnily enough it was also suppoused to be realistic and talk about the work he does but the author could not get a single answer on what people like him do when he asked them
The thing is… it can actually be a story about how latent gay tries to hide his sexuality. The film and book have many weird moments that can be interpreted differently
Like when his closed gay friend hits on him in the bathroom, he can't bring himself to kill such a blatant part of him, the women he can't relate to, and even despises on some level and as such he feels little for them, and choking out his friend would be like choking out the only genuine part of himself he's hiding from society
The movie was confusing until I reregistered it as a dark comedy. The shit with the ATM and exploding car all make perfect sense as literally happening in a comedy universe.
GF when she watch it with me think he is amazing, but I cant hold my laughter when I saw him getting shaken by the thought of his business card is lesser than paul.
Also the narration he love to sprout when he bang the 2 sex worker, GF love it too, while to me it seems like just yapping.
And I know my GF is a huge chud, in the women body. So the main character is weirdly popular with the chud. I could saw my GF become the Candace Owen or Lauren Southern of my country.
it’s pretty funny that they idolize patrick bateman but don’t understand he’s basically a total loser nobody likes to hang out with, and all he does is everything he can to try to fit in with the rest of them. the irony of course is that the guy that can fit in with the finance bros in the movie is a literal serial killer but asking them to pick up on the satire is asking a bit much considering their homework through college was coloring book pages and word searches.
If you think about it, Patrick Bateman represents exactly what incels would like to be: an extremely successful social outcast that takes revenge against those that wronged him (women, bullies, etc)
Because like all other ideologies built around a sense of victim mentality, incels have no sense of nuance or subtext and so they can’t recognise when the joke is about them.
I never knew that but for some reason it makes me like the movie even more. Why can't people just be kind to each other so we can all unite in our love for Patrick Bateman?
To be fair there is a real difference between "I love the nuance of this complicated character" and "hell yeah Patrick fuckin get that homeless guy" that shouldn't necessarily be ignored lol
"I have made a bestselling book and movie adaptation specifically to make fun of you and show how empty and meaningless your life is and why you ruin everything around you."
"Omg it's me for real I'm going to buy all the merch"
The movie says im bad but I still like it? Omg im sooooo stupid I forgot you can only like movies that suck you off and validate all your opinions. If someone made a movie about a misogynist massive dicked minority killing chud, I would still like it even if he was the antagonist because thats based as fuck. "Media literacy!!" Yeab we know we just dont need media to glaze our opinions like you do because you rely on your henpecking social groups and the MSM to feel safe in your thoughts.
Who knew the same group who routinely show that they're functionally illiterate, have trouble picking on up literary themes and devices like satire, and protagonist villains?.
i__dont___know@reddit
My genuine theory is that the first people started making memes out of it satirically and they happened to reach the crowd who hasn’t even seen the movie and thought the memes were genuine.
TheSunIsOurEnemy@reddit
It wouldn't matter even if they watched it. When you get past a certain degree of conservatism, you lose the ability to detect satire.
SikeSky@reddit
Take a pause and honestly ask yourself if the average American conservative would enjoy American psycho. How many conservatives do you think are kicking back with the kids and cheering on Patrick Bateman killing an unsuspecting woman? I can promise you that a sizable chunk wouldn’t even watch it based on the title alone.
American Psycho and The Boys are the worst examples of the phenomenon of predominantly leftist audiences talking to each other about how little conservatives understand some media. There are no conservatives in the conversation. Your mental model of conservatives is so divorced from reality that you think that the average Republican is cheering on Homelander as he fantasizes about mulching a crowd or throwing a guy in an oven.
The only people, left or right, that “idolize” these characters with any degree of sincerity are off their meds or 13 year old boys with unrestricted access to the internet. Hate conservatives all you want for policy or whatever, but pretending that they uniformly have the media literacy of a toddler is just pathetic.
bisky12@reddit
hey you can’t blame them. the average financial bros homework is word searches and coloring book pages (they usually can’t finish the word searches)
Southern_Source_2580@reddit
Its like starship troopers was directed by a european to mock american imperialism but americans ended up loving it and went, "lol cool just like me".
HippoRun23@reddit
Apparently the book starship troopers it’s based on is pure lunatic shit. Verhoven, director of the movie, thought the book was hilarious and ridiculous.
Love what we got. One of my favorite movies.
SikeSky@reddit
The book is great and Verhoven’s attempt to satirize it almost completely flops. The actual objectionable policies in the film are
Restrictions on who is allowed to have children
Questionable due process
Pro military propaganda for children
None of these elements are in the book.
