Authentic Human Coordination Around a Shared Idea has Economic Value Precisely Because Machines Can't Fake It
Posted by BaseRick137@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 47 comments
I’ve been monitoring the chaos of the current Zeitgeist… and these thoughts keep rattling around in my head.
We’re living through the downstream effects of microprocessors spawning into our world.
AI isn’t just a tool. It’s a completely new organism, and the microprocessor might be its RNA.
We have deep problems stemming from the pain of coping with the finiteness of life. We struggle with patience. We worry. We fear. We strive. We love. We hate.
We are all deeply flawed.
Yet, we are human.
AI is not. But it still exists. There’s a ‘thingness’ to it.
AI forces a total restructuring of society. There’s no escaping it. We can’t put the genie back in the bottle. We haven’t invented a calculator; we’ve discovered electricity. The train has left the station, and it's accelerating.
If you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back. But you only need to stare once. Even if you turn around, the abyss doesn’t stop staring.
As a result, society’s next chapter will be built around the network. This is the level of analysis at which history begins to make sense. Humans don’t exist in a vacuum. We are locked in a Hegelian dialectic. Hurtling through space, trapped in a dance, like a binary pulsar.
The first hive minds emerging from the chaos are already among us. Many used to be secret. Prophets who pointed them out were called conspiracy theorists. A term crafted in the bowels of the beast... Yet, these organisms are irrefutably connected by one scarce resource: focused human attention.
Human attention has evolved. On first approximation, it seems as though our attention spans are shrinking. However, that’s not quite right. We simply have infinitely more stimuli vying for our attention. The initial survival mechanism was to create a nanometer-thick sheet of attention. But spreading attention thin doesn’t win where we’re going. The evolution has at least one more phase shift.
Winners create gravitational pull within attention space-time.
Some have figured this out already. They purposefully congregate around specific ways of being in the world. Around ‘memes’. Their congregating energies create a gravitational pull that sinks into a black hole. One that blooms into real-world communities with real-life consequences. The full extent of which likely will remain redacted.
AI also affects attentional space-time. It too creates a gravitational pull. We are grappling with what this means.
Ultimately, it is from this dimension that reality emerges. And capital and power are tethered to attentional black holes capable of persisting forever.
He who has ears, let him hear.
This timeline is SPX6900-coded.
Consistent-Fill1327@reddit
"Capable of persisting forever " makes no sense to me. It takes a lot of resources just to power and maintain the LLMs. AI is just a buzzword, its just predictive text with much more power. Yes, it can be used in powerful ways if you have access to plentiful energy and global supply chains. It is a system far more fragile than humans even. You can't manufacture the chips without helium for example. There is one major known source in the world for pure quartz. It will all be expensive toxic garbage when the global supply chains collapse. Its not uncommon for the new human technology to be thought to be messianic by some.
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
To your first point, I think the corporations will power and maintain the LLMs with assistance from their public partners. The phrases “private-public partnerships”, “national champions”, “whole of society approach” will become more prominent in the discourse. All these phrases point to the same solution to this problem. It’s primarily viewed as a national security issue. Much like how nuclear weapons were.
Additionally, the brain is a prediction machine. Humans are deep and super complex. However, homo economics (I.e. the human as an agent within the economy) is not. The prediction machine of the LLM and subsequent iterations can be effective in the world if bits. As robotics goes mainstream, I argue that this effectiveness will play out in the world of atoms.
This will be expensive. But resource allocation isn’t democratic. Neither is it meritocratic in the purist sense. Rather, who you know is more vital than what you know.
The 1% live by that belief system and have social networks that are viable, resilient, and have staying power. The 99% don’t do that yet. But I think they’ll 99% will due to the external pressures that we’re facing. That’s what I mean by “persisting forever”. It’s a level of tenacity that forces acknowledgement. Short term boycotting or movements don’t do that.
Consistent-Fill1327@reddit
The 1% are the opposite of resilient so i have no idea what kind of glue you been huffing but I want some.
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
What evidence do you have that the 1% are fragile?
systematk@reddit
I think you're intelligent and probably use AI too much, but at the same time you're an idiot. The reason I can infer that is because A). You dismiss anyone that disagrees. one true sign of an idiot is that they cannot hold anyone else's thoughts or ideas as reasonable beyond their own, you can only be correct, and that arrogance is weakness. B). You are referring to manmade objects as if they MUST exist, and at the scale they are today or greater. I have a climate crisis that says otherwise. Whatever is man made can and will eventually fail, including AI.
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Free_Broccoli_1174@reddit
That's great and all but perhaps the single saving grace of collapse is the fact that AI, as we are coming to know it will not, can not survive through it. For the most part, neither will we. I'm betting AI is not something those who do survive will have to worry about when that time comes. AI is built on massive overproduction and requires massive amounts of data and energy to survive. It will perish with the rest of the system.