Verhoven mistook militarism for fascism. The main character joins the military and thus the book is very focused on his coming of age within the Mobile Infantry, but the Federation has a volunteer-only military that is justified by the extremely aggressive and intelligent alien race attacking them.
Shockingly, multiple elements from the book that are cited as arguments that the Federation is not fascist actually made it into the film. There is a clear divide between private and public life, the military “recruiters” actually dissuade people from joining, and there is clear accountability for failures in leadership.
SufficientCalories@reddit
It's not really lunatic shit. It is fundamentally a book set in a libertarian militarized society where you have to serve in the military to participate in government and the story implies this is good and works, but that's not weird by any standard in science fiction. Nor is writing of war from the perspective of a soldier who grows as a person rather than simply being traumatized. It just pissed off people, almost none of whom have ever experienced combat. A lot of his other works are much weirder, as is a lot of science fiction(see, Asimov's Foundation series for a great example of something weirder that is huge and widely beloved).
Really it's just considered in poor taste to write something that echoes Storm of Steel rather than All's Quiet On The Western Front
FlashyChemical2231@reddit
Well yeah. There are plenty of democracies today with mandatory military service; Starship Troopers is just a more libertarian version of that, where it's fine if you don't want to sign up, you just can't vote. The other thing that's different from the movie is that the military goes out of its way to discourage you from joining; the military recruiter plays up his injuries, there's a cooling off period after sign up, and there's basically no penalty for desertion during training.
randomusername1934@reddit
The film was originally meant to be an entirely separate IP, called 'Bug Hunt' IIRC. The studio bought the rights to Heinlein's book because "famous book title make people buy more tickets!". Then thy got Verhoeven involved, because he was an up and coming satirical director (and "famous director make people buy more tickets!"). Verhoeven refused to even read the book, deciding that it must be some form of cryptofascist propaganda and decided to use the film to make fun of it - most likely because he grew up in Nazi occupied Netherlands during WW2, and kind of had a 'thing' about militaristic societies.
Bar the title, a few of the characters names, and the general idea of 'future space society, where Service Guarantees Citizenship, fighting space bugs' the film has nothing to do with the book.
Neomataza@reddit
Don't forget Verhoeven literally directed Robocop. I wouldn't call him a star, but he did have a pedigree.
Fern-ando@reddit
Is based of a book from the creator of sciencetology, of course it was going to be insane.
ZorbaTHut@reddit
wat
The_Meemeli@reddit
They maybe confused it with Battlefield Earth?
Pattern__Noticer@reddit
It's a book about libertarian society requiring public service (but just military) to attention citizen, IE, the right to vote. All other rights were already given.
Vehoeven didn't even read the book. He was making his own slop and needed to pin it to a known IP in order to get his shit made.
Did YOU even read the book?
226_Walker@reddit
Verhoven didn't even read the book.
bisky12@reddit
yeah maybe the guy shouldn’t have made the enemies giant people eating gross bug things and we wouldn’t have been like “fuck yea kill those fuckers”
TearOpenTheVault@reddit
Holy shit someone is literally doing the thing!
The whole point of the bugs looking like bugs is that it’s really easy to be pro-oorah military when they’re fighting something that isn’t human and you don’t believe they deserve anything other than deaths. It’s just real dictatorships don’t have bugs, they have people they want you to see as bugs.
bisky12@reddit
yeah but you see the problem is one is human beings and one is bugs. if they wanted to make that point the black mirror episode did a much better job of it. they’re not even humanoid they’re giant creatures that are only here to kill us and steal our land. ironically that reflects much more poorly on the people that the bugs are supposed to represent (like when people you’d demons or monsters as placeholders for black people in media)
TearOpenTheVault@reddit
The bugs are absolutely not here to 'kill us and steal our land.' In the movies, the asteroid is never actually confirmed to come from Klendathu, and it's Colonial settlers that expand onto the bug worlds rather than the other way around.
bisky12@reddit
i wouldn’t know i’ve never seen the movie
noveltymoocher@reddit
yeah but have you considered the ugly bugs kill people
The_Meemeli@reddit
In self defense when the humans invade their planet out of nowhere, yeah
HabitualGrassToucher@reddit
Buenos Aires was an inside job, the bugs only ever defended their own planets from invasion!
Desperate-Zebra-3855@reddit
I mean there are some subtleties to the films militaristic culture that the sequels (not worth watching) missed the mark on horribly.
You had the news reporting live from the front line showing the horrors of the war. During the sign-up process, "the mobile infantry made me the man I am today". The dangers were clearly showcased to the main characters before they joined.
von_Roland@reddit
That’s because it was a bad satire. They pumped up the propaganda but made the enemy genuinely harrowing enough that it almost seemed justified. Probably didn’t help that said director admitted to never reading the book.
BobSacamano47@reddit
It's bad satire!? It's like the best satire.
Munnin41@reddit
Also applies to fortunate son
WaffleBoi014@reddit
This is my favorite movie for the exact opposite reason that chuds love it lol
ChoiceFudge3662@reddit
Media literacy is dead.
yumstheman@reddit
Typical chuds not understanding satire.
iz-Moff@reddit
Typical intellectual redditor thinking that it takes a big brain (like theirs!) to understand subtle satire in films like Starship Troopers and American Psycho. Also thinking that the "groups which hate gays and woman", whoever they are, have to hate everything gays or women make.
Would you believe it if i told you that there's any number of skinheads out there who like American History X? And it's not because they can't figure out what the message of this movie is supposed to be.
tayzzerlordling@reddit
This doesn't make sense. if they understood american psycho it would be clear to them how bateman isnt aspirational
Frozen_Watch@reddit
American Psycho and Joker are both movies the average chud loves and its not because they want to be like the protagonist. It's because they feel about aspect of themselves is being represented by the character on screen. With American Psycho they might feel like Bateman they wear a mask to fit in with society, that they are putting on an act to be liked and respected, that they in some ways are hiding their true selves. Maybe its how Bateman is never really truely scene by anyone and only ever seen at a surface level, or how Bateman is just clawing desperately for status because he wants to be seen as better than others in someway(why he gets so hung up over those business cards, or hates Paul Allen).
There is also just the aspect the movie is really good.
Now its also possible that chuds may hate women or gays for ascribed patterns of behaviors. Things more based on action and less on identity. Kind of like how some women who have been raped may just hate men altogether after the experience because now in her head men do that, but she may still love things created by men because there is separation from creator and creation.
iz-Moff@reddit
I don't think i ever heard anyone sincerely say that Patrick Bateman is an inspirational figure to them. Who are these people, and where can we look at them?
Maybe someone out there likes the suits he wears, or his hair style, maybe they repeat his morning routine or whatever, but no one thinks that he is a cool person, it's not a thing. The movie never presents him as possessing the kind of personal qualities that people respect and admire, regardless of whether they "get the sarcasm" or not.
Ycr1998@reddit
Wtf
Curaced@reddit
Not sure why you're being downvoted - shallow reference pools, maybe? Someone might find a battering ram subtle if they had previously known only of trebuchets.
Top-Operation6869@reddit
Because while on the topic of satire going over audiences heads, you (and the commenter you're replying to) can't detect sarcasm in a comment. 🤦
spiritofporn@reddit
That makes no sense whatsoever. A trebuchet requires complex design and calculations, whereas a battering ram is, well, a battering ram.
Curaced@reddit
I can't tell whether or not you're trolling, but just in case this isn't a woosh: Subtleis not the same as complex. A knife is simple, a main battle tank is not. The determination of which of these two things is subtle shall be left as an exercise for the reader.
spiritofporn@reddit
Templarofsteel@reddit
Pretty sure they were being sarcastic
CaloricDumbellIntake@reddit
The irony of not being able to detect sarcasm in a comment while talking about how others fail to detect satire in movies …
Templarofsteel@reddit
Its like high school english all over again
Content_Averse@reddit
That's the joke dingus
rakfe@reddit
They are mocking, i guess they should have typed “subtle” to make it more obvious for people
ICantRemember33@reddit
pretty much it's irony
Ycr1998@reddit
Yeah but it's not subtle at all
TheNakedOracle@reddit
“Subtle” in that context was meant sarcastically
Curaced@reddit
Honestly truly feels like half of the comments section on this post reads like an unironic Rick and Morty copypasta.
Curaced@reddit
Pretty sure "subtle" is the point of contention there, not "satire".
MrWink@reddit
That shit straight up be like rain on your wedding day
MyBeansArentWorking@reddit
Let's be real, most Patrick Bateman fans know him from the memes not the movie. Sure as hell not the book cuz that motherfucker's a blubberer.
yumstheman@reddit
Based and chudpilled
Chewbakkaa@reddit
Mad
ProxyGeneral@reddit
Didn't the female screenwriter for the movie also personally ask to play the role of one of the women Bateman fucks and murders?
DumbNTough@reddit
SEE ABOVE
riverofchex@reddit
I love your username lol
badpunsinagoofyfont@reddit
Yes, she SATIRICALLY played the role of one of the women Bateman fucks and murders. As a JOKE.