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
I disagree because I see the manufacturing capacity of China being able to produce enough energy and storage for AI. Thus forcing an arms race in all thing energy production, storage, and distribution.
Airilsai@reddit
Industrial supply chains are not going to survive the collapse of the global system, dude. What are you smoking?
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
The world order is changing dude. There are ascending and descending countries. You think empire is just going to disappear overnight? Bro stop ✋
Airilsai@reddit
You seem to be unaware of the potential rapidity of collapse and the incredible complexity required to maintain AI systems, and the fragility of that syste.. I will not try to change your mind.
Airilsai@reddit
Shut the fuck up with this AI slop. I'm going to be growing food in my community and anyone who wants to contribute with AI memes can fucking starve.
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
High brow response. Real classy. You sound like someone who knows how to express themselves thoughtfully.
RoyalZeal@reddit
More AI slop, cool.
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
This isn’t AI slop.
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
The ideas that inspired this article come from a variety of authors and thinkers including but not limited to:
tehfrod@reddit
And it ends with your meme coin?
Go away, grifter.
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
Feel free to build your own trust machine. Or hold fiat. Lol
CloudTransit@reddit
What is this?
“The full extent of which likely will remain redacted. “
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
It alludes to the Epstein Class.
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aeon2567@reddit
creative ideas, are there any philosophers/thinkers that inspired this kind of thinking?
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
Hmmm
Amongst others.
Amongst others.
tehfrod@reddit
Go shill your cryptocurrency somewhere else.
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
Read the book, the sovereign individual
genomixx-redux@reddit
One of Peter Thiel's favorite books?
Western individualism won't save your life.
There is another way forward but you won't find it in the hunger for more money, money, money while the world burns, burns, burns.
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
I think it’s naive to assume your adversaries have no wisdom. Western individualism will evolve to add collectivist elements, just like eastern collectivism evolved to add individualist elements.
Actions are downstream of beliefs. High agency people understand this and operate from the belief layer.
I refuse to accept the idea that humanity has forgotten how to creatively solve problems.
ElonsBotchedPenis@reddit
it’s naive to assume your adversaries have no wisdom.
but Peter Thiel is literally just a nazi with no wisdom.
can you maybe point me towards a different adversary?
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
Yet, somehow that Nazi with no wisdom has maneuvered in such a way to hold significant sway in critical elements public life. And members of his ilk have impacted you so much that you named your account after their genitals.. But yea, let ME point YOU to a more worthy adversary..
mem2100@reddit
We're in a race. The would be God Fathers are sprinting up Mount Olympus, a mad dash to be first to create Deus Ex Machina. They have just reached the inflection point, that place where their Near Gods are far enough along, to recursively complete themselves. Perhaps this will be the moment our descendants describe as the beginning of the Singularity.
On the far side of the mountain, the armies of Big Carbon are racing to monetize their coal, oil and gas, before it gets replaced by newer, cleaner tech. The negative externalities of this race have already begun to destabilize the world.
No idea how it will play out. But it's sure to be exciting....
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
You get it. We are witnessing a rapidly reorganization and attempted defense of moats by entrenched interests.
Severe_Eggplant_7747@reddit
What solutions have humans ever created that didn’t turn out to be twice as bad as the original problem?
realthigh@reddit
Precisely why the solution is probably anarchy while maintaining social pressure and collectivism to guide the way.
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
What do you think the problem is?
genomixx-redux@reddit
AI slop doesn't grab my attention, no.
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
This ain’t AI slop
Jester-of-Crypto@reddit
So much hate for an original opinion lol
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
And no engagement with the ideas. Just apathy and nihilism. Disbelief that someone would contemplate such a thesis.
Celestial_Mechanica@reddit
It's AI slop, made by someone who seemingly hasn't read a decent academic book in their life. Using youtube channels, propaganda speeches and pop-sci bestsellers to form your "ideas" = garbage in, garbage out.
ElonsBotchedPenis@reddit
“AI isn’t just a tool. It’s a completely new organism” - AI
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
Your comment reveals that you have no deep thoughts about this topic.
The relationship between human individuals and corporations is changing as a result of the organism that is AI. You think the only level of analysis is at the biological and apply the term organism to that pattern. Yet, the individual’s desires in the political realm is superseded by those of corporate entities all the time. Still, due to hubris, you stubbornly cling to a word view that narrows the scope and definitions of complex systems.
Awkward_Mastodon4332@reddit
Crypto and LLM's - two great flavours that go great together! Casual friday often brightens my week! Thanks!
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
I guess you don’t do much writing.
systematk@reddit
Hey, I realize it's hard to see things clearly at times, especially they way things are playing out, but you are absolutely losing reality in this and you may need external help to get back on your feet.
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
What part of my article do you disagree with and why?
TheIrishWanderer@reddit
Thanks, ChatGPT.
BaseRick137@reddit (OP)
Your comment is further evidence that we live in a trust-less society. Ironically, that too is SPX6900-coded.
You should read the Sovereign Individual.