Everyone knows that women aren't ACTUALLY attracted to serial killers.
Also, she's a LESBIAN. And as we all know, there's nothing lesbians love more than PRETENDING to have sex with men. As a JOKE.
You're not supposed to read into the creators. Just read into the audience.
tobacctracks@reddit
Yes, satirists should never participate in their own satires because that's... Anti-satire. For some reason.
Guglielmowhisper@reddit
At some point is it satire anymore or just an excuse for wish fulfillment
SilliusS0ddus@reddit
what I get from this is that American media people are very regarded
bateen618@reddit
This and people coming to Alan Moore (writer of Watchmen) saying "Rorschach is just like me!" and Moore being absolutely disgusted
DumbNTough@reddit
TOTAL CHUD VICTORY
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Curaced@reddit
It's more likely than you think. I shit you not, half of the goddamn comments on this post have me feeling like I'm reading the rick and morty copypasta.
Own_Initiative396@reddit
American psyop
Helgrind444@reddit
They just like memeing around but Redditors take it seriously
Poschansky@reddit
gay: writes how bad these kinda people is
these kinda people: thanks, that's accurate!
_KanjiKlub@reddit
midwit chads
bush_killed_epstein@reddit
Wait a minute, isn't there a good chance that most of the plot is just a figment of Bateman's psychosis in both the book and the movie? And it was written by a gay man?
After careful analysis, I conclude this work is fake and gay.
Atompunk78@reddit
That and the fact it’s making fun of him the whole time, calling him quite literally fake and ha
Neomataza@reddit
Chuds love the delusion.
Atompunk78@reddit
You’re probably joking, but seriously speaking, I think they just like to imagine being favourably portrayed on media - some serious irony
Neomataza@reddit
I am in fact serious. One of the strongest forces in the universe is wishful thinking. The more someone wants something to be true, the easier it is to fall for obvious lies or completely miss subtext. Kinda how sex scams and "you won a million dollar, just give me your credit card details" scams work. Many such cases.
And American Psycho isn't even the worst film in the same decade for chuds to miss the obvious meaning and look only at the surface level.
Atompunk78@reddit
I agree with this, but I disagree this means ‘chuds love the delusion’, at least, any more than any other group
Neomataza@reddit
Chuds love this delusion in particular. Being Patrick Bateman, getting away with murder, having nice things, having a niche obsession(Huey Lewis and the news).
I thought it would be obvious that chuds don't go "well, this guy is obviously phony and delusional" but instead the chuds go "this guy is just like me fr fr"
123ludwig@reddit
funnily enough it was also suppoused to be realistic and talk about the work he does but the author could not get a single answer on what people like him do when he asked them
TBARb_D_D@reddit
The thing is… it can actually be a story about how latent gay tries to hide his sexuality. The film and book have many weird moments that can be interpreted differently
Carbon_robin@reddit
That’s the fun of American psycho you can go full throttle and believe everything or don’t. It all depends on what you believe
dajoos4kin@reddit
Like when his closed gay friend hits on him in the bathroom, he can't bring himself to kill such a blatant part of him, the women he can't relate to, and even despises on some level and as such he feels little for them, and choking out his friend would be like choking out the only genuine part of himself he's hiding from society
Res_Novae17@reddit
The movie was confusing until I reregistered it as a dark comedy. The shit with the ATM and exploding car all make perfect sense as literally happening in a comedy universe.
Big_G_Dog@reddit
Jesus Christ, stfu
sn4xchan@reddit
Wah wah wah wah wah?
AlternatusAccount@reddit
Why is bro pressed
justsomewhitedude@reddit
He’s an outsider. Shun him
champdude17@reddit
Cause the humour is subtle enough that people who think he's cool can enjoy it as a self insert without realizing it's making fun of them.
karateema@reddit
The calling cards scene is peak because they're all circlejerking and they all look the same just like their owners
6gpdgeu58@reddit
GF when she watch it with me think he is amazing, but I cant hold my laughter when I saw him getting shaken by the thought of his business card is lesser than paul.
Also the narration he love to sprout when he bang the 2 sex worker, GF love it too, while to me it seems like just yapping.
And I know my GF is a huge chud, in the women body. So the main character is weirdly popular with the chud. I could saw my GF become the Candace Owen or Lauren Southern of my country.
SteveMemeChamp@reddit
Thanks for this
Anguscablejnr@reddit
Many such cases.
HippoRun23@reddit
Vaxed?
bisky12@reddit
this is the funnies response you could have possibly replied. thank you genuinely.
Marble05@reddit
Ladies and gentlemen, we got him
ICantRemember33@reddit
or don't at all about the author intent, death of author is a thing
driku12@reddit
When your writing is so good that idiots can't even understand it so they just replace it with the story that was already in their head
loscapos5@reddit
I blame /b/
The whole reason I wanted to watch it was because of the dubs meme
bisky12@reddit
it’s pretty funny that they idolize patrick bateman but don’t understand he’s basically a total loser nobody likes to hang out with, and all he does is everything he can to try to fit in with the rest of them. the irony of course is that the guy that can fit in with the finance bros in the movie is a literal serial killer but asking them to pick up on the satire is asking a bit much considering their homework through college was coloring book pages and word searches.
Stratocaster5000@reddit
Doesn't matter. Is rich, buff, and dates hotties
bisky12@reddit
unfortunately most dudes who idolize him aren’t anyone of those things
JerryUitDeBuurt@reddit
Because chronically online idiots who watch the movie only in fragments on TikTok/reels have zero (0) media literacy
Limp-Temperature1783@reddit
Being media illiterate.
Phuffu@reddit
The entire book makes fun of Wall Street losers I thought it was kinda obvious. Probably my favorite book it’s so fucking funny.
Fernando_III@reddit
If you think about it, Patrick Bateman represents exactly what incels would like to be: an extremely successful social outcast that takes revenge against those that wronged him (women, bullies, etc)
MrAragorn@reddit
They understood their demographic
theceure@reddit
John Travolta meme is looking around for all these people that hate gay people and women.
EquivalentSnap@reddit
Missed the entire point of the movie. The other characters even call Patrick Bateman a loser and a dork
Diantr3@reddit
People who hate women and gay people are fucking idiots. That's all.
BlackbirdRedwing@reddit
Chuds are suckers
kardfogK@reddit
They dont get that its making fun of them (they didnt watch it just used if for edits)
Wankainu@reddit
Art is subjective
BilltheThreat_@reddit
"m-muh media literacy"...
Mishi_Mujago@reddit
Because like all other ideologies built around a sense of victim mentality, incels have no sense of nuance or subtext and so they can’t recognise when the joke is about them.
Desert_Aficionado@reddit
But Bateman is not an incel?
Mishi_Mujago@reddit
He’s not a metaphor for being an incel, he’s a metaphor for being a cunt. If you identify with that then…
MetzgerBoys@reddit
It’s what zero media literacy does
Holyepicafail@reddit
I never knew that but for some reason it makes me like the movie even more. Why can't people just be kind to each other so we can all unite in our love for Patrick Bateman?
driku12@reddit
To be fair there is a real difference between "I love the nuance of this complicated character" and "hell yeah Patrick fuckin get that homeless guy" that shouldn't necessarily be ignored lol
bisky12@reddit
bc most of these guys m.o. is being mean to marginalized communities. that’s like the whole thing.
driku12@reddit
"I have made a bestselling book and movie adaptation specifically to make fun of you and show how empty and meaningless your life is and why you ruin everything around you."
"Omg it's me for real I'm going to buy all the merch"
The_Shittiest_Meme@reddit
Chuds and fascists cannot meaningfully understand with or engage with art.
Few-Requirement-3544@reddit
Allergic to bee stings does not mean allergic to honey.
CarlosimoDangerosimo@reddit
It's you anon, you're the American Psycho (2000)!!!
gregorychaos@reddit
Feed me a gay cat
HippoRun23@reddit
Good story telling.
comasxx@reddit
Bc main character is psychopath batman
Rejukem@reddit
I need to return some videotapes at Arkham Asylum
pacard@reddit
I can't possibly be Batman, I was on a date with a girl named Veronica.
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
The movie says im bad but I still like it? Omg im sooooo stupid I forgot you can only like movies that suck you off and validate all your opinions. If someone made a movie about a misogynist massive dicked minority killing chud, I would still like it even if he was the antagonist because thats based as fuck. "Media literacy!!" Yeab we know we just dont need media to glaze our opinions like you do because you rely on your henpecking social groups and the MSM to feel safe in your thoughts.
white_equatorial@reddit
They did it with the hanging dong of Demetrius
Minute-Weekend5234@reddit
Bigots tend to not understand the media directly criticizing them to their faces. I.e. The Boys
lewd-boy-o@reddit
Because only a woman and a bung sniffer can realistically portray Patrick Bateman
Coakis@reddit
Who knew the same group who routinely show that they're functionally illiterate, have trouble picking on up literary themes and devices like satire, and protagonist villains?